My latest at PJ Media:
Eighteen years after the September 11 jihad attacks that murdered nearly three thousand people, this is where we are: the Bloomfield Hills Baptist Church in Michigan has canceled an event called “9/11 forgotten? Is Michigan surrendering to Islam” under pressure from the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), a group with ties to Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood. And so the answers are clear: yes, 9/11 has been forgotten, and Michigan is indeed surrendering to Islam.
The event was to feature an ex-Muslim, Shahram Hadian, speaking on “How the Interfaith Movement is Sabotaging America and the Church” and economist and investigative reporter Jim Simpson discussing “How Islam is Destroying America from Within.” The event will go on tonight as a webinar, but it will not take place at the church, despite the fact that last week, the church’s pastor, Donald McKay, denied that it was an “anti-Muslim” event: “Islam is a growing threat in the United States of America,” said McKay. “We don’t hate Muslims, we hate the ideology they are identified with.”
The distinction McKay made, however, made no difference whatsoever. Dawud Walid, executive director of CAIR’s Michigan chapter, fumed: “We find it incredibly irresponsible for a church to invite someone who has the objective of spewing clear anti-Muslim bigotry.” Two Democratic members of the House of Representatives from Michigan, Andy Levin and Debbie Dingell, issued a joint statement admonishing the church that there is “no place for hate in Metro Detroit, in Michigan or anywhere in the United States. We implore the Bloomfield Baptist Church to forgo the anti-Muslim events planned for next week and instead recognize America’s rich cultural and religious diversity as we reflect on one of the most painful days in our country’s history and heal from recent acts of white supremacist violence.”
So evidently Walid, Levin, and Dingell believe that it is “anti-Muslim” “hatred” and “bigotry” to oppose an ideology that calls for warfare against and the subjugation of those who don’t accept it, denies the freedom of speech and equality of rights of women, and is inveterately anti-Semitic. This demonstrates clearly that all these years after 9/11, the victory of the forces of jihad is nearly complete, at least in terms of our ability to discuss the ideology of those who attacked New York City and Washington, D.C., on that day.
If Michigan and the rest of the United States have surrendered to Islam, in the sense of not being able to study the motivating ideology behind jihad terror, that surrender began on September 17, 2001, when President George W. Bush appeared at the Islamic Center of Washington, D.C., in the company of several prominent Muslim leaders, and said: “These acts of violence against innocents violate the fundamental tenets of the Islamic faith. And it’s important for my fellow Americans to understand that….The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That’s not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don’t represent peace. They represent evil and war.”
There is much more. Read the rest here.
Frosty Wooldridge says
“Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any faith, but to become dominant. The Qur’an should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.” Omar Ahmed, director of Council on American Islamic Relations.
Read it and weep for America.
Wellington says
Indeed. But still so many in America, far too many, remain willfully ignorant or just too damn lazy (or both) to take the time to comprehend how Islam, left free rein in America, will destroy America.
I mean how many Americans who are non-Muslims have read the Koran in its entirety or even know what the hadiths and sira are?
To date, not nearly enough.
Freedom, precious as it is, often perishes even with knowledge, common sense and wisdom. Without knowledge, common sense and wisdom it has no chance.
And herein lies the greatest indictment of the Western 1960’s generation in the West, i.e., the idiotic, self-absorbed, parasitic, stupid and,pretty much ignorant and eternally clueless generation en masse who miserably and narcissistically actually think higher of themselves if they denigrate Western Civilization–the very civilization which produced more for mankind, including philosophy, democracy, the scientific method, the most advanced technology ever developed by man, and the capacity to apologize for wrongdoings (but not in the pathetic way a rube like the Archbishop of Canterbury has recently done—on a side note, what a shame the Anglican Church {except in Africa} has lost its collective balls, ditto for the Roman Catholic Church and many other Protestant denominations) AND women’s rights like no other civilization or society in the world.
When the greatest civilization of all time, the West, is held to account but lesser civilizations and societies are not—the Islamic world, Asian civilizations, the sub-Saharan African world and the American Indian world, etc.—one knows or should know they are living in the Age of Nonsense.
Perhaps there is no hope for mankind after all. To the extent that the Islamic world is exculpated and the Western world is inculpated only bitterly proves my point. And, just wondering, how many Christian churches and Jewish synagogues have been over the past few decades been built in Muslim countries but yet just since 9/11 there have been over 1,000 mosques built in America alone.
I rest my case.
gravenimage says
Fine post, Wellington.
J D S says
Yes Wellington and graven I agree…and I think one of the problems is the FACT that our government officials, elected, appointed or whatever (BLESS THEIR HEARTS) have not taken the lead in confronting Islam…As a religion islam falls short in every facet of its existence and therein lies the problem . No one in our government wants to address just what a religion consist of..As far as I am able to find out Islam stands alone as a militant , political religious group and that alone should throw the proverbial RED FLAG.
Many people will say we don’t need new laws on the books but as far as I know there is no law that states what a RELIGION should consist of but I feel sure that MURDER would not be listed as acceptable.
Oh Muslims will say and have been saying over and over that the faction that is committing these many atrocities are not part and parcel of islam…Pure bunk…..If it is not then why aren’t those Muslims,who say this , screaming from every street corner, marching in the streets and using every media outlet in the world to say they are going to revamp Islam to be a REAL religion of peace…Any of the above going to happen…OF COURSE NOT!!!!!
James Lincoln says
Wellington,
Excellent post, my compliments.
Yes, even now, a large percent of non-Muslims in the United States know very little about Islam. What they do know is probably wrong – or even the exact opposite – because of several reasons:
They rely on the leftist mainstream media for information – with much input from the Muslim brotherhood front organizations.
They have bought the lie that anti-jihad websites like Jihad Watch are run by conspiracy theorists and hatemongers. And that the commenters are far right Islamophobes.
They don’t have the interest to do their own fact-based, objective, evidence-based research with primary source verification of the Islamic source texts. Or at least trust websites like Jihad Watch.
Presidents GW Bush and Barack Obama told the American public repeatedly that Islam is a “religion of peace” and that the Jihadi terrorists were “hijacking a great religion.”
I’m sure there are more reasons…
And yes, some are willfully ignorant – or just plain lazy.
And yes, freedom is not free. Not by a longshot. And it is constantly being attacked.
It goes without saying that you are correct regarding Western civilization. You have correctly pointed out that it has produced more for mankind, by a country mile, that any other civilization in history. And we have held ourselves accountable, unlike most other civilizations.
And to my knowledge, no Christian cathedrals are being built in countries like Saudi Arabia – yet they finance mosques throughout the Western world.
Is there hope for mankind?
I’d like to think so…but…
It’s just that I’m just not sure if the glass is half empty or half full…
abad says
+1
Joe says
It is not necessary to read the entire Koran to know it is from a warlord. “Don’t be friends with the unbeliever” is written on nearly every page. Only a warlord (a conqueror) would write that. That phrase eliminate the possibility of Islam being a benign religion.
As for me, I’m not going to read trash like that, but I studied how Islam began which was thousands of years before Christ. It most likely started with Noah (or better the death of Noah). Mohammed used Islam to gain unity in his tribe when he was the leader and warlord of his people. Islam was never able to recover.
My point is that there is so much wrong with Islam, that a couple of minutes with the source material should convince any intelligent person that Islam needs to be either suppressed or reformed. Our “leaders” are either stupid or evil, at the least.
D J says
For making such comments we are described as ‘white supremacists’. And yet, with all its imperfections, western civilization is indeed supreme.
FYI says
Thus answering the question “is michigan surrendering to islam?”:
YES
But then again:thanks to CAIR for revealing their subversive agenda…
DiploNerd says
Exactly. Why bother with an entire session when they can demonstrate a loud and clear “YES!” by bowing to CAIR’s demand? Canceling says it all.
Genevieve says
first, the fact that cair succeeded in getting the event cancelled because they know it is true; MI and MN are lost to these cretins. Every person who attends any non-muslim church should read and study “The Muslim Brotherhood Strategic Plan for America” dated 5/22/91. It is online. This plan is working well for them and not anyone else. DO NOT CAVE TO THEIR DEMANDS; THEY RELY ON INTIMIDATION AND POOR ME TO SUCKER PEOPLE INTO BELIEVING THEM. DO NOT DO THIS; THEY ARE L I A R S THROUGH AND THROUGH.
Omar Ahmed is 100% brainwashed to believe all the crap they spew. DO NOT FALL FOR IT; STICK TO YOU ‘G UNS’ ; THESE PEOPLE ARE dead set on destroying America from within.
Teresa says
cair, islam, socialism, democrats are all boiling in the same pot so watch out.
Teresa says
forgot to say, cair and muslim brotherhood are one and the same and should be designated as terrorist groups in the USA and deported. omar ahmed is smoking that tainted stuff for sure. he is delusional.
FYI says
Will CAIR be wanting to ban any reference to AbraHAM Lincoln?
I mean,come on,it has HAM in it ..which is clearly racist,culturally insensitive and islamophobic to muslims and their political bedfellows,the Left.
Johane says
And what about Mohammed? It also has HAM in it???
FYI says
Yes and so does Noahs’s son HAM..who begat Bacon,the ancestor of all muslms.
OK I may have deliberately misremembered that..
muslims and lefties should be reminded that muhammed contains HAM.
Eur says
in a few years history will be rewritten and Abraham will be Ibrahim and that will explain that he wore a beard but no mustache.certainly Islam has contributed to making America a great country …. ahahhahaha
gravenimage says
Irony: CAIR Successfully Pressures Church to Cancel ‘Is Michigan Surrendering to Islam?’ Event
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CAIR proves that this Church is correct.
Filthy Islam says
Saw Jim Simpson Monday at a act for long island meeting he said that the event was having problems and might get canceled it seems the muslims have the power smh wtf is going on
Shirley Ann says
I remember the Reprimand that President Bush used to Scold the American People for something that we had never done. No American Harrassed any Muslim then or later, but Bush on 9/17/2001, was no longer an American President, but was “ISLAM’S MAN IN DC”. When Bush transferred Power to Obama, another Muslim Tool, the UN Migration Pact of Muslims was put into, “Go MODE”.
somehistory says
For all who “Love Jehovah,” the command was written thousands of years ago, “Hate what is bad.”
That pretty much covers for me the claim by the “reps” that “there is no place for hate…in the United States.”
islam is not just “bad,” islam is pure evil, so hatred for islam is commanded by Jehovah. A command I find easy to obey.
Back when 9/11 was still being given top billing in the news, Diane Sawyer gathered a bunch of people together in the ABC studios. They all said they had loved ones killed in the towers or on the planes. Some of these…were singled out for attention because they were moslim.
This was an attempt to make moslims the victims…which those few were… of the terrorists and, therefore, dispel the idea…which was the Truth…that moslims and islam were at fault, were to blame, for the attacks and mass murders.
Does the fact that some White people in the old West rode trains but did not rob them, but were robbed… change the fact that some White men in the old West did robbed trains? it’s the same with this issue…the fact that a few moslims were killed in the towers and planes, did not change the fact that other moslims flew the planes that hit the buildings. But the reporters wanted the public to think it did,
A news report at that time, brought a moslim family…the guy looked like he had just come over from pakistan, as he wore the dress and the cap…and the reporter held a pity party for the guy due to his having been questioned by the authorities. The reporters wanted the public to believe that the moslim was innocent and being unfairly treated…but they presented no evidence to prove that was a fact.
And then there was the bush stuff Mr. Spencer wrote about. Americans were being told not to view moslims or even islam with a critical eye.
And because of all of this, islam and moslims have found soft ground in which to grow satan’s evil seeds. and of course, the creepy members of cair are taking full advantage. Even if it means using extortion.
Extortion is illegal. And if government reps use it against citizens, it is called “Under Color of Law.” It is a special Law just for such ones. “Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law.”
Perhaps the church could look into this. Consult a lawyer. Just how much pressure did these “reps” use against the church and its members?
Crusades Were Right says
‘Is Michigan Surrendering to Islam?’
Only the TENSE is questionable! lol
somehistory says
If the church has an attorney, he or she should look into whether or not cair or any of its members have donated campaign money to either of the reps. Perhaps it can be shown that these are acting on behalf of their donors and using their government offices to squelch the free speech of the church.
Recall that extortion is when force or threat of force is used to get a person to change policy, business practices, etc. Sometimes money is demanded, but not always The church is in the business of getting out the Truth in religious matters. It is the pastor’s job to preach about Jesus. If he feels that the best way to do this on this occasion was to have the exposure of islam and its evil, then that is part of his job.
The pressure from cair…and from the two reps’…to put a stop to this, is interfering with the pastor’s business. An attorney might find that this is extortion…if threats were made. Whether face to face, over the phone, etc. and if the “reps’ can be said to be interfering with the church business, and using their “office” then this is a violation of the Law about a government agent acting “Under Color of Law.”
This needs to be investigated. It might be more than just “pressure” from a bunch of moslim creeps. It might very well be extortion.
Naram-Sin says
Damn it! Now we’ll never know the answer to that question!
gravenimage says
OK–now *that* is funny!
Lydia Church says
I know, that’s what I say….
question: answered!
gfmucci says
Most churches are becoming more and more SPINELESS, e.g. lacking the faith needed to have courage to do and say the right things, including resenting TRUTH.
Lydia Church says
Yup. Only I think you meant to say ‘representing,’ not ‘resenting.’
: )
Lydia Church says
On an added note, this is part of the problem.
No one has the ballitos to stand up anymore for what is right!
Everyone is too busy worrying about what they have to lose.
But if they don’t stand up, they stand to lose it all, and that is a sure thing.
I’d rather lose it all while standing up for what is right, than lose it all for cowering to what is wrong.
If they gain the whole world for cowering under fear, they still lose their dignity and self respect and maybe even worse. That’s not the formula to win, but to lose.
That is what will cause the civilized world to crumble; spinelessness.
Not having the courage to stand up for what is right and what we value.
It brings up a good question: Do you deserve the right to retain what you don’t have the courage to defend?
For the weak, of course the answer is yes. But who is able to stand up? If no one does, it’s a giveaway.
There is a saying; Freedom isn’t free.
At times it takes boldness to maintain.
But everyone is locked into the prisons of their own comfort zones, and the dreaded fear of losing them.
With that mentality it is a certainty that they will.
Like I say over and over, no one can force you to do anything without your consent.
And it really is true.
They can only penalize you for noncompliance.
Yes, it does require boldness.
And that is exactly what we need, and most lack.
That pastor didn’t have to buckle under the threats.
No one does.
No one has to take any of this laying down, no matter the form of bullying and why.
You just find it in yourself to say “No!” and pick a way to fight it.
Even if it simply means dying for what you believe in.
But it must be done to win. Yes, win, not lose. It takes self sacrifice.
Even if it’s outright illegal civil disobedience.
Peter did it. Paul did it. All the apostles and early Christians did it.
Acts 5; 29.
The persecution of early Christians for not worshiping pagan gods.
It can be done.
It must be done.
By me, it will be done!
Lydia Church says
The early Christians had the boldness to stand up and say “No!”
I have the boldness to stand up and say “No!”
Do you?
If not, read this again with some dramatic classical music set to the background, and pray until you do!
; D
FYI says
Street preachers,empowered by God’s Holy Spirit…{something which allah indirectly tells muslims NOT to believe in in k4;171 “cease!Say not ‘three’.It is better for you”:it is better muslims do not know about God’s Wisdom..one of the ‘three’!}..are the only people who seem to preach the actual Gospel.They often get arrested{“Disturbing the peace”} and get attacked by naive ,silly “christians” in denial of reality.I admire street preachers,some who are even ex-muslims:amazing!
The mainstream churches{Catholic or protestant} don’t seem to..or else preach a watered down or wrong version{the prosperity gospel{God and mammon!},the gospel of wishful thinking,the gospel without the need to repent}the gospel of anything goes because God loves you no matter what{even if you don’t repent?Love is unconditional but salvation is conditional on repentance}
Christians of all denominations need to take seriously their mission,to preach the original Gospel empowered by God’s Holy Spirit.They need to read the prophetic teachings of Jesus{Matthew chpt 24,25 etc}If they ignore that?They are the ones referred to as the “foolish bridesmaids” in Matthew 25
Steve's nephew says
The rebuttal I have used when a Muslim client tried to shame me for pointing our a few flaws of his religion was to say “I don’t hate the Muslims, I disagree with them.” Then I went on for several minutes trying to make him doubt himself. I don’t think I succeeded, but he did not cut me off or suppress me.
Robert Anderson says
One Believer
May I offer some suggestions? Carefully read the Koran if you have not done so already. Then read a book
titled The End of America by author John Price. Next read Revelation chapter 18. I believe that the
Mystery Babylon mentioned there is us, The United States. It is very convincing.
Robert Anderson says
One more thing, there is a website – theendofamericabook.com
Peter WF says
Quote – “The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing.”
infidel says
The upcoming Canadian elections are a watershed point for that country where the votes of immigrants are skewing the elections big time. Canadians may be sadly be unable to vote in the party that they feel will work in the best interests of the nation. And this is what happens when a country immigrates people indiscriminately, esp Muslims, who skew the politics of the infidel land where they emigrate to with their toxic submarine sharia agenda….This is the same situation in many Islamic ghettos in India where nationalistic patriotic people are UNABLE to get elected and destroys the health of the democracy in those areas. Canada is headed sadly the same way…. How ironic it is that those that let in people in their lands with generosity are prevented by this very people whom they let in to elect the leaders that they want.
Angemon says
A cautionary tale for other countries.
infidel says
Multiculturalism was-is- and always will be an oxymoron.. It was the biggest failed experiment by the West..If U really needed skilled workers, U need to have given them just long term temp visas with no chance of immigration and pathway to citizenship. And I say this knowing many of my fellow Indians have immigrated over there in Canada. It has destroyed U in and out.. U would have done just fine even without the greatest of the greatest skilled immigrant… leave alone these Islamic refugee beasts.
AP says
A work visa is just another way the greedy try to make more money. Where were all of the brilliant immigrants when The United States landed a man on the moon. No where to be seen.
gravenimage says
Actually, there were German scientist immigrants who had a great deal to do with the space program. Not all immigration is bad–it depends on the values of the immigrants.
Old Fat Bald Socially Inept Ron says
Back in March when Brigitte Gabriel was our guest speaker at a little church in Winter Springs Fl, its Pastor was similarly contacted and threatened by CAIR to cancel the event.
Being a man of courage, the Pastor did not cave or cower, and the presentation went on without a hitch.
No Muzzies Here says
The two Democratic members of the House of Representatives from Michigan have just shown us that they have willingly pledged their allegiance to Islam, and not to the US Constitution.
E T says
Keep your guns America, NEVER give up your ?
Libertyphobic says
Just snail mailed letters to Andy and Debbie asking it they are stopping freedom of assembly and freedom of speech and asked what hate the church has done or intend to do, with a s.a.s.e–(they will not reply) also to pray for the conversion of islam (fat chance) Stealth jihad is here. Speak your mind if you dare,csn—–Be vigilant and keep a keen sword.
James Troutman says
Sadly, George Bush made a grave error when he equated Islam with peace, and by extension, equated Islam as a possible way to the true and living God. As a self-proclaimed, born again Christian, Bush should know there is one, and only one way, to the true and living God. That way is in and through the truth and the life who is Jesus Christ. No other way has ever been found, or ever will be found.
Islam, and all religion like it which seek a way to God on the basis of good works, is an outworking of Satan’s lie which he delivered to Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. Eat of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, you shall know good and evil, and you shall be as gods.
Satan’s lie caused the death of Adam and Eve and every human being born since them. We are all born dead and must be made alive by God’s Holy Spirit through faith alone, in Christ alone, by his grace alone. Find this teaching in Islam! Good luck!
The only true peace for any of us is found in Christ; the peace with God and the peace of God. It is the peace found in his promise to share in his eternal life with all who believe and trust him, and who rest in his finished work for our salvation. Show me this understanding in Islam! Good luck!
Too often I’m listening to people who claim to focus on political Islam as if that is where Islam falls short! At its core fundamentals, Islam is a Satanic death cult, hell-bent on depriving its enemies of life in this world and depriving its adherents of life in the next. We must get our heads screwed on straight and stop cowering before an enemy that Christ defeated 2000 years ago. That enemy is sin and death. In Christ there is truth and there is life! In Islam there is no Christ, therefore there is no truth and there is no life! Choose to live, now and forever, by the power of Christ’s resurrected life!
N huble says
HUGE mistake to cave like this !!!! Spineless & ignorant ! Most Baptists know their Bible better than this !
Rose says
I live in Michigan and work in Bloomfield Township where this church is. Not all of us here are surrendering to Islam! But we have an increasing presence of Muslims outside of Dearborn now. (It used to be that they only lived in Dearborn which is in the next county over from this church). There’s a spiritual war going on here. Please pray for us! Not everyone wants to surrender, but we need to know the best way to combat this.