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France: Lyon jihadi explains why he went on knife rampage: “They do not read the Qur’an”

Aug 31, 2019 3:28 pm By Robert Spencer

Authorities are searching for a motive, at least at this point refusing to acknowledge what is right in front of their faces.

“Attack with a knife in Villeurbanne: a witness notes a religious motivation,” translated from “Attaque au couteau à Villeurbanne: un témoin évoque une motivation religieuse,” Le Progrès, August 31, 2019 (thanks to BD):

“They do not read the Qur’an”

According to a direct witness of the attack who spoke to Le Progrès, the suspect reportedly made a religious reference at the time of the events: “They do not read the Koran”.

According to our information, the victim, aged 19, was originally from Isère (38) and went by bus to the Woodstower festival in Miribel.

A direct witness explains that the unidentified suspect, who claimed to be of Afghan nationality, was armed with a large fork and a large barbecue knife.

He allegedly attacked several people at the bus stop. All witnesses were held for questioning….

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  1. Lydia Church says

    Aug 31, 2019 at 3:36 pm

    And they shouldn’t read the koran!
    It’s an evil book!

    He read the koran, and hence he went on the knife rampage!

    It’s elementary… my dear Watson!

    • mortimer says

      Aug 31, 2019 at 10:21 pm

      By jove, Holmes! They must’ve read the 164 JIHAD VERSES in the Koran!

      The Koran’s 164 Jihad Verses: K 002:178-179, 190-191, 193-194, 216-218, 244; 003:121-126, 140-143, 146, 152-158, 165-167,169, 172-173, 195; 004:071-072, 074-077, 084, 089-091, 094-095,100-104; 005:033, 035, 082; 008:001, 005, 007, 009-010, 012, 015-017, 039-048,057-060, 065-075; 009:005, 012-014, 016, 019-020, 024-026, 029,036, 038-039, 041, 044, 052, 073, 081, 083,086, 088, 092, 111, 120, 122-123; 016:110; 022:039, 058, 078; 024:053, 055; 025:052; 029:006, 069; 033:015, 018, 020, 023, 025-027, 050; 042:039; 047:004, 020, 035; 048:015-024; 049:015; 059:002, 005-008, 014; 060:009; 061:004, 011, 013; 063:004; 064:014; 066:009; 073:020; 076:008.

      I see it now, Holmes! There are giant footprints leading straight to those verses! Excellent!

      • St. Ferdinand III says

        Sep 1, 2019 at 3:02 am

        Lots more hate than 164….1572 verses of hate speech in Mein Koran
        More Christophobic than Judeaophobic imo as well.
        But don’t tell Pope Stupidus, it may confuse him.

        • PRCS says

          Sep 1, 2019 at 6:48 am

          He’s already confused.

  2. revereridesagain says

    Aug 31, 2019 at 3:39 pm

    Ah, well that explains everthing. Just ask “Reliance of the Traveller” — no one is to be prosecuted for killing an “infidel”. End of discussion. Move on, nothing to see here…

  3. gravenimage says

    Aug 31, 2019 at 3:41 pm

    France: Lyon jihadi explains why he went on knife rampage: “They do not read the Qur’an”
    ……………………..

    And he doesn’t mean reading the Qur’an the way historians do, let alone as Anti-Jihadists like those here do–he means Muslims and those set on becoming Muslims.

    Anyone else deserves to die as this pious Mohammedan sees it.

    • Angemon says

      Aug 31, 2019 at 4:44 pm

      Yup.

    • PRCS says

      Aug 31, 2019 at 5:02 pm

      Anyone else deserves to die as this pious Mohammedan sees it.

      Then, he has it wrong.

      He’s supposed to offer the ‘filthy unbelievers’ (a) reversion (not conversion, as everyone is born a Muslim–we’re told), (b) the dhimmitude ‘protection’ racket, or (c )warfare. In that order.

      I can understand his frustration, given that so few of the West’s kuffar are willing to play along.

      • Rufolino says

        Sep 1, 2019 at 4:29 am

        Many thanks for pointing out fact that Dhimmitude is a PROTECTION RACKET, one of the most primitive sorts of scam in the handbook of crime.

        This was staring me in the face but I hadn’t noticed that, if something looks like a spade, its probably a spade.

        • PRCS says

          Sep 1, 2019 at 6:50 am

          You’re welcome and I agree.

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 1, 2019 at 9:31 pm

          Yes–paying Jizya is the offer Infidels can’t refuse…

  4. 1PO'dPatriot says

    Aug 31, 2019 at 3:49 pm

    How could this attacker possibly have known whether or not the individuals he terrorized & stabbed read the Quran?
    I mean, could this terrorist tell just by L👀KING at all the people around him & somehow someway tell that they didn’t/don’t read the Quran??
    Like, does this guy have religiously issued xray glasses – where he can “see” & supernaturally know whether or not his targets read the Quran?!?
    Nah.
    He simply used his professed religious beliefs as an excuse to attack wholly innocent strangers who neither said NOR did ANYTHING, in tf slightest, to this man; to be terrorized, assaulted & injured.
    Yet various governments & NGOs continue with their rabid meth-like obsession with AND addiction to burdening their indigenous taxpaying populations with being indentured opportunistic tax slave targets.
    God forbid they be labeled “racist” “Islamophobic” or WHATEVER “ist”, “ism” or “ic” is en vogue, on a whim & as the corrupt spirit moves them.

    There’s ZERO RATIONAL WAY – WHATSOEVER – that this terrorist could possibly or even remotely know whether or not complete literal steangers read the Quran or not.

    He simply used his own beliefs as THE pretext to attack, terrorize, injure & kill.

    And the government & NGOs will coddle him to the detriment & further danger of anyone around him – even fellow Muslims whom this monster suspects of allegedly NOT being Muslim enough.

    All I can say is we get EXACTLY what we ALLOW.
    No more & sure as hell ZERO less.

    I guess his beliefs, unlimited prenatal to infinity taxpayer subsidized welfare & terrorizing the indigenous population of his chosen host country matters more above everything & everyone else, huh??

    I mean, WHO KNEW?!?
    SMH…..

    • Martin says

      Sep 1, 2019 at 6:30 am

      Why should we read the Quran we are Christians

      • PRCS says

        Sep 1, 2019 at 6:56 am

        We’re not all Christians.

        I read Qur’an (foolishly provided per CAIR’s ‘explore the Qur’an campaign) to understand what drives the Muslim world.

        Yes, I ‘explored it’, and I’m disgusted by it.

      • Norman Gardner says

        Sep 1, 2019 at 12:48 pm

        You have to know your enemies thoughts and where they come from.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 1, 2019 at 9:33 pm

      I read the Qua’an only to understand the threat of Islam.

      • Paul J says

        Sep 2, 2019 at 6:09 am

        Know thine enemy. The communist manifesto is another “interesting” read.

  5. somehistory says

    Aug 31, 2019 at 4:17 pm

    If he had said the ugly phrase so common to murderers and even rapists of the islam cult, would they still be searching for a motive? Why, yes they would!

    His motive is clear. Trying to cover it up helps absolutely no one. No one on earth benefits from trying to hide the ugly, evil motive.

    • mortimer says

      Aug 31, 2019 at 10:33 pm

      Please, have no fear! Inspector Clouseau of the Sureté will find the MOTIVE.

      Now then, what do we know? One, that Professor Fassbinder and his daughter have been stabbed. Two, that someone has stabbed them. Three, that my hand is on fire.

  6. Christopher Watson says

    Aug 31, 2019 at 4:53 pm

    He attacked people in a large bus station where people were waiting. He is a 19 year-old Afghan refugee.Three of the 8 wounded are seriously hurt. The assassin refuses to talk. Of course the police do not know the motive. Do they ever?

    • Norman Gardner says

      Sep 1, 2019 at 12:50 pm

      The victim was a 19 year old. The assailant mid 30`s.

      • gravenimage says

        Sep 1, 2019 at 9:34 pm

        True.

  7. Christopher Watson says

    Aug 31, 2019 at 5:01 pm

    No, sorry, the Afghan is 33. His victim was 19. Got it wrong but I’m trying to write the TV report. He was held by some bus drivers. Brave men.

    • CRUSADER says

      Aug 31, 2019 at 5:51 pm

      What else is there for The Brave to do but to act?

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 1, 2019 at 9:34 pm

      Yes–glad to see that passersby stopped the attack and held the Jihadist.

  8. DHazard says

    Aug 31, 2019 at 5:36 pm

    How did he know they weren’t reading the Quran? Were they happy and smiling? Were they holding hands? Were they whistling or singing? All of these are signs that someone either hasn’t read the Quran or did and found it worthless.

  9. FYI says

    Aug 31, 2019 at 5:39 pm

    Would that include his “prophet” muhammmed “who could neither read nor write”?k7:157

    {The attacker might have missed that in his reading, just as pope francis famously claimed that a”proper reading of the koran shows it to be opposed to every form of violence”,a statement confirming that he never actually read it.That’s sort of like saying that a “proper reading of mein kampf shows it to be opposed to every form of antisemitism”Of course we know francis,the “pope of the Ear”, has difficulties with his hearing as well as his understanding of what exactly constitutes a “proper” reading of anything}

    In koran 10:94 allah tells muhammed to question those who “READ the ‘scripture that was before thee”{=the BIBLE}

    Yes,that’s right:not only did allah CONFIRM the Bible at the time the koran was written[see koran 3:3} but he tells muhammed to consult those who READ the Bible.
    {Since muhammed was illiterate he could not of course have READ the Bible but allah says he could question those who COULD READ the Bible:this shows that the Bible must be TRUE as allah shows it to be reference}

    “WE shall make thee read o muhammed so thou shalt not forget”
    koran 87:6

    A shame muhammed could not READ THE BIBLE.

    • CRUSADER says

      Aug 31, 2019 at 5:50 pm

      Amazing what opens up when one opens up a Bible and then opens up to it.

      • FYI says

        Aug 31, 2019 at 6:05 pm

        allah’s advice in k10:94 is unwitting because if muslims READ the Bible and compare it with the koran,they will see how WRONG the koran is:The Golden Rule is missing in the koran,that essential 2nd chief commandment{lev 19:18 “LOVE one another”}found both in the Torah and Gospel is MISSING in islam and even contradicted by k5:51

        WHY is the Bible BANNED by islamic authorities if allah tells muhammed to consult it?

        If muslims read the Bible,they would realize they are being scammed by the islamic authorities who would lose their POWER,CONTROL AND MALIGN INFLUENCE over people in the islamic world.

        If muslims READ the Bible,”The Truth will set them FREE”

        The Bible is the greatest threat to the “holy” men of islam!

        Just consider that 2nd chief commandment and the Golden Rule:if muslims knew this they would see the folly of jihadism,endless wars against “infidels”….and that al LAH is an Arab god of hate,of al walaa wal baraa,and NOT the REAL DEAL{The Judeo-Christian God of “LOVE GOD,LOVE OTHERS”}

  10. CRUSADER says

    Aug 31, 2019 at 5:49 pm

    As with the case of Jay Smith, I travel with a small Queer’an
    along with a bigger Bible….

  11. James Lincoln says

    Aug 31, 2019 at 6:06 pm

    As these cases pile up, it’s going to get harder and harder to cover them up.

  12. Westman says

    Aug 31, 2019 at 6:08 pm

    So this is how France makes “Le Progrès”? Ignore the Islamic motivation and it doesn’t exist? How is Le Progrès with migrant integration working out?

  13. No Fear says

    Aug 31, 2019 at 8:45 pm

    JW is the first place I heard about this event.

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 31, 2019 at 8:54 pm

      I am not surprised–same for me, even though I was watching CNN earlier today.

  14. tgusa says

    Aug 31, 2019 at 11:02 pm

    I heard he just got done reading the Islamic version of How to Win Friends and Influence People.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 1, 2019 at 9:45 pm

      Now *that* is funny–very grim, but funny.

  15. Joe says

    Aug 31, 2019 at 11:21 pm

    Religion of peace.

  16. KWJ says

    Sep 1, 2019 at 1:10 am

    Whew, I’m out of the barbecue, I read the Qur’an. He should be attacking Muslims first (unless some of the victims were Muslim) because most Muslims don’t read the Qur’an. I find that some young Muslims online have to go running to Islaminfo and really aren’t capable of discussing the stories and concepts. They appear to know some popular comebacks such the battles were all in defense which is preposterous.

    I remember a funny YT thread where people were naming the Weapons of Peace mostly used in Europe…the truck of peace (France), the ice pick of peace (England), the crossbow of peace (Germany) the harpoons of peace (Corsica angry mob), the hammer of peace (France) and so on. Now we have the barbecue set of peace.

    Maybe it’s him who doesn’t read the Qur’an and to overcome his shame he attacks infidels for what he is guilty of and gets some bonus points from the All-Knowing Allah who sees everything.

    I know a couple of decent, hard-working Afghan guys at the 7-Eleven. Europe gets more psycho ones.

  17. Gunter Deleyn says

    Sep 1, 2019 at 1:54 am

    I am living in Belgium and the only comment by the press online this morning was that the major of Lyon warned the people not to be too fast thinking this was a terror attack. And even that is now is deleted. I can’t find a trace of that stabbing in Lyon anymore.

    • Giacomo Latta says

      Sep 1, 2019 at 11:39 am

      The less one is able to read about religious-based stabbings the more likely one is to be a victim of one. What you don’t know can certainly hurt you.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 1, 2019 at 9:47 pm

      Disgusting.

  18. R Russell says

    Sep 1, 2019 at 4:05 am

    Very few Muslims read the Koran because it is written in a form of Arabic few understand. It is also frowned upon to translate the Koran into any other language.
    Most Muslims get their teaching from the Imams in the mosques thus it is likely true that they don’t read the Koran.
    It’s just another take on the 4 words we need to keep in mind when listening to what some Muslims say: Taqiyya, Tawriya, Kitman and Muruna.

    • PRCS says

      Sep 1, 2019 at 7:23 am

      I don’t blame uneducated Muslims for that quandary.
      Most of those in Afghanistan (as but one example) who can read don’t read Arabic, let alone Classical Arabic, and are left to read it as translated in their native language(s): leaving them subject to the ‘you can’t properly understand it in a translation’ line.
      And those who can’t read at all, well….

      • Giacomo Latta says

        Sep 1, 2019 at 9:22 pm

        Web sites dedicated to true Islam have translated the koran to everything short of Klingon. Those who truly want to know the true entity of nastiness, hatred, xenophobia, sexual deviation and more that is Islam can inform themselves easily enough. As a t-shirt I read once said, ”in this age of information, ignorance is a choice.”

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 1, 2019 at 9:50 pm

          Nope–that too:

          “Muslim Nerds Translate Quran to Klingon”

          https://islamicanews.com/muslim-nerds-translate-quran-klingon/

  19. geoff fury says

    Sep 1, 2019 at 5:17 am

    i always carry a few pages of the quran in my back pocket .just in case im caught short some where and theres no wipes .thats all its any good for is wiping the shit up

  20. No Muzzies Here says

    Sep 1, 2019 at 8:05 am

    It’s interesting that the Jihadis themselves make the close and undeniable connection between their violence and their religion, Islam.

    They know it better than we do. We should take them seriously and stop pretending that their religion is a religion of peace and love, and that Jihadis are only misinterpreting the religion.

  21. Angemon says

    Sep 1, 2019 at 12:18 pm

    I wonder if the judge in the case will accuse him of not having read the quran either because otherwise he’d know that islam is a religion of peace…

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 1, 2019 at 9:50 pm

      Ha ha

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