No surprise here. The Qur’an teaches that men are superior to women and should beat those from whom they “fear disobedience”: “Men have authority over women because Allah has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because Allah has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them.” — Qur’an 4:34
Muhammad’s child bride, Aisha, says in a hadith that Muhammad “struck me on the chest which caused me pain, and then said: ‘Did you think that Allah and His Apostle would deal unjustly with you?’” — Sahih Muslim 2127
“Turkish Islamists say laws protecting women threaten the family,” by Dicle Eşiyok, Ahval News, July 15, 2019 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
Turkish Islamists have launched a campaign against a European convention and a domestic law combating violence against women, saying they empower LGBTI groups and aim to destroy the institution of the family.
The heated debate is one a several areas where splits have begun to emerge within the Islamist movement led by President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, with criticism even reaching a conservative women’s organisation founded by his daughter.
The story begins with the years of abuse suffered by Nahide Opuz after she married in 1995. Her husband battered her, attempted to run her over with his car and stabbed her. The police repeatedly ignored her pleas and allowed her husband to remain at large, until in 2002 he shot her mother dead.
Opuz took Turkey to the European Court of Human Rights, and in 2009 Turkey was convicted for failing to protect her despite her attempts to exercise her legal rights.
The Opuz verdict set a precedent and served as the basis of the Council of Europe Convention on Preventing and Combating Violence Against Women and Domestic Violence.
Dubbed the Istanbul Convention after the city where it was signed in 2011, the regulation obligates signatories to combat discrimination on the basis of sex, sexual orientation and gender identity, as well as to take precautions against domestic violence, compensate its victims and sentence perpetrators proportionally.
Turkey was the first to ratify the convention, in 2012, and it was soon promoted by the ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) and its women’s groups.
The Opuz verdict also led to the 2011 founding of Turkey’s Ministry of Family and Social Policy, which worked with women’s organisations to devise a 2012 law (Law 6284) that aims to protect women and children subject to or threatened with violence.
But in recent weeks, as mainstream Turkish discourse has been gripped by anti-Westernism, many Islamist analysts and politicians have come to see the convention and the law as part of a European conspiracy to erode the integrity of the Turkish family, which has in turn put pressure on Turkey’s LGBTI+ community and those working to curb domestic violence.
Sema Maraşlı, a conservative writer known as a strident opponent of feminism, went so far as to suggest the ratification of the Istanbul Convention had brought forth a “punishment from God” on the AKP after it lost the June 23 Istanbul mayoral election.
Maraşlı’s views are far from unique. Şakir Tarım, a columnist for the Islamist daily Milli Gazete, said the convention was a plot by Europe to “subvert society through women”. Another Islamist columnist, Tayyar Tercan, warned that it would one day lead to the legalisation of gay marriage. Some Islamist columnists went so far to call the convention “women’s terrorism”…
James says
It seems strange for Muslims to say that stopping domestic violence against women and girls would destroy the family. What sort of family are they trying to protect? Patriarchical with cousin marriages, child marriage, polygamy, FGM, unequal legal and inheritance rights. Yet the apologists say that women had the first rights in the world, as written in the Koran. First unequal rights that have not been revised for 1400 years, I guess. But it is odd to see how feminists want women to be free from domestic violence in the West, but say nothing about domestic violence in Islam. That is because feminism is a branch of Marxism and is aimed at power, not women’s rights. But the feminists here are breaking down the family in the West, with the aid of the leftists and their laws.
Glen says
According to the Mahound, men honor their women by beating them. Yes, Really.
Feminists and Homosexuals have made common cause with Islam, so great is their hate for Western Civilization. These 3 groups share the same goal, that of the destruction of Western Civilization, Read: White Males, that they will over look their inherent and conflicting differences.
I am a homophobe because I oppose same sex marriage, but not a word is said about gays being hung, tossed off buildings
CRUSADER says
Remember “Hart to Hart”?
An intelligent, forward, strong, yet loving and romantic wife combined with
her jocular, tactful, diplomatic, chivalric, debonair, yet clever husband
into a power couple as detectives from the 1980s?
Glen, you’d just LOVE to know what Hollyweird has put forth as an “update”:
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A new series is described as “a modern and sexy retelling of the classic series
that focuses on by-the-book attorney Jonathan Hart and free-spirited investigator
Dan Hartman, who must balance the two sides of their life: action-packed
crime-solving in the midst of newly found domesticity.”
A similar project had been announced more than a decade earlier in 2002,
with Alan Cumming attached to star in a series being developed for ABC
that was being touted as a “gay Hart to Hart”. Titled ‘Mr and Mr Nash’,
the planned series featured a gay couple, both interior designers, who
“stumble upon a murder each week”, but it never went into production.
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HA !!!
Maybe, sometimes, there is a kernel of truth-telling from the perspective
that “christianblood” offers now and then. Not to summon up a demon…
CRUSADER says
Titles of some of the informative pamphlets at Freedom Center:
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Teresa Heinz Kerry’s Radical Gifts
The Violent Oppression of Women in Islam
Fight Fire With Fire
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gravenimage says
I believe in equal rights and I oppose Muslim wife beating.
Goofy says
This Turkish debate is good news because it may be widely commented on outside Turkey enabling the Kafir to get some insight in the “value system” of devout Muslims. The conventional wisdom is that Muslim crime and social exclusion in the EU has something to do with unsuccessful attempts at integration. Few are prepared to accept that we are talking about two ways of thinking which cannot be reconciled. I marvel at the situation in Sweden which has a strong history of equal treatment of women, but which appears prepared to accept that Muslim men have the right to mistreat women of their own as well as Swedish women. We all need to understand Islam and the nature and history of the Koran better. Try to watch some lectures given by Jay Smith.
CRUSADER says
Islam and Slavery
– Jay Smith
Apologists for the religion of Islam often play the slave card in an attempt to draw black Afro-Caribbeans away from Christianity to the religion of Islam. Up until now, the wind has only been blowing in one direction in exposing the regrettable tie between those professing to be Christian and their involvement in the transatlantic slave trade. That is until now…
Jay Smith brings devastating evidence that exposes the historic link between Islam and Black Slavery and demands an answer! Please listen carefully to what he shares and consider the evidence he shares.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yleHVnkvi1E
Carol the 1st says
Without income/job independence women become vulnerable to being emotionally treated as part of the livestock. it shows in many, many statements. A healthy culture enables and makes good use of independent females. Many women suffered silently when the West had fewer choices for them.
Wellington says
The erosion of the traditional family unit has been a disaster for sundry reasons (e.g., the stupidity and selfishness of having children out of wedlock), but not being able to beat up on women, per Islamthink, is most certainly not one of these reasons.
Again, an in tact society is faced with idiocy from the Left (which is OK with children being born out of wedlock) and barbarity from Islam (smacking wives around is something Allah is OK with).
The two greatest menaces to the family unit that has its act together continue to this day—1) Western Leftism; and 2) Islam. And again we can see why these two decrepit belief systems, one some 1400 years old and the other only about a half century old, are temporary allies, the reason being that both destroy what is best about mankind functioning optimally, though for very different reasons of course.
mortimer says
We have seen this before.
The evil axis of opposites (godless communism and Sharia supremacism) are united so as to destroy Western civilization. Thereafter, they will turn upon their ally and destroy each other. Lenin first destroyed the churches of Russia while simultaneously promoting Islam. Then Stalin turned on them and destroyed the Muslims and virtually all their mosques and all of their madrassahs and deported millions of Muslims to ‘internal exile’ in Siberia.
There are already early signs that the axis of evil is disintegrating. Many notable fashionable Leftists have denounced Sharia punishments. They are waking up.
mortimer says
Stalin led the charge against Islam in the name of equality for women in the Soviet Union.
Carol the 1st says
That’s very interesting Mortimer. About the only thing I’d heard along those lines is how the Ayatollah’s crowd turned on Iran’s lefties. Maybe Lenin and Stalin were inspired by the “no honor among thieves” sentiment. Do any of Robert Spencer’s books cover this?
CRUSADER says
Aisha was an upstart banshee of a feminazi for that era.
Obviously, Mo had to rebuke her with some honesty:
So, telling her that “Allah and His Apostle are just” — and merciful !
Carol the 1st says
She seemed to often “have his number” and know when to let the goats do their cleanups. It’s probably why Moe liked her best despite himself.
Angemon says
Isn’t that the overall story of Turkey?
jewdog says
It’s family values, Islamic rib-rock style. It’s a little different than the Western ones; for example, Parents can kill their children with impunity on questions of “honor”, and a woman needs four male witnesses to prove rape – if she can’t she can be punished (hard) for adultery. Have you seen the videos of gays being pushed off roofs and then beaten to death by the crowd if they didn’t die from the fall? It’s family values alright, like the ones in the “Texas Chainsaw Massacre”.
Westman says
How does Islam speak about “destroying the family” when there is no love in Islam? All love is directed to the sadist who threatens them with eternal violence and turns them into spies upon each other.
How many celebrities have we seen who, unloved by parents, spent their energy to be noticed, hoping for love? Then, when becoming famous, they discover that crowd worship does not bring personal love and stability and try to find it in drugs. Like the song, Nobody Knows You When You’re Down and Out, the good weather friends won’t be there when there is nothing to get.
Perhaps that is why so many celebrities hate POTUS and want immigration: They are miserable misfits who have never arrived at feeling genuinely loved and cling to the idea that if all standards and taboos are removed, finally, they will be loved. They are in their own closed society and actually believe they carry the banner.
The recent offering, “Earthrise”, on PBS tried to sell the idea that since, looking back from space, there are no borders, then we can just forget them and understanding will prevail. There are two beheaded and murdered European girls, dead, because such ideas were believed. The truth is that, in standing back too far, one gets the fuzzy incomplete picture, without the real details. And this is what is leading Europe – guides blind to reality and/or manipulators whose monumental mistake is believing they will be loved for doing it. Islam will not love them and the replaced will rightfully hate the mention of their names.
CRUSADER says
RAISING “CAIN” ?
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Catholic Gov. Kaine Officiates Wedding for Muslim and Jew …
During his successful run for the Executive Mansion, Gov. Tim Kaine effectively touted his religious faith — traditionally viewed as Republican territory — to explain his opposition to the death penalty.
At a wedding at which he officiated for one of his campaign staffers last month, Kaine, who is Catholic, also displayed his knack for religious tolerance.
Mo Elleithee was Kaine’s communications director in the 2005 race against former Attorney General Jerry Kilgore. Mo is short for Mohamad. He was raised Muslim, a fact which presented some challenges when he and his future bride, Talya Stein, who is Jewish, began planning their wedding.
“It was a little bit about the Camp David accords,”
quips Kaine’s current communication director, Kevin Hall.
(Kaine could’ve been USA Vice Prez, if not for key voters from
Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin…or instance!)
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What this point misses is :
A Jewess can marry a Muslim male and still be contracted under Islam.
Meanwhile, TODAY — 7 years ago, Senator McCain defended Huma Abedin,
a top aide to Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, against accusations
she’s part of conspiracy by the Muslim Brotherhood to infiltrate the top reaches
of the U.S. government.
Jul 18, 2012:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xASbyLHDd4
CRUSADER says
Who is Huma Abedin?
(Well, she — connected to the Muslim Brotherhood — :
resembles A.O.C. but is smarter and harder working supporting Leftism;
covertly addresses the same Islamic agenda as Muslimas Omar and Tlaib)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ1PapebaQc
CRUSADER says
More faking by the Abedin family — Huma’s cousin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJOF5Ey0Wow
CRUSADER says
It’s a good thing McCain has departed.
He rarely defended anyone in this way on Congress floor before!
He called the suspicion of Huma Abedin’s as “sinister”!!!
Even though any connections she had with Muslim Brotherhood
was questioned, and deserved more investigation, rather than dismissal
of any scrutiny.
This is how a nation falters.
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Meanwhile, years later, Mr Trump courageously said this of Huma:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25t1A6GBoHw
CRUSADER says
Trump needs to follow on the trail of Killery, and lock her up !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J3WLRibAuk
E T says
When the damn females start grating on the poor man’s nerves he should sit awhile, relax, have a hemlock tea, and the situation will be over momentarily.
Marigold says
I never agreed with the Marxist inspired radical tradition of feminist thought which emerged in the 1960’s because it was too selfish, man hating and militant with it push for abortion rights in particular. It also had the
most raucous voice and I blame it for the confusion in so many young males of today who don’t know whether they are supposed to be Arthur or Martha. I wouldn’t wish THAT brand of feminism to liberate the women in Turkey.
However,I have to agree that patriarchy in the societies of the so called Christian West so enraged women with their male chauvinism that it was inevitable that feminist politics with its three strands would arise and be supported in the so called Christian West with its emphasis on freedom of thought.
Islamic societies would be even worse in regard to patriarchy the more fundamentalist they are with their hijabs, burkhas, easy divorce and Quoran verses categorically asserting the inferiority of women and how their husbands are allowed to beat them for disobedience.
There is no way women are inferior to men in any way whatsoever. They are equal but different and the Father Creator meant the sexes to complement each other.
I hasten to add that even the obvious biological differences between men and women have never stopped women from doing men’s jobs. You only have to look at women’s roles in WW2 which helped to win the war. One example is the women who worked on the canals in England which was a particularly heavy,filthy and difficult job which required brains, physical strength and stamina in abundance. I have nothing but admiration for these women and sympathy for the women in Islamic societies.
Finally it doesn’t surprise me that these radical feminists will rabbit on endlessly about domestic violence in their own countries but ignore the plight of women in Islamic societies because they are hypocrites and believe in an ideaology as false as Islam.
Jayell says
“These radical feminists will rabbit on endlessly about domestic violence in their own countries but ignore the plight of women in Islamic societies because they are hypocrites and believe in an ideology as false as Islam….”
Seems like these radical feminists have a lot in common with islam since they constantly use the same ‘victim status’ strategy in their quest for gender supremacy. They’ve teamed up with islam because they’re playing the same scurrilous game. You have to be pretty ignorant, blinkered, bigoted or hypocritical not to notice the way Western society and the MSM misappropriate the ancient values of ‘chivalry’ to censor or excuse the multitude of sins regularly committed by females in modern ‘enlightened’ Western society – it stares you in the face here in the UK if not in the USA. So here we really have the classic clash of civilisations – the toxic male gender-supremacy of islam versus the equally toxic female gender-supremacy of the so-called ‘progressive’ West. And both of them perversions of the primeval ‘biological imperative’ which is utterly irrelevant in a highly-organised, relatively safe and successful social situation where total extinction of the species is hardly imminent.
Anton Savarese says
And, Ilhan Omar supports the dictator, and her pal, Turkey’s Erdogan, and this practice, and WILL NOT CONDEMN IT..
Carol the 1st says
Kindred spirits. It’s a shame to keep them apart!
gravenimage says
Turkey: Muslim leaders complain that law combating violence against women aims to destroy the family
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These are “family values” in Islam–wife beating, polygamy, child rape, forced marriage, and “Honor Killing”.
God, i hate Islam.