There may be any number of reasons why people don’t want halal meat. They may object to halal slaughter for humanitarian reasons. They may consider it to be meat sacrificed to idols, as discussed in the New Testament. They may object to the fact that many halal certification organizations have links to jihad terror groups. But we are not allowed to have any such concerns, either in the U.S. or in Australia. Several years ago, Pamela Geller and I met with USDA officials and presented a petition to them asking that they require that halal products be labeled as such, for the benefit of people who objected to halal food for humanitarian, religious, or other reasons. Ultimately the USDA never got back to us and ignored our petition.
“Aussie butchers’ shop “Non Halal Certified” sign banned by Ad body for discrimination & vilification of Muslims,” Michael Smith News, September 9, 2019 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
Adelaide’s Valley Butchers looks like a pretty flash meat operation!
Until a couple of weeks ago, the shop proudly displayed a decal in the window featuring their business name and the words “NON HALAL CERTIFIED” with a picture of an emu and kangaroos.
And that simple statement, that their meat is “non-Halal certified” has brought the butchers before the Advertising Standards body which has formally found:
The majority of the Panel considered that as there was no such thing as a certification of meat products as ‘non Halal’, the phrase used on the window amounted to a statement that was ridiculing of halal certification and that this was offensive and demeaning to people who are of that faith or are of Muslim ethnicity…
The majority of the Panel considered that the sign’s wording and images amounted to a depiction that was inciting hatred or contempt of a group of people based on their religious practices or Muslim origin.
mortimer says
It is reasonable that people should have a choice and that the choice not be made for them. That would be totalitarian.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Believe it or not mortimer, if you are ordering beef at your local chain restaurant then you are probably eating halal beef.
Robert Spencer writes, “[S]everal years ago, Pamela Geller and I met with USDA officials and presented a petition to them asking that they require that halal products be labeled as such, for the benefit of people who objected to halal food for humanitarian, religious, or other reasons. Ultimately the USDA never got back to us and ignored our petition.” There’s a reason for this. Most halal certification is secret.
I explain in a comment I posted in 2017-10-18:
“I am suspicious that the Certified Humane (see: http://certifiedhumane.org/) brand is nothing more that a front for halal slaughter certification. Why? When I was investigating the news story around Mohammad Jessa’s attempt to switch from Alberta beef for the restaurants he manages (Earls, etc), I found that he was going with Creekstone Farms. I researched further and found that Creekstone Farms does not disclose its halal practices (unless asked). (read this article in “Muslim Eater: http://muslimeater.com/2015/06/09/everything-you-need-to-know-about-creekstone-farms-beef-being-halal/). Worst of all, this ranch is listed as a certified humane compliant ranch on the Certified Humane website. (see: http://certifiedhumane.org/whos-certified/)
Truly a twisted web of takiya lies!!”
So read this article in the Muslim Eater. You will be shocked, It basically says that the average Muslim doesn’t need to be concerned, they just need to look for certain suppliers that secretly certify their beef as halal. And they often use humane certification as a cover!
gravenimage says
Yes–disturbing stuff. In the US I gather it is a crap shoot as to whether you are getting Halal meat; in much of Western Europe it is a virtual certainty.
smoris says
Perhaps this shop and Spencer and Geller should have argued that it was as a service to Muslims who do not want to accidentally consume non-halal meat. Honesty in labeling serves everyone better. Had the case been brought on exactly the same facts by a Muslim to demand that such a sign BE posted (“they do not advise in their advertising that they are not halal”) the butcher would have been REQUIRED to post a notice that it was not halal. We are all better off knowing what is claimed for goods we purchase.
Alan Shaw says
I was thinking the same thing. However I would fear that the panel given a muzzie complaint would simply order the butcher to sell halal meat.
ninetyninepct says
Punishing a business for being truthful. Next expect a Muslim to walk in, purchase some meat and then sue the butcher for selling him non-halal food. Nowhere was a claim made that the butcher was “non-halal certified”. There is no such thing. The Advertising Standards body is working to destroy an honest person’s livelihood and family in a desperate attempt to invent something so muslims don’t get offended.
The Standards Body must apologize and offer compensation of at least $1 000,000 .
a day in the sun says
how terrible. the suffering of animals takes second place to Islam. what a vicious people, what a vicious religion.
elee says
+1
Rufolino says
Get used to it people !
Whatever you say and whatever you do, Islam will find a way to be offended.
gravenimage says
+1
MaxwellAintSmart says
The halal methods used to slaughter animals are cruel and inhumane. It’s shocking that it’s more important to avoid offending Muslims, allow the terrible treatment of animals, and punish a shopkeeper than it is to stop Muslims from the inhumane and unethical way they butcher and slaughter animals.
Older Canadian says
I agree with the cruelty, it is outrageous. When ever I think about it I cringe. It is for that reason, and that reason alone I would never buy or consume halal meat. Eating any meat when you really think about it is difficult, so lets not add the knowledge of absolute cruelty to our table.
Christopher Kelley says
Shock & Pain trigger a response in the animal while undergoing slaughter. It sends floods of TOXINS through the blood-stream, infecting all the meat. IT ***IS*** UN-healthy!
This point should be brought up to the USDA — AGAIN, while a mohammedan is no longer in the White House.
DON’T BUY HALAL — Hell-hole meat!
Kangi_Yotaka says
And where, pray, are these “toxins” stored in the animal when it’s not undergoing slaughter? If the animal is full of “toxins,” it’s unhealthy no matter how you slaughter.
Perhaps you’re thinking of adrenaline, which can make animals taste gamey. It’s hardly a toxin.
Making up “facts” and using capitals and asterisks just makes people with legitimate complaints look stupid.
Dan says
Off topic non logic side of the brain question here.
About a week ago, a popular burger joint replaced the word “hamburger” on their menu, with whatever something because the “HAM” part of the word offended, or might offend, Muslims.
So what are Muslims going to do about the word “Hamas?”
gravenimage says
🙂
Eur says
And what about MoHAMed?
mgoldberg says
About the same as they will with the word..Jihad
Sean Anderson says
What “Muslim ethnicity?”
Stewart Davies says
I wondered exactly the same thing. What the f%#@ is “muslim ethnicity? I’m tired of these abysmally ignorant cretins who wield some kind of authority pandering to the deranged disciples of Muhammad. They believe that Islam will conquer the world. They believe that Islam is winning. The more the rest of us try pathetically to placate them, the more aggressive they become.
sidney penny says
add an s to it.
Brian Killen says
What did they expect? Surely WRONG THINK is not tolerated in Western Democracies anymore and the Thought Police are everywhere now!
“I bear witness there is no god Allah and that Muhammad was a very naughty boy”.
Keep up the good work Robert.
Liz says
Frankly they are way too thin skinned if this offends them.
Why is anyone cowing to this kind of boohooing? Can we bring back draw Muhammad Day?
(God bless you Molly where ever you are)
munchenfez says
What ethnicity is muslim? Does that not render the panels statement ridiculous and therefore unable to be held up in law?
mortimer says
Ethical meat is meat that is raised and slaughtered in accordance with morals or the principles of morality; pertaining to right and wrong in conduct, especially the standards of a profession.
Technically, humane slaughter became law in the United States with the 1958 Humane Slaughter Act, intended to prevent the “needless suffering” of livestock during slaughter.
Animals are first stunned with a stun gun called a CASH Knocker, a device that fires a bolt into the cow’s forehead, instantly stunning it so it doesn’t feel the moment of slaughter.
In halal slaughter the animals are not first stunned.
gravenimage says
+1
Watto35 says
There’s a video by Ann Marie Waters showing halal slaughter. Be careful, it’s quite horrible.
gravenimage says
This is the video. Yes, it is graphic–but needs to be seen:
https://www.forbritain.uk/halal/
*94 million* animals suffered Halal slaughter needlessly last year, just in the UK. How many more all over the West?
gravenimage says
This is being imposed on everyone in the UK, Mike. Halal meat is being served in schools, hospitals, government offices, and prisons. It has become the norm, and few Britons even realize this.
PRCS says
Muslim ethnicity?
Islam is not a race and there is no Muslim ‘ethnicity”.
mortimer says
Islam is MULTI-racial and various Muslim ethnicities cherish DIFFERENT CULTURES. Shi’ites and Sunnites are members of SECTS, rather than ETHNICITIES.
It’s the IDEOLOGY, stupid.
gravenimage says
True, PRCS and Mortimer.
PRCS says
The shop should go one step further.
Put up a sign that says:
NOT HALAL CERTIFIED.
Seems to me that should pass muster.
Normal customers will come in for that reason.
Muslims will know it’s not ‘their kinda place’.
gravenimage says
Yes–this just lets everyone know that it is not Halal.
By the way, there is a Kosher restaurant here in the bay area. Kosher certification is apparently a complicated process. When they first opened, they did not have their Kosher certification yet (although their products were Kosher). They didn’t want to wait to open, so they just put a sign in the window, “Not Kosher Certified” (I think this was their exact wording) just to let customers know (they have since gotten their certification).
This sign was just seen as information. But of course Muslims see everything as an occasion for whining and fake victimhood–and too often, the Infidel authorities go along with it. Cringing dhimmitude.
PRCS says
“Yes–this just lets everyone know that it is not Halal.”
Yes.
“This [Not Kosher Certified] sign was just seen as information.”
No doubt.
Though such laws apparently differ from SF Bay/Cal/U.S. and those in Australia and its territories and, of course, Muslims exploited both the laws and gullible Australians.
gravenimage says
PRCS, I believe this only would have been a legal matter in the US if a false claim were being made.
PRCS says
An update:
https://www.facebook.com/girlrisingabovethenoise/photos/a.243046666381214/388543515164861/?type=3&theater
gravenimage says
PRCS, glad to see that this shop is still advertising that their wares are *not* Halal.
FYI says
Ban the word Mu-HAM-med now!
The word HAM is in mu-HAM-med:it is clearly racist,culturally insensitive and islamophobic hate speech….
The HAM in mu-HAM-med:does that seem”offensive and demeaning to people who are of that faith or of muslim ethnicity”
Is that “inciting hatred”?
Do the Leftards feel upset on behalf of the muslims,you know like those prosperousvirtue-signalling White lefty liberals who “share the pain” of Black folk?
Let’s remember that..
you can’t spell mu-HAM-med without the HAM.
somehistory says
Must be moslims on the panel. Would this sign not alert any of the creepy people to the fact that they wouldn’t want to buy their meat there?
Isn’t the sign doing the moslims a favor? They wouldn’t want to buy some meat that would cause them such distress in the midsection that they had a sudden rage and need to carry out a murderous attack on their neighbors. ..would they?
This is just another way of controlling the information that might reach some part of the public that doesn’t yet know how evil is islam and how much moslims wish to take over and force islam on everyone, everywhere.
If fewer moslims had a part in government, and “boards” such as the “ad board”, etc., more decisions would be to the favor of non moslims. They have been allowed to bring their evil domination tactics into every corner of the earth. satan is grinning from his snakepit demon mouth.
Rev. G says
I thought that was a warning to those seeking halal meat, especially Muslims, to look elsewhere. They should be thanking the store for keeping them from wasting time or money there, or purchasing goods they should not eat.
Keys says
To your point see PRCS’s 7:17 pm post above.
The butcher shop apparently changed the sign from “Non-Halal Certified” to
“Not Halal Certified”. Good to know for muslims, and non-muslims.
And, as some posters here have pointed out, if halal meat is not available, it is permissible for a muslim can eat non-halal meat.
Isntlam says
Drain the swamp.
gravenimage says
Australia: Butcher shop’s “Non Halal Certified” sign banned as “offensive and demeaning” to Muslims
……………………..
Good for this butcher shop for trying this. Muslims make up less than 3% of the population–why the hell should Halal be some kind of default?
Then there are the many good Australians who object to the cruelty of Halal slaughter–why the hell should this be ignored to pander to fake Muslim victimhood?
One of the most disgusting things is that Muslims are now trying to pass Halal slaughter off *as humane*? Quite a few clueless Infidels seem to be buying this
Switzerland, Sweden, Norway and Iceland all ban Halal slaughter–Australia should do the same, but they probably won’t.
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/what-is-halal-meat-the-big-questions-about-religious-slaughter-answered-9331519.html
DHazard says
If something bothers your it’s usually your problem. And with Muslims it is 99.99% likely to be their problem.
James Lincoln says
DHazard,
I’d add another 9…
99.999%
Watchingtheweasels says
Between the various gestapo like boards that operate in them and Brexit we are learning that our free democracies are poor examples of either attribute.
jayell says
“The majority of the Panel considered that as there was no such thing as a certification of meat products as ‘non Halal’…” Rubbish. By displaying a notice that meat is ‘non-halal’ one is ipso facto certifying that fact. It is thus a valid form of certification. One might argue that this might provide necessary information for muslims to avoid buying unsuitable meat that is marked in this way. And any suggestion that this was ” offensive and demeaning to people who are of that faith or are of Muslim ethnicity…” is equally rubbish since we’re clearly talking about the product here, not the people that might consume it. And why hasn’t anyone seriously complained that ‘halal’ meat is offensive to the majority in the West who object to the barbarity of this kind of slaughter? Isn’t that allowed?
gravenimage says
Spot on, Jayell.
Angemon says
“The majority of the Panel“, eh? Do we have the names of the people in the panel and their advisors?
James Lincoln says
Angemon,
Likely names that are very hard to spell and pronounce….
tim gallagher says
A little while ago, I read a comment from one of the commenters here at Jihad Watch,(I can’t remember who said it) who mentioned that old quote, “When in Rome, do as the Romans do” and then said, when it comes to endlessly troublemaking Muslims, it is always, “When in Rome, force the Romans to live according your garbage ways” or something along those lines. I thought it was so true. I guess it is this supremacist crap from the Muslims wherever they go. I loathe this idea that we non-Muslims have to have anything to do with Muslim ways, and, especially, the vicious, barbaric halal way of killing animals. It is just one part of the endless trouble that islam brings. Once you let Muslims into any non-Muslim country, all this endless rubbish inevitably follows. No trouble, like this halal rubbish, from Buddhists and others, but from Muslims, it never ends in all areas of life. This was an issue that got quite a bit of attention for a while in Australia. I recall that some of the money that the Muslims were making from the halal scam was being sent to terrorists overseas or something like that. I remember Kirrily(?) Smith was campaigning against this halal certification scam. I haven’t heard much about it lately. I’d prefer to have nothing to do with halal certified food. I applaud this butcher for at least having the courage to put the sign up, which I thought was quite humorous, probably knowing that the PC cave in and surrender crowd would shut it down.
PRCS says
Here’s an update, Tim.
https://www.facebook.com/girlrisingabovethenoise/photos/a.243046666381214/388543515164861/?type=3&theater
tim gallagher says
Thanks for that, PRCS. I had a look at the photo of the shop. By the way, something that might interest the people here at Jihad Watch, which I just remembered, because it happened a few years ago now, here in Australia. The Michael Smith, from “Michael Smith News” blog ( cited as a source in this report) had a pretty promising career as a radio presenter and, I’m pretty sure, lost it when he rightly and bravely said on air that Muhammad had been a paedophile ( I guess he was referring to Muhammad’s sexual antics with Aisha, although I’m not sure he mentioned the Aisha incident). I’m pretty sure that is what happened to the poor man. I can recall some of the other gutless wonders on radio saying how terrible it was for Michael Smith to say such a terrible thing about Muhammad. Of course, anyone who knew anything about Muhammad, knew that what Smith said was true. How dare he tell the truth! Definitely not allowed. I’m pretty sure this destroyed Smith’s career, with very big financial cost to him, although he was also very bravely accusing a former Prime Minister, Julia Gillard, of corruption at an earlier time in her life. Again, Smith showed courage and was probably telling the truth. As someone who knew that Muhammad had, indeed, been a paedophile, I remember being very annoyed at the treatment Michael Smith had received. There definitely seem to be many things that are not allowed to be said out here in very politically correct Australia. I used to look at the “Michael Smith News” blog occasionally, but, I have to say, I’d forgotten about for quite a while. Smith is a brave man and it cost him a hell of a lot. It cost him a fairly mainstream radio career.
gravenimage says
Yes–we are losing more and more of our freedom of speech.
I had not heard of Michael Smith before this, but here is the link to his site:
michaelsmithnews.com
tim gallagher says
Yes, gravenimage, as I said, I used to occasionally look at Michael Smith’s blog, but I hadn’t thought about looking at it for quite a while now. Mostly, I just check out Jihad Watch these days. In Australia, there was another man, Larry Pickering, who ran a website, which used to be tough on Islam. Larry Pickering was a famous political cartoonist out here in Australia, probably from way back to the 1970’s. He was already very ill with cancer at the time he ran his website and died maybe a year or so back from the cancer. That was the other website I used to visit out here. He had a man there named Harry Richardson who had written a book about Islam and used to contribute articles. Kirrily Smith also used to write on Pickering’s website, especially attacking the halal scam. The comments by people were interesting and strong, much like here at Jihad Watch. I know that Pickering received death threats from Muslims and had to move out of his home. I haven’t looked at Pickering’s website for ages. Not sure if it still exists. Michael Smith might have been too outspoken. I thought he told the truth. On Muhammad he obviously did. But, he campaigned on the corruption of Julia Gillard for ages and it seems like no authorities wanted to go after her. Maybe that was the main thing that caused him to lose his career. He wasn’t a young man, not an up and coming radio star. However, I was struck by how he went from being a well paid guy on the radio to having only his blog, which had to get by on donations from the people who liked the blog to survive. He really lost a hell of a lot.
gravenimage says
Thanks so much, Tim–more stuff for me to check out. Yes, truth tellers are increasingly paying a steep price.
I am somewhat familiar with Larry Pickering’s work as a cartoonist. I was unaware until now that he was critical of Islam, although I of course knew that he was “politically incorrect”.
I’d seen this cartoon before–it’s very good–but hadn’t realized it was Pickering’s until just now:
https://alchetron.com/cdn/larry-pickering-d33dee10-61c4-49b7-bebb-293ec1267a5-resize-750.jpeg
PRCS says
Here’s an update, Tim.
https://www.facebook.com/girlrisingabovethenoise/photos/a.243046666381214/388543515164861/?type=3&theater
tgusa says
“this was offensive and demeaning to people who are of that faith or are of Muslim ethnicity”
Did the panel ever stop to think that halal butchering is offensive to non muslilms? Of course not, that would require a functioning brain.
What in the hell is wrong with these people. Make up your mind, are you westerners or middle easterners? If you want to pander to muslims move to the middle east! Just get on with it and get out. We will be just fine without you and your friends.
tgusa says
Offending the predominant culture to pander to imported savages. Well done panel, well done. The panel is emboldening musilms. Where will it end, how far will they go, down on their knees with their butts in the air? I and I assume many others are completely fed up with this garbage.
John says
The butcher should drop the word certified, then there can be no argument as it would comply with the ruling.
I want non-halal, and would support the business.
gravenimage says
Now he is just saying “Not Halal Certified”.
Aussie Infidel says
So a sign saying “Non-Halal Certified” is “offensive and demeaning” to Muslims – and is technically not a ‘legitimate’ designation. Do the politically correct, bureaucrats on the Advertising Standards Panel understand that the scam of certifying foods “halal” is offensive and demeaning to non-Muslims? And do they understand that millions of dollars raked in by this scam worldwide is going to Islamic ‘charities’ which have supported jihadist activities?
The Butcher shop should not take this lying down, and simply replace their sign with one reading “we do not sell meat which has been certified halal”. Or would this still get up the noses of the useful idiots on that Panel?
Two years ago the Australian Parliament held an inquiry into halal certification (which attracted the greatest number of submissions of any issue ever debated) calling for the halal certification scam to be declared illegal. And after the inquiry’s results were handed to the minister calling for further action, it has been shelved, hoping it will just go away. It’s about time we had politicians with guts, who have an abiding sense of loyalty to Australia, and its customs, laws and beliefs, not those of some seventh century Arabian camel herder. But that would be Islamophobic, wouldn’t it?
More Ham Ed says
I haven’t visited JW in a long time but stopped by this evening to say I just heated-up a few slices of Canadian BACON this evening in celebration of JW and this thread.
Keys says
Nice to “see” you again, More Ham Ed.
I was hoping you hadn’t been attacked by jihadis, or contracted trichinosis, or worse.
FYI – you’ll be happy to know that the Alarmed Pig Farmer’s still posting.
Cheers !
edletkiewicz says
This is par for the course in Libtard Land. I was suspended from twitter for a week for stating accurately what religion was responsible for 9/11. Libtards can not handle the truth; especially the fascists’ at twitter.
Lucy says
Sikhs are forbidden to eat halal food and would look for this kind of notification. I’m surprised Mr. Spencer didn’t mention this (unless I missed it.)
Incidentally Kosher slaughter is also controversially cruel to animals and is currently banned in some parts of Europe.
marc says
Kosher is just not the same as halal:
“Halal (Muslim) slaughter performed with a knife that is too short causes definite distress and struggling in cattle. We recommend to those Muslim religious authorities who require slaughter without stunning that they require that the knife must be razor sharp with a straight blade that is at least twice the width of the neck. Unless the animals are stunned, the use of curved skinning knives is not acceptable. Due to the fact that Muslim slaughtermen do not usually receive as extensive special training in slaughter techniques as Jewish Shochtim, preslaughter stunning is strongly recommended. As stated earlier, reversible head-only electrical stunning is accepted by most Muslim religious authorities. Preslaughter stunning allows plants to run at higher line speeds and maintain high standards of animal welfare.”
Grandin would be the authority here. many jews will find any other method than kosher inhumane.
https://www.grandin.com/ritual/kosher.slaugh.html
sidney penny says
He should have said not halal certified rather than non-halal certified.
so rather than “ inciting hatred or contempt a specific group of people based on religious belief,” it would be simply providing information to both infidels and non-infidels.
He should have submitted to the Panel that putting up a “non-Halal-certified” sign should really be seen as a
polite way to say to Muslims,do not waste you time shopping here and allows them to find other butchers that do provide halal meat.
Why are we forced to have halal meat?.Crazy to crack down with ‘discrimination laws’ against a butcher who advertises as ‘non-halal’
A simple word would have saved him from the Panel
sidney penny says
“The majority of the Panel considered that as there was no such thing as a certification of meat products as ‘non Halal’, the phrase used on the window amounted to a statement that was ridiculing of halal certification and that this was offensive and demeaning to people who are of that faith or are of Muslim ethnicity…”
“ridiculing of halal certification”?
Why can it not be ridiculed?
Sometime in a debate or discussion to make your point you have to ridicule the opponents idea or point that the other person is putting forward.
PRCS says
An update:
https://www.facebook.com/girlrisingabovethenoise/photos/a.243046666381214/388543515164861/?type=3&theater
PRCS says
An update:
https://www.facebook.com/girlrisingabovethenoise/photos/a.243046666381214/388543515164861/?type=3&theater
Battle says
There is no god but Mohammad, and Allah is his messenger. –Anjuli Pandavar
Kashmiri Kaffir says
It is utter nonsense for the Advertising Standards body to declare that there was no such thing as a certification of meat products as ‘non Halal’. Members of the Sikh religion are expressly prohibited from consuming halal meat, and many Hindus too prefer meat from animals slaughtered by severing the neck in one fell stroke. This is called ‘Jhatka’ meat and all over India one can find shops with ‘Jhatka’ prominently displayed, announcing in effect, that they are non-Halal. There may not exist a certificate in the form of a piece of paper, but the buyer and seller are well aware of the nature of the transaction.
For example, see http://www.delhibiz.co.in/sites/default/files/pageimages/img-20151030-wa0053.jpg
gravenimage says
Thank you for that information, Kashmiri Kaffir.
Kashmiri Kaffir says
You are most welcome!!
STJOHNOFGRAFTON says
This butcher has a legally defencible case. A lot of meat sold in supermarkets is halal certified but not labelled as such. Many people would like to be able to have the choice of how the source animal of their meat was killed and butchered. I avoid buying meat from suppliers who can’t verify non halal status. Any butcher who advertises non halal status for meat is simply informing customers, whether Muslim or otherwise, of the way in which the meat was sourced.
STJOHNOFGRAFTON says
This butcher has a legally defensible case. A lot of meat sold in supermarkets is halal certified but not labelled as such. Many people would like to be able to have the choice of how the source animal of their meat was killed and butchered. I avoid buying meat from suppliers who can’t verify non halal status. Any butcher who advertises non halal status for meat is simply informing customers, whether Muslim or otherwise, of the way in which the meat was sourced.
MINAS says
Just rename the shop “Porky’s”, that should keep out the deplorable riff-raff.
Joe says
I would want to know whether the meat was halal for several reasons. Some of them were mentioned here. The primary reason was not. Halal meat is probably dirty. They don’t use modern practices. If you eat meat in any Muslim country, you have a good chance of getting intestinal parasites. If it is marked “halal”, you know it is butchered by Muslims. I don’t want to be disparaging, but it is my personal experience that over 50% of those folks don’t use proper hygiene. Do you want someone who doesn’t bathe or wash butchering your meat in unsanitary conditions, while reeking of body order?
Munchenfez says
Is it possible that the reason they do this and teach their brats to do the same is to get the kids used to killing live struggling creatures. It makes topping us a much easier task if they are used to doing it to animals.
gravenimage says
Grimly true.
Giacomo Latta says
Imams do not bless food as halal because they are (currently) bored to death from not having a jihad to bless. They do it for money. If I don’t want my local imam and assorted corporate Islam to get a cut from all the blessing going ’round I need to have a label of halal on food if that’s what it is.
Keys says
I think this “halal” animal slaughter could be an issue of freedom of religion.
I do not want Islamic practices imposed on me, and resent it when done unbeknownst to me.
Here are Muslim conditions for halal slaughter from a Muslim site:
http://halalcertification.ie/islamic-method-of-slaughtering/
One of the conditions is:
“The name of Allah must be invoked (mentioned) at the time of slaughtering by saying: Bismillah Allahu Akbar. (In the Name of Allah; Allah is the Greatest.)”
I do not want to eat meat that has been slaughtered “in the name of Allah” by a muslim, and I want to know if this is the case ! Seems to me that I should have a right to know this, especially with the Muslim “invocation”.
Further, do some slaughter houses have an immam, or Muslim cleric, present to “invoke” Allah ?
This issue reminds me of the early Christian controversy about whether or not to eat meat sacrificed to idols.
Finally, if this situation were reversed, where a butcher or slaughterhouse had a Christian Priest or Minister “bless” the animal, the action, or the food produced, the Muslims would be mad with anger, and CAIR would file a law suit.
toomanyhobbies says
easy solution… don’t go there and LEAVE!
Ade Fegan says
So why doesn’t it matter at all when WE are offended ?
OLD GUY says
I’am offended and find muslims to be demeaning, so can we ban them. I see no reason to be putting up with their bullshit ideology. If they want sharia and halal meat let them stay in their Middle East countries, and I won’t bother them and they can leave me alone.
Mohamed Zowad (yes, my real name. And I hate Islam, I always have hated those arrogant preachers) says
I wish there was a Valley Butchers here in Victoria. I just get around the Halal rubbish, by eating Pork, From a local butchers. I don’t think that would Halal!… But I dont forget to my shock, when I lifted a tin of Pork Luncheon, and I turned it over to check its use by date, and guess what was on the bottom of the tin? A HALAL CERTIFICATION! yes, peoples, this was on a tin of PORK luncheon. I just thought “what the fuck?”
TrueFreeThinker says
People that think “or are of Muslim ethnicity…” are in charge of making these decisions when they’re this stupid? This is the exact kind of thing that we all need to stand up to and fight if we must.