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UK based Muslim scholars: “demand fascist Israel be returned to Arabs”

Jul 1, 2019 3:00 pm By Christine Douglass-Williams

Increasingly, Islamic jihad conquest wars of the Middle East are being called for in Western nations. They are well manifested in Al Quds hate rallies everywhere;  and the surge in Islamic antisemitism has been alarming since the influx of Muslim migrants into Europe, particularly in Germany and France. Islamization is expansionary and it is no surprise that given its incursions into the UK that now, mainstream Islamic supremacists are becoming more emboldened.

Twenty-six “Muslim scholars” based in Britain have called for “fascist” Israel to be returned to the Arabs, and expressed their hope that “Jerusalem will be the capital of the Islamic Caliphate when it returns, Allah willing.”

This open call for Israel’s obliteration and an Islamic caliphate in its place with Jerusalem as its capital has been a long term goal. But it is highly alarming that mainstream “Muslim scholars” based in Britain are calling for it. Even in Congress, the obliteration of Israel is “tolerated”. Palestinian Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib believes in a one-state solution; and primarily sees herself as a Palestinian. She tweeted out in May…

The jihad wars of the Middle East and elsewhere are invading Western civilization with little public resistance considering its magnitude. No Western leader that is supporting and appeasing the jihad should be in power. It is treasonous.

“UK-based ‘Muslim Scholars’ Demand ‘Fascist’ Israel Returned to Arab”, by Jack Montgomery, Breitbart, July 1, 2019:

Twenty-six “Muslim scholars” based in Britain have called for “fascist” Israel to be returned to the Arabs, and expressed their hope that “Jerusalem will be the capital of the Islamic Caliphate when it returns, Allah willing.”

5Pillars, which describes itself as “The largest *regulated* Muslim news site in Europe & the Americas” — but has been described by Lead Commissioner for the Commission for Countering Extremism Sara Khan as “Islamist” — published the open letter on its website, and invited “Any Muslim scholar who would like to sign this open statement” to get in touch.

The statement, which 5Pillars say was “spearheaded by Shaykh Asrar Rashid from Birmingham”, asserts that the signatories “do not recognise ‘Israel’ as a legitimate state.”

“‘Israel’ must return the entirety of Palestinian land,” they demand.

“Palestinians have no link to the holocaust and the crimes of the Second World War against the Jewish people.

“We condemn the continued fascist Zionist oppression which has cost the Palestinian people their freedom, homeland and lives for over seventy years.”

The signatories insist that Islam “does not promote anti-Semitism and Arabs are also a Semitic people”, and claim that Islamic rulers treated Christians in the region with benevolence “until the Zionist occupation ended the mutual tolerance that had existed for over a millennium.”

“Jerusalem will be the capital of the Islamic Caliphate when it returns, Allah willing,” they conclude.

Some of Judaism’s holiest sites are located in the West Bank and eastern Jerusalem, including the Temple Mount and Western Wall in Jerusalem; the Tomb of the Patriarchs and Matriarchs in Hebron; and Joseph’s Tomb in Nablus.

Sara Khan, who was appointed to her role at the Commission for Countering Extremism by former home secretary Amber Rudd in 2018, previously described 5Pillars as a “British based Islamist” organisation with an “anti-Western agenda… which include[s] support for a caliphate, Islamic penal codes and physical jihad.”

5Pillars, for its part, has repeatedly denounced Ms Khan, accusing her commission of being “deeply motivated by Islamophobia” and criticising her for praising Ahmadiyya Muslims — who 5Pillars brand a “heretical sect” despite describing themselves as “non-sectarian” on social media — for their peacefulness and tolerance of others….

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  1. ntesdorf says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 3:08 pm

    The word ‘fascist’ can be followed by the name of any Muslim or Sharia State quite accurately. The word ‘fascist’ is not connected to Israel which is the only real democracy in the Middle East incorporating all people regardless of religion.

    • Patrick B. Ludwig says

      Jul 2, 2019 at 4:56 am

      Very well said, Sir.
      Islamic doctrine fits the generally accepted definition of fascism quite perfectly.

      – Collectivism.
      – Primate of single group based on phänotyope, ideology, nationality, gender or other mutually exclusive criterium of classfication.
      – Discrimination/penslisation of non primary group members.
      – Leader principle – “Führerprinzip”.

      Usrael is not fascist, quite the contrary.

      These self styled “scholars” should do their homework before babbling rubbish.

      • J D S says

        Jul 2, 2019 at 10:28 am

        Racism…Nazism…either one would fit Islam like a glove…..God gave much more to Israel than they now have and IF they wanted to take back any of all of their God given land I feel sure God would destroy their enemies whilst they were taking it back. Seems people have forgotten that the Jews are STILL God’s chosen and he will always be on their side…..

        .I do have a theory as to why God allowed the Jews to be so persecuted during the Hitler reign but would probably be railed upon for posting it here. but throughout history God – always saved a REMNANT of his special people and those special people established the nation of Israel with a remnant from the Holocaust and take a closer look st that nation……They are the most powerful nation in the middle east and they are a Democracy….Other modest nations should learn a lesson from Israel DEMOCRACY WORKS…..when it’s leaders really have the interest of its people st heart.

        • J D S says

          Jul 2, 2019 at 10:32 am

          OOPS…ERROR..SHOULD READ. “Other mid eastern nations” NOT modest Nations,,

    • JM says

      Jul 2, 2019 at 5:01 am

      True. There is also gender equality, equality for people of all religions and none, and for LGBT people in Israel. If I were a Palestinian woman/gay/transgender/ individual etc. and were faced with the choice of living in either Gaza or israel, I know where I would choose to make my home.
      Am Yisrael Chai!

      • gravenimage says

        Jul 2, 2019 at 10:51 pm

        +1

    • William A Carr says

      Jul 2, 2019 at 9:23 am

      How is Israel racist when it has Arabs living permanently and VOTING in Israel. How is Israel fascist when people from outside Israel ie. so called ‘palestinians’ are often treated in Israeli hospitals, who give first class care BTW. Many wounded Syrians have also been cared for in Israel. It would do these 26 ‘scholars’, who are obviously men of ignorance and not learning, to have the experience of living under fascism for a time.
      Perhaps fascist Iran would provide a good exmple!

  2. John Allan says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 3:16 pm

    ‘Twenty-six “Muslim scholars” based in Britain have called for “fascist” Israel to be returned to the Arabs, and expressed their hope that “Jerusalem will be the capital of the Islamic Caliphate when it returns, Allah willing.”’

    Well, what a surprise.

    What’s a greater surprise – though it probably shouldn’t be – is that these c_nts are still in Britain. If they want to bow to an imaginary entity, fine. But let them do it in Allahland, not the UK.

    • Westman says

      Jul 1, 2019 at 10:34 pm

      These “scholars” should go for it and discover that Allah is NOT willing, in fact he doesn’t exist. These loudmouths, armchair generals, are a parasite on their people and would never put themselves at risk. They actually don’t realize how stupid and they sound. Islam will never own Jerusalem; that dream has passed and the West, particularly the US. is not going to push out Israel and give it to the most hating, violent, and anti-Semitic religion on the planet..

    • werner stojan says

      Jul 2, 2019 at 5:14 am

      amen

      • werner stojan says

        Jul 2, 2019 at 5:19 am

        Am Yisrael Chai

  3. R Russell says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 3:18 pm

    Bible prophecy getting closer to fulfillment every day. I don’t worry for He who keeps Israel neither slumbers nor sleeps.

    • JM says

      Jul 2, 2019 at 5:03 am

      True. Psalm 121, v. 4.

      Am Yisrael Chai!

    • William A Carr says

      Jul 2, 2019 at 9:24 am

      You seriously need to catch up with the 21st century

  4. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 3:24 pm

    If they return it to the Arabs, will the Zionists who bought all those properties be compensated, including interest, or will this be like what’s going on with farms now in Zimbabwe and South Africa?

    • Terry Gain says

      Jul 1, 2019 at 3:57 pm

      The Jews ain’t giving up Israel.

      • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

        Jul 1, 2019 at 5:55 pm

        But the Arabs are planning to take it. And don’t sell them short, ex-Prez Obama and John Kerry are still out there working for the cause. Remember, the Deep State never sleeps, never gives up. And I ain’t talking about just in the United States. There’s plenty of disloyalty to go around.

        • Terry Gain says

          Jul 1, 2019 at 6:16 pm

          APF

          IIRC, the surrounding Arab countries have attacked Israel 5 times since Israel was created. Israel is the sanctuary of the the Jewish people and the primitive Arabs are no match for them.

        • R Russell says

          Jul 2, 2019 at 3:40 am

          Alarmed Pig Farmer.
          Don’t worry, I can say on the authority of the c.2000 Bible prophecies fulfilled to the letter with no failures to date, that the other c 500 prophecies, including the one that the Jews will never again be removed from the land, that although there will be at least one future war, Israel is here to stay.
          Many people think these accounts are just stories of Jews in extremis due to the trauma of conflict, but there are many stories of Supernatural interventions during the wars already fought. Eg A group of Israeli soldiers were cut off from their comrades and were being pursued by the enemy (6 day war). In front of them was a mine field. What were they going to do? Both options were fraught with danger.
          Suddenly an unusually strong wind got up and blew the sand off the mines and the soldiers were able to escape safely.
          Angels were seen on the Golan as well. These are just two examples which come to mind. There were many more.
          There will be more conflict, but Israel is here to stay.

  5. Anne says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 3:31 pm

    And thats why i rest my case for Brexit..the enemy is well and truly within. Britain in or out of Britain is heading downwards. Rearranging furniture in a sinking ship😢

  6. Gina says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 4:16 pm

    What Muslims REALLY want is world-wide Sharia law. Ain’t happening. They need to go wherever Sharia law is practiced and stay there and realize that Western Civilization is NOT willing to go back to the Ninth Century.

  7. Wellington says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 4:24 pm

    Fascist Israel? Projection time again from Buttlims because Mo’s creed has fascism written all over it.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 1, 2019 at 8:42 pm

      Yep–more projection.

  8. Paul N Silas says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 4:32 pm

    In this day and age, if you oppose anything The Left or Is-lame wants you are a Fascist. It’s really sort of a joke, like the Commie Chinese calling the U.S. ” Yellow running Dogs” during the Korean War.

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Jul 1, 2019 at 6:00 pm

      I remember as a student hearing all the talk that we were in Vietnam because of our imperialism. So I asked a major antiwar leader of the time about the imperialism, he sniffed as if disgusted by my stupid question and answered that the U.S. was in Vietnam for the tin, sugar cane and rice. This very same visionary was famously arrested and made the cover of Time not a few weeks later. Unfortunately he didn’t get a stretch of time in the pokey, which he clearly could’ve used to study up on the definition of imperialism and fascism.

      Fascism has to be the most misused word in history.

  9. Don McKellar says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 4:32 pm

    Emboldened by their new conquest of Europe, this newly charged demand for destroying Israel is no surprise in the least.

  10. Jayell says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 5:33 pm

    It’s always struck me that there’s something wrong with that phrase ‘muslim scholars’. How can a crudely-plagiarised, fatuously inconsistent, pseudo-religious licence for institutionalised depravity concocted by and in the name of an illiterate, amoral Dark-Age criminal of dubious mental stability possibly command the intellectual status that would necessitate any of the demands of serious scholarship?

    • Barb says

      Jul 1, 2019 at 6:07 pm

      Totally agree! Now it’s time to repatriate them back to their homelands, as the Dalai Lama rightly advised!
      Britain belongs to the Brits!

  11. Mr. Cohen says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 5:35 pm

    Mr. Ben Cohen of JNS dot org said:

    “The answers were similarly emphatic when
    the respondents were asked for their views on
    Israel, which most Arabs still perceive
    as a threat to their very existence,
    even those living thousands of miles
    to the west in Morocco and Libya
    .”

    SOURCE:
    Arab Homophobia and Western Indifference
    by Mr. Ben Cohen of JNS dot org * 2019 June 30
    http://www.algemeiner.com/2019/06/30/arab-homophobia-and-western-indifference/

    NOTE: The distance between Israel
    and Morocco is approximately 2,400 miles.

    QUESTION: If this does not prove
    that Arabs think irrationally about Israel,
    then what would?

    • Westman says

      Jul 2, 2019 at 12:28 am

      Threat? To the Arab existence? What mendacity! Arab Muslim endemic hatred for Jews is the actual truth. No matter how far they may live from Israel, the Quran and Hadith demand hatred for Jews. The bigger the beard the more the Arab hatred for Jews and the tendency to support violence.

  12. Mr. Cohen says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 5:37 pm

    Who are the Palestinians?

    http://www.jns.org/opinion/the-invention-of-palestinians/

    http://www.algemeiner.com/2019/02/14/the-invention-of-palestinians/

    https://shilohmusings.blogspot.com/2018/06/who-are-palestinians.html

  13. Mr. Cohen says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 5:38 pm

    “Al Qaeda seeks to destroy the Jewish state completely.

    Much of its rhetoric and some of its attacks suggest that
    it sees international Jewry and Israel as interchangeable.

    The group’s rhetoric is also viciously anti-Semitic
    in addition to being anti-Israel.”

    SOURCE: Al Qaeda, the Islamic State,
    and the Global Jihadist Movement: What Everyone
    Needs to Know
    (chapter 3, page 47) by Daniel Byman,
    Oxford University Press, year 2015, ISBN: 019021726X (paperback)
    ISBN: 9780190217266 (paperback) ISBN: 0190217251 ISBN: 9780190217259

    http://www.jns.org/al-qaeda-figure-warns-arab-countries-over-normalization-with-israel/

    QUESTION:
    This quote is only about Al Qaeda, but should we
    believe that other radical Islamic terrorist organizations,
    with almost-identical beliefs, would behave differently?

  14. Mr. Cohen says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 5:40 pm

    “Killing civilians, particularly Jews and Americans,
    is deemed acceptable [by Al Qaeda] when
    other targets are too difficult to attack.”

    SOURCE: Al Qaeda, the Islamic State,
    and the Global Jihadist Movement: What Everyone
    Needs to Know
    (chapter 3, page 49)
    by Daniel Byman, Oxford University Press, year 2015,
    ISBN: 019021726X (paperback) ISBN: 9780190217266
    (paperback) ISBN: 0190217251 ISBN: 9780190217259

    QUESTION:
    This quote is only about Al Qaeda, but should we
    believe that other radical Islamic terrorist organizations,
    with almost-identical beliefs, would behave differently?

  15. Mr. Cohen says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 5:42 pm

    Mr. Daniel Byman said:

    “…roughly half of Palestinians say it
    [suicide bombing] is at least sometimes justified…”

    SOURCE: Al Qaeda, the Islamic State,
    and the Global Jihadist Movement: What Everyone
    Needs to Know
    (chapter 3, page 56)
    by Daniel Byman, Oxford University Press, year 2015,
    ISBN: 019021726X (paperback) ISBN: 9780190217266
    (paperback) ISBN: 0190217251 ISBN: 9780190217259

  16. Mr. Cohen says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 5:46 pm

    “Pornographic files are commonly found on the computers
    captured when terrorists are arrested or killed — including
    the computers captured when terrorists are arrested or
    killed — including computers found in the Bin Laden compound.

    Nor are animals safe:
    a sniper rifle sight using thermal imagery captured
    two Taliban fighters satisfying themselves with a donkey.”

    SOURCE: Al Qaeda, the Islamic State,
    and the Global Jihadist Movement: What Everyone
    Needs to Know
    (chapter 3, page 68) by Daniel Byman,
    Oxford University Press, year 2015, ISBN: 019021726X (paperback)
    ISBN: 9780190217266 (paperback) ISBN: 0190217251 ISBN: 9780190217259

    • Quazgaa says

      Jul 2, 2019 at 12:37 am

      I have seen the donkey video, lmfao

  17. Mr. Cohen says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 5:48 pm

    Daniel Greenfield said:

    “In his first year in office, [President
    Barack Hussein] Obama signed off on a
    $7.5 billion aid package for Pakistan.

    The Islamic terror state repaid us by
    harboring Osama bin Laden and aiding
    Islamic terrorists killing American soldiers.

    SOURCE:
    A Tiny Minority of Half a Million Jihadists
    by Daniel Greenfield, 2018 December 3
    http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2018/12/a-tiny-minority-of-half-million.html

    ===================================
    Daniel Greenfield said:

    This year, President Trump made drastic cuts
    to foreign aid to Pakistan after tweeting,
    “The United States has foolishly given
    Pakistan more than 33 billion dollars
    in aid over the last 15 years, and they
    have given us nothing but lies & deceit,
    thinking of our leaders as fools.”

    SOURCE:
    A Tiny Minority of Half a Million Jihadists
    by Daniel Greenfield, 2018 December 3
    http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2018/12/a-tiny-minority-of-half-million.html

  18. Mr. Cohen says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 5:53 pm

    Daniel Byman said:

    Textbooks in Saudi schools denigrate nonbelievers
    and the West and extol martyrdom.

    For example, Time magazine reported that
    “an 8th grade book states that Allah cursed Jews and
    Christians and turned some of them into apes and pigs.

    Ninth-graders learn that Judgment Day will not come
    “until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them.”

    A chapter for a 10th-grade class warns Muslims
    against befriending non-Muslims saying,

    “It is compulsory for Muslims to be loyal to each other
    and consider the infidels their enemy.”

    SOURCE: Al Qaeda, the Islamic State,
    and the Global Jihadist Movement: What Everyone
    Needs to Know
    (chapter 6, page 122)
    by Daniel Byman, Oxford University Press, year 2015,
    ISBN: 019021726X (paperback) ISBN: 9780190217266
    (paperback) ISBN: 0190217251 ISBN: 9780190217259

    ===================================

    ADL CEO Jonathan Greenblatt said:

    “The US cannot look the other way while Saudi Arabia
    features anti-Semitic hate speech year after year
    in the educational material it gives to its children.”

    SOURCE: Despite Pledges of Change,
    Saudi Textbooks Still Rife With Anti-Semitism,
    New ADL Report Finds

    http://www.algemeiner.com/2018/11/20/despite-pledges-of-change-saudi-textbooks-still-rife-with-antisemitism-new-adl-report-finds/

    http://www.jns.org/opinion/anti-semitism-is-alive-and-well-in-moderate-qatars-schools/

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 1, 2019 at 8:44 pm

      Thanks for all your links, Mr. Cohen.

    • Princess says

      Jul 1, 2019 at 9:11 pm

      Mr. Cohen, Please keep your posts short, condensed, and to the point. Whenever I see someone continuously and repeatedly posting posts after each other, or posts that are long as yours, I usually skip reading them altogether, and I’m certain that I’m not the only one.

  19. Barb says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 6:02 pm

    Immediately REPATRIATE these UK Muslim Scholars – they’re not TRUE citizens of Britain!
    They have been educated in the UK – now it’s time to GO and REBUILD your own countries!

  20. Angemon says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 6:04 pm

    No Western leader that is supporting and appeasing the jihad should be in power. It is treasonous.

    Indeed.

  21. Chaim Silver says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 6:06 pm

    tilek nihon ge henum mik, nta nakba..

  22. maghan says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 6:14 pm

    Those fake scholars are just enraged that Israel in the footsteps of El Cid of 15th century Spain has excised a portion of the expansive Arab empire based on land theft, murder,plunder and rape.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 1, 2019 at 8:46 pm

      So true–Muslims hate it when any Infidels are able to free themselves from the Muslim yoke.

  23. esther says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 6:17 pm

    I am a great scholar—-I support the RETURN OF THE CITY YATHRIB—(fraudulently renamed—-
    medina) TO DA JEWS HALLELUYAH!!!!

    • mortimer says

      Jul 1, 2019 at 8:15 pm

      Yes, esther, you saw the SAME pattern here: 1) SEIZE a Jewish town, 2) rename it, and 3) declare it the capital of the Islamic empire.

  24. Rob says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 7:34 pm

    Some facts. If we take the League of Nations British Mandate of Palestine as a starting point:
    1. The first dispensation of land was the creation of Jordan (not Israel) in the early 1920s.
    2. Prior to 1967, Gaza was occupied by Egypt with no mention of a ‘Palestine’.
    3. Prior to 1967, the West Bank was occupied by Jordan with no mention of ‘Palestine’
    4. Gaza was returned to PLO control in about 2005 and was according to reports at the time going to become a flower of the Eastern Med.
    5. The West Bank comprises Judea and Samaria. Can someone explain how Judea isn’t Jewish and how Samaria isn’t inextricably tied to Judea from Biblical times. Jesus himself mentioned the goodwill of Samaritans to Jews through the story of the Good Samaritan.
    6. Islam was 700 years away in Jesus’ era.

    • Steve Meikle says

      Jul 2, 2019 at 3:17 am

      well actually, no. the Jews and Samaritans hated each other. The Samaritans were those deported by the Assyrians who had inter married with other peoples in their exile. when they returned they were hated half breeds and did their worship on My Gerizim . For both of these things the Jews cordially hated then., seeing them as in breach of the Law of Moses on both counts. The point of the story of the Good Samaritan was precisely that, that a good deed from, a member of a heated enemy tribe or people group was more neighbourly than any thing else, for such a person was a good neighbour. This connects with “love your enemy. The story got is impact by being about members of two nations who loathed other

  25. mortimer says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 7:46 pm

    Jerusalem was never the capital of the Islamic Caliphate and so there is no reason for it to become that. It is much more likely that the new Islamic capital would be New York or Paris or London.

    Jerusalem appears not even one time in the Koran but Jerusalem, Zion and Israel are mentioned over 850 times in the OT and NT.

    Jerusalem was never an important city to Muslims. The only reason they wanted it was to show Islamic supremacy over Jews and Christians.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 2, 2019 at 10:58 pm

      Spot on, Mortimer.

  26. mortimer says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 7:51 pm

    Quotes from Arabs who claimed there was no ‘PALESTINE’

    “There is no such country as Palestine. ‘Palestine’ is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible… Palestine is alien to us.” – Awni Abdul-Hadi, Peel Commission testimony, 1937

    “There is no such thing as Palestine in history. Absolutely not.” – Arab historian, Dr. Philip Hitti, Anglo-American Committee testimony, 1946

    “It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but southern Syria.” – Saudi representative to the United Nations, 1956

    “Never forget this one point: there is no such thing as a Palestinian people. There is no Palestinian entity … Palestine is an integral part of Syria.” – Hafez al-Assad to Yasser Arafat

    “Palestine is Jordan and Jordan is Palestine; there is one people and one land, with one history and one and the same fate.” – Prince Hassan, brother of King Hussein, addressing the Jordanian National Assembly, 2 February, 1970

    “The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism.
    For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.”- PLO representative Zouhair Muhsen in 1977, speaking to a Dutch newspaper

    • Terry Gain says

      Jul 1, 2019 at 8:30 pm

      Thank you Mortimer. Good work.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 1, 2019 at 8:47 pm

      Fine post, Mortimer.

  27. Halal Bacon says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 7:59 pm

    muslim and scholar in the same sentence? now ain’t that an oxy-mormon

    • mortimer says

      Jul 2, 2019 at 10:02 am

      HB, while I see your point … that standards of scholarship in Islamic studies do not emphasize critical thought or alternate explanations … I think that critical thought is entirely lacking in Muslim academics. No more than critical thought is lacking in many Leftarded academics who have a one-track mind in favor of Marxist Leninism.

  28. Spiro says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 7:59 pm

    These stupid Muslims don’t like to here the fact that jursalem was Isreal long before their Warloard Mohammed
    Ever showed his mug

  29. gravenimage says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 8:51 pm

    UK based Muslim scholars: “demand fascist Israel be returned to Arabs”
    …………………….

    Muslims want to turn civilized democratic Israel into another Islamic crap hole like Gaza.

    • alex says

      Jul 1, 2019 at 10:06 pm

      Graven: hell, many of them want to turn the ENTIRE WORLD into a squalid, regressive craphole! Not all of them though, I will concede.

      • gravenimage says

        Jul 2, 2019 at 11:00 pm

        Yes–this is what Islam wants to do to *all of us*.

        Muslims most hate those who had been able to escape from the Muslim yoke, though–just look at the rhetoric against Spain.

  30. Joscefi says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 9:03 pm

    “muslim scholars”, something like an alchemist, but without the scientific knowledge that an alchemist would have…

  31. somehistory says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 9:23 pm

    Melchizedek was King and Priest to Jehovah God in the City of Salem to whom Abraham gave a tithe long before the Land of Israel was given to the Jews by our Creator…and Owner of that land and everything in the Universe…David claimed Jerusalem for his God, the same One Who had given the land, and Solomon built a Temple there in Jerusalem and dedicated it to Jehovah God., the One Who gave the land.

    Jesus, the Son of Jehovah God, and the One anointed as King and Priest, according to the manner of Melchizedek, said of satan, “The thief comes to steal, kill and destroy.” Jesus said of satan’s human children, “You are from your father the devil (the thief who comes to steal, kill and destroy) and you wish to do the desires of your father…the father of the lie.”

    Is it any wonder these moslim creeps are laying claim to the Land of Israel and the City of Jerusalem? They are imitating their “father…the liar and thief who came to..steal…kill…and destroy.”

    Does not the word “yob” apply to these so-called “scholars”? Perhaps they should all be put on a “watch list” and followed everywhere.
    The Land and the City do not belong to them…and never will. Even if they “steal” it. A thief does not own what he steals. Worshippers of satan may be allowed to “steal” Jerusalem and the Land of Israel, but they will never “own” it.

  32. Battle says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 9:44 pm

    A 20 ounce ginger ale, or 20 ounce coffee decaf says, Robert Spencer, ScholarOf Islam will not be signing the petition.

    • alex says

      Jul 1, 2019 at 10:14 pm

      Not unless he gets really drunk and does it as a joke. One may recall the classic stand-up comedy show “Delirious” by Eddie Murphy, early in his career. “Some white people get drunk and vote for the wrong person as a goof…so, they might get hammered and say, ‘I think I’ll vote for Jesse Jackson…I just voted for Jesse Jackson!’ The next day, they’re like, ‘He f**king won?!'”

  33. Mira Lea says

    Jul 1, 2019 at 11:57 pm

    Seriously?
    Christians and Jews should demand the return of all lands taken by the Ottoman Empire – starting with Constantinople aka Istanbul.
    Let us see how well that one rests with the Moslems.

    • mortimer says

      Jul 2, 2019 at 10:54 am

      MiraLea has identified the precise point implied in the term ‘GIVE BACK’. The Sultan of the Ottoman Empire was the de facto CALIPH of all Sunnite Muslims.

      To ‘GIVE BACK’ the territories conquered by the British Empire would involved re-constituting the Ottoman caliphate.

      Arabs never called themselves Palestinians until the KGB strategized the ploy with Yasser Arafat after the 1967 re-conquest of the West Bank.

  34. David M says

    Jul 2, 2019 at 1:04 am

    Police foil Muslim terror plans in Sydney, the Muslims were going to target churches, police stations & defence buildings. One day the MSM will need a new scapegoat to blame instead of Islamic State. I wonder if they will still be blaming Islamic State 10 years after they have ceased to exist:

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/three-alleged-isis-supporters-arrested-in-sydney-accused-of-terror-plot-20190702-p523az.html

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 2, 2019 at 11:02 pm

      Thanks for that link. Glad the plot was foiled.

  35. Steve Meikle says

    Jul 2, 2019 at 3:21 am

    It is even more fatuous to insist that the Jews give Israel back than to demand that the Muslims give back
    all of the Byzantine East which they themselves stole from the Roman Empire (only we scholars call them Byzantine, they called themselves Romaioi, or Romans .

    But as always the Muslims demand everything their own way, like spoiled children

  36. Tony46 says

    Jul 2, 2019 at 6:46 am

    Three thousands years ago, Jerusalem was already the capital of Israel and David her King

  37. Aussie Infidel says

    Jul 2, 2019 at 7:13 am

    “The surge in Islamic antisemitism has been alarming since the influx of Muslim migrants into Europe, particularly in Germany and France.”

    This is not surprising since the treasonous dhimmis at meetings of the Euro-Arab Dialogue (EAD) have taken Europe down this path for over 50 years.

    Read ‘Eurabia : The Euro-Arab Axis’, Foreign Policy, p101-110, by Bat Ye’or.

  38. James Gramling says

    Jul 2, 2019 at 8:46 am

    Unlike the rest of the civilized world, the Muslims have no concern about where the 6.5 million Jewish people will go. Actually, I believe they do have a plan in that regard.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 2, 2019 at 11:04 pm

      They do indeed…

  39. Battle says

    Jul 2, 2019 at 10:00 am

    James Gramling hits nail on head. Good.

  40. mortimer says

    Jul 2, 2019 at 10:14 am

    The claim that ‘Palestine’ was seized and must be given back to the historic ‘Palestinians’ involves making a series of historically incorrect assumptions and claims, none of which can be validated. None of the provinces in the Ottoman Empire was ever called ‘Palestine’ and thus no such entity was conquered by British Empire troops. The British referred to the region as Palestine and Mesopotamia, while the Turks and Arabs did not use the word ‘Palestine’. Arabs living in the region were either ‘townies’ or they were ‘Bedouins’ (herders). All were either ‘Arabs’ or ‘Syrians’.

    Arabs called the area ‘Lower Syria’. No one is considering giving ‘Palestine’ back to the Turks.

  41. CRUSADER says

    Jul 2, 2019 at 5:17 pm

    What would be great is if Temple Mount
    were returned to Israeli control, as they did
    a far better job at managing the place and space.

  42. Jim says

    Jul 4, 2019 at 6:12 pm

    I demand that ALL of the lands stolen by Muslims over the centuries be returned.

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