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Australia: High court upholds convictions of three Muslims for female genital mutilation

Oct 22, 2019 11:00 am By Robert Spencer

FGM is mandated in Islamic law: “Circumcision is obligatory (for every male and female) (by cutting off the piece of skin on the glans of the penis of the male, but circumcision of the female is by cutting out the bazr ‘clitoris’ [this is called khufaadh ‘female circumcision’]).” — Umdat al-Salik e4.3, translated by Mark Durie, The Third Choice, p. 64

Why is it obligatory? Because Muhammad is held to have said so: “Abu al- Malih ibn Usama’s father relates that the Prophet said: ‘Circumcision is a law for men and a preservation of honour for women.’” — Ahmad Ibn Hanbal 5:75

“Narrated Umm Atiyyah al-Ansariyyah: A woman used to perform circumcision in Medina. The Prophet (peace be upon him) said to her: ‘Do not cut severely as that is better for a woman and more desirable for a husband.’” — Abu Dawud 41:5251

That hadith is classified as weak, but this one is classified as sahih (reliable): “Aishah narrated: ‘When the circumcised meets the circumcised, then indeed Ghusl is required. Myself and Allah’s Messenger did that, so we performed Ghusl.’” — Jami` at-Tirmidhi 108

If Muhammad had the genitals of his favorite wife, Aisha, mutilated, that is a strong endorsement of the practice from the man who is an “excellent example” (Qur’an 33:21) for Muslims.

Why does it matter whether or not FGM is Islamic? Because the practice will never be eradicated if its root causes are not confronted. As long as those Muslims continue to believe that Allah and Muhammad want it done, for some that will override all other considerations.

“NSW genital mutilation convictions stand,” by Hannah Higgins, AAP, October 16, 2019:

The convictions of three people for female genital mutilation in NSW will stand after Australia’s highest court ruled the practice is illegal in all its various forms.

The ruling comes four years after the trio was convicted by a jury of the FGM of two primary school-aged sisters in two separate ceremonies the occurred between October 2009 and 2012.

The two girls’ mother, who cannot be named for legal reasons, and midwife Kubra Magennis were each handed a minimum 11-month custodial sentence, to be served by way of home detention, in 2016 after they were found guilty of “mutilating the clitoris” of the girls.

Dawoodi Bohra sect community leader Shabbir Mohammedbhai Vaziri was also found guilty of being an accessory to the girl’s mutilation and was also sentenced to a minimum of 11 months’ imprisonment.

The two sisters suffered through ceremonies known as “khatna” which the High Court says involves causing injury to a young girl’s clitoris by cutting or nicking it.

Charges were laid after the girls told a female police officer and a social worker they had been subjected to “khatna”.

The mother and Magennis admitted they were present in a room with the girls for a “symbolic ceremony” – however they say the ceremony involved Magennis placing forceps on the girls’ vulva’s, not clitorises, without cutting them.

But in an electronically recorded interview with police, the elder girl described the tool used on her as something that “looked a bit like scissors”….

“My mum tells me not to go around telling everyone (about it) much,” she told investigators.

Covertly recorded evidence caught the mother admonishing her daughters following their interviews with police for revealing “a big secret”….

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Filed Under: Australia, female genital mutilation Tagged With: Dawoodi Bohra, Kubra Magennis, Shabbir Mohammedbhai Vaziri


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  1. james wheeler (@jamieswheels) says

    Oct 22, 2019 at 11:18 am

    Thank god Australia’s judiciary has STOOD UP.!!

  2. Leonard Marino, MD, FAAP, LVT says

    Oct 22, 2019 at 11:22 am

    Trouble is that male genital mutilation is practised by many, including clueless Christians, Jews and Muslims- – and criticised by few. Note that animals, especially valuable horses and breeding bulls are left intact. A bit of soap and water will keep the area clean. AIDS has more to do with where the phallus is inserted than the presence of a protective sheath.

    • Just a Concerned Citizen says

      Oct 23, 2019 at 3:12 am

      Indeed so. And since you will not find any society in the world that puts their daughters under the knife but not their sons, it’s counterproductive to condemn the cutting of one gender while tolerating the other. So long as we do, there will always remain those who will cut both.

    • Lulu says

      Oct 23, 2019 at 11:55 am

      BUT, when circumcising the male, he doesn’t lose the ability to have total sexual pleasure, whereas the woman will never be able to reach climax or orgasm because they remove, the clitoris and sometimes even the vulva, that is their point of FGM! They don’t want them to have ANY pleasure when having sex. Then they may “stitch” her up to be unable to accommodate a penis! But, of course, the men force the penis causing great pain to the woman. Their goats are more important to them than their women! That is also why they have to cover their whole body, face included! DISGUSTING practice!

      • gravenimage says

        Oct 25, 2019 at 1:10 am

        Exactly, Lulus.

    • Carol the 1st says

      Oct 23, 2019 at 6:58 pm

      Early circumcision of boys is believed to be protective of their future health and so long as it does no psychological harm there is likely no compelling argument against it. Once these babies become children or men they become too afraid and protective of their privates and this measure is therefore NOT taken. Dr. Marino (our pediatrician/vet??) has the right to argue for males as he likes but to conflate this with what’s done to baby girls and their physical and emotional futures is absurd and suspicious. They say many women in the past have been subjected to unnecessary breast removals and hysterectomies at the discretion of male doctors whose main motivation wasn’t necessarily lack of knowledge or greed but a deep-seated urge to take power away from females. There are none so blind as he who will not see.

      • gravenimage says

        Oct 25, 2019 at 1:11 am

        Agreed.

  3. Trick_or_Treat says

    Oct 22, 2019 at 11:41 am

    We do not stand for this barbaric shit in Australia, it is criminal. If it is ‘obligatory’ to your animal customs then what are you doing here, piss off back to one of your backward islamic shit holes where you can practice this degenerate heathen behavior. This is Australia, we have a higher civilised level of society, and we have a higher level of civilised laws, you will be charged and jailed if you start engaging in that level of behavior here. Such audacity and hide that any perpetrators would seek to try and appeal in the first place.

    • Stan Lore says

      Oct 22, 2019 at 2:31 pm

      I can tell you are ambivalent about FGM. Otherwise you would speak vociferously against the barbaric practice. Ok. Just kidding. Well said. Totally agree with the substance and passion of your statement!!

    • elee says

      Oct 22, 2019 at 3:18 pm

      Applause

    • tim gallagher says

      Oct 22, 2019 at 5:09 pm

      I agree, Trick_or_Treat. There is so much in Islam (not just this FGM but also endless other totally barbaric crap) which should lead to banning any Muslim migration into any non-Muslim countries. Islam stomps all over basic human rights in so many ways. Of course, FGM isn’t accepted, but some of the crap in Islam that is accepted as being just part of multiculturalism is disgusting (women getting around totally covered up in tent-like clothing being one example). None of it belongs in our civilised countries. It’s a very weird situation where we have complete barbarians (I mean, look at the Muslim man in the photo in this report – hey, this is the 21st century, you backward clown!!) living right next to us in our western countries these days. Islam, and all its garbage, should be kept out. No way does it belong.

      • gravenimage says

        Oct 25, 2019 at 1:14 am

        So true, Tim.

  4. Tom Halvey says

    Oct 22, 2019 at 11:41 am

    Jail term and deportation with a life ban on ever returning for each and everyone of them

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 25, 2019 at 1:14 am

      Sounds good to me.

  5. mortimer says

    Oct 22, 2019 at 12:10 pm

    FGM is a requirement according to Mohammed and Sharia law. The law against FGM should be strictly enforced.

    • Carol the 1st says

      Oct 23, 2019 at 7:03 pm

      And with far more than snuggling up at home for eleven months. Many of us would thoroughly enjoy that.

  6. Beneath the Veil of Consciousness says

    Oct 22, 2019 at 12:44 pm

    Outlawing the practice of traditional islam?
    What’s next, outlawing the murder of infidels and apostates? What a world!

    • elee says

      Oct 22, 2019 at 3:21 pm

      Right. Islamophobia! Discrimination! Nobody messes with Christians when they turn the other cheek and love their neighbour. But let a Muslim just follow his scriptures for a single kafir murder and theyre all outraged! Could there be any clearer demonstration of white man kufr?

  7. Rarely says

    Oct 22, 2019 at 12:57 pm

    FGM is much easier than teaching morals, ethics and self-control….especially if “morals”, “ethics” and “self-control” don’t even exist in your dictionary. For men, of course, morals, ethics and self-control are totally unnecessary, being the superior and perfect beings that men are..

  8. infidel says

    Oct 22, 2019 at 1:00 pm

    Look at the face of this animal.. and he is supposed to be from the so called moderate Baura community. What a barbaric creature.!!!

  9. Mario Alexis Portella says

    Oct 22, 2019 at 1:43 pm

    The bastards should be mutilated themselves! Let’s see if they would uphold their sharia crap.

  10. European pagan says

    Oct 22, 2019 at 2:50 pm

    I saw an african movie about FGM, this cruel horrible bullsh.t is not in the Quran or Bible. An african christian (!) told me that his wife had FGM too… I would send everyone who do this for long years into prison.

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 25, 2019 at 1:20 am

      Yes, there are, disgustingly, some Christians and animists who practice FGM. But it is only Muslims who do so on religious grounds.

      FGM may not be in the Qur’an, but the Sahih Hadiths are full of it. Islamic clerics regularly defend it.

      Also, the practice is dropping fast among non-Muslims.

  11. elee says

    Oct 22, 2019 at 3:25 pm

    House arrest! Whos watching her house? How many baby women will she mutilate j while nominally serving her sentence? Hey libbers, anybody interested? Didnt think so. l

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 25, 2019 at 1:20 am

      I believe in equal rights for women, and I oppose this barbarism.

  12. Walter Sieruk says

    Oct 22, 2019 at 4:58 pm

    This cruel, brutal and vicious Islamic tradition of female butchery which some Muslims so inappropriately call “female circumcision’ has spread like an infectious disease , or a plague , even to Australia. This heinous Islamic custom of misogyny has been exposed in the book by Brigitte Gabriel which is entitled THEY MUST BE STOPPED. For on page 178 it reveals to the reader that “One of the most devastating practices to young girls of the Islamic world is female genital mutilation. Young girls have their clitoris removed without anesthesia…”

    Indeed, they must be stopped !

  13. Ole Pederson says

    Oct 22, 2019 at 5:06 pm

    Eleven months? Maybe even early parole? That should read eleven years, minimum!

    The girls will suffer their entire lives.

  14. joanofark06 says

    Oct 23, 2019 at 4:23 am

    Wonder if there’s any NON-muslim country, where there are not, MANY muslims! Or have they taken over all of them??

  15. Peggy says

    Oct 23, 2019 at 4:50 am

    The two girls’ mother, who cannot be named for legal reasons, and midwife Kubra Magennis were each handed a minimum 11-month custodial sentence, to be served by way of home detention
    ==================
    So then what happens to the girls? They are left in the house with a very pissed off mother. Is anyone making sure they are not being punished all the time? How do you leave a child with the very person who was found guilty of abusing this child?

  16. Angemon says

    Oct 23, 2019 at 5:04 am

    The convictions of three people for female genital mutilation in NSW will stand after Australia’s highest court ruled the practice is illegal in all its various forms.

    Good – now, to give the apologists of FGM, who defended it to the highest court of Australia, the public despising they rightly deserve…

  17. Michael says

    Oct 23, 2019 at 5:12 am

    Though FGM is totally, totally wrong. What tops this off the judge only gives min 11mths. Under Aussie law if you get under 12mts you can’t be deported, this is just as bigger crime then FGM.

    • Carol the 1st says

      Oct 23, 2019 at 7:18 pm

      That is weak tolerance for what happens to a helpless baby under our watch and it ends up reflecting upon us and our culture. The camel needs to be told what the laws are before he’s allowed to put his nose under another culture’s tent. Period.

  18. Valkyrie Ziege says

    Oct 24, 2019 at 12:36 am

    ; Interesting how religions have such a tough time
    keeping their hands off of children, and children’s genitals.

  19. SweetLadyMary says

    Oct 24, 2019 at 2:35 am

    Savages with savage customs.

  20. TattooedMan77 says

    Oct 24, 2019 at 9:07 am

    In Britain there has only been one criminal prosecution for FGM. Despite the evidence clearly being evident in any medical checks that the girl would receive in her life. No wonder so many “ethnics” are Doctors.
    It pays for Baby Aisha to go to Dr Mohammed rather than one of those kaffir Nurses who might on examination deduce that the vagina has been cut with a Baked Bean tin lid and stitched with fish wire.

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 25, 2019 at 1:24 am

      Yes–and that prosecution was for an Infidel doctor who re-stitched up a Somali Muslim woman after she gave birth because she begged him to, saying she would be “Honor Killed” otherwise. Britain has never prosecuted anyone actually performing FGM.

  21. gravenimage says

    Oct 25, 2019 at 12:27 am

    Australia: High court upholds convictions of three Muslims for female genital mutilation
    ………………

    *Good*.

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