Well, this is a relief. Now we can all relax. I’m going bowling. Anybody want to come with?
Also, what kind of progress have these Islamic scholars made in convincing Islamic jihadis that they are misunderstanding their peaceful religion?
Reality:
Muhammad said: “I have been made victorious through terror” (Bukhari 4:52.220).
The Qur’an says: “Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into the hearts of the enemies of Allah and your enemies…” (8:60)
The people responsible for the linking of Islam with terrorism are not “Islamophobes” or any non-Muslims. The people responsible are the Islamic jihadists who kill people and explain and justify their murders by referring to Islamic texts and teachings. Here are just a few of them:
“And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from where they drove you out; persecution is worse than slaughter. But fight them not by the Holy Mosque until they should fight you there; then, if they fight you, kill them — such is the recompense of unbelievers, but if they give over, surely Allah is all-forgiving, all-compassionate. Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is Allah’s; then if they give over, there shall be no enmity save for evildoers.” (Qur’an 2:191-193)
“We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve for what they have associated with Allah of which He had not sent down authority. And their refuge will be the Fire, and wretched is the residence of the wrongdoers.” (Qur’an 3:151)
“They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore do not take friends from among them, until they emigrate in the way of Allah; then, if they turn their backs, seize them and kill them wherever you find them; do not take for yourselves any one of them as friend or helper.” (Qur’an 4:89)
“This is the recompense of those who fight against Allah and His Messenger, and hasten about the earth to do corruption there: they shall be killed, or crucified, or their hands and feet shall be struck off on opposite sides; or they shall be exiled from the land. That is a degradation for them in this world; and in the world to come awaits them a mighty chastisement.” (Qur’an 5:33)
“When your Lord was revealing to the angels, ‘I am with you; so confirm the believers. I shall cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers; so strike the necks, and strike every finger of them!” (Qur’an 8:12)
“Fight them, till there is no persecution and religion is all for Allah; then if they give over, surely Allah sees the things they do.” (Qur’an 8:39)
“Make ready for them whatever force and strings of horses you can, to strike terror into the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others besides them that you know not; Allah knows them. And whatever you spend in the way of Allah shall be repaid you in full; you will not be wronged.” (Qur’an 8:60)
“Then, when the sacred months are over, kill the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they repent, and perform the prayer, and pay the alms, then let them go their way; Allah is All-forgiving, All-compassionate.” (Qur’an 9:5)
“Fight those who believe not in Allah and the Last Day and do not forbid what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden, and do not practice the religion of truth, even if they are of the People of the Book — until they pay the jizya with willing submission and feel themselves subdued.” (Qur’an 9:29)
“Allah has bought from the believers their selves and their possessions against the gift of Paradise; they fight in the way of Allah; they kill, and are killed; that is a promise binding upon Allah in the Torah, and the Gospel, and the Koran; and who fulfils his covenant truer than Allah? So rejoice in the bargain you have made with Him; that is the mighty triumph.” (Qur’an 9:111)
“O believers, fight the unbelievers who are near to you; and let them find in you a harshness; and know that Allah is with the godfearing.” (Qur’an 9:123)
“When you meet the unbelievers, strike their necks, then, when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds; then set them free, either by grace or ransom, till the war lays down its loads. So it shall be; and if Allah had willed, He would have avenged Himself upon them; but that He may try some of you by means of others. And those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will not send their works astray.” (Qur’an 47:4)
Meanwhile, “Dr AbdulHamid Badmas of the University of Ilorin, urged Islamic scholars to engage in constructive criticisms while trying to correct societal ills or personalities, rather than being combative or resort to name-calling.”
That’ll be the day. In many years of discussions and debates with Islamic scholars and spokesmen, I’ve never encountered one who didn’t become combative or resort to name-calling. Not even once. One reason why is explained here.
“Islam doesn’t promote terrorism, say scholars,” by Tunde Oyekola, Punch, August 28, 2019:
Some Islamic scholars from Saudi Arabia and their Nigerian counterparts have debunked insinuations that Islam breeds terrorism.
They urged Muslims to henceforth embark on the propagation of the religion in a peaceful manner.
The scholars, who gathered in Ilorin, Kwara State, on Tuesday to brainstorm on how to bring about peaceful propagation of Islam, said Muslims should work to change the wrong perception of the religion as one being spread through force.
The scholars at the conference, themed, “Correcting the wrongs in society: Its principles and skills,” were of the opinion that some Muslims had wrong perception about the concept of jihad in propagating Islam.
They said jihad was the relocation (Hijrah) of Prophet Muhammad from his birth place of Makkah to Madinah with the sole purpose of giving peace a chance between Islamic faithful and the then unbelievers of Makkah.
This, flight, they claimed, was aimed at promoting peaceful co-existence…
The lead speaker at the conference, Shaykh Ali Abu al-Khayl of the Saudi Arabia Islamic Centre, advised those interested in propagating Islam to do it peacefully and in accordance with the dictates of the Qur’an and traditions of Prophet Muhammad.
While reminding Islamic clerics that “Islam abhors violence in whatever form and guise,” Abu al-Khayl said acting in accordance with the dictates of the Qur’an would ensure peace among Islamic faithful and the adherents of other religions.
In his own submission, the Proprietor of Darul Ikhtab Wa Sunnah, Dr AbdulKadir Solagberu, said the conference was organised to acquaint Islamic scholars with the best ways of how to propagate the religion and enhance peaceful coexistence among people of other faith…
Solagberu also explained that Islam “forbids acts of terrorism in all its ramifications,” urging those who had embraced terrorism as a means of propagating Islam to desist from the ungodly act.
Also speaking, Dr AbdulHamid Badmas of the University of Ilorin, urged Islamic scholars to engage in constructive criticisms while trying to correct societal ills or personalities, rather than being combative or resort to name-calling.
infidel says
What else can be expected from these barbaric creatures who deny all reality even if confronted with solid proof.
My country India is faced with a population explosion and a huge resource crunch. While Hindus are ready for birth control, the animal Muslims, esp their mad leaders, REFUSE POINT BLANK any discussions on pop control. They say that they are not concerned about any resource crunch. It is clear that they are breeding with the SINGULAR INTENTION of becoming a majority and driving out Hindus from their own lands…
Isntlam says
They won’t be happy until they’ve destroyed the world.
Jaladhi says
Of course that is the ultimate aim so that all of us can enter the hooriland!
Halal Bacon says
nope, happiness is haram
Truth Triumps says
It appears, In India Biological Jihad also in full Swing Now.
Isntlam says
Average IQ in Saudi Arabia is eighty-four points.
https://brainstats.com/average-iq-in-saudi-arabia.html
Average IQ in Nigeria is also eighty-four points.
https://brainstats.com/average-iq-in-nigeria.html
Jaladhi says
I didn’t know it was that high!
Halal Bacon says
he forgot the rest of the shithole countries – try somalia
FYI says
At times like this we must ask:WWZNS?
What would zakir naik,the mehical doctor and islamic fount of knowledge, say?
Perusing his recent Tweets..oh alhamdullilah!….what wisdom!
“Train your mind to see good in everything”{Aug 30}
What?Like the immoral murderous life of the “prophet” muhammed:That’s pretty difficult..his 9 year old “wife”,stealing from the Khaybar Jews……?
“prophet muhammed never committed a sin but he always asked for forgiveness….”{Aug 30}
{ABU DAWUD 4390 mass-murdering Jews,raping Aisha….is the concept of what constitutes a sin different in islam to the Judeo-Christian Concept of a sin?It seems so….naik seems to be confusing muhammed with Jesus}
“Quran is a book of fact,not a book of theory”{Aug 22}
So,that day when the MOON WAS SPLIT IN HALF:can we see the proof?
How come k3;67 “Abraham was not a Jew”?Of course he was Jewish.
And who knew the Sun sets in a muddy pool and likes a shower?
Isn’t the koran a “book of fact”?
“If someone throws bricks at you,use them to build a house”{Aug 9}
And if muslim fanatics are firing RPGs at you………..?
“I would rather kill myself than commit suicide”
Dr Zakir Naik
Sounds like you just did;shot yourself in the foot with that one…..didn’t ya?
Jaladhi says
Ha, ha, ha,… “islamic scholars” an oxymoron!! “Debunked insinuations that Islam breeds terrorism” – the usual delusion!
Their definition of terrorism is not the same as ours! Islam is nothing but pure evil and terrorism!
Antiislamicman says
Islam now doing the comedy circle
gravenimage says
This story wasn’t from the British comedy publication Punch, but it might as well have been…
Rarely says
Bad PR. Incorrect translations. Contradictory definitions.
I feel so much safer now.
“Peaceful coexistence” simply means “no one will cut off your head while you are still an infidel but in the process of converting to islam”.
P.S. You’d better pick the correct branch of islam. Hell, they can’t even peacefully coexist or have meaningful discussions on points at issue with each other
Build a wall around the Islamic countries and we’ll deal with the survivor.
Mario Alexis Portella says
This couldn’t be any further away from the truth!!!! Those so-called Saudi and Nigerian Muslim scholars are lying through their teeth. What’s worse is that such deception will be used by terror-linked groups like CAIR to say that Islam is peace, when it is not! Of course, we’re all Islamophobes for saying the contrary.
Terry Gain says
Islam is deceit.
elee says
Still working on my Muslim vocabulary. Was this taqiyya, tawriyah, kitman, or muruna? Ahhh the convenience of having a single Anglo-Saxon monosyllable for all the above: LIES.
James Lincoln says
elee,
I have always personally resented having to achieve a working knowledge of Islam. It has taken valuable time away from other more pleasant endeavors.
Unfortunately, in order to be totally informed about the severe threats to Western civilization, we have no choice.
Angemon says
In other words: “pipe down, you’re making islam look bad”.
henceforth – from this pint on. The implication being that the terrorist acts were, in fact, being done to advance islam.
Is it terrorism if it is sunnah?
Angemon says
“point”, not “pint”
Rarely says
Angemon.
It’s a matter of definition. It’s not “terrorism” to attack the infidel…that’s resistance (or the like). It’s only terrorism if a muslim attacks another muslim … that IS forbidden.
See? islam IS against terrorism. Case closed.
It’s all in the definition.
CRUSADER says
One person’s freedom fighter is another person’s terrorist!
Or is it the other way around?
(It is important to get this phrase correct!)
CRUSADER says
Self-amazed, Rolex wearing, “caliph” Alfred E. “Sugar” BagDaddy
described “terrorism” in this way:
“Terrorism is to refuse humiliation, subjugation, and subordination
(to the kuffar — infidels). Terrorism is for the Muslim to live
as a Muslim… Terrorism is to insist upon your rights and
not give them up.”
(Robert Spencer, p. 182, “The Complete Infidel’s Guide to ISIS”)**
** hey, remember the sarcastic Preppy’s Handbook” from the 1980s?
Well, there needs to be such a one with illustrations and pictures
for eager Dhimmies and young Tjurks and up-and-coming Jihadies….
DHazard says
“They urged Muslims to henceforth embark on the propagation of the religion in a peaceful manner.”
Problem solved.
Peter WF says
What would you expect them to say?
It’s an issue of who CHOOSES to believe them. Their book of “peace” states it is OK to lie to infidels.
James Lincoln says
Why is it so easy to predict what “Islamic scholars” will say?
gravenimage says
Islamic scholars from Saudi Arabia and Nigeria “have debunked insinuations that Islam breeds terrorism”
……………….
Bald-faced Taqiyya.
Lydia Church says
That is impossible to debunk!
Steve Meikle says
When kaffirs say Islam is peaceful i call them fools.
When Muslims say Islam is peaceful i cry TAQIYYA and refuse to believe them for they ARE liars.
I do thank Robert Spencer first among others who taught me this , to throw off my own leftist liberal blinders and see this damnable cult for what it is
Truth Triumps says
Islam has 2 Phases. 1, Submissive. When Muslim Strength is Not Enough to Fight and Conquer and Subjugate others (Labeled Inferior creatures). Not Only Peaceful, but also Highly Cooperative and Complacent.
2. Subjugative. When Muslim Strength is Enough to Fight and Conquer and Subjugate the Labeled Inferior Creatures. Not Only Terrorism but also all sort of Barbarian Torture also will be Unleashed.
Lt Mason says
They spruced up Mohammad’s Fairy Tale and rebranded it as the Islamic Long March to a peaceful world domination.
Walter Sieruk says
Don’t let them fool you. For the Islamic kingdom of Saudi Arabia in no friend of any Western nation, Saudi Arabia is best defined as a kingdom of Islamic hate
As one Arab scholar who had lived in a Middle Eastern country, for many years revealed “Saudi madrassa notably teach hatred and condemnation of the West and non-Muslims” and “The Saudi Government also provides free textbooks to Islamic schools throughout the world . many of the Saudi- Issued textbook’s contain wording that encourages hatred and intolerance for non-Muslims.” [1]
Saudi Arabia in many ways is no better than Iran.
[1] THEY MUST BE STOPPED by Brigitte Gabriel, page 106
Walter Sieruk says
The Islamic kingdom of Saudi Arabia has not and will not spare any of its vast oil wealth as to use its financial resources to fund and promote the advancement of Islam by and through the jihad. By this it means both the stealth jihad and even the subtle support violent jihad.
As explained, for example in the book HOW ISLAM PLANS TO CHANGE THE WORLD by William Wagner. For on pages 109, 110. The reader is informed that “The Wall Street journal on April 15, 2003 published an article titled ‘In law Seminars, A Saudi Group Spreads Extremism.’ The article began by saying ‘In late
February more than 300 young men from across Europe gathered for a weekend seminar on Islamic Law put on by Al-Waqf al-Islaami Foundation.’ The article went on to explain that the most famous graduates from the seminar were half a dozen members of the group of young men from Hamburg, Germany, who plotted the September 11, attacks. The language of the was Dutch, but ‘the message was imported from Saudi Arabia, via Saudi books and lecturers who taught a strict orthodox interpretation of Islam.’ “
Further on the very same page of 110 the information is given that “TIME MAGAZINE , in an article on Saudi Arabia: Inside the Kingdom,’ stated ‘Apart from channeling money to foundations that have assisted terrorist groups, Saudis have for years supported institutions abroad the propagate Wahhabism.’”
In addition to all this, in the book of the title of THE HISTORY OF JIHAD FROM MUHAMMAD TO ISIS, by Robert Spencer on pages 333 through 337.Mr Spencer provides valid information of the subject of “ The Saudi involvement in September 11.”
So with that Islamic regime of Saudi Arabia and its oil money support the different type of the jihad, both stealth and the violent kind, with its Islamic agenda advancement and spread , influence and infiltration of the Western nations ,this kingdom of Saudi Arabia is no friend at all of America or any other country of the West.
Walter Sieruk says
Saudi Arabia is not an innocent nation when it comes to the subject of promoting Islamic terrorism by setting up Muslim brainwashing centers in which impressionable Muslim youth are thoroughly indoctrinated into the ways of Quran based jihad violence with much killing of people who are not Muslim for the advancement of Islam. As the Quran instructs, for example 2:191., 5:33. 9:5,111,112,123 47:4,89.
One scholar, Brigitte Gabriel, who is an from the Middle East had in her book with the title of THEY MUST BE STOPPED informs her readers on page 114. “Saudi Arabia is one of the leading financial contributors to Islamic terrorism worldwide. Part of that contribution is made by funding madrasas throughout the world and the brainwashing of Muslim children with intolerant teaching towards anything non-Muslim.”
Likewise, a former Muslim, Ibn Warraq, in his book which has the title of THE ISLAM IN ISLAMIC TERRORISM on page 353 reveals that “Saudi Arabia has spent millions on Islamic propaganda and on building madrassas.”
Further on the subject that there are Muslim mind control and mind programming places where Muslim males are thoroughly indoctrinated into the strong but blind and unquestioning faith in Koran with all non-watered down; hard core Islam with its militant jihad. Those places, “schools,” are called madrasas. In those Islamic mind programming centers young Muslim male are ingrain in the mindset Koranic dogma of the use of violence and killing for the advancement of Islam. As the Koran instructs. As in, for example, in 2:191. 9:5, 123. 47:4. Many of those who of such center are so much damaged that they are literally dangerous to self and others.
As seen many times in jihad suicide, homicide bombing/attacks. For the Koran instructs in 9:111. “The believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, they kill and are killed.” Furthermore, those mind programming places also ingrain the outlandish absurd Koranic doctrine of a sex-filled paradise with many virgins, houris, in it for the Muslim male who dies fighting for the cause of Islam in the jihad. Such a strange doctrine of a houris filled- place in found in the Koran in 44:54. 55:56. 78:31.
Moreover, such Islamic mind programming centers are further explained about by the scholar Don Richardson in his book SECRETS OF THE KORAN which on pages 69,70. Informs the reader that “The world needs to be warned. At least forty million Muslim youth in the Muslim worlds’ religious schools, called madrasa, are avidly memorizing the entire Koran … These schools become breeding grounds for potential terrorists. When male students, isolated from family and friends in madrasa, reach puberty and their hormones are active, there are no girls to date. Instead, Muslim clerics easily shift to focusing the male student’s attention on Koranic verse that promises sex in heaven with dark-eyed houris. Students can only fantasize about martyrdom followed by the sexual release Muhammad promised. This is an unspeakably cruel brainwashing technique , and the Koran is its perfect guidebook.”
In short, Saudi Arabia is very guilty of promoting Islamic terrorism
Eric Jones says
This reminds me of the conference that John Dillinger and Bonny and Clyde had to discuss how not to rob banks and peacefully interact with law enforcement.
Eric
jca reid. says
Taqiyya in full flow. How can you tell if a Muslim is lying? Answer = their lips are moving.