The family that slays together, stays together.
“Australian brothers are found guilty of plotting to blow up a packed Etihad plane with a bomb hidden in a meat grinder in ISIS-inspired attack,” Australian Associated Press, September 19, 2019 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
Two Sydney brothers have now been found guilty of plotting to blow up an Etihad plane with a bomb hidden in a meat grinder and to carry out a lethal poisonous gas attack.
The siblings plotted with their older brother, Tarek Khayat, who was involved with Islamic State in Syria, and ‘the controller’, an unidentified person connected with the older brother, according to the prosecutor Lincoln Crowley QC.
Khaled Khayat, 51, was found guilty in May of conspiring, between mid-January and late-July 2017, to prepare or plan a terrorist act, but the NSW Supreme Court jury failed to agree on a verdict for his brother.
Mahmoud Khayat, 34, faced a retrial and another jury found him guilty of the same charge on Thursday afternoon.
Their motivation was said to have included supporting violent jihad and they were accused of doing many preparatory acts during the seven-month conspiracy.
The plane plot involved a bomb in a meat grinder being put into the luggage of a fourth brother, Amer Khayat, who was flying out of Sydney on an Etihad flight, Mr Crowley told the first trial.
Amer Khayat has been cleared of involvement in the plot.
But the plan was abandoned because the baggage was found to be overweight at the airport.
Khaled Khayat then proposed that he himself would arrange to take the bomb, Mr Crowley said.
‘The controller told him not to do that because he had to stay for the continuation of the work here and had to find someone else,’ he said.
The second plot involved poisonous gas which the older brother was going to make at his home following instructions given by the controller.
When Khaled Khayat was arrested police found a piece of paper in his wallet that had Arabic words, numbers and symbols written on it.
The paper was examined by a forensic chemist and Arabic interpreters, who determined that one side of the paper included the correct chemical equation for poisonous gas, while the other side had further details relating to the gas.
In his three-day police interview, Khaled Khayat spoke of walking into the airport with the concealed bomb.
He said when he saw children at the airport he thought ‘Don’t do it, don’t be stupid, don’t do it’ and removed the bomb from the baggage….
gravenimage says
Australia: Muslim brothers plotted to blow up packed plane with bomb hidden in meat grinder
The family that slays together, stays together.
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Yes, indeed–and this also gives the lie to the idea that Jihadsists are always young and confused–one of the brothers was 51, and another ever older. Even the younger brother was 34.
More:
The plane plot involved a bomb in a meat grinder being put into the luggage of a fourth brother, Amer Khayat, who was flying out of Sydney on an Etihad flight, Mr Crowley told the first trial.
Amer Khayat has been cleared of involvement in the plot.
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Well, this doesn’t seem to be *all* about family togetherness–the bros were apparently fine in sacrificing this brother without his knowledge…
And Etihad Airlines is out of the UAE, so one would presume that many of the victims would be Muslims. Perhaps the “wrong kind” of Muslims, so they can be treated like Infidels and murdered in Jihad. And we don’t know what they were going to target with that poison gas.
mortimer says
There is no ‘typical’ appearance of jihadist, because they disguise their intentions carefully to avoid apprehension before their attack. Even a Muslim cabinet minister in Lebanon admitted to Western diplomats that he could not pick out a terrorist in a crowd of Muslims. It could be literally anyone. You would not know until the bomb went off.
The safest thing we can do is to fund private counterjihad websites that will find new and creative ways to attract Muslims to discuss Islam with deprogrammers. Muslims can be deprogrammed, but few are doing that. Deprogrammer candidates should be specially selected and then trained in the latest deprogramming protocols. International agencies should work together to build the best arguments to quickly take jihadists RIGHT OUT OF ISLAM … all the way out … and intellectually incapable of returning to Islam’s offensive nonsense and brutal supremacism ever again.
gravenimage says
True, Mortimer. That photo looks like a fairly typical Westerner, if a bit on the scruffy side.
Keys says
Even children are made into bombs and soldiers for Allah as we have seen many times.
James Lincoln says
Mortimer says,
“The safest thing we can do is to fund private counterjihad websites that will find new and creative ways to attract Muslims to discuss Islam with deprogrammers.”
This is a swell strategy – if it could work. And I’m NOT trying to be a smartass – the stakes are too high.
What are some examples of some “new and creative ways” to attract these Muslims for potential deprogramming?
I guess it’s safe to say that deprogramming, in the United States anyway, can only be done with willing Muslim participants.
Paul J says
Mortimer you need to de-programme yourself from the idea that de-programming will do anything to stop the relentless march of islam across the West or that it will stop muslims from slaughtering people. For God’s sake, how can anyone so intelligent as yourself be so incredibly naive and/or stupid at the same time? All your pet de-programming idea will do is enrich the people running it. For perhaps a single didgit % success rate. Wake up, with your extensive knowledge of islam you should know better.
Paul J says
Digit, sorry typo
gravenimage says
Mortimer wrote:
The safest thing we can do is to fund private counterjihad websites that will find new and creative ways to attract Muslims to discuss Islam with deprogrammers. Muslims can be deprogrammed, but few are doing that. Deprogrammer candidates should be specially selected and then trained in the latest deprogramming protocols.
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Most Counter Jihad sites–like Jihad Watch–are primarily aimed at educating Infidels, not “deprogramming” Muslims.
Just recently, you claimed that “deprogramming” Muslims was too dangerous for civilians, and would have to be done by super-secret undercover government programs–now you seem to have changed your mind again.
You have also said that Islam is on the brink of collapsing due to Muslim women, or Al Azhar and Saudi scholars secretly reforming Islam–and putting it on their websites, but so covertly that we cannot recognize it, and that Islam will not be a threat at all within a few years.
I hate to say it, but this all seems rather like wishful thinking–and very odd, given how knowledgeable you are about the vicious creed of Islam itself.
Kerry Wade says
I think Mortimer sometimes reads like a Muslim plant, and his posts, like yours, are over long!
Giacomo Latta says
A 21-year-old Muslim has spent 20 years being programmed to hate Jews, America, the wrong kind of Muslims. How long is this deprogramming programme supposed to take, presuming it doesn’t involve lead?
gravenimage says
Kerry, Mortimer is *not* a Muslim–he is a staunch Anti-Jihadist. But I think he is overly optimistic about Islam ceasing to be a threat in the immediate future.
As for the length of our posts, you need not read them if you consider them to be over-long. I do not post unless I believe I have something to add to the conversation–but you and anyone else are, of course, free to disagree.
Fred Dawes says
its called madness! why would anyone want to kill people like that only some insane Muslims would do that.
Anthony Connor says
As far as I am concerned, ALL Muslims have mental problems!
tim gallagher says
gravenimage, I saw a TV news report on this terror plot last night. I knew about the two brothers who had been convicted. Then there was the brother who they were happy to blow up on the plane. A fourth brother went to Syria (I think it was Syria) to fight with ISIS and has been captured and, the news report said, will probably be executed. Good riddance. These people have been a wonderful addition to Australian society, haven’t they!!! I wonder if the innocent brother, who they were willing to put on the plane and blow up, wasn’t as hardline as them and they disliked him. He was the one who just got released from a gaol in Lebanon. When I saw him leaving the gaol in Lebanon, I must say, I doubted whether he was innocent. I thought, I wonder what he really knew. I guess I couldn’t trust any of these brothers.
gravenimage says
Quite possible, Tim–I did not mean to imply that the one brother is necessarily someone who rejects Jihad–just that since his brothers didn’t tell him and he was not in on the plot, and that they were fine about sacrificing him.
As you note, the other brothers may just not like him–in an Infidel family, this would probably just mean not inviting him to thanksgiving dinner, not murdering him in a Jihad terror attack.
Likely none of them belong in Australia–the Jihad plotters *certainly* don’t.
tim gallagher says
gravenimage, what a terrible blight on Australia the three brothers have proved to be. The main thing I meant to say was that when I saw the brother, who they were apparently quite happy to blow up on the plane, come out of the gaol in Lebanon, probably totally innocent, I thought, yeah, I don’t trust this brother either, and I wonder what the hell he is like, what his attitudes are. I then thought, well, it is a shame I think that way, but there you go. I probably pretty much trust no Muslims. It certainly was a vicious act the way they planned to blow their brother up. But, hey, as long as it advances their Islamic cause, they’re fine with it.
gravenimage says
I know what you mean, Tim. But how often have we seen “moderate” Muslims–or victims of other Muslims–who turned out to adhere to most of the ugliness of Islam themselves?
mortimer says
This jihadist developed a conscience and put humanity ahead of ALLAH, the deity that needs endless human sacrifices.
gravenimage says
How so, Mortimer? It sounds as though he was arrested at the airport, not that he turned himself in. Also, this was the second time trying to commit this Jihad terror attack.
DHazard says
I have heard many Muslims say they love Muhammad more than their parents, children and siblings. It’s a tragedy that’s been going on for hundreds of years all put in motion by an “I talk to God” type con artist, like Joseph Smith but way bigger. So sacrificing a brother is something to celebrate. It’s so sick.
Fred Dawes says
MADNESS Must run in this family!
Angemon says
“Violent jihad” is a means, not an end. Why did they support violent jihad? Could it be because killing and/or being killed in jihad is the only way to ensure entry in Paradise, wiping clean all their sins?
gravenimage says
That’s part of it, Angemon.
But the main purpose of Jihad ultimately is to impose brutal Islamic law, forcing the Infidels to submit to Islam.
Keys says
When I fly I always take my silver meat grinder with me.
gravenimage says
Yes–I noticed that, as well.
tim gallagher says
People here at Jihad Watch, who know the content of the Koran and of violent islam, know that these attempted, or successful, terrorist attacks by Muslims will go on and on. I believe everyone should have woken up to this by now. I saw a report on the TV news about this particular attempted attack the other night, which said that it would have been, by far, the biggest Muslim terrorist attack in Australia so far, because it would have blown up a plane and killed a huge number of people. It was so lucky that the plan failed, in this case, because the meat grinder was overweight, or too big an item, to get onto the plane. So lucky that these loathsome terrorists made such a blunder. The third of these brothers was just released from a gaol in Lebanon. It was on the TV news over the weekend. He was shown walking out of gaol. I think he was found innocent of involvement in it, but spent some time in the gaol in Lebanon.
Aussie Infidel says
Tim, You are absolutely right, it would have been the biggest terrorist attack in our history and killed hundreds of people. These terrorists are loathsome people, acting on the commands of their 7th century psychopathic prophet. These attempts by Muslims will go on and on, and sooner or later one will succeed. But many of our political leaders still don’t get it, because they haven’t read the Quran, and don’t believe that a religion could contain so much hatred and violence. I spoke to one such politician at a meeting only yesterday, who was convinced that Islam is ‘a religion of peace’. We have a massive job ahead of us to re-educate our misinformed leaders.
It’s way past time that this ‘religion’ was declared illegal, because it is more a political ideology than a religion – and predicated on the hatred of unbelievers and violence toward them. There are hundreds of such verses in the Quran alone, and these are just some of them: Quran 2:190-193, 3:28, 4:74-76, 5:10, 5:14, 8:12, 8:24, 8:39, 8:60, 9:5, 9:14-15, 9:29, 9:38-39, 9:73, 35:9, 47:4, etc, etc. As in other religions, not all Muslims obey their scriptures literally. But nevertheless, those verses are there in black and white, and they will continue to incite Muslim hotheads to carry out such attacks into the future for evermore. Is this the price our leaders are prepared to inflict on their citizens, in the name of diversity and multiculturalism? Or will they have the political will to do what is necessary, and ban Islam as a threat to our national security.
tim gallagher says
I agree with everything you’ve said there, Aussie Infidel. I keep saying that I believe everyone should have woken up to Islam’s evil and dangerous nature by now (after all the terrorist attacks, rape gangs, etc). Our political leaders often seem to be completely clueless. They need to read the reports here at Jihad Watch and wake up. I have written to our politicians for many years ( not too often because I figure that that would just annoy them too much) and I include some of those verses from the Koran which call for violence. We have to keep trying to wake our politicians up. Of course, the leftie media and academic crowd run a protection racket for islam. (I guess it is the globalisation dream and the belief that all multiculturalism is good). joanofark06, I’m a Christian as well (a flawed one, no doubt) and what you say is true. But we have to fight hard against Islam and can’t wait for the peaceful Christian God to win this war for us.
gravenimage says
+1