This article shows how the Left’s contradictions threaten to break its weird coalition wide open at any time. Will Islamic groups rail against the opposition to this curricular material as “Islamophobic”? Will gay rights groups finally begin to realize that they have a much more dangerous enemy than right-wing Christians? Which aggrieved victim group will Dutch authorities choose?
Yes, Christianity teaches that homosexual activity is wrong, but it doesn’t teach that homosexuals should be put to death.
The Qur’an contains numerous condemnations of homosexual activity: “And [We had sent] Lot when he said to his people, ‘Do you commit such immorality as no one has preceded you with from among the worlds? Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a transgressing people.’…And We rained upon them a rain [of stones]. Then see how was the end of the criminals.” (Qur’an 7:80-84)
Muhammad specifies the punishment for this in a hadith: “The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, ‘Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Loot, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.’” (Sunan Abu Dawud 4462)
“Netherlands: Islamic Primary School Distributes Anti-Gay Literature,” by Chris Tomlinson, Breitbart, September 14, 2019:
Islamic primary schools across the Netherlands have distributed anti-LGBT literature which claims Allah destroyed an entire people based on their homosexuality.
The material is part of the sex education in Islamic schools and comes from the book Help! I am Growing Up released by the Islamic organisation ISBO for 44 schools across the Netherlands, Nederlandse Omroep Stichting reports.
On the topic of homosexuality, the book states that “the prohibition in Islam is based on having intercourse with someone of the same sex,” and goes on to condemn transgender people saying that Allah “cursed” boys who dress as girls.
When asked about the material the Education Inspectorate told the broadcaster, “With regard to teaching materials, the inspectorate always looks at how this is applied in the context. These examples do not in themselves give cause to assume that legal limits are being exceeded.”…
Angemon says
Leftists trying to figure out whom to support:
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/021/464/14608107_1180665285312703_1558693314_n.jpg
Liz says
It is the weirdest thing isn’t it?
Norger says
It really is absolutely freakin’ bizarre. Islam is the antithesis of liberal western values. It’s misogynistic, hostile to free speech, hostile to freedom of religion, hostile to secular governments, anti-gay etc. etc. Yet the left bends itself into knots defending Islam. “Gays against Islamophobia” is like blacks supporting the KKK. The cognitive dissonance is just overwhelming.
revereridesagain says
I make my usual recommendation for educating such people, tailored to how they “idenfity”. Don some very brief swimwear or a rainbow patterned playsuit — you can borrow one from a certain opportunistic pop diva — and appear in the main square of the capital of any Muslim nation on a Friday right after prayers casting come-hither glances at the men leaving the mosque.
See what happens next. If you make it back here alive, let us know whether your attitude towards “Islamophobia” has changed.
James Lincoln says
revereridesagain,
They wouldn’t even have to leave Western Europe. Let them just try this deep inside a “no-go” zone at night (I know they don’t really exist) in say, Sweden or France…
gravenimage says
Yes–there is nothing liberal about Islam.
Demsci says
You are so right. But some time ago I got to talking with a gay guy (Dutch, in Holland), and he too was anti-Israel en Islam apologist. But after a while it transpired that he loved a specific Moroccan guy, or perhaps Moroccan guys in general. But I don’t know how to make sense of that. But even if the Moroccan gay guys were “modern”, they still, you know, they advocated for Islam and leftist gays fell for it, some because of desire.
Westman says
Talk about double standards. If you’re Dutch and say anything criticizing Muslims you get the “Geert Wilders” treatment. If you are Muslim and call the Dutch gays, evil, nothing happens as long as you don’t persecute them(yet)? This is like cute little brownshirts learning about Jews. Guess what comes later?
Liz says
Thank you for sharing this! Your timing is perfect!
On Wednesday the Minneapolis FBI branch is even having a joint forum with CAIR, and the St Cloud Police Chief on Dismantling Hate Crimes. We are looking to have the FBI follow their own DOJ policy and cancel their appearance with CAIR.
https://conservativefiringline.com/fbi-teams-up-with-cair-for-hate-crimes-event-9-18-19-st-cloud-mn-breaking-their-own-doj-policy-how-can-this-be/
So in response the leftists are holding a pride march on top of our Rally and Prayers for the Persecuted meeting: https://www.kvsc.org/event/st-cloud-community-pride-and-peace-walk/
Reziac says
Maybe it’s time to invite the local imam and his most devout followers to counter-protest that “peace walk” … because short of getting their heads kicked in, these rainboy (er, typo, but I think I’ll keep it) types will never learn which side Islam is on… and it’s sure as hell not theirs.
CogitoErgoSum says
Well, in the name of equality and to help their friends and allies in the Alphabet Community the Muslims should be handing out flyers for the next Drag Queen Story Hour to be held at the local public library.
What’s that? Koran 3:28 says this: “Let not the believers take the disbelievers as Auliya (supporters, helpers, etc.) instead of the believers, and whoever does that will never be helped by Allah in any way, except if you indeed fear a danger from them. And Allah warns you against Himself (His Punishment), and to Allah is the final return.”
Oh, okay.
mortimer says
– Two thirds of all reported incidents of anti-gay violence in Amsterdam are by Muslim youths.
Kay says
And in a like concern, are they reporting what percentage of rapes are by Muslims?
Probably there is no way to quantify the increased fear and reduced freedom experienced by females.
tgusa says
This is no dilemma for the left it is really quite simple, bus meet alphabet people, that is the way leftists roll. Vote yourself under the bus alphabet people. Vote leftist.
FYI says
“Queers against islamophobia”
maybe a change of statement..a more accurate one is necessary.
“Queers available to be thrown off the rooftops by devout muslims at a later date”
gravenimage says
Grimly true, FYI.
Demsci says
Good black humor, FYI
Angemon says
CNN headline: “Muslim LGBT+ allies teaches gays how to fly away from Trump’s America”
Norger says
In Churchill’s words, “an appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.”
Jennifer says
Truth!
Blurb1000 says
Why is Jack Nicholson and all the others seem to be normal in ” One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest” compared to this?
Bc this IS crazy.
James Lincoln says
Let me see if I can follow this:
“Queers against Islamophobia.”
Okay, let’s take them at their word. They are gay and they feel that it is irrational for gays to fear Islam.
Islam in its core texts speaks of the hatred of gays and killing of gays.
There can only be two explanations:
These particular gays want to be killed.
Or..
We are witnessing the denial of factual evidence-based logic – and severe cognitive dissonance.
gravenimage says
Most gay people I know know little to nothing about Islam–and do not want to find out.
James Lincoln says
Yes, gravenimage, that would be a third explanation…
How sad.
Norger says
It’s some mind-changing, reality-altering combination of identity politics, denial and ignorance. Although the ignorance itself seems to be an intellectually detached, almost “studied ignorance” if that makes sense. Andrew McCarthy (who prosecuted the Blind Sheikh) aptly calls it Willful Blindness.” Otherwise intelligent people are just brain-dead; they can’t/won’t acknowledge what is staring them in the face.
gravenimage says
That’s it exactly, Norger. I have had people literally put their hands over their ears so as not to hear anything critical about Islam.
Jennifer says
You know what I think is the best way to reach these people…and it’s how people were told about Nazi’s a long time ago…you leave written information at bars and in places we’re they gather! There was an underground movement and so can’t recall the name…but, they secretly hand typed information and then under cover, or just quicjlkly they would leave the literature in public places for distribution. I would say that even having a written letter would do the job, stating…because I care about you…I want you to know this for your protection, and let them read it at their leisure. I’d include ideas for how to protect themselves. For example, “Share this with loved ones.” Don’t be afraid of learning more because knowledge is power.” Lastly, if you ever want to talk…call me, I know this is a lot to take in and I don’t want you to feel alone. As soo. As I am able I will respond to you. The answer in my opinion is in modes that are less uncomfortable and more simple.
gravenimage says
Luckily, there *were* good people who spoke out against the threat of Fascism–and they were often sneered at just as people are today who speak out about the threat of Islam. We can’t give up.
gravenimage says
Dilemma for the Left: Islamic organization in Netherlands distributes anti-gay literature for Islamic schools
………………..
Who can be surprised by this? Only those in deep denial.
Battle says
Robert Spencer hits nail on head. Good.
Reziac says
Right-wing modern Christians have never truly been “dangerous” for gays. That’s almost entirely leftist propaganda, based on the residue of laws of previous centuries. Mostly we just don’t our noses rubbed in it. What you do in your own home is your problem.
Oh, the terrible incidents you’ve heard about, from out here in redneck country? Nope, not exactly… This is from a friend (sadly now deceased) who was on the spot:
— when you get yourself tied to a fence post after a drug deal goes wrong, it’s a lot easier to convict the culprits for a ‘hate crime’ than for one doper killing another doper.
— don’t steal drugs from your boyfriend the dope dealer, and he won’t drag you behind his truck.
Can’t hold a candle to Muslims chuckin’ gays off buildings wholesale.
Rufolino says
Robert:
“Christianity teaches that homosexual activity is wrong”.
Do you mean “the Churches teach that homosexual activity is wrong” ?
Or do you mean “the Pope teaches homosexual activity is wrong” ?
Or do you mean the former Pharisee, St.Paul, teaches that homosexual activity is wrong ?
Or do you mean that most ordinary Christians believe homosexual activity is wrong ?
What you cannot mean is that Jesus taught that homosexual activity is wrong.
SemiDave says
What Jesus said is this:
Matthew 5:17-20 King James Version (KJV)
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
In the case of the most orthodox Christians that means that anything mentioned in the Ten Commandments and then the Mosaic Law are to be observed to this day. If masturbation and the resultant ejaculation was considered an abomination and lusting after your own sex was considered an abomination in Moses day, it is considered to be the same to this day and beyond!
My own opinion is irrelevant at this point. God will judge all as He claims that right, not me.
Jennifer says
Ah man…I really disagree with you. Your understanding of that last part…You see what he was saying was that not a single one of us can ever be perfect, only Jesus can be. He is saying, that in order for YOU to be able to save YOURSELF that your righteousness would have to exceed the Pharisees and we all know the Pharisees were sticklers on keeping themselves perfect and yet even they were not getting it right! They themselves also weren’t perfect. Jesus actually didn’t approve of what they were doing. What he was saying in that verse is that…YOU CANT SAVE YOURSELF ON YOUR OWN!!! YOU CANT! He gave the Pharisees as an example to illustrate how hopeless it is for us to save ourselves!!! He’s pointing to himself!!! You can be saved through FAITH in Christ Jesus! We realize that HE is THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIGHT AND NOONE CAN COME TO THE FATHER, EXCEPT THROUGH HIM!!! ******Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6 It takes the pressure off of us, we can sigh in relief because we then live under GRACE!!!!***8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
Ephesians 2:8-9
It’s why we cry when we realize what HE DIED FOR US. We’re the ones that deserve death and separation from God, but he neared it and all our sins at that time, all of them past and present!!!! They were placed on Him as he hung there. Don’t you recall that the Bible says that God actually left him alone:( He was separated from God:( God the Father can’t look upon sin and he took our sins upon him:( Oh my gosh, I get chills and want to cry thinking about it.:( He did what we can’t do! We can’t save ourselves. We fail. Weekly, daily we are imperfect, but HIS GRACE IS SUFFICIENT FOR ME! HIS POWER IS MADE PERFECT IN MY WEAKNESS! When my young boys are weak, when they sin…masturbate, whatever I reassure them that God’s Grace is sufficient for them, that they are still loved and live under grace, but that doesn’t mean that we continue in sin, but rather we must learn to have self-control and that takes practice, and a dependence on God. He didn’t come to CONDEMN you, my children or any of these people for their sins!!! He wants our sins to point us to our need of HIM!!!If ultimately they don’t choose Him and to follow Him, then THEY choose for themselves where they spend eternity. 🙁 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.
19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil.
20 For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed.
21 But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God.” (John 3:17, ESV) This is why even though life can be difficult and even disappointing, we can through all things still have JOY. JOY isn’t dependent on what is going on around us, JOY is what we have regardless of circumstances because we live by FAITH and not by works. ❤️❤️❤️❤️God Bless You. All of you!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Demsci says
In America Pete Buttigieg is sooooo brave against evangelicals, esp. VP Pence, calling them out on having misgivings about LGBT. The coward never dares attack Islamic Congresswomen about what Islam teaches and how Islam inspires Muslim anti gay attitude/ actions.
Giacomo Latta says
”Christianity teaches that homosexual activity wrong, but it doesn’t teach that homosexuals should be put to death.”
If homosexuals are onto this, I wonder if that explains why there are always several present at a Christian event yet absolutely absent at a Muslim event.