The BBC is not alone. The establishment media in the US as well as in the UK does everything it can to cover up the motivating ideology behind jihad terrorism. An uninformed person who reads the BBC article will get the idea that Mohammed Shehzad and Safaan Ali are one-off “lone wolves,” and not part of an international movement. The BBC never speaks honestly or directly about that movement.
The government is just as out of focus. We constantly see jihad terrorists such as these two “men from Bradford” arrested and charged in criminal court. That makes as much sense as the British army during World War II trying every German prisoner of war individually in civilian court. But to act as if this is what it is — a world war — would require the government to admit realities it would prefer to ignore.
“Two men from Bradford charged with terrorism offences,” BBC, July 10, 2019:
…Police said Mohammed Shehzad, 21, and Safaan Ali, 18, both from Bradford, were arrested on Tuesday.
Mr Shehzad, of Upper Woodlands Road, is charged with disseminating terrorist publications.
Mr Ali, of Fairbank Road, faces eight counts of possessing material likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism.
Goofy says
BBC considers it bad enough that they are from Bradford, and they don’t like to over dramatise the event of terror. Anyway it is a mere coincidence that they have Muslim names.
CRUSADER says
Isn’t there a demographic plan by Muslims
to take over populations effectively by goal year 2050 ?
Mimi says
Kust read illegals are the cause of 72% of crimes commetted in US ! 72 % !! YET MEDIA LIES , NEVER TELLS US THIS !! WHY ? WHO DO MEDIA COVER ??
Christianblood says
Mimi
That is right! Pro-Islamist Western MSM lies all the time and so are the spineless Western governments! The US regime just said they are giving billions of dollar worth of arms to Saudi Arabia and its Al-Qaeda proxies in Yemen to spread “human rights” and American liberal values. This is hilarious! Watch:
mortimer says
Only a sociopath like you thinks that killing is ‘hilarious’. You are psychiatric.
christianblood says
Mortomeir
Hilarious is the US regime official saying US is spreading liberal values and human rights by giving billions of dollar worth of arms to Saudi Arabia and its Al-Qaeda proxies in Yemen. Watch the video if you dare!
BTW, how do you see the Israeli/Jewish leader below saying that Jewish assimilation into the US society is ‘like a second Holocaust’?
More of this below:
https://www.rt.com/news/463799-israeli-minister-diaspora-holocaust/
Angemon says
“Hilarious is the US regime official saying US is spreading liberal values and human rights by giving billions of dollar worth of arms to Saudi Arabia ”
Again with that lie? You do know that the video’s title reads”US arms exports to Saudi Arabia”, right? Export =/= gift, period.
gravenimage says
christianblood often finds Muslims murdering people heartening.
And he condemns one Jewish person for saying something foolish–and it is–but he *never* condemns Muslims plotting an *actual* second Holocaust against the Jews. He has, in fact, many times lauded the Jihad against Israel.
Angemon says
“And he condemns one Jewish person for saying something foolish”
He probably thinks that JW is functionally equivalent to StormFront and expects to sow chaos between US-Israeli relations by talking along the lines of “have you seen what this Jew Israeli said?”. I’ve noticed in the last 2 or so years that Putin’s standing within the far-right – I mean the actual far-right, not the lefty meaning (anyone who disagrees with the far-left) – has been steadily falling. He’s no longer the “white saviour, defender of Western values who knows how to keep the muslims under his boot”, he’s becoming “that guy who is allowing millions of muslims into his nation who has a muslim-majority province in a state of open rebellion”.
Angemon says
“The US regime just said they are giving billions of dollar worth of arms to Saudi Arabia/i>”
Again with that lie? You do know that the video’s title reads”US arms exports to Saudi Arabia”. Export =/= gift, period.
Christianblood says
Angemon
You are filled up with BS propaganda that you have no space for the Truth. Watch the video again.
Angemon says
“You are filled up with BS propaganda that you have no space for the Truth. ”
“The Truth” is that the video clearly states “exports” while you claim it’s an offer. You are lying, plain and simple.
“Watch the video again.”
Right – I need to be exposed to the propaganda that failed to brainwash me, the same way you’re brainwashed, because it didn’t work to begin with. Nice “logic” you have there, tovarisch…
BTW, one should ask the question: why complain about the US selling weapons to the Saudis but ignoring the russians selling weapons to Syria – where they ended up in the hands of jihadis attacking Israel – Turkey or genocidal, Christian-persecuting Iran?…
gravenimage says
Not only are christianblood’s videos usually biased, but they seldom say what he claims they do.
lookmann says
These two must be of Pakistani [70%] or Bangladeshi [30%] origin.
Oh ! What a lovely way ‘diversity’ blossoms into !
Christopher Watson says
It’s so good to see that the golden days of BBC comedy are back. After the demise of Till Death do Us Part, Steptoe & Son and TW3 do we now get Till Jihad Do Us Part, Ahmed & Son and That Was the Bomb That Was? But surely the funniest program must be the News. Just how many ways are there NOT to tell us the facts?
b.a. freeman says
😀
+1
mortimer says
Robert Spencer writes: “The establishment media in the US as well as in the UK does everything it can to cover up the motivating ideology behind jihad terrorism.”
The ‘MOTIVATING IDEOLOGY’ behind jihad terrorism is AL WALAA WAL BARAA … ‘comradeship and cleansing’. Muslims are intimate ‘comrades’ of other Muslims, but Muslims are required to direct hostility and hate against the dirty kufaar … ‘for the sake of Allah’.
Muslims who do not hate kafirs and show hostility towards them will not enter Islamic paradise.
Al Walaa wal Baraa is normative Islam, rather than an aberration.
Al Walaa wal Baraa is the MOTIVATING IDEOLOGY behind all jihad.
b.a. freeman says
as usual, dead on, mortimer.
+1
Rufolino says
Many thanks again for reminding us of this fundamental doctrine.
mortimer says
Robert Spencer raises a very important legal point, namely, that all acts of JIHADIC TERRORISM are in fact acts of war and acts of treason against duly constituted countries.
The government and legal system should get its head on straight and admit that JIHADISM is a war of SUPREMACISM against non-Islamic nations ‘in the way of Allah’.
Islam is SUPREMACIST in an almost identical way to the SUPREMACISM of the Nazis.
Islamic terrorists are claiming that our Western countries are all invalid and must be replaced by Islamic Sharia-states. 60% of Muslims worldwide agree.
CRUSADER says
Bradford Boys will be Bradford Boys.
Just have to mention Bradford, and most will know who is who there….
Jayell says
Rumour has it that in the new Ordnance Survey maps the ‘City of Bradford’ will be renamed ‘Bradfordistan’.
CRUSADER says
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“By the year 2050, in a mere 37 years, Britain will be a majority Muslim nation.”
— Vincent Cooper, June 13 2013
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The background –
We don’t normally FactCheck other journalists, mainly because there’s enough spin from politicians to keep us busy.
But readers have asked for our take on a piece published on the Commentator website, which has generated a lot of online interest.
Vincent Cooper’s article, which has apparently attracted 2,600 “likes” on Facebook, suggests that birth rates among Muslims are much higher than among “native Europeans”.
The result is that, less than 40 years from now, the sound of church bells will apparently have been largely replaced by the Muslim call to prayer.
The article says it is based on “demographic facts”. What are the facts?
The analysis –
There were 1.6 million Muslims in England and Wales in 2001, or 3 per cent of the population, according to the census. By 2011 the Muslim population had grown to 2.7 million people or 4.8 per cent of the population.
So there’s no doubt that the number of people who identify themselves as Muslims has grown rapidly in recent years.
We’ve tried to phrase that carefully, because most measures of population (the census, the Labour Force Survey) rely on people describing themselves as members of certain religious and ethnic groups, and people’s attitudes about how they identify themselves can change.
The Muslim population of Eastern European countries appeared to soar between 1990 and 2000, but the most likely explanation is that the population didn’t really grow – it’s just people felt more comfortable about identifying themselves as Muslim after the collapse of the communist system, in which religious self-expression was discouraged.
Similarly, some commentators have suggested that part of the apparent leap in the number of Muslims in England and Wales can be explained by a reaction to the “war on terror” and a growing willingness for people to claim Muslim identity.
The Muslim Council of Britain has said that the 2001 figure was an underestimate, because Muslims were reluctant to identify themselves as such at the time.
Nevertheless, it seems likely there has been a real increase in the Muslim population of Britain, due to a mixture of immigration and higher birth rates.
Mr Cooper concentrates on the issue of birth rates, and basically suggests that if fertility among Muslim women continues to be higher than other demographic groups, then extending current trends into the future will give us a Muslim majority by 2050.
That flies in the face of evidence which shows that, while fertility rates have historically been significantly higher among Muslims, birth rates are now dropping among Muslim immigrant populations in Europe and in Muslim countries.
Birth rates leveling off —
A 2007 study by demographers Charles Westhoff and Tomas Frejka identified the same trend among Muslim immigrant populations in most countries where data was available, including Austria, Slovenia, the Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, Switzerland and England and Wales.
The total fertility rate among Muslim women is almost always higher than that of the native population, but “with the passage of time Muslim fertility moves closer to the fertility of the majority of the population in the respective countries”.
In this country, the study tracks changing fertility rates among women from Pakistan and Bangladesh (assumed to be overwhelmingly Muslim).
Women from Pakistan and Bangladesh tend to have more children, but the fertility gap shrinks over the decades.
The US Pew Forum think-tank predicts that this gap will continue to diminish in the coming decades in all European countries.
It put the 2005-10 fertility rate among UK Muslims at 3.0, which means that the average British Muslim had exactly three children in her lifetime, compared to 1.8 children for non-Muslim women.
By 2030 the rate is predicted to fall to 2.5 for Muslims and remain at 1.8 for non-Muslims.
Clearly this does suggest that there will be an increase in the size of the Muslim population, but the prediction comes a long way short of the numbers claimed by Mr Cooper.
Assuming patterns of net immigration do not change significantly, the Pew Forum thinks that there will be just over 5.5 million British Muslims, representing 8.2 per cent of the UK population, by 2030.
None of this is an exact science, and some demographers say total fertility rate overestimates the lifetime fertility of immigrants because it doesn’t adjust for the fact that they tend to have children soon after arriving.
The verdict –
Birth rates among native-born women are currently low across most of Europe and the developed world in general.
Demographers think a fertility rate of about 2.1 children per woman on average is necessary for the population of a developed country to sustain itself.
Most of the “native” populations of Europe are failing to have enough children, while birth rates are higher among Muslim immigrant populations, so it seems inevitable that the British Muslim population will rise in the coming decades.
But it’s equally clear that the gap in fertility between Muslim and non-Muslim will continue to lessen over time, as it has in recent decades.
Mr Cooper suggests that there are “strong cultural reasons for higher Muslim birth rates”, but this ignores the fact that birth rates have fallen dramatically in many Muslim countries.
FactCheck wouldn’t bet on the British Muslim population ever topping 10 per cent, let alone 50 per cent.
(By Patrick Worrall)
https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-will-britain-have-a-muslim-majority-by-2050
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Your verdict seems somewhat contradictory to the evidence that you have used.
The hypothesis is “Britain will have a Muslim majority by 2050″. You mention that in 2011, the percentage of Muslim people in England and Wales is 4.8%, and state that in 2030, the Muslim population will be 8.2 per cent, which means that in two decades, the population has increased 3.4%.
Also mentioned was that the birth rate eventually decreases, so if we assume that the birth rate will decrease and assume the percentage increase from 2030 to 2050 is approximately 3.0%, that equates to approximately 14% to 15%. Of course, immigration can’t be predicted, but assuming that the immigration rate is in fact constant, what hasn’t been taken into account is the potential increase in non-Muslim people leaving the country, causing the proportion of the population represented by Muslims to increase.
Stating that “FactCheck wouldn’t bet on the British Muslim population ever topping 10%” is an understatement, so with variables not taken into consideration and the evidence not being properly used, the real proportion could well be between 15% to 20% by 2050.
James Lincoln says
“By the year 2050, in a mere 37 years, Britain will be a majority Muslim nation.”
— Vincent Cooper, June 13 2013
Not likely true – but it may not matter.
According to Pew Research, the projected percent of Muslims in the UK is 16.7% assuming medium migration scenario
Even though that does not make the UK a majority Muslim nation, at 16.7% the UK is doomed- finished.
R Russell says
The UK is truly Dhimmified.
deeperinfo says
“Men”????
How binary.
Stop gender shaming and framing…
s/
DLR says
Unfortunately the termites have dug deep;
https://www.respectwords.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Reporting-on-Migration-and-Minorities..pdf
b.a. freeman says
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uh-h-h … they have indeed burrowed deep!
Paul says
Muslims may be out-breeding caucasians, christians but they do deliver a lot of retards and physically handicapped children due to generations of incest.
The bad news even the handicapped are encouraged to breed…
Paul
Angemon says
Typical British names… /sarc. off
b.a. freeman says
… two Muslims arrested for jihad terror plotting [are just] “two men from Bradford”
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and a certain adolf was just a man from austria.
liars.
Ade Fegan says
“some people did something”
CRUSADER says
BBC could learn a lot by studying the following:
Quran in English The Complete Infidel’s Guide to the Koran by Robert Spencer.
Quran in English The Complete Infidel’s Guide to the Koran by Robert Spencer.
Quran in English The Complete Infidel’s Guide to the Koran by Robert Spencer.
Mark C. Lowe (@MCLowe) says
Their equivalent of “teens”.
gravenimage says
UK: BBC calls two Muslims arrested for jihad terror plotting “two men from Bradford”
………………………
We see the media doing this all the time.
Fritz says
Then again, all people – in and outside of the UK – KNOW what “from Bradford” means these days.
Giacomo Latta says
”somebody did something”. Welcome to the new euphemism, ”two men from Bradford.”