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UK counterterror top dog says jihad caused by lack of social mobility and Muslims shouldn’t be forced to assimilate

Aug 9, 2019 2:00 pm By Robert Spencer

“Don’t forget that 70%-80% of the people we arrest, disrupt or commit an attack here, are born and raised here. Born or at least raised here. That has got to tell us something about our society.”

No, it doesn’t. It tells you something about Islamic doctrine, and the contempt that is inculcated in all too many Muslims for non-Muslim society and law. But like so many other Western officials, Neil Basu assumes that if Muslims wage jihad and commit other crimes, it must somehow be our fault.

“He also said British Muslims should not be forced to ‘assimilate’, adding: ‘Assimilation implies that I have to hide myself in order to get on. We should not be a society that accepts that.'”

Good luck with that, Basu. You will ultimately find that not requiring immigrants to adopt British values will lead to the break-up of that society into warring groups, but by then it will be far too late for you.

“Counter-terror chief Neil Basu says homegrown terrorism is caused by a lack of social mobility and British Muslims should not be forced to ‘assimilate,'” by Amelia Clarke and Rory Tingle, Mailonline, August 6, 2019:

Britain’s head of counter-terror policing has said homegrown terrorism is fuelled by a lack of social mobility and inclusion.

Neil Basu, the Metropolitan police assistant commissioner, said better education and opportunities for young people would do more to fight terrorism than ‘the policing and state security apparatus put together’.

He also said British Muslims should not be forced to ‘assimilate’, adding: ‘Assimilation implies that I have to hide myself in order to get on. We should not be a society that accepts that.’

Mr Basu told The Guardian: ‘Nothing I am saying remotely excuses these heinous acts of criminal violence.

‘But the deeper causes need examining. My teams are world class at stopping attacks and locking terrorists up. But we need to stop the flow of recruits into terrorism.

‘Don’t forget that 70%-80% of the people we arrest, disrupt or commit an attack here, are born and raised here. Born or at least raised here. That has got to tell us something about our society….

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  1. CRUSADER says

    Aug 9, 2019 at 2:19 pm

    Islam is a mismatch for Western society. It belongs to an arid existence withering in the Arab desert.

    • Terry Gain says

      Aug 9, 2019 at 3:07 pm

      Islam doesn’t belong anywhere. It is evil and irrational.

      • CRUSADER says

        Aug 9, 2019 at 6:58 pm

        Yes, indeed, TG, that of course is the ideal!

        But then, we would be nearly in a perfect world
        if that were the case, as the Left wouldn’t have brutal soldiers
        to do its work … and we CounterJihad-ers would not find the challenge
        for our lives as Islam presents to us!

        The Good Fight presses onward!

    • Rufolino says

      Aug 10, 2019 at 4:35 am

      This buffoon shamelessly blames the British for the crimes inflicted on them by Islam.

      His incompetence is outrageous. And he is a counter-terror expert ??? Don’t make me laugh. He has the face you expect on a clown.

      • David says

        Aug 10, 2019 at 5:50 pm

        What is his ethnicity?

        “Don’t forget that 70%-80% of the people we arrest, disrupt or commit an attack here, are born and raised here. Born or at least raised here. That has got to tell us something about our society.” Yes, it says our society is allowing the breeding of muslims who are indoctrinated by imams in the thousands of un-monitored mosques
        Islam is the cause of islamic terrorism, plain and simple. The assistant commissioner needs to know this.

  2. Michael Copeland says

    Aug 9, 2019 at 2:19 pm

    ……caused by a lack of social mobility ?
    What claptrap.
    Yet again those at the top dispense inaccurate judgments, and prolong the ignorance of the people.

    Are we to think that the Islamic Jihad against India and Afghanistan, with its millions of killed over centuries, was caused by lack of social mobility?

    This pronouncement deserves only scorn.

    • Terry Gain says

      Aug 9, 2019 at 3:09 pm

      Yes. Basu is as moronic as Pope Francis.

      • CRUSADER says

        Aug 9, 2019 at 7:03 pm

        This is a bio story on Basu:

        =====================

        During his 26-year career, Assistant Commissioner Neil Basu, has quietly risen through the ranks at Scotland Yard, from a beat bobby on the streets of Battersea, to the head of counter-terrorism, charged with keeping the country safe from attack.

        Despite being in charge of some of the Metropolitan Police’s most significant cases in recent years, the 50-year-old has managed to maintain a relatively low profile and avoid any major controversy – until perhaps now.

        Unlike many senior Scotland Yard figures he has not sought to use the press and media to boost his career, only rarely giving interviews.

        In 2011 he was in charge of Operation Weeting – the phone hacking investigation – and he also led Operation Elveden – the follow up probe into allegations of corruption in the media.

        While Operation Weeting resulted in the jailing of Andy Coulson, the former News of the World editor and David Cameron’s official spokesman, Operation Elveden was more controversial.

        The £15 million probe resulted in the arrests of scores of journalists, but of the 34 who were tried, not a single one was successfully convicted and the fallout from the investigation soured relations between Fleet Street and Scotland Yard.

        The son of a doctor from Calcutta and a nurse from Wales, Mr Basu enjoyed a comfortable middle class upbringing in Stafford.

        But as a mixed race child growing up in the 1970s, he was often the target of racism, something that he admitted helped inform his approach to policing.

        After graduating from Nottingham University with a degree in economics, he landed his first job on a management training scheme with Barclays Bank.

        He also spent a spell as a salesman for the Mars confectionery company, but despite his father’s hope that he would become a lawyer or a banker, he was determined to pursue a career in the police.

        His father had worked as a police surgeon for almost 40-years, so it was a world he was familiar with.

        After joining the Met aged 24 in 1992 he spent four years on the beat in Battersea before being promoted to Sergeant in the tough Brixton area.

        He transferred to the CID as a sergeant in 1997 and two years later made the rank of inspector.

        Earmarked for fast track promotion, Mr Basu spent three years tackling Met corruption as part of the professional standards unit.

        In 2003 he was promoted to Detective Chief Inspector, working as a senior investigating officer in the homicide unit for three years.

        Promotion to Detective Superintendent, with responsibility for serious and organised crime, followed, before he was appointed staff officer to Sir Paul Stephenson – the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police.

        Further promotion followed and he was elevated to Borough Commander fist in charge of Brent and then later south London.

        Between 2013 and 2014 Mr Basu was the commander in charge of armed policing, but has never trained as a firearms officer himself.

        Assistant Commissioner Neil Basu has responsibility for counter terrorism policing across the UK
        In fact in an interview published earlier this year he said he had never wanted to carry a gun.

        “Strangely enough, had policing been a fully armed profession in this country, I would never have become a police officer,” he explained.

        After running armed policing in capital, Mr Basu took on responsibility for organised crime and gangs, before being appointed Deputy Assistant Commissioner in 2015.

        He worked closely with Sir Mark Rowley, the previous head of counter terrorism, at a time when London was the UK was subjected to five terror attacks in the space of just a few months.

        When Sir Mark retired in March last year, Mr Basu, took on the role that many regard as the toughest job in British policing.

        One of his first jobs was to deal with the response to the Novichok poisonings in Salisbury and his team successfully identified the two Russian suspects believed to be responsible.

        He works closely with Andrew Parker, the head of MI5, and as well as being in charge of counter terrorism policing for the whole of the UK, also has responsibilty for a range of other subjects, including Official Secrets Act offences, the investigation of war crimes, the protection of VIPs, royals, embassies, parliament and aviation policing.

        • Kerry Wade says

          Aug 11, 2019 at 7:10 am

          Obviously this twerp is uninformed, unqualified and unstable to be in his present position. Bet the Muslims are grinning with pleasure at this utter fools statement

  3. Jay says

    Aug 9, 2019 at 2:24 pm

    England is lost! Bash should be fired immediately! How on earth did he get this job in the first place??
    How scary for the English citizens that Basu is on the side of the criminal and illegal immigrant enemy!
    Pm Churchill is not resting easy today!
    God save the queen!
    God save England!

  4. smooth lee says

    Aug 9, 2019 at 2:47 pm

    “Muslims shouldn’t be forced to assimilate”

    Instead, everyone else, that would be us non-believers, should culturally adapt to, better yet, convert to, Islam(ism). Or else! Problem solved; you can keep your head . . . on your torso.

    • Terry Gain says

      Aug 9, 2019 at 3:13 pm

      Muslims shouldn’t be forced to assimilate. Indeed, how do you force them to do anything in countries that are free. Muslims need simply be excluded because they are adherents of a conquest ideology.

  5. Blurb1000 says

    Aug 9, 2019 at 3:03 pm

    Check out this. In Norways big Oslo paper Aftenposten they are writing that Robert Spencer is a fascist and the founder of The Alt Right Movement in USA.

    Fascisten Robert Spencer, som grunnla alt-right-bevegelsen i USA, beskriver i dag Sverige som «mest alt-right i Europa» og samarbeider tett med svenske forbundsfeller. Dette bakteppet er nødvendig for å forstå svensk debattkultur på 2000-tallet.

    The Koran is more truthful than this!

    • Blurb1000 says

      Aug 9, 2019 at 3:05 pm

      In plain english:
      Fascist Robert Spencer, who founded the All-Right movement in the United States, today describes Sweden as “the most all-right in Europe” and works closely with Swedish allies. This backdrop is necessary to understand Swedish debate culture in the 2000s.

      • Michael Copeland says

        Aug 9, 2019 at 3:07 pm

        Evidently an elementary error for Richard Spencer.
        The error has been made before.

        • CRUSADER says

          Aug 9, 2019 at 6:53 pm

          You CAN get to our Spencer via a frenzied patchwork of a few ridiculous degrees of separation such as:

          Richard Spencer was at Duke with Stephen Miller … and later on …Stephen Miller was speaking at a recent YAF event as did Robert Spencer…

          — but that’s about all the connecting possible !

          + + + God Bless + + +
          Our Robert Spencer !

      • Blurb1000 says

        Aug 9, 2019 at 3:09 pm

        I’m so glad the toilet paper industry come up with so much more comfortable quality paper than the “Newspaper” did If not I would broken may …

      • CRUSADER says

        Aug 9, 2019 at 7:07 pm

        How could it be accurately said that …

        Sweden is “the most all-right in Europe”

        ???

        • CRUSADER says

          Aug 9, 2019 at 7:09 pm

          All – Right
          Or
          Alt – Right?

          Hey, how about GALT – Right !!

          Right-on!!!

      • gravenimage says

        Aug 12, 2019 at 10:36 pm

        Blurb1000, thank you for this. This story is now covered at Jihad Watch here:

        “The New York Times, Aftenposten, Robert Spencer, Richard Spencer, and journalistic standards in 2019”

        https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/08/robert-spencer-richard-spencer-and-journalistic-standards-in-2019

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 10, 2019 at 7:58 pm

      They are confusing Robert Spencer with neo-Nazi Richard Spencer–probably deliberately.

  6. Barbara says

    Aug 9, 2019 at 3:32 pm

    Is Mr Neil Basu who is identified as “Asian” a Muslim? IF so, he should know that it is unlawful for Muslim’s to assimilate according to Sharia Law!
    Also, Mr Basu was given plenty of opportunity to get educated and become a counter-terrorism Officer in the UK – a Christian country!

    • Cold Cream 'n' Roses says

      Aug 9, 2019 at 4:12 pm

      “Asian” is a code word for Muslims from South Asia

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 10, 2019 at 8:05 pm

      My understanding is that his father is Indian Hindu, his mother Welsh Christian.

  7. John says

    Aug 9, 2019 at 4:03 pm

    Well, if they don’t assimilate they will never attain “social mobility”..Is this guy stupid, or what?

  8. Angemon says

    Aug 9, 2019 at 4:43 pm

    Britain’s head of counter-terror policing has said homegrown terrorism is fuelled by a lack of social mobility and inclusion.

    Neil Basu, the Metropolitan police assistant commissioner, said better education and opportunities for young people would do more to fight terrorism than ‘the policing and state security apparatus put together’.

    Yes, that is exactly what the perpetrators of jihad attacks on British soil say “I’m doing this because I had no social mobility and I felt excluded”… /sarc. off

  9. James Lincoln says

    Aug 9, 2019 at 5:01 pm

    Neil Basu is tragically confusing multiethnicity with multiculturalism.

    The culture of the host country should ALWAYS take precedence over cultural influences that are brought in from outside the host country.

    Multi-ethnicity with some “benign” cultural influences can add richness to a host country. Art, dance, cuisine, etc., influences can add this richness. But this must result in a melting pot – and the culture of the host country ALWAYS takes precedence…

  10. CRUSADER says

    Aug 9, 2019 at 6:45 pm

    UK needs to discover 2nd Amendment as a right to protecting life !

    Black Guns Matter founder Maj Toure on Fox Nation:

    Gun-free zones ‘do not work’ | Fox News

    In Fox Nation’s latest episode of “The Liberty File,” Judge Andrew Napolitano sat down with Black Guns Matter founder Maj Toure, and former NYC Police Commissioner Bernie Kerik to discuss gun violence and the Second Amendment….

  11. Agostino Armo Pellegrini says

    Aug 9, 2019 at 6:51 pm

    ‘Assimilation implies that I have to hide myself in order to get on. We should not be a society that accepts that.’

    Neil Basu wants to portray muslims as victims who are imposed upon to hide their own nature and that “We should not be a society that accepts that.” Superficially that makes sense, we want to be a free society where people are free to be themselves, but there are obvious limits in any free society. For example, if you have good cause to believe your culture and laws and safety are under threat by a certain demographic, it would be wholly unreasonable to put that in the category of individual freedom. The survival of one’s nation is not the same as dying your hair purple or wearing jeans with holes in the knees, and that’s the level Basu is trying to put this thing. In reality this is about FGM and terrorism and murder for allah, and mass rape, and antisemitism, and deadly homophobia, and conquering enclaves, and sharia courts that undermine native law, to name a few concerns. I’m not asking muslims to “hide” themselves, I’m asking them to have an attitude of tolerance and respect for our laws, our people, and our freedoms. Don’t try to undermine our laws with your sharia courts, and don’t expect us to hide our dissatisfaction with the destruction of everything we hold dear. This ain’t about singin’ in the shower or going bare foot in the park, Basu, it’s about our safety and well being as a free nation. Stop shilling for the enemy, traitor.

  12. brane pilot says

    Aug 9, 2019 at 7:20 pm

    White people in Western countries today are where Jews were in 1920’s Germany.
    A couple decades to go, but the end game will be similar.
    Just waiting for demographics to do its work.
    No shortage of collaborators, as evidenced by politicians of all persuasions scapegoating white people for the problems of all other racial groups.
    Prepare-in-place accordingly.
    There is nowhere to run to.

    • CRUSADER says

      Aug 10, 2019 at 12:20 am

      brand pilot probably bought a ticket to see that deplorable movie “The Hunt” !

    • tgusa says

      Aug 10, 2019 at 1:29 am

      “White people in Western countries today are where Jews were in 1920’s Germany.”

      No, we are much much meaner once we get going.

      Ask anybody.

  13. CRUSADER says

    Aug 10, 2019 at 12:11 am

    Police could use help in residential communities and commercial areas with the concept of COP :

    Civilian Observation Patrolling —

    =======================

    Actor and singer Robert Davi joined Neil Cavuto on Fox Business Network to discuss a unique idea he had following the 9/11 attacks that he believes should be brought up once more.

    Inspired by the heroic actions of the passengers aboard hijacked Flight 93, which crashed in Somerset County, Pa., on September 11, 2001, “I started to think, why don’t we have ‘Civilian Patrol 93’?” Davi said.

    Davi breached the topic in response to the series of terror attacks in the United States in recent times, including San Bernardino, Orlando, Saint Cloud, Minn., as well as the recent bombings in Seaside Park, N.J. and New York City.

    “Why don’t [civilians] go into [and patrol] these neighborhoods where trouble may be brewing?” the oft Frank Sinatra tribute singer said.

    Davi, known for his roles in ‘The Goonies’ and James Bond’s ‘License to Kill’, said he would institute a hotline, and forge relationships between Civilian Patrol 93 and local and federal law enforcement.

    (He said he was able to get an audience with former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge, then the nation’s first Homeland Security secretary, to breach the topic with him, and the Bush administration. “[The] reaction was deafening silence,” Davi said, noting that Ridge and Bush likely thought the idea would be seen as racial profiling.)

    Davi talked about how he and other Italian-Americans have been profiled as suspected mafia members.

    “’See Something Say Something’ is as dead as ‘Just Say No To Drugs’,” Davi said of the government’s current prevention initiatives.

    “All [the patrols would be] is a conduit…to local law enforcement,” he said.

  14. tgusa says

    Aug 10, 2019 at 12:30 am

    He looks exhausted. Not good. Must be hard out there and his ignorance is only making it harder.

    Too much to do, I guess.

  15. andrew mckendrick says

    Aug 10, 2019 at 4:00 am

    Wonder how many Common Purpose courses he has been on ?

  16. observer says

    Aug 10, 2019 at 8:01 am

    Oh dear…
    It occurs to me that the +UK counterterror top dog+ might be a jihadist who has infiltrated UK Counterterror. Otherwise, how
    does one explain someone of ostensibly appropriately high intelligence, as must be required for folk of this calibre (who are there to combat terrorism !).
    Perhaps he’s a dhimmi counterterror lap dog ?
    I’m sure that in the world in which we find ourselves, this is not beyond the realm of possibility…

  17. Aussie Infidel says

    Aug 10, 2019 at 8:43 am

    Assistant Commissioner Neil Basu says, “the deeper causes need examining.” They certainly do, but Basu needs to dig a little deeper than he has so far. Has this high ranking policeman ever read the Quran? How would he interpret all those verses (over a hundred – 2:190-193, 2:216, 3:157-158, 4:74-76, 4:89-95, 8:12, 8:24, 8:39, 8:60, 9:5, to name just some) calling on Muslims to wage jihad or holy war against non-Muslims?

    According to the Sharia jihad is warfare “to establish the religion.” (Reliance of the Traveller o9.0-9.8). Or does Basu believe some whitewashed version of Islam from his friendly local imam? And that jihadists are just a few militant individuals who practise some perverted version of Islam?

    Wake up Mr Basu! You’ve been conned! Or are you trying to con us? The problem is ISLAM – ie ordinary, everyday, orthodox Islam – as it is written in the Quran and the other Islamic holy scriptures. Read them for yourself! If you don’t have a Quran, there’s one available on line at https://quran.com/.

    Islam is a criminal ideology which has no place in a civilised community. And the sooner people like Neil Basu understand that, the better it will be for everyone.

  18. Giacomo Latta says

    Aug 10, 2019 at 10:30 am

    ”homegrown terrorism is caused by lack of social mobility and British Muslims should not be forced to assimilate”
    So Muslims should be allowed to have their madrassas where they learn how to end lives not to prolong them then expect to have at least a quota of doctors in hospitals? I think you must have accidentally hit yourself in the head while you were on one your fun white-head-bashing trips.

  19. Ren says

    Aug 10, 2019 at 12:11 pm

    UK counterterror top dog: “…Muslims shouldn’t be forced to assimilate”.

    Then the UK is forced to assimilate to islam.

  20. mortimer says

    Aug 10, 2019 at 12:59 pm

    Did Neil Basu assimilate to get along with others and rise to his present position? He did.

    Did Neil Basu go undercover and ‘hide’ his true identity as a detective in order to get the evidence? He most certainly did.

    Muslims are all hiding the true meaning, motive and method of their jihad against us … or they have left Islam.

    A Muslim who assimilates completely and is completely honest with kafirs is an ex-Muslim according to the Koran and Islamic teachings.

  21. gravenimage says

    Aug 10, 2019 at 7:56 pm

    UK counterterror top dog says jihad caused by lack of social mobility and Muslims shouldn’t be forced to assimilate

    He also said British Muslims should not be forced to ‘assimilate’, adding: ‘Assimilation implies that I have to hide myself in order to get on. We should not be a society that accepts that.’
    ……………………

    Right–why should Muslims have to hide their contempt and murderous hatred for Infidels? Why should they have to stop raping children and slaughtering Infidels?

    Neil Basu is of Indian heritage, and should understand what Muslims are doing there.

  22. jca reid says

    Aug 12, 2019 at 8:36 am

    This Basu is a PC idiot. He, as a Hindu, should know the suffering Hindus suffered under Muslim Rule in the Indian sub-Continent. If it wasn’t for the East India Company making alliances with various non-Muslim Rulers to take them on…….. They don’t want to integrate but they’re happy to take the Welfare Benefits. Muslim IQ’s on average are 80. That is below sub -normal. So, we have an intelligent Muslim who, say scores 120. Then to balance that up you find one who scores 40!! In normal societies people like that are NOT allowed out. Pack ’em ALL off back to whence they came.

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