Writing about 9/11 this morning, I wrote: “The jihad threat can emanate from anywhere the Qur’an and Sunnah are preached and believed. But saying that in America eighteen years after 9/11 won’t result in any public consternation or calls for the monitoring of mosques; it will only get you defamed as a ‘racist’ and an ‘Islamophobe,’ to be dismissed and shunned by all decent people. Meanwhile, one imam in Georgia recently stated: ‘There has not been another 9/11-such attack in America because Islam is winning.'”
And here we are. CAIR is an unindicted co-conspirator in a Hamas terror funding case — so named by the Justice Department. CAIR officials have repeatedly refused to denounce Hamas and Hizballah as terrorist groups. Several former CAIR officials have been convicted of various crimes related to jihad terror. CAIR’s cofounder and longtime Board chairman (Omar Ahmad), as well as its chief spokesman (Ibrahim Hooper), have made Islamic supremacist statements about how Islamic law should be imposed in the U.S. (Ahmad denies this, but the original reporter stands by her story.) CAIR chapters frequently distribute pamphlets telling Muslims not to cooperate with law enforcement. CAIR has opposed virtually every anti-terror measure that has been proposed or implemented and has been declared a terror organization by the United Arab Emirates. CAIR’s Hussam Ayloush in 2017 called for the overthrow of the U.S. government. CAIR’s national outreach manager is an open supporter of Hamas. Its research director has endorsed a jihad-supporting charity.
That such a group would receive mainstream support while an event such as this one is condemned is a sign of how far we are from properly addressing what happened on September 11, 2001.
“Church cancels 9/11 event under pressure from CAIR,” WND, September 10, 2019:
A Michigan church canceled a 9/11 event critical of the interfaith movement and Islamic supremacism after complaints from the Council on American-Islamic Relations and politicians.
Bloomfield Hills Baptist Church was to host a two-day event called “9/11 forgotten? Is Michigan surrendering to Islam?” on Wednesday and Thursday.
A former Muslim who has become a popular speaker, Shahram Hadian, was to speak Wednesday on “How the Interfaith Movement is Sabotaging America and the Church.” And on Thursday, Jim Simpson, a former Office of Management and Budget economist to three presidents and an investigative reporter, was to speak on “How Islam is Destroying America from Within.”
The event was planned by a group called the Detroit Coalition for Freedom.
In response to the cancelation [sic], the organization United West will feature the two speakers in a webinar on Wednesday at 7 p.m. Eastern time that can be viewed online through registration.
‘We don’t hate Muslims’
Last week, the Baptist church’s pastor, Donald McKay, defended the event in an interview with WJBK-TV.
“Islam is a growing threat in the United States of America,” he said. “We don’t hate Muslims, we hate the ideology they are identified with.
Hadian said on his website that his Sept. 11 discussion would “expose the growing deception of interfaith dialogue” and “explain how interfaith ‘dialogue’ is compromising the Gospel & our national security.”
But the Council on American-Islamic Relations along with members of Congress and state representatives pressed the church to cancel the event, and its elders complied.
The executive director of CAIR’s Michigan chapter, Dawud Walid, cast the event’s message as “anti-Muslim bigotry.”
“Though we believe that houses of worship have the right to preach their doctrine, we find it incredibly irresponsible for a church to invite someone who has the objective of spewing clear anti-Muslim bigotry,” Walid told the Detroit Free Press.
CAIR has been shown in court to be a front for the terrorist organization Hamas, the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood. It was designated by the State Department as an unindicted co-conspirator in a scheme to fund Hamas. And the United Arab Emirates in 2014 listed CAIR as one of 83 banned terrorist organizations, along with the Taliban, al-Qaida and ISIS.
‘Toxic and bigoted events’
Prior to the Bloomfield church’s cancelation of the event, two member of Congress from Michigan, Democratic Reps. Andy Levin and Debbie Dingell, said in a joint statement there is “no place for hate in Metro Detroit, in Michigan or anywhere in the United States.”
“We implore the Bloomfield Baptist Church to forgo the anti-Muslim events planned for next week and instead recognize America’s rich cultural and religious diversity as we reflect on one of the most painful days in our country’s history and heal from recent acts of white supremacist violence,” Levin and Dingell said….
Emilie Green says
“Bloomfield Hills Baptist Church was to host a two-day event called ‘9/11 forgotten? Is Michigan surrendering to Islam?’”
Then the church canceled its own event.
Well, the church answered its own question, didn’t it?
AnneM04031959 says
Please see my previous posting.
Jaladhi says
Yes but do the church leaders recognize it??
mortimer says
Well seen, Emilie. They indeed answered the question by surrendering to Hamas intimidation.
For all we know, there may have been threats made. Many churches are discussion Islam but do so more diplomatically and they discuss the same things.
Spiro says
I don’t know about Michigan but the church has surrendered
Next they’ll invite a iman to indoctrinate in the whole flock
Just for inclusiveness
First says
We lost, The moment we legalized abortion. Governments awakes need funds, as the population numbers are dropping so does the revenue. Immigration is the only solution. Thank feminism.
gravenimage says
I’m afraid they did answer it…
AnneM04031959 says
Translation: “Do as we say and you will not get hurt”..
Jaladhi says
Muslims can’t bear truth about them and Islam coming out or why would CAIR oppose any such discussion. I think Michigan has already surrendered to Islam so why have this discussion!
Frances Todd says
Amen and Amen!!
mortimer says
THIRTEEN TYPES OF JIHAD … JIHAD IS OBLIGATORY FOR ALL MUSLIMS …
Bloomfield Hills Baptist Church was subjected to ONLY ONE TYPE OF JIHAD …
From a fatwa issued by Sheikh M. S. Al-Munajjid, a prominent Saudi Islamic lecturer and author:
“First, jihad is of various kinds, some of which are obligatory upon everyone who is accountable, and some are obligatory upon the community as a whole, i.e., if some people undertake them then the rest are relieved of the obligation. And some kinds of jihad are mustahabb (recommended).
Jihad an-nafs (jihad against one’s self) and jihad ash-Shaytan (jihad against Satan) are obligatory upon everyone who is accountable. Jihad against the munafiqin (hypocrites), kuffar (disbelievers) and leaders of oppression and innovation is obligatory upon the community as a whole. Physical jihad (i.e., fighting) against the kuffar may become an individual obligation upon everyone who is able to do it in certain circumstances, which will be described below.
Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allah have mercy on him) said: Once this is understood, then jihad is of four kinds: jihad an-nafs (jihad against one’s self), jihad ash-Shaytan (jihad against Satan), jihad against the kuffar and jihad against the hypocrites.
1. Jihad an-nafs (jihad against one’s self) is of four kinds:
a. Striving to learn the teachings of Islam without which one cannot attain success and happiness in this world or in the Hereafter. If this is missing, then one is doomed to misery in this world and in the Hereafter.
b. Striving to make oneself act in accordance with what one has learned. Simply knowing without acting, even though it may not cause any harm, is not going to bring any benefit.
c. Striving to call others to Islam, teaching those who do not know about it. Otherwise one will be one of those who conceal the guidance and teaching that Allah has revealed, and it will not benefit him or save him from the punishment of Allah.
d. Striving to bear patiently the difficulties involved in calling people to Allah and the insults of people, bearing all that for the sake of Allah.
If a person achieves all these four levels, then he will be one of the rabbaniyyin (learned men of religion who practice what they know and also preach to others. [see Al `Imran: 79]). The salaf (righteous predecesors) were agreed that the scholar does not deserve to be called a rabbani unless he knows the truth, acts in accordance with it, and teaches it to others. Whoever teaches, acts in accordance with his knowledge, and has knowledge will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
2.Jihad ash-Shaytan (jihad against Satan) is of two types:
a. Warding off the doubts that Satan stirs up to undermine faith.
b. Striving against Satan to ward off the corrupt desires that he provokes.
The first jihad is followed by certainty of faith, and the second is followed by patience. Allah says: “And We made from among them [Children of Israel], leaders, giving guidance under Our Command, when they were patient and used to believe with certainty in Our Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.)” (As-Sajdah: 24)
Allah tells us that leadership in religion is attained through patience and certainty of faith. Patience wards off desires and certainty wards off doubts.
3. Jihad against the munafiqin (hypocrites) and kuffar (disbelievers) is of four kinds: with the heart, the tongue, one’s wealth and oneself. Jihad against the disbelievers is more along the lines of physical fighting, whereas jihad against the hypocrites is more along the lines of using words and ideas.
4. Jihad against the leaders of oppression and innovation is of three kinds: jihad with one’s hand (i.e., physical jihad, fighting) if one is able. If that is not possible, then it should be with one’s tongue (i.e., by speaking out). If that is not possible, then it should be with one’s heart (i.e., by hating the evil and feeling that it is wrong).
These are the THIRTEEN TYPES OF JIHAD, and “Whoever dies without having fought or having resolved to fight has died following one of the branches of hypocrisy.” (Reported by Muslim). (Zad al-Ma`ad, 3/9-11)
mortimer says
No matter how well-meaning, Pastor Donald Key used undiplomatic language easily misunderstood by the uninformed when he said, ” “We don’t hate Muslims, we hate the ideology they are identified with.” The word ‘hate’ is a trigger word for the Leftards … as soon as they see that word, whatever follows will not be heeded. The Leftards only allow themselves to hate … no one else may do so.
I would therefore encourage people to use the language of former Al Azhar history teacher Dr. Mark Gabriel (PhD): “Muslims wish to be good people … but they don’t have the right information.” If Pastor Key had said something like that, there would have been little controversy.
I recommend that people who discuss Islam respond to concerns raised in a similar manner to this:
‘We want to inform ourselves about the political ideology of Islam which is causing armed conflicts around the world, and learn how Christians should respond to this supremacist teaching that is persecuting Christians in many countries. Christians are being attacked, maimed and killed by Muslim supremacists in various countries around the world every day of the year. There are thousands of jihad attacks every year. It is a real… not an imaginary problem.”
The only thing the Left cares about is victimization. It is therefore wise to speak to the Left about the victimization of Christians worldwide by fanatical jihadists. All the Left can understand is the ‘victimization’ language.
vyx says
In terms of language, I respectfully disagree. No matter what the pastor said or how he would have said it, there would have been an outcry. There is a saying: “See who you cannot criticize; that is who rules you.” In many ways, the US is ruled by islam, since you cannot criticize it.
And yes, Michigan has surrendered to Islam. There are arabic grocery stores everywhere, arabic restaurants, halal meat at the grocery store and more and more mosques, even though the locals don’t want them. Even in areas that are not filled with muslims, you will see women in the hijab as well as the ones in a black burka.
Anecdotally, Bloomfield Hills is one of the wealthiest cities of Metro Detroit; Bob Seger and the late Aretha Franklin used to have homes there.
Terry Gain says
The Muslim President decreed that “the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam”. So surrender is the order of the day until America has enough people willing to tell the truth about Muhammad and his conquest ideology. And Obama
gravenimage says
Grimly true, Terry.
FYI says
Speaking of surrendering to islam and naive “christians”..
Mr Bergoglio{or “pope” francis}just recently made the extraordinary and astonishing statement in response to protests by US catholics,that “He is not afraid of schism”..
frankie is “Not afraid of schism”:No true pope would ever say that!
frankie: the man who lives behind high walls whilst complaining about people who need to build walls to protect their countries.
frankie:the CEO of an immensely wealthy organisation.. yet brags about his great love of the poor
frankie the heretical leftie jesuit marxist hypocrite.He’s “not afraid of schism”:proof positive that he is a false pope.
frankie the pro-islam,pro-globalist,pro-mass islamic immigration apologist for the power elites,
libertyORdeath says
Maybe he really is the last pope as prophesied
FYI says
Here are two very interesting statements,one from francis and another from a critic of francis{condemning him for covering up the cardinal mccarrick case}
“It is a mistake for the church to hold onto old traditions
or to have answers to everything”
pope francis
{Mistake?What made catholicism strong in the past was holding on to traditions and having moral guidance to everything:thus we see a pope who shows moral relatavism and who represents the utter catastrophe of vatican 2}
“We are in a truly dark moment for the universal church.
The supreme pontiff is now blatantly lying to cover up his wicked deeds”
Archbishop carlo maria Vigano
Very strong words indeed!
The “Dark moment” in the Catholic church today is caused by francis and his henchmen running the church constructing a catholic church in their own image..
Jedothek says
‘The executive director of CAIR’s Michigan chapter, Dawud Walid, cast the event’s message as “anti-Muslim bigotry.” ‘
People often fail to distinguish between bigotry and prejudice on the one hand and informed disagreement on the other. There is a world of difference between saying “I don’t like those Muslims because i don’t like those Muslims” and (on the other hand) reading some of the Quran and saying why you disagree with it.
Joe says
Yes, a bigot is someone who only tolerates a personal opinion, such as CAIR. They exactly meet the definition of bigots.
Christopher Kelley says
CAIR, & its local spokesman, have coordinated in a Blatant & Shameless Assault on the First Amendment. Its sole purpose is to “deplatform” a former Muslim – an Apostate – as a way of “killing” him. And this Baptist church has folded, wilted, under this blast of hot air from hell.
They should immediately reinstate their program – which will now take months to reassemble, and will lose the connection to 9/11 that was intended.
The two MI congress members should be publicly shamed.
In islam, there is, of course, no shame. It operates on a completely different plane, because its author wants all its adherents in hell with him.
Muh’d (POX be upon him!) died while confessing that he was a false prophet. The evidence is right there in the qur’an and in the earliest Arabic bio-s of him, but you have to know to flip the pages! His last words were to curse all mohammedans — who would build a shrine over his corpse. But do they know that?
And to top it off, the Hajj goes to the Wrong Place! (Ask a muslim if they know that!)
{See YouTube, “The Holy City of Mecca: Do We Have It in the Wrong Place?”} Perhaps it will chip away at the wall of ignorance with which they surround themselves.
Christopher Kelley says
Those two MI Congress members should not be re-elected, either!
somehistory says
The moslim creep said, “Though we believe that houses of worship have the right to preach their doctrine,”
and by this he meant: moslims have the “right to preach their doctrine.” Because moslims only see their barracks as “houses of worship.”
This is clear in the rest of his statement: “find it incredibly irresponsible for a church to invite someone who has the objective of spewing clear anti-Muslim bigotry,”
And the two “reps” have fallen right in with the moslim party line, shown by this part of their statement:
“recognize America’s rich cultural and religious diversity as we reflect on one of the most painful days in our country’s history and heal from recent acts of white supremacist violence,”
The only thing these two creepy “reps” are **afraid* of is the thing that barely exists…White people acting superior in a violent way. They’ve given in to the moslims acting superior in a violent way, and are helping cair intimidate the members of the church.
As someone said above, the church has answered its question. At least, the ‘reps” have and are allowing the real troublemakers to shut down any warnings.
GreekEmpress says
+1
I wish the Democratic Reps in MIchigan were as interested in stopping the hate that is spewed in the mosques in their state. Such hypocrisy.
PS. I tried three times to contact the church to respectfully make a comment—nobody is answering the phone.
somehistory says
Me. too. (wish that is).
I’m not surprised they are not answering their phone. Can’t be good no matter who is calling….those who wanted the talks will be disappointed…and moslims might just be “spewing hate” directly at them over the phone.
Keys says
No doubt CAIR had a “call campaign”.
The “church” may have gotten threats of violence and decided to just quietly cancel to protect their own. CAIR may have encouraged this, like “Friday Prayers” sometimes stokes violence.
Evil machinations.
somehistory says
No doubt. cair is all underhanded and lawless, devious and demonic.
libertyORdeath says
Only antisemitic and anti Christian doctrines are allowed to be preached with impunity.
Michael Copeland says
Democratic Reps. Andy Levin and Debbie Dingell, said in a joint statement there is “no place for hate in Metro Detroit…..”
Memo to the two Reps.:
“Battle, animosity and hatred, directed from the Muslim to the infidel, is the foundation of our religion. And we consider this a justice and kindness to them.”
Osama bin Laden
https://www.meforum.org/2095/islams-doctrines-of-deception
“Muslims in the West must have an attitude of enmity & hatred of the kaffirs” – http://www.islamqa.com
“You must love the muslims and hate the kuffaar” – http://www.muslimsagainstvoting
James Lincoln says
Hopefully, Shahram Hadian’s “How the Interfaith Movement is Sabotaging America and the Church” and Jim Simpson’s, “How Islam is Destroying America from Within” will be available on YouTube…
James Lincoln says
It is often mentioned that CAIR is an “unindicted co-conspirator in a Hamas terror funding case.”
I get the fact that CAIR is a front group for the Muslim brotherhood, I’m just not sure of the term “unindicted”.
Does that mean that CAIR was never formally charged in the Hamas terror funding case? If not, why not?
is there an attorney out there who can clear this up for me?
somehistory says
I’m not an attorney (my son is) and never played one on tv,
however, I have studied Law. The evidence was there to indict them…which would mean charging them with the crimes with which the others were charged. And, they would have been, according to all that I have read about the case, if ‘o’ had not stopped it from going forward.
James Lincoln says
Much thanks, somehistory.
somehistory says
You are more than welcome, James.
MTMLA says
“O” means the previous president?
MB members were his advisers in the WH.
Karen says
Yes the judge in the first case ( in which five members of the mb were found guilty of using the the holy land foundation charity to send money to hamas 2007) declined to remove cairs name as a co conspirator to indite them because there was plenty of evidence to indite and to try them. But by this time 2009 the Obama justice department took over and killed any further prosecutions.
MTMLA says
Maybe Trump and his DOJ should look into it again.CAIR has too much power to boss people around and apply muslim blasphemy laws.
gravenimage says
Michigan church cancels “Is Michigan surrendering to Islam?” event under pressure from Hamas-linked CAIR
…………………
Sadly, that they even tried to hold this event in the first place is a brave thing in these times.
Battle says
Detroit Coalation For Freedom and Bloomfield Hills Baptist Church Donald McCay Pastor need to tell CAIR Dawud Walid to cease his own hypocrisy, bigotry and false accusation. Then tell him to convert to Christianity.
Pastor McCay should say the same to Congress Democrat Reps Andy Levin and Debbie Dingell. (Unless either or both are Jewish then converting from the god Political Correctness to Judaism will do.)
Then, hire security and reschedule the event.
Battle says
There is no god but Mohammad, and Allah is his messenger. –Anjuli Pandavar
sidney penny says
“Islam is a growing threat in the United States of America,” he said. “We don’t hate Muslims, we hate the ideology they are identified with.”
Similiar to what historian Koenraad Elst says.”The problem is not muslims but Islam.”
fredoniahead says
Typical weak Churchianity.
The minute some damn politician deployed the overused and cliche “hate” that is when they should’ve doubled down.. I’d be ashamed to be that weak and pathetic. A few words is all it takes to cancel. Wow…what could they get out of them if they really threatened?. The deeds to their houses?
gravenimage says
At least they planned the event. How many churches would do that in the first place? Really sad.
E T says
Remember the term “tough love”, a term that meant the parent was in charge and the children needed to respect their parents values and do as they were told.
Every country in the world, everyone who believes in freendom, needs to start NOW practicing tough love. Stand up to politicians who are promoting Globalism, tell them “We’re not going to take it anymore.”
To hell with all the Imams, The Muslim Brotherhood hoods, the Hollywood stars, the left loons in the media, the collaborating politicians. Push back, don’t skirt around the issue of Islam taking over. If the people of a country just let all this Islamic bull shit slide, they win. My God is this 2019, a year when everyone is supposed to be so informed or are we more like the 1930s?
Let’s look at Canada and the up coming election. Yesterday, the first day of the actual election race, CBC and CTV covered all the leaders, their initial speeches, their pitch for votes. Did anyone see Max Bernier being interviewed? Was there any mention of the PPC party, did any news CLOWNS refer to Bernier without a stupid smirk on their face? Will Max Bernier be allowed to debate—we are still waiting for the Liberals to let us know. Of all the leaders who is the only REAL LEADER who is talking about cutting migration numbers and seems to be very aware of The Muslim’s plan to Islamize Canada. Why is he being silenced, why are the other parties not bowing to democracy and insisting Bernier has the right to be heard?
Ask your candidate about M-103, ask them about the global migration pact, ask them about “climate change” and do try to keep a straight face when asking that sky is falling question—should Canada be in the Paris ACcord? Ask them about the Muslim Brotherhood hoods infiltration in Canada. TELL them, to read Tom Quiggan’s report if they want to know what is going on in this country.
Does anyone remember, singing “Stand up, stand up for Jesus? Please think long and hard about the oppression of Islam and do you want your family members to walk around dressed like every day is Halloween?
Angemon says
“That’s a nice church and community you have there. It would be a shame if people were to think you’re a bunch of racists and bigots…”
gravenimage says
Yep.
Kerry Wade says
The church everywhere has ceased to be counter cultural, it detached from its roots a long time ago and has become a congregation if immature pastor worshippers. I note the present Pope is causing a schism within Catholicism and has received criticism from its conservative elements, but I doubt it will ever recover from its ever present paedophile crimes. I see many Christians living outside the culture of churchianity but merely engrossed in pointless social gatherings.
Lydia Church says
Since when does a muslim organization get a say in what is spoken about inside a church?
Or the government, or anyone else for that matter?
By this censorship, they have proven in fact that islam already does control Michigan, and much more!
The: ‘Toxic and bigoted events’ are the ant-anti-muslim movements like this censorship!
“Prior to the Bloomfield church’s cancelation of the event, two member of Congress from Michigan, Democratic Reps. Andy Levin and Debbie Dingell, said in a joint statement there is “no place for hate in Metro Detroit, in Michigan or anywhere in the United States.” “…. oh sure, except for the hatred of Christians and those who oppose jihad terrorism!
“We implore the Bloomfield Baptist Church to forgo the anti-Muslim events planned for next week and instead recognize America’s rich cultural and religious diversity as we reflect on one of the most painful days in our country’s history and heal from recent acts of white supremacist violence,” Levin and Dingell said….” Uh, no, we don’t have a problem with ‘white supremacist violence’, that is only the false narrative and most of those have been staged events. What we need to focus on during 9/11 is the jihad terrorism that murdered at least 3,000 innocent victims on 9/11, because that’s the ‘something that happened,’ and the ‘someone’ who did it!
And this is clear bullying by pro muslim groups.
Lydia Church says
I have also come across some interesting information many years ago about how certain groups take someone, brainwash them, and send them off to be a sniper. Then they can push their agendas, like ‘gun control’ or ‘white supremacy is a threat’, etc. If it wasn’t for the leftist groups, nothing would even have happened. The same thing with many events in the world. These secret societies create a problem or make it worse, then swoosh in with ‘the solution,’ and in the process they take total control. It’s just a takeover using ‘order from chaos,’ another one of their terms.
underbed cat says
Churches don’t get what Islam is and unnamed “some people” want just that, our silence. The influence has been effectively deceptive to aid our conquest. I agree Lydia Church….I also read a similar article, create chaos, hate towards each other in a the population, chaos is draining, then the chaos operators shut down the chaos they created to destroy Trump, and blamed him, and say they can restore calm and take over total control they have created and funded. Yep. I swear they are operating to create chaos in markets.
Crusades Were Right says
Michigan church cancels “Is Michigan surrendering to Islam?”
Well, at least we got the answer to the question!
The Political Oracle says
As I have said time and time again, religion is a social weapon used to modify behavior. No matter which religion it is! Our communities and young children and young adults must be taught the truth about religion. They must be informed about what religion is and what religion is not.