One more Open-Mosque Ask-Muslims-Anything Night, this time in Tyler, Texas. The story is here:
People who don’t believe Jesus was a prophet cannot be Muslims. About one-third of Africans brought to the United States as slaves were believed to be Muslim. And Muslims don’t consider Christians infidels.
So Christians are to be impressed that Muslims consider Jesus to be a prophet; he’s one of 124,000 prophets in Islam, albeit the most revered after Muhammad himself. Mention of Jesus in this way is supposed to be evidence of how close Islam is to Christianity (“See? We revere Jesus, too.”) But the main fact about Jesus for Christians is that he is the Son of God, which belief Muslims contemptuously deny. It might be more meaningful to rephrase that first sentence above as this: “People who believe Jesus is the Son of God can’t be Muslims.”
As for the second sentence, with its claim that “one-third” of slaves brought to America “were believed to be Muslim,” there is not here, nor anywhere, evidence presented to support this claim, which is hedged here by the word “believed” and elsewhere by “thought to be” or “some think.” Who are these unnamed people who “believe” or “claim” that one-third of the slaves were Muslims? Where has their “research” been peer-reviewed and published? Give us their names, their qualifications, and the papers they have written on the subject of Muslims in the American slave population, so we may read and judge their work for ourselves. Have they somehow been able to collect data on the religious beliefs of slaves that has escaped everyone else? The Africans whom European slavers bought on the coast of West Africa were mostly from areas where Islam had not yet fully penetrated. That doesn’t mean that no Muslims were sold as slaves in the Atlantic slave trade, just that they must have been very few not to have been noticed. The slave traders did not record Muslims as being part of their human cargo. Furthermore, if one-third of all the slaves had been Muslims, why did the slave-owners themselves never comment on what would have been a hard-to-miss presence of these Muslims? Surely that would have been a fact worth recording.
There was a handful of Muslims among the slaves, and the same half-dozen Muslim names are always invoked, out of many millions. The slave traders and plantation owners and overseers didn’t notice these Muslim slaves, nor did the non-Muslim slaves. All of them failed to mention these Muslim slaves in written records. I know of only one such report, about a certain Bilal Muhammad and the claim that he served dozens of Muslims as imam, on a plantation on Sapelo Island, Georgia. It should be noted that only in recent decades have such extravagant claims about Muslim slaves started to be made.
The third sentence claims that Muslims “do not consider Christians to be infidels.” Not exactly. When in the Qur’an reference is made to Unbelievers, or infidels, this refers to all non-Muslims, including Christians and Jews. At the same time, Christians and Jews also have a special designation, Ahl al-Kitab, or People of the Book. Some Muslims suggest that this means they are not to be considered infidels, but another category altogether. Yet Muslims are commanded in 5:51 not to take Christians and Jews as friends, “for they are friends only with each other.” And in 98:6 they are told that all non-Muslims, without exception, should be considered “the most vile of created beings.” That certainly sounds like there is little difference between “Infidels” and “Christians and Jews.” The only difference would have been after conquest by Muslims. Christians and Jews, the People of the Book, then had the three options of death, conversion to Islam, or remaining alive as dhimmis, while other non-Muslims had to choose between death and conversion. Zoroastrians, and then some Hindus, would later be treated as dhimmis in order that the Jizyah might be exacted from them.
Those were some of the facts that members of the community made clear at the 16th annual open house of the East Texas Islamic Society, a mosque on Texas Highway 64 in Tyler where hundreds worship on Friday afternoons.
The roughly 200 guests were offered complimentary copies of the Quran, a book on the similarities between Christianity and Islam, and iftar, a ceremonial meal that Muslims eat after sundown to break their fast during Ramadan.
Much of the Qur’an is difficult to comprehend without a commentary. Who would know without a commentary that a “struggle on the path of Allah” can mean violent Jihad? I’d recommend to all those guests who came away with their “complimentary” Qur’ans to read the verses very s-l-o-w-l-y, and to accompany those readings with the explanatory line-by-line commentary to the Qur’an offered by Robert Spencer, at his “Blogging the Qur’an” site. That will prevent many misunderstandings.
The free iftar dinner is always one of the enticements at these Open-Mosque nights. Food is a big part of all Muslim outreach events. It’s amazing how grateful and pleased people are to be given a free meal consisting of exotic dishes. The food, as intended, fosters feelings of camaraderie and good fellowship between Muslim hosts and non-Muslim guests. Are people so constituted that they can be swayed by such things? Yes, I’m afraid so.
Ramadan is the ninth month in the Muslim calendar, the month that Muhammad was shown the Qur’an by God, and Muslims observe it by fasting from sunrise to sunset. At the East Texas Islamic Society, observers broke their fasts at 8:17 p.m. with a prayer, followed by the community meal.
Like Christianity and Judaism, Islam is rooted in the story of Abraham. The religion believes that Abraham was the first prophet of God; that there were several other prophets, including Adam, Noah, Moses, Jesus and others; and that Muhammad was the final messenger of God’s law.
There are not just “several other prophets,” but according to a hadith, Muhammad said there were 124,000 prophets in Islam.
In Muhammad’s time, mosques were not just for Muslims to go and worship,” Anwar Khalifa, a member of the East Texas Islamic Society, told attendees. “They allowed Christians to come and hold their services in the mosques.
Anwar Khalifa deceptively describes Christians being allowed to pray in “mosques” in Muhammand’s time. What happened was not a routine practice but a single instance, when the Christians of Najran were invited by Muhammad to pray in a mosque, before engaging in a dialogue with him. Khalifa ought to have said: “In one instance, Muhammad invited the Christians of Najran to pray in a mosque before meeting with him.” It was not an invitation to all Christians, nor was it an invitation to pray in any other mosque, and at any time, but only once, in that particular mosque, an invitation extended by Muhammad only to the Christians from Najran, just before they were to meet with him. That puts quite a different slant on the occasion.
“We want to be following the tradition of Prophet Muhammad and have our place open for anyone who wants to use our mosque,” Khalifa said. “So in that tradition, our place is open, and we have our open house here and we welcome people to come.”
Yasmeen Khalifa, a student at the University of Texas at Tyler, told the crowd some basic facts about Islam and Muslims. She also defined terms that people might see misused in other places, like jihad or Sharia.
Yes, we are all aware just how often that word “jihad” is misused to refer to a struggle, ordinarily using violence, against non-Muslims. How wrong can you get? In reality, as Yasmeen Khalifa will be happy to explain, Jihad refers to that inner struggle to master yourself and your desires; it’s a spiritual discipline and has nothing to do with violence against Unbelievers, as 109 verses in the Qur’an might possibly lead you to believe.
Islam is based on five pillars: professing the faith; praying five times a day; dedicating one-fortieth of your wealth to helping people in need; fasting from food, water and worldly pleasures during Ramadan; and making a pilgrimage to Mecca.
The Five Pillars of Islam are no cause for alarm, but there are two key points left out of this recital.
First, when Muslims say the five daily prayers, in those prayers, they are cursing the Infidels 17 times a day. Robert Spencer explains:
In the course of praying the requisite five prayers a day, an observant Muslim will recite the Fatihah, the first surah of the Qur’an and the most common prayer in Islam, seventeen times. The final two verses of the Fatihah ask Allah: “Show us the straight path, the path of those whom Thou hast favoured; not the (path) of those who earn Thine anger nor of those who go astray.” The traditional Islamic understanding of this is that the “straight path” is Islam — cf. Islamic apologist John Esposito’s book Islam: The Straight Path. The path of those who have earned Allah’s anger are the Jews, and those who have gone astray are the Christians.
Second, when Yasmeen Khalifa describes Zakat, or charitable giving, she describes it as “helping people in need.” Sounds good, but it’s not true. The Zakat should only be given to fellow Muslims. But it would not have sounded sufficiently generous for her to have said: “dedicating [2.5% of your wealth] to helping fellow Muslims in need.”
Jihad means struggle, she said, and can mean small struggles like helping people who are oppressed, or the greatest struggle, trying to make yourself a better person every day.
That’s it? Jihad can mean “small struggles like helping people who are oppressed”? Might that include sending money to Hamas, Islamic Jihad and Hezbollah, to pay for weapons and fighters, as a way to help the poor Palestinians who are “oppressed” by the Zionists? I suspect that’s what she has in mind, and hopes the unwary infidel guests will not understand. As for the greatest Jihad being that of “trying to make yourself a better person every day,” that definition is undermined by the 109 Qur’anic verses that matter-of-factly command Jihad — Jihad not as daily self-improvement, but as violence, warfare, terrorism.
Sharia includes tenets of Islam like taking care of your family and your parents, practicing business fairly, not lying and not committing adultery, she said. No country implements Sharia, or Islamic law, and Muslims are expected to follow the law of the land, she said.
“No country implements Sharia”? There are 15 Muslim states that implement important parts of the Sharia: Afghanistan, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, certain regions in Indonesia, the Maldives, Malaysia, Mauritania, Nigeria, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, United Arab Emirates, and Yemen.
Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Iran, and Sudan are the countries that are most Sharia-compliant, especially in family law, criminal law, and the laws pertaining to blasphemy and to apostasy. Yasmeen Khalifa dismisses Sharia as almost irrelevant; this is a dishonest attempt to allay the justified fears of non-Muslims. As for Muslims following “the law of the land,” she knows perfectly well that there are Sharia courts dispensing Muslim justice alongside the regular courts, in the U.K., but also in France, Germany, the Benelux countries, Denmark, and Sweden. Muslims may be “expected to follow the law of the land,” but their use of Sharia courts suggests they do not feel bound to do so.
Khalifa wears a type of head covering called a hijab, which covers the hair and then wraps around the neck. She said Muslim women wear different types of coverings, or none at all, based on their own personal preferences. In her family, she wears a hijab and her sister does not.
She says that wearing the hijab is purely a matter of a woman’s personal preference. That’s wildly misleading. Women who took off their hijabs in a group protest have been imprisoned in Iran. The lawyer who defended those women was herself sentenced to 38 years in prison. No woman in Afghanistan would appear in public without her burqa; no woman in Saudi Arabia would dare to appear without her niqab. It’s not only the state, represented by the religious police, that enforces the wearing of cover, but the male relatives, too, who make sure that no dishonor is brought to the family by the failure of a girl or woman to wear the appropriate cover. 91% of the world’s honor killings are committed by Muslims. They are seldom, to only mildly, punished. For her failure to wear a hijab, Aqsa Parvez was strangled to death by her father and brother, There have been many others who have suffered the same fate in Muslim countries; her case is known because she was murdered in Mississauga, Ontario.
She said it’s believed that 30 percent of enslaved Africans brought to the United States were Muslim. Jesus is equal to all other prophets, such as Adam or Moses, and Muslims believe he was the Messiah, but, unlike Christians, do not believe he was the son of God.
This ‘30 percent of slaves were Muslims” is a factoid plucked out of the ether. It is discussed in a paragraph above. There is no basis for this extravagant claim, and many reasons (see above) for dismissing it. As for Jesus, it is surprising that Ms. Khalifa passed up a chance to declare that Jesus is, after Muhammad, the most revered of the prophets. Jesus is referred to by name 25 times in the Qur’an. In at least one of those 25 times, he is called the “Messiah.”
Forced marriages are not allowed, but consensual marriages have some defined characteristics. “With property rights, once a woman is married, what’s hers is hers, but what’s his is theirs, so that’s kind of cool,” Khalifa said. The crowd started applauding.
“Forced marriages are not allowed”? Tell that to the girls aged 10 to 13, who are married off to men 20, 30, 40 years older, by their families in Afghanistan, Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia. Aisha was six when she was forcibly betrothed to Muhammad; she was nine years old when Muhammad consummate his marriage to her. Muhammad, the Perfect Man, is to be emulated. Forced marriages, often to cousins, or to much older men, are to be found all over the Muslim lands. What can Yasmeen Khalifa possibly be thinking, other than “I can say anything, and these kaffirs will believe it.”
The property picture is much less favorable to women than Yasmeen Khalifa would have you believe. The Muslim husband acts as the manager of his wife’s property, for he is “superior” to her (4:34) in the relevant skills. If he dies, she is entitled only to 1/8 of the total property if there are children, and 1/4 if there are none. If she dies first, the surviving husband is entitled to 1/4 of the property if there are children, and 1/2 of the property if there are none. According to Islamic law, a daughter inherits only half that of a son. And if a Muslim wife wants a divorce, she has to return the bride-price, or mahr, to her husband. To say that “what’s hers is hers, but what’s his is theirs” is a travesty of Islamic family law.
Shamsa Ashraf, the principal of the society’s Faith Academy, said she and her students have a day just like most elementary schools. There are assemblies, classes and the students take the same standardized tests that are given in Texas public schools.
Ashraf said children start out their lives as innocent people, and somewhere down the line many lose the tolerance, respect and love that they once had. She said that loss is learned, and it’s important for schools to teach children children [sic — possibly “teach compassion to children” is meant]
“We need to make sure that when those children grow up to be teenagers and later on adults — if they have that same attitude, those same attributes, that same behavior, we would have a better world,” Ashraf said.
What causes little Muslim children to “lose the tolerance, respect, and love” — for whom? — they once had? Could it be their exposure to such Qur’anic verses as 5:51, where Muslims are instructed not to take Christians and Jews as friends? Or 98:6, where they are told that non-Muslims are the “most vile of created beings” while they learn, in 3:110, that as Muslims they are the “best of peoples”? Could it be all those verses that instruct them to “fight” and to ‘kill” and to “smite above the necks of” and to “strike terror in the hearts of’ Unbelievers? Or are they affected by learning, when they start to read the hadith, that Muhammad himself boasted that “war is deceit” and that “I have been made victorious through terror”?
Shamsa Ashraf doesn’t say. Under the circumstances, can you blame her?
Concerned Citizen says
Shake hands with the Trojan Horse you DARN IDIOT…
william carr says
I am not a Christian but I was brought up in a Christian society. What I would ask Muslims is why is there such a yawning gap or chasm between the life we are told Jesus lead and the life of Mohammad as we learn from the Quran and hadiths? How may people did Jesus kill for example, how many did he rob?
Mohammad it is quite clear murdered, massacred prisoners and robbed his neighbours, it is quite clearly stated.
In fact the whole of Islamic society was founded on looting those they conquered. True so did Christian nations but was that the teaching of Jesus? No. But it was the teaching of Mohammad and his ‘exemplary’ behaviour
Patriot2G says
So glad to see this article here. I was waiting to see it on CNN or MSNBC.
Not.
Peter Buckley says
If these are “open” events, what is to stop a handful of ex-muslims and non-muslims who have studied Islam, being part of the audience, and asking some VERY EMBARRASSING questions? Has this ever happened? If not, why not? Any ideas Mr. Spencer? Are you or your colleagues on the case? Gullible non-muslims will take their cue from these taqiyya artists, unfortunately. But I believe it is too late for Islam to be saved.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/islam-uk_uk_5d434b37e4b0acb57fc98d67
No amount of dawa can save Islam now.
Aussie Infidel says
Peter, That’s exactly what I do – go along to the mosque open days and ask awkward questions.
Open days are usually quite safe to attend, as there is usually a police presence, along with many other prominent people. At one event near me a couple of years ago, they had the State Police Commissioner as the guest speaker, and he spoke on how we must all learn to get along with each other. Also there were some local politicians (who didn’t understand the first thing about Islam).
During question time, people were invited to submit questions. My question was how can Australians expect to get along with Muslims when their holy scriptures command them to kill us? Needless to say, the imam didn’t address that one, so when questions were taken from the audience, I asked it out loud so everyone could hear, and quoted Suras 3:151 and 9:5. You could tell that the imam was embarrassed by the question, and he tried to fob it off with the old excuse that those were revelations for their time and place. And that brought similar questions from others. It wasn’t his best day.
If people get the opportunity to attend an ‘open day’, take it and ask some awkward questions. It’s also often a good opportunity to speak to your politicians about the dangers of Islam and Muslim immigration.
Angemon says
Indeed. The appropriate response to anyone claiming muslims also celebrate Jesus is “do you believe him to be the son of God that died in the cross and returned to life three days later?”
Beneath the Veil of Consciousness says
The insinuation that 30 percent of slaves who came to America were Muslims seems a very slick way of implying that Muslims were the victims of Christians all the while taking the focus off the slave trade practices by muslims whose level of brutality and sheer numbers makes the Trans-Atlantic slave trade pale in comparison. These traveling circus shows need to be confronted for what they are- willful deception. An organized data base should be developed and maintained in order to provide informed people the opportunity to crash these parties.
gravenimage says
Yes–occasionally Muslims enslaved Muslims from rival tribes, or Westerners took their own slaves–but both of these were rarities. It seems that Muslims slaves made up a tiny minority of African slaves.
Martel Sobieski says
ALL NON-MUSLIMS ARE KUFFARS. THIS IS SIMPLE 101 ISLAM.
Egypt’s Grand Mufti, Sheikh Ali Gomaa Declares All Christians ‘Infidels’
“A video of Egypt’s Grand Mufti, Sheikh Ali Gomaa (or Gom’a), which began circulating weeks before the massacre, helps elucidate. While holding that Muslims may coexist with Christians (who, as dhimmis, have rights), Gomaa categorized Christians as kuffar — “infidels” — a word that connotes “enemies,” “evil-doers,” and every bad thing to Muslim ears.
After quoting Quran 5:17, “Infidels are those who declare God is the Christ, [Jesus] son of Mary,” he expounded by saying any association between a human and God (in Arabic, shirk) is the greatest sin: “Whoever thinks the Christ is God, or the Son of God, not symbolically — for we are all sons of God — but attributively, has rejected the faith which God requires for salvation,” thereby becoming an infidel.”
Greyhound Fancier says
So the Mohammedans have the same problem with Jesus of Nazareth as did the Pharisees. They likely would have killed Jesus as an infidel who insulted their religion.
Wellington says
There is a great deal in Islam that can and should be objected to as Hugh Fitzgerald in this article makes clear and I would contend that death for apostasy as can be found in the Koran, Sura 4:89, and the Bukhari Hadith, 9.84.57, and as upheld by every major school of Islamic theology to this day, both Sunni and Shiite, itself alone is reason enough to be repulsed by Islam. When you add in all the other rot, like rank hostility to Jews, second-class status (if even this) for non-Muslims wherever Islam dominates and the disallowance of any criticism of Mohammed or the Koran under penalty of death or at least severe punishment, you have in Islam a religion so antithetical to the basic principles of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution that no knowledgeable American can possibly extend to Islam any respect whatsoever. Indeed, contempt and hostility toward it is fully warranted.
Again I aver that you can have freedom or you can have Islam. You can’t possibly have both. And what made America great above all other factors has been freedom and Islam is so constituted that it would ruin freedom in America if given the chance and ruining American freedom would mean the effective destruction of America. This is where I stand on the matter of Islam in my country. It should not be banned, any more than Nazism, anarchism and Marxism should be banned, but like these other belief systems it should never be accorded any respect whatsoever and should be looked upon as a belief system for losers, the confused and the malevolent.
don vito says
“Sharia includes tenets of Islam like… not lying…” she said. When is a lie, not a lie? When a moslems is advancing the cause for islam? When a moslem is talking with nonmoslems? Or, perhaps when moslem lips are moving?
Keys says
“Sharia includes tenets of Islam like… not lying…”
That’s a lie, and your “god”, Allah, is the best of liars.
No one ever knows if he is telling the truth, just like his followers.
Congratulations !
Another heartening tenet of Islam is that Allah hates those who disbelieve.
Most people who ever lived were non-muslim, and most people living today are non-muslim. Allah hates most people he ever created.
How about an Allahu Akbar !
Keys says
Or better yet, why don’t we all bow down on the ground with our asses high and worship this liar and hater, Allah ?
Rubnflo says
I’m waiting for an Ex-muslim to run for political office. There are many intelligent eloquent Ex-muslim muslims and we need them to run for political office. Of course their leaving islam must be kept in the background….at first
CogitoErgoSum says
I wish I could get an answer from a Muslim concerning Quran 9:29. Is there another verse which abrogates this one or, if not, has the requirement to fight the People of the Book to bring them into submission to Islam by either conversion or collection of the Jiizya long since expired? If it has expired, when and where did that happen?
Every time I ask a Muslim about this, I get no answer and/or the subject is changed to something else. (I think the verse still applies.)
CogitoErgoSum says
Per Sahi Bukhari, Muhammad said the Jizya would be collected at least until the return of Jesus. See Volume 3, Book 43, Number 656:
Narrated by Abu Huraira:
Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you as a just ruler, he will break the cross, kill the pigs, and abolish the Jizya tax. Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it (as charitable gifts).
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Imagine if I told a Muslim that I believe the Quran has been corrupted by Muslims and that Muhammad was really a Catholic saint whom I honor because he will one day return to kill any Muslim who refuses to become a Christian? How do you think that would go over?
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
Hi Cog, I have an even more elementary question about Quran 9:29 (“Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.”)
What is this “Last Day”? Last Day of what? This sounds like an all-important term, but where in the Quran is it defined? (Hmmm, Muhammad (cui sit pax) as a Catholic saint? I wonder when his feast day is.)
https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cui_sit_pax
CogitoErgoSum says
Mark, per my interpretation of the Quran the Last Day is Judgment Day. I believe the Quran also calls it the Hour, the Last Hour or the Final Hour. It is the time when this world comes to an end. It’s when the dead will be resurrected from the grave (or even from nothing) and both the living and dead will stand before Allah and Allah will decide who goes to Paradise and who goes to Hell. Actually, Christians also believe this will happen, except that we believe the Judge of all souls will be Jesus.
As for Muhammad being a Catholic saint — with this Pope, who knows? If we could convince him that the Quran is actually an epistle from a nearly forgotten bishop who once lived in the nearly forgotten city of Petra, and this bishop’s sermons to his flock were somehow corrupted when translated into Arabic and he really meant to spread the gospel of Jesus — he could be canonized and his feast day could be celebrated each February 30.
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
Thanks, Cog, for your explanation of the term “Last Day”. Your explanation makes sense, but my question is a little more demanding: I don’t want the interpretation of some Muslim or kafir about what “Last Day” means, but rather the chapter-and-verse citation of what *Allah* says it means. Judging from the way the Quran is written, Allah (cui sit pax Muhammadi) is not a very good expository writer, but he must have defined “Last Day” somewhere in his magnum opus.
Your lost-scripture speculation about Saint Muhammad is inspiring, with his feast day on the last day (ha, “Last Day”) of Black History Month.
CogitoErgoSum says
Jizya is another term used by Allah in the Quran which is not clearly defined. Obviously, Allah left it up to Muhammad to provided the definition of the words in the Quran because Muhammad was the smartest man alive at the time. The big, unusual mole between his shoulder blades proved that — along with, of course, his advice on what to do if a fly lands in your drink (make sure both wings are completely submerged). The man was utterly brilliant and one of a kind — which surely is Allah’s greatest gift to us all. So my advice would be that if there is something in the Quran you don’t understand, check the hadiths and you will probably find Muhammad’s explanation there. (God help us).
gravenimage says
CogitoErgoSum, Sura 9 is the second to last “revealed”–so this abrogates most of the verses of the Qur’an.
CogitoErgoSum says
Yes, I agree. Abrogation is a concept that Muslims themselves came up with to explain various contradictions in the Quran and if a person follows this idea that later verses abrogate earlier verses then verse 9 takes precedence over any and all of the verses “revealed” earlier concerning how to treat Christians, Jews and other “infidels.” However, the current arrangement of the chapters of the Quran (not in chronological order) makes that difficult to see and to understand. In order of revelation Sura 9 would actually be 113 (out of 114).
Crusades Were Right says
Dispelling “myths”…
…or suckering “kafirs”? lol
paul 316 says
allah is a false god, muhammad is the anti-Christ and islam is a grand method of oppression. I don’t care to have a group of people using taqiyah to explain what their ideology is. All I have to do is watch the news and read stories on the ravages of islam , I can discern the truth through watching their conduct…. it ain’t pretty.
PRCS says
In addition to the usual lies and obfuscation–both subtle and overt–those smiling Muslims told their guests, the reporter made an all to common mistake:
“Ramadan is the ninth month in the Muslim calendar, the month that Muhammad was shown the Quran by God.”
It should have read:
Ramadan is the ninth month in the Muslim calendar, the month that Muslims believe Allah revealed Qur’an’s first verses to Muhammad.
Is she merely uninformed, or deceitful?
ntesdorf says
The Open-Mosque Ask-Muslims-Anything Night in Tyler, Texas would be better described as an introductory lecture on the methods of Taqqiya in Islam.
gravenimage says
In Tyler, Texas, Dispelling “Myths” About Islam
……………………
Tyler Texas Taqiyya.
As for Jesus–really, “Isa”–being a “Prophet”, note that these dishonest Muslims do not tell you that his main role in Islam is to slaughter Christians in the last days.
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
The reporter Erin Mansfield, whose charming face is seen at
https://twitter.com/_erinmansfield
is a “cat lady, data freak, and bacon enthusiast.” She reports, “Islam is rooted in the story of Abraham. The religion believes that Abraham was the first prophet of God; that there were several other prophets, including Adam, Noah, Moses, Jesus and others; and that Muhammad was the final messenger of God’s law.”
Okay, got it. So both Abraham and Adam were prophets. Which came first? Well, Adam, being the first human being ever, must have come before everybody else, including Abraham. So how could Abraham be the first prophet? Erin Mansfield, please explain.
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
The reporter Erin Mansfield, whose charming face is seen at
https://twitter.com/_erinmansfield
is a “cat lady, data geek, and bacon enthusiast.” She reports, “Islam is rooted in the story of Abraham. The religion believes that Abraham was the first prophet of God; that there were several other prophets, including Adam, Noah, Moses, Jesus and others; and that Muhammad was the final messenger of God’s law.”
Okay, got it. Both Adam and Abraham were prophets. Adam, being the first human being ever, come before everybody else, including Abraham. So how could Abraham possibly be the “first” prophet if he was preceded by the prophet Adam? Is this one of those ineffable mysteries of Islam? Erin Mansfield, please explain.
Keys says
LOL !
She probably doesn’t know about Islam and bacon either.
Rev. G says
Pretty sure Noah predates Abraham as well.
AP says
Maybe the Preachers at the Southern Baptist Conference, should devise a day to open up all of the Churchs and explain excactly what these Mohemmidens are really up to. Oh that would be tending the flock, well forget it.
Giacomo Latta says
The reason little Mo adapted Christian figures into his own made-up religion was to use well-known figures to give it some undeserved street cred.