French authorities have already apparently dismissed out of hand the possibility that this was a jihad terror attack: “There was no indication from the authorities that it was a terror attack….Lyon Mayor Gerard Collomb, the former French interior minister, told reporters: ‘For now, we do not know anything about the motive.'”
Here is a possible motive. The Islamic State issued this call in September 2014:
So O muwahhid, do not let this battle pass you by wherever you may be. You must strike the soldiers, patrons, and troops of the tawaghit. Strike their police, security, and intelligence members, as well as their treacherous agents. Destroy their beds. Embitter their lives for them and busy them with themselves. If you can kill a disbelieving American or European — especially the spiteful and filthy French — or an Australian, or a Canadian, or any other disbeliever from the disbelievers waging war, including the citizens of the countries that entered into a coalition against the Islamic State, then rely upon Allah, and kill him in any manner or way however it may be….If you are not able to find an IED or a bullet, then single out the disbelieving American, Frenchman, or any of their allies. Smash his head with a rock, or slaughter him with a knife, or run him over with your car, or throw him down from a high place, or choke him, or poison him….
“Lyon knife attack: ‘Afghan asylum seeker’ kills one in metro station rampage,” by Chris Kitching, Mirror, August 31, 2019 (thanks to David):
An Afghan asylum seeker is accused of killing a 19-year-old man and wounding at least nine people in a knife rampage in France.
Witnesses said a man armed with a knife and barbecue fork randomly attacked people at a bus stop in Villeurbanne, a suburb of Lyon.
A second man at the scene was carrying a kitchen spit, but his role in the incident was unclear after it was initially reported he may have been a suspect who fled.
Footage posted online shows hero witnesses confronting and detaining the knifeman at Laurent-Bonnevay station.
One video shows the man tossing the knife and fork to the floor and surrendering as he is surrounded by a mob.
Bus drivers and witnesses chased the knife-wielding suspect as he ran into the metro station and then cornered him at an outdoor lift after the attack unfolded just before 4.30pm local time on Saturday, local media reported.
The suspect is an Afghan asylum seeker who was not known to the police or intelligence services, BFM TV reported.
The knifeman claimed to be from Afghanistan as he was confronted by witnesses, including four bus drivers, after the attack, Le Progres reported.
There was no indication from the authorities that it was a terror attack….
A police helicopter was in the air looking for a second man reported as a possible suspect.
A possible motive for the attack was not known.
Lyon Mayor Gerard Collomb, the former French interior minister, told reporters: “For now, we do not know anything about the motive.
“What is certain is that it was not a fight since it was someone who attacked passengers waiting for a bus.”…
Angemon says
Let me guess: unless they can find direct ties with a terrorist group it’s not considered a terrorist attack…
mortimer says
Do we need a terror group issuing orders for it to be terrorism? No! Mohammed said so.
Mohammed in the hadiths praised VIGILANTE JIHADISTS who acted against the kafirs without being commanded by him to do so.
The unnamed “Afghan asylum seeker” was a VIGILANTE JIHADIST.
Rufolino says
If France continues to maintain an attitude of denial, it will facilitate its own destruction.
joanofark06 says
Unfortunately…Coming Soon!
Roger Woodhouse says
Very few ,if any believe the authorities versions of these attacks.Those who do are also ‘in denial’While these ‘murders’ only affect a few people the masses just shrug their shoulders and carry on with life.The only time things will really change will be when a senior politician is personally affected by these attrocities.Plus the fact that the media ignores these incidents now.Keeping the public in ignorance is the task of the MSM now.Omission of ‘news’ is the propagandists tool now particularly the BBC.
mgoldberg says
Just ask the fellow… “what is jihad’?? he will tell you everything you want to know
joanofark06 says
Or ask him to quote one verse from the koran…he’ll spit out 10 to 20!! There’s your terrorism!
somehistory says
Just reading the skimpiest report earlier on Reuters, I guessed it was jihad. Wonder how long before he is said to have mental problems.
If they find the second guy, will they then conclude it is terror?
gravenimage says
Authorities have already said that he has “made confused remarks to investigators”, so this is an implication that this Jihadist has the by now ubiquitous “mental problems”.
somehistory says
Yes, I saw that on the ‘updated’ info on the other thread. It didn’t take long, did it?
gravenimage says
It never does, Somehistory. This would be funny if it were not so awful.
Vicky says
His words were confusing to investigators because they never read the Qur’an.
joanofark06 says
So true!
CRUSADER says
Two Words:
KRAV
MAGA
James Lincoln says
Again, a country in Western Europe that has a Muslim migration problem is still trying so hard to NOT connect the dots.
Cases like this should be presumed to be Islamic jihadist attacks until proven otherwise.
max brenner says
They are searching for a motive. Hmm Have they tried Al Capone’s Vault?. I heard there were many lost motives there waiting to be found. Perhaps the motive was aboard the missing Malaysian plane, Pity. It will never be found.
mortimer says
FRANCE SAYS: “STRIKING THE NECK HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM !”
… except it’s in the Koran … oops
Koran 8:12 Sahih International: [Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, “I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip.”
Koran 47:4: “Sahih International: So when you meet those who disbelieve [in battle], strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them, then secure their bonds, and either [confer] favor afterwards or ransom [them] until the war lays down its burdens. That [is the command]. And if Allah had willed, He could have taken vengeance upon them [Himself], but [He ordered armed struggle] to test some of you by means of others. And those who are killed in the cause of Allah – never will He waste their deeds.
To which Islamic Scholars say:
Koran 8:12 “Strike terror in the hearts of the unbelievers.”
(Allah will cast fear, disgrace and humiliation over those who defied his command and denied Muhammad — ibn Kathir); smite the unbelievers at their necks (i.e., behead the unbelievers—ibn Kathir) and cut off their fingers (cut off their heads, limbs, hands and feet—ibn Kathir. Terror means fear of Muhammad and his companions—ibn Abbas).
ISLAM IS THE ONLY RELIGION THAT MANDATES HAND, FINGER AND HEAD CHOPPING.
joanofark06 says
Right!
And then our bibles say THIS!
….yea, the time cometh that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor Me. John 16:2-3
By peace he shall destroy many. Daniel 8:25
“The alien who is among you shall rise higher and higher and you shall come down lower and lower” Deuteronomy 28:43
And there’s more….but does any of these sound like it’s talking about muslims or islam? What about THIS one?
“Come, let us wipe away the nation of Israel. Let’s destroy the memory of its existence” Psalm 83:4
tgusa says
The cops are searching for a motive but if they do find it they will immediately cover it with a pillow.
joanofark06 says
Lol…
JM says
Slow learners of the West search for a motive while the Islamists laugh at us…
John J says
A Jihadi sticking a big sharp knife in people, killing 1 poor soul, wounding many is not terror?
owensgate says
It’s the KORAN, dummies!
joanofark06 says
Maybe we should give them the book…The Koran For Dummies?
Jack Holan says
Robert, from the sound of it when in France the Terrorist must anounce”this is a ‘Terrorist’ attack. Even then if if he’s a lone Terrorist, he is insane.
Spiro says
Oh dear what could possible be the motive ??????? For killing kifar
Could it be his war lords instruction book
And of course it’s mental illness because the west can’t grasp the truth of Islam
Peter WF says
“Cops search for motive”? They obviously don’t have enough to do.
jca reid says
Even Inspector Clouseau could come up with a motive on this one! Bring back the guillotine for him & lubricate the blade with pig fat!