French Interior Minister Christophe Castaner’s recent revelation, discussed in the last hour, that “60 attacks have been foiled since 2013 and every week people are arrested,” recalled some statements of his predecessor Gérard Collomb, who is now mayor of Lyon, and who knows as much as anyone about France’s internal security situation. Collomb gave an interview in February 2018 which was only published in November of that year. Here is an excerpt:
In your heart of hearts, how do you judge the security situation in France?
Collomb: It’s very worrying. What I read every morning in notes from the police reflects a very pessimistic situation. The relations between people are very hard, people don’t want to live together…
To what extent is immigration responsible for this?
Collomb: Enormously so. It’s for that reason that, with Emmanuel Macron, we wanted to change the law…
Your law only attacks illegal immigration. Legal immigration allows more than 200,000 people into the country each year…
Collomb: It’s true. We’re doing it bit by bit. But that remains a problem…
You think there is no more need for immigration in France?
Collomb: “Yes, absolutely.
You were speaking of vivre ensemble [living together] just now. What is happening?
Collomb: Communities in France are engaging in conflict with one another more and more and it’s becoming very violent…
What are you afraid of? Partition? Secession?
Collomb: Yes, I’m thinking about that, that’s what worries me.
How much time do we have before it’s too late?
Collomb: I don’t want to create fear, but I think there’s very little time left.
How much?
Collomb: It’s difficult to estimate, but I would say that within five years the situation could become irreversible. Yes, we have five, six years to avoid the worst. Afterwards…
And on that note, after that terrifying aposiopesis, let us turn to an article from around the same time, about Muslim attacks on Jews in France. The author, James McAuley, never mentions the texts and teachings of Islam as a sufficient explanation for such attacks. Instead, he refers to various other conceivable causes, including anger at Israel for its treatment of the “Palestinians,” and one explanation I had not heard before. That is, the supposed lingering resentment of Muslims against French colonialism, and especially against the Cremieux decree (la loi Cremieux), which in 1870 conferred on Algerian Jews, but not on Muslims, French citizenship.
For Rachid Benzine, a scholar of Islam and a well-known French public commentator, these killings [of Jews by Muslims] are best understood in the context of what he calls postcolonial antisemitism. ‘For me, this is a holdover from the colonisation of Algeria, linked to the treatment of Algerian Jews compared with Muslim natives,’he said.”In 1870, for instance, the so-called Crémieux decree secured full French citizenship for all Jewish subjects residing in Algeria, whereas Arab Muslims remained under the infamous code de l’indigénat, which stipulated an inferior legal status, essentially until 1962 [when Algeria became independent].. The legal disparity continued even after Algeria won independence, when hundreds of thousands of former colonial subjects from North Africa continued to arrive in metropolitan France, as citizens. Muslims, however, had to apply to the government for the privilege of citizenship.
But how does “postcolonial antisemitism” differ from the antisemitism that Muslims everywhere have demonstrated for more than 1,200 years before the French colonists ever arrived in Algeria? Rachid Benzine steers us away from the texts, and teachings of Islam, and instead blames France, as the “colonial power,” for causing resentment against Jews among Muslims. It was the French, you see, who by granting French citizenship to Algerian Jews but withholding it from Muslims, caused the animus today among Muslims toward Jews that he calls “postcolonial antisemitism.”
Why did the French grant citizenship to the Jews but not the Muslims of Algeria? There are two reasons. First, the Jews in Algeria were treated by Muslims as dhimmis until 1845, when the French changed their legal status. Even after that date, there were lingering effects of the dhimmi system — not a demand for the jizyah to be paid, but the ineradicable Muslim attitude of contempt for, and sometimes humiliation and persecution of, Jews. By granting the Jews French citizenship, the French state could better ensure their safety. If mistreated in any way by Muslims, Jews could now seek protection, as French citizens, from the French state.
The second reason was that the French sensed, correctly, that the Jews in Algeria, even though Sephardic, looked to Europe as “their” civilization, too. The Jews eagerly embraced French culture, studied the French language, sent their children to France for higher education, and never shared the Muslim antipathy to the French Unbelievers. Even before they were French citizens, they were French in spirit.
No doubt the Muslims in Algeria resented the loi Cremieux, but there is quite a leap from that to the antisemitism exhibited by Muslims 150 years later in France. When those two elderly Jewish women in Paris were stabbed, and then one was set on fire, and the other thrown out of a 3rd-floor window, when a rabbi in Toulouse saw his two tiny children killed in front of him just before he himself was killed, when a young Jewish man was tortured for three weeks by a Muslim gang, then left for dead (and he did, indeed, soon die), when seven Jews were shot to death at a kosher market — do all or any of these killings reflect a “postcolonial antisemitism,” prompted by resentment of the loi Cremieux? How plausible is that?
The dozens of antisemitic verses in the Qur’an, the stories inculcating hatred of Jews in the hadith — for Rachid Benzine, these hardly matter. If Muslim antisemitism today is a result of the French state long ago favoring Jews in Algeria, then what explains all the other brutal antisemitic attacks by Muslims around the world? What explains the murders, by Pakistanis (who have never heard of the loi Cremieux) of that young Jewish couple at a Chabad center in Mumbai? What explains the murders at the Jewish Museum in Brussels? Or the attacks on Jews by Muslims on the streets of Berlin, Paris, London, Malmö? Or the Muslims who at demonstrations all over Europe have been chanting “Hamas, Hamas, all Jews to the gas”? Where does that murderous antisemitism come from?
It comes mainly from the antisemitic verses in the Qur’an, verses which Robert Spencer has usefully compiled, along with excerpts from classic and contemporary Qur’anic commentators. I have posted this material just below:
The Qur’an depicts the Jews as inveterately evil and bent on destroying the wellbeing of the Muslims. They are the strongest of all people in enmity toward the Muslims (5:82); as fabricating things and falsely ascribing them to Allah (2:79; 3:75, 3:181); claiming that Allah’s power is limited (5:64); loving to listen to lies (5:41); disobeying Allah and never observing his commands (5:13); disputing and quarreling (2:247); hiding the truth and misleading people (3:78); staging rebellion against the prophets and rejecting their guidance (2:55); being hypocritical (2:14, 2:44); giving preference to their own interests over the teachings of Muhammad (2:87); wishing evil for people and trying to mislead them (2:109); feeling pain when others are happy or fortunate (3:120); being arrogant about their being Allah’s beloved people (5:18); devouring people’s wealth by subterfuge (4:161); slandering the true religion and being cursed by Allah (4:46); killing the prophets (2:61); being merciless and heartless (2:74); never keeping their promises or fulfilling their words (2:100); being unrestrained in committing sins (5:79); being cowardly (59:13-14); being miserly (4:53); being transformed into apes and pigs for breaking the Sabbath (2:63-65; 5:59-60; 7:166); and more.
The classic Qur’anic commentators do not mitigate the Qur’an’s words against Jews, but only add fuel to the fire. Ibn Kathir explained Qur’an 2:61 (“They were covered with humiliation and misery; they drew on themselves the wrath of Allah”) this way: “This Ayah [verse] indicates that the Children of Israel were plagued with humiliation, and that this will continue, meaning that it will never cease. They will continue to suffer humiliation at the hands of all who interact with them, along with the disgrace that they feel inwardly.” Another Middle Ages commentator of lingering influence, Abdallah ibn Umar al-Baidawi, explains the same verse this way: “The Jews are mostly humiliated and wretched either of their own accord, or out of coercion of the fear of having their jizya [punitive tax] doubled.
Ibn Kathir notes Islamic traditions that predict that at the end of the world, “the Jews will support the Dajjal (False Messiah), and the Muslims, along with ‘Isa [Jesus], son of Mary, will kill the Jews.” The idea in Islam that the end times will be marked by Muslims killing Jews comes from the prophet Muhammad himself, who said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. ‘O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.’” This is, not unexpectedly, a favorite motif among contemporary jihadists.
Not just contemporary jihadists, but modern-day mainstream Islamic authorities take these passages seriously. The former Grand Sheikh of Al-Azhar, Muhammad Sayyid Tantawi, who was the most respected cleric in the world among Sunni Muslims, called Jews “the enemies of Allah, descendants of apes and pigs.” The late Saudi sheikh Abd al-Rahman al-Sudayyis, imam of the principal mosque in the holiest city in Islam, Mecca, said in a sermon that Jews are “the scum of the human race, the rats of the world, the violators of pacts and agreements, the murderers of the prophets, and the offspring of apes and pigs.”
Another Saudi sheikh, Ba’d bin Abdallah al-Ajameh al-Ghamidi, made the connection explicit: “The current behavior of the brothers of apes and pigs, their treachery, violation of agreements, and defiling of holy places … is connected with the deeds of their forefathers during the early period of Islam–which proves the great similarity between all the Jews living today and the Jews who lived at the dawn of Islam.”
It’s those ferocious verses, that extraordinary hallucinatory hate that is constantly inculcated by the Islamic texts, that explains Muslim antisemitism, in France and everywhere else. Local conditions vary; some event in the news might slightly ratchet up the antisemitic fury among Muslims, but does not cause it. That antisemitism remains a constant.
Can anyone believe that Muslims in France, so many of them now the privileged recipients of all the largesse the French welfare state can lavish upon them, are still smarting — and are antisemitic — because of a law applied in Algeria in 1870, that fell into desuetude long before they were born? The Muslim hatred of Jews has been drummed into the Muslim Mind for 1,400 years, in both the Islamic texts, and the commentaries on those texts. It does not depend on the loi Cremieux passed in 1870, or on the proclamation of the Balfour Declaration in 1917, or on a decision in 2018 to move the American Embassy to Jerusalem. Some Muslims — thankfully — choose to ignore those texts, because they don’t agree with their message. The handful of Muslim clerics who deplore antisemitism, such as Hassan Chalghoumi of the mosque in Drancy, are as a result themselves subject to death threats. As Ibn Warraq has written, “There are moderate Muslims. Islam itself is not moderate.” But as we know to our sorrow, many more Muslims faithfully believe what the Qur’an and Hadith tell them to believe, about Jews as about everything else. And of those who so believe, some translate their antisemitic beliefs into action, even to the point of committing murder. In France alone, Muslims have killed, often in unusually sadistic ways, and only because they were Jews, Ilan Halimi, the 23-year-old phone salesman who was abducted by a gang of Muslims, tortured for three weeks, and killed in 2006; Rabbi Jonathan Sandler, his small children Ariel and Gabriel, and Myriam Monsonego, all killed in the Toulouse school shooting in 2012; Yohan Cohen, Philippe Braham, François-Michel Saada and Yoav Hattab, who were shot dead in the Hyper Cacher supermarket; Sarah Halimi, who was stabbed and thrown from her apartment balcony last year; and the latest victim, Mireille Knoll, stabbed eleven times before being set on fire. None of these victims had anything to do with the loi Cremieux, or Algeria, or colonialism. They were Jews; Jews are the enemies of Islam, the offspring of apes and pigs; nothing else mattered. They all deserved to die, from the youngest, who was four years old, to the oldest, who was 85.
This is what is missing from so much of the discussion about antisemitism in France. People are looking all over, just like O.J. Simpson, for “the real killer.” What, oh what, could it be? What causes Muslims to want to kill Jews or, for that matter, and slightly less hysterically, Christians, too? Might it be the effects of poverty? But Muslims in France are very well treated, with free or heavily subsidized housing, free education, free medical care, generous family allowances, unemployment benefits, and more. Could it be that the murderers’ brains are drug-addled? The drug trade in France is now mainly in the hands of Muslims, and among those drug dealers was Mohammed Merah’s father, but none of the killers have been addicts. Could the killers have been protesting French foreign policy? But France helped get rid of Qaddafi, who oppressed Muslims, bombed the Serbs to help the Muslim Kosovars, and has dutifully voted against Israel — instead of “abstaining” as many other European nations do — at the U.N. Could it be continued resentment of the loi Cremieux, which gave French citizenship to Algerian Jews in 1870, as Rachid Benzine claims? Don’t be silly.
Should the French, could the French, allow themselves to recognize that the real source of Muslim antisemitism is the ideology — hallucinatory in its hate — of Islam itself? Some have come close. On April 22, 2018, 300 French notables signed a letter in which they called on Muslim religious authorities to “strike to obsolescence” (or “render obsolete”) “those verses of the Quran calling for the punishment and murder of Jews, Christians, and nonbelievers,” so that “no believer can refer to a sacred text to commit a crime.” The signatories failed to realize just how many verses would have to be excised, how central and not tangential to Islam, is the hatred of Unbelievers. Throw those verses out, and what is left of Islam?
The Muslim response to that letter was one of outrage. How dare Infidels tell us which verses in the Qur’an we can keep, and those we must strike?
And 300 signatories was a start, but that leaves approximately 62 million non-Muslim Frenchmen who didn’t sign. It would be a good idea to keep that letter posted permanently online, so that people could add their names, by the hundreds of thousands, or even millions. Everyone has to wake up. Everyone has to take part. Or Collomb will be proven right, to his own sorrow as much as anyone else’s.
Tom says
Here we see the French beginning to panic with the realization that the “migration”, in which France played a major role of promoting it, is actually an invasion.
For a politician of such standing to openly admit that they have a problem of integration is huge and sends the message that french people are under direct threat from those who came and want to take over.
This is not going to end well once the french people start to openly discuss the problem of an Islamic invasion and the ramifications that have resulted from that.
Stay tuned.
gravenimage says
It will end much more badly if French people *don’t* openly discuss the threat of Islam.
Eur says
Safe spaces for non muslims.
gravenimage says
That should be all of France.
European pagan says
Last year I visited France (Strassburg), and I saw a lots of soldiers (at the train station, at the cathedrale), and police at the synagogue. I was sure they are afraid of something 😉
Lotus says
Here’s an interesting overview of Islam in France from the Brookings Institution.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2019/05/01/islam-made-in-france-debating-the-reform-of-muslim-organizations-and-foreign-funding-for-religion/
Lotus says
Reading this article, I got the impression that the French state has never got its act together in regard to Muslims. In terms of policy, for decades it has merely drifted as the numbers of Muslims kept increasing.
Now with up to 8.5 million Muslims in the country, alarm bells are starting to ring regarding the threat they represent to the state. Too late!
This refusal to think ahead is like a householder who, when he goes out, leaves a tap running in the bathroom, saying he will deal with it when he gets back.
Only on his return to a flooded house does he realise how careless he was and what a gross error of judgement he has made.
Lavéritétriomphera says
8.5 million Muslims, have you considered all the apostates? They exist, and French people are naturally suspicious about religious leaders. So priests, pastors, rabbis had to calm down and it is time for imams to do so wether they like it or not.
gravenimage says
The only thing the Imams will do is to whip up Muslims to attack French people and impose as much Shari’ah as they can get away with.
Wellington says
Laveritetriomphera: Don’t expect imams to act the same way priests, ministers and rabbis have acted. Always best to be prepared, you know, and expecting Muslims and their leaders to act like other religious people is an exceedingly erroneous assumption to make.
Gravenimage is eminently correct in her 6:57 P.M. reply to you
Therefore, think and act accordingly. Here’s a suggestion: Assume that Islam and Muslims serve as the proto-type for Nazism and Nazis. Go from here (e.g., the hijab = the swastika). And if you disagree with my comparison about said ideologies, please tell me why since one preached a master race and the other preaches a master faith to this very day.
Remember, there is no Golden Rule for all to be found in any totalitarian ideology, whether secular or religious
gravenimage says
And there is no “Islam made in France” as clueless French authorities assert. Islam is Islam everywhere–and what a bloody thing it is.
mortimer says
If France doesn’t begin deprogramming Muslims out of Islam, then the current, estimated 50,000 jihad-terrorists in France will turn to 100,000 or more. The jihad situation will become like that of Muslim countries like Pakistan and Afghanistan.
Deprogramming Muslims is simple but hard to do. It basically involves convincing Muslims that the Koran is of human origins. Once they see it is, they leave Islam immediately. Everyone should be taught the basics of showing how the Koran is self-referentially incoherent and thus a self-evident hoax.
Lavéritétriomphera says
Brainwashing is based on terror and Muslims have a fear of hell. It is simple but it works, Muslims work hard to convince themselves and they refrain from asking questions. After all they are not the only ones to use this method, I particularly have in mind some apocalyptic groups.
Wellington says
Laveritetriomphera: Yeah, but such “apocalyptic groups,” by which I assume you mean certain Christians, will not harm or kill you in this world if you dispute them, contra many Mo followers big time. Over 35,000 documented Islamic terrorist attacks worldwide just since 9/11 versus almost zero (if not actually zero) Christian terrorist attacks worldwide since said date only strengthens my position and not yours
Huge difference, couldn’t be huger, and indicative of how moral equivalency thinking often leads to fallacious assumptions and conclusions. You come to mind. I do so hope you see “my point,” made by someone, i.e., me, who is not religious in the least.
gravenimage says
Spot on. Wellington.
Kepha says
There is a large difference between a religion in which the “marching orders” involve the preaching of the Word and administration of the Sacraments, in which the weapons are spiritual rather than carnal, and where believers are enjoined to seek peace with all men as much a it is up to us and one which calls for striking at necks until the unbelievers either are dead, converted, or submit and pay jizya. But, as a Christian, I clearly see that I, far more than even the most radical Muslim, am the great infamy to be “ecrassez”‘d (after Voltaire). Probably beause they know my religion’s for peace, while if they go after Islam, it may quickly cost them their heads. I see the elections of Trump and some European leaders only as a temporary reprieve. As long as the immoderate Left controls the media, academia, and my own racket of public ejjikashun, I see only a continued decline of the West.
gravenimage says
Mortimer, the idea that all Muslims immediately leave Islam once the ‘filthy Infidels’ tell them that the Qur’an is man-made is not borne out.
Wellington says
I have a lot of respect for mortimer, gravenimage, but I agree with you here.
A malevolent ideology, whether secular or religious, and once imbibed, is deuce difficult to entirely extirpate from the human psyche.
As Arthur Schopenhauer and others have noted, get a child indoctrinated early enough and you ordinarily have them in your camp for the duration of their life. This is a positive if the belief contentions are admirable (examples being the efficacy of democracy and the wisdom found in the Judeo-Christian ethic) but a giant negative otherwise. Hard to get a more menacing “otherwise” than Islam.
gravenimage says
Agreed, Wellington. Certainly, some people are brave and principled to leave Islam once they realize how ugly it is–we have some brave apostates here at Jihad Watch-. But this is, sadly, *far* from the norm.
Janice Mermikli says
Agreed. The “shame” culture and peer pressure is enough to prevent many from leaving Islam, even if there are no overt threats to their lives for being apostates.
gravenimage says
This is true–then, as you note, the threats–including death threats–to anyone thinking of leaving Islam stops many from even considering it.
mortimer says
Rachid Benzine transfers Islamic Jew hatred onto white Europeans in order to exonerate Islam.
However, Maimonides (a renowned philosopher and physician, and one of the greatest of Jewish sages, who experienced the Almohad persecutions, and fled Cordoba with his entire family in 1148) had no good words for Islam:
“… on account of our sins God has cast us into the midst of this people, the nation of Ishmael [that is, Muslims], who PERSECUTED US SEVERELY, and who devise ways to HARM us and to DEBASE us…. No nation has ever done more harm to Israel. None has matched it in DEBASING and HUMILIATING us. None has been able to REDUCE us as they have…. We have borne their imposed degradation, their lies, their absurdities, which are BEYOND HUMAN POWER TO BEAR…. We have done as our sages of blessed memory have instructed us, bearing the lies and absurdities of Ishmael…. In spite of all this, we are not spared from the ferocity of their wickedness and their outbursts at any time. On the contrary, the more we suffer and choose to conciliate them, the more they choose to act belligerently toward us…”
gravenimage says
Yes–Muslims murdering Jews predates French laws in Algeria by over 1200 years.
Wellington says
Most certainly, gravenimage.
James says
This does seem like climate alarmism. Perhaps things will settle down and peace will be restored without drastic measures. Or not. It does at least seem plausible that compromise solutions could be reached. But of course who hesitates is lost, as they say.
Wellington says
With respect, James, there is no compromising with Muslims other than short term tactical truces. Long term, it is the required goal of all Muslims to do their best to make all the world the Land of Islam (dar al-Islam), where Islam is dominant and non-Muslims are treated socially, culturally and legally as second-rate human beings (if even this), with any Land of War (dar al-harb), where non-Muslims are dominant, no longer existent.
Other peoples assimilate to the culture and polity they migrate too. Muslims are different. They don’t want assimilation. Indeed, they have contempt for it. What Islam demands is not assimilation but rather total dominance and supremacism, with the host culture finally robbed of any power or influence, often times simply obliterated. Any Muslim who avers otherwise is either a bad Muslim and should quit his faith (for which death is required by Sura 4:89 of the Koran and this requirement is also found in the hadiths, e.g., Bukhari Hadith 9.84.57) or he is lying.
All totalitarian ideologies, whether Islam, Nazism, Marxism, et al., are incapable of compromise. That is part and parcel of being a totalitarian ideology. It’s a damn shame that mankind produced a major religion which is totalitarian but mankind did. Mankind produced Islam and what a curse it is to the entire human race. It debases all, both Muslim and non-Muslim, rather like slavery, as Abraham Lincoln noted, debases not only the slave but the slave owner as well.
gravenimage says
James wrote:
This does seem like climate alarmism. Perhaps things will settle down and peace will be restored without drastic measures. Or not. It does at least seem plausible that compromise solutions could be reached. But of course who hesitates is lost, as they say.
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*Really*, James?
Firstly, as Wellington notes, Muslims don’t compromise with Infidels–certainly not long-term.
Then what would such a compromise look like? That Muslims would rape fewer women? That they would murder fewer Jews? That they would launch fewer Jihad terror attacks?
Why would France want *any* of these horrors, even if such a compromise could be reached?
Wellington says
Frankly, gravenimage, folks like James propose anodyne solutions that are meritless.
If you read this, James, go ahead and prove me wrong. I say you can’t. And if you do respond please provide at least a few details which you most certainly didn’t in your post above.
Waiting.
gravenimage says
Grimly true.
Dawne Swift says
Interesting that France has consistently voted against Israel at the UN — “instead of “abstaining” as many other European nations do.” The history of France in WW2 was pretty poor in terms of anti semitism. Jews were handed over to the occupying German forces by many of the French population – there was a lot of collaboration, which the French have never really allowed themselves to think about too hard. You have to wonder whether there are deep seated anti semitic attitudes in some of the French population, which has meant that Muslim immigrants have been able to progress further with criminal acts against the Jewish population there because of a general lack of concern amongst the French?
I know there is anti semitism in the Labour party and on the political left generally here in Britain – which I believe is caused by the stupid socialists equating Judaism with Capitalism, but the anti semitic crimes in France listed in this article are truly horrifying – and not matched in Britain. So is there less resistance amongst the French population to Muslim anti semitism?
Angemon says
And yet, they move to France…
Wellington says
Well, Angemon, per Muslimthink, Mo’s followers are entitled eventually to all the world, the “best of peoples” {Sura 3:110} and all that rot. And thus why not France?
Terry Gain says
France deserves to be conquered by the great Abrahamic religion. There will be no rescue this time.
Wellington says
France may indeed, Terry, be deserving of such a conquest because it has been so stupid about the nature of Islam (and as so many other Western nations have been), but I experience no Schadenfreude here (and I’m not implying you do) because as France goes, so goes much of the West.
As for the specific matter of the rescue of France, who will rescue it?—Canada under Trudeau?, America with the Democratic Party dominant and in the White House?, Britain or Germany which have both gone into total foolish mode by allowing tons of Muslims to move there and making excuse after excuse for Muslim bad behavior? Certainly no moral support will come from the Vatican, which is now led by a complete fool, if not actually a wicked man (for the record, I don’t think Francis is malevolent but his massive ignorance is leading to the same results even assuming he is iniquitous). And so on.
France has certainly been exceedingly foolish and remains clueless about the nature of the Beast, i.e., Islam. But France is not alone and the utter and continued willful ignorance of Islam, with all of its freedom-crushing intentions and its sickening supremacist aspects, has the capacity to destroy Western Civilization from within rather than the previous way tried by Islam, i.e., conquering from without. Here the blame does not primarily rest with wretched Islam, but primarily with unforgivable and continued willful ignorance of Islam due to the wrought which the 1960’s spawned in the West, i.e., self-hate, virtue signaling, the twin stupidities of political correctness and multiculturalism, and massive ignorance of the past.
Not lookin’ good. Time for a beer.
gravenimage says
Terry, are you implying that because Wellington rightly considers Islam to be a religion that he is considers it a great religion that should violently take over France? You *know* this is not true–it is just calumny.
underbed cat says
Muslims move from Islamic countries to western countries because they are required to by the Quran, for the willing they travel to create settlements, build mosques, try to convert many young along the way and eventually up-rise, with complaints, riots, threats of destruction and can so suddenly take over the sleeping western country, over the years their birth is on the astronomical rise. They are doing this in America, and Europe and South America and the information has been known by some for years, but not one person could hardly wrap their minds around such savagery, or or thought it insane conspiracy theory, but it eventually turns out like Syria in every country. Fighting for their life……so France should stop all Islamic migration unless they are ex- muslims, and explain to the French public the most likely outcome that may occur to their children…elderly or non converts if they take no action. Yes, we have a Constitution, but freedom to practice does not include terrorism, so step one they have to reclassify this as a religion of terror. Maybe it is why, Assad an alawite fought so hard to save Syria…but had allied with Sunni or Turkey but now must submit. The endless war.
Wellington says
When one has to blame “Western colonialism” for bad behavior by non-Westerners in our time, you know that person is out of real ideas.
gravenimage says
Absolutely, Wellington–but Rachid Benzine is not a rational actor. He is a Muslim spewing Taqiyya.
He’s also written tripe like this, trying to crush any resistance against Jihad by French authorities:
“France is in danger of “muslimophobic maccarthism “”
In a forum in the “World”, the Islamologist Rachid Benzine fears that the succession of attacks does not establish a climate of denunciation towards Muslims.
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=https://www.lemonde.fr/idees/article/2019/10/09/la-france-court-un-danger-de-maccarthysme-musulmanophobe_6014743_3232.html&prev=search
(Google Translate is a bit clunky, but serviceable).
Huh!?! says
This is beyond ominous. When is France, the citizens and culture that are the real France, going to protect themselves? islam cannot be re-programmed and will not assimilate. The word for France is now, not in five years say now. The fear of isalm is strangling France, all of Europe and England. Does France really want to provide an example to the world of Mo’s comment, ” I have been made victorious through terror.”
You are not being intolerant or islamophobic if they really are trying to kill you.
Janice Mermikli says
True. Neither are we being paranoid. They really ARE out to kill us, as per “divine” (or rather, infernal) instruction.
gravenimage says
France: “Within five years the situation could become irreversible”
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Deeply troubling. Kudos to Christophe Castaner for speaking out.
More:
For Rachid Benzine, a scholar of Islam and a well-known French public commentator, these killings [of Jews by Muslims] are best understood in the context of what he calls postcolonial antisemitism.
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What a load of crap. How would this explain the horrible rash of Muslim attacks on Jews in neighboring countries, which have no link to whatever happened in Algeria almost two hundred years ago? Ignoring the intrinsic murderous hatred of Jews in Islam is grotesque.
Rachid Benzine is himself Muslim–this is just more Taqiyya.
Wellington says
+1
Lilith Wept says
If you read “Mohammed’s Koran “ by Tommy Robinson and Peter Macloughlin you can easily see what’s left of the Koran after the hate filled verses are taken away…..
And it’s not much, not near,y enough to co statute a “religion”.
“ Mohammed Koran” is the Koran arranged according to time, with verses revealed last coming first in Mohammed’s Koran ( not by length of chapter as in most copies of the Koran) . Because it’s the later verses that are violent and those later verses abrogate the earlier verses that were somewhat tolerant .
And the violent verses are in bold print, easy to see, while the verses that have been abrogated are in italics…
Most of the verses in the Koran that moslems and Moslem apologists quote in an attempt to convince us that Islam is peaceful and tolerant are abrogated …..the only peace or commands to treat people well in Islam is for moslems to to treat other moslems well and be peaceful towards them…
…and moslems can’t even do that. Moslems violence toward other moslems comes third, after their violence to Jews, Christians and all other non moslems .
I didn’t think we needed another Koran but “Mohammed’s Koran makes it easier to understand , easier to find the violent and abrogated verses…and therefor makes it easier to show these to others or to debate moslems.
It makes it obvious that the problem is Islam , and that Islam is a hate filled and violent totalitarian ideology ….that should not be allowed to exist in any Western country.
In addition the introduction has a lot of info and IMO would be worth the price of the book.
AP says
The solution is for the ruling class to let the people defend themselves, it will turn around very quickly. A bully will only hit you when he knows you will not retaliate.
Lavéritétriomphera says
@Wellington,
@gravenimage,
Robert Spencer probably won’t contradict me: the Muslims leaders are not sincere, they do not believe in their claptrap.
I have contact with the police and justice system and there is no doubt that Macron, although I do not always agree with him, is a patriot and that he won’t compromise on the law on applying the principle of secularism.
French government do not reveal confidential informations and the resultant strategy that goes with it, but do not be fooled by the appearances, Macron is not really soft when it comes to the country’s security.
Accordingly French people including ex-Muslims, Jews, eastern Christians, Catholics, Atheists, want the imams and Muslims to obey the law in secular life wether they like it or not, they are not given the choice.
For centuries we have experienced totalitarianism, the church and the kings were all-powerful and we remember the inquisition, the religion wars and the Calas affair, the breaking wheel, the Nazi occupation, therefore we don’t want to see that happen again.
I believe Sharia is as unfair as possible and in contradiction with the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of Citizen of 26 August 1789.
All the apocalyptic groups are dangerous because they “rave” collectively.
Christendom experienced dark days too.
Wellington says
Thank you for your reply and I hope you are correct about Macron and the willingness of the French state to deal with a religion that seeks the extermination of France as we know it. Frankly, I see Macron as still quite naive about Islam, remaining in willful ignorance of it just like so many other Western politicians are. If you have been visiting Jihad Watch for a while, you should know what Robert Spencer thinks of Macron’s “take” on Islam.
As for all apocalyptic groups being dangerous, here I continue to disagree with you. Most are fruity, nutty groups that won’t harm the general population while Muslim apocalyptic groups have certainly done so and will continue to do so.
gravenimage says
I hope you are right, Lavéritétriomphera–but from what I have seen I fear you are not.
And I agree with Wellington–a lot of non-Muslim apocalyptic groups are indeed nutty, but *very few* have ever been violent, especially towards others (I am thinking something like Heaven’s Gate here, going back over 20 years). Would that this were true with Islam…
Kate R. says
Wellington, you sound like an intelligent sort. But you are incorrect on this topic.
Pope Francis is a malevolent person. He has single-handedly (although he has accomplices) distorted the Catholic church and faith into a horrible blend of atheism, pantheism, tolerance of homosexuality, Marxism, Peronism, Communism, and all manner of evil aspects of godless ideologies.
The man does not believe Jesus Christ is God. He hates actual Catholicism and faithful Catholics. He has a list of outrages a mile long, but suffice to say he just held a ceremony in the Vatican garden where he blessed false idols and celebrated a probable enthronement of a demon. He is an evil man.
So yes, the world is in trouble, after 2000 years the church is in blatantly evil hands. It is no surprise an also malevolent force would arise at precisely the same moment in time as this apocalyptic event.
What else but diabolical disorientation would allow France, the eldest daughter of the church, to completely ignore facts and reason, and throw open her gates to Mohammedans.
Wellington says
Kate R.: Thank you for your reply. Well, I have always allowed for the possibility that Francis is malevolent, but my overall point about him for years now is that whether he is malevolent or just “merely” massively ignorant, the effect is essentially the same. Ditto I might add for Obama—and Merkel, and Trudeau, and May, and Macron and, and, and….
Fools, you know, can do as much damage, sometimes even more, than deliberately iniquitous human beings. In other words, the result is what interests me even more than the motivation.
Well, I have no doubt that you and I think alike respecting what a disaster Francis has been—to Catholicism, to Christianity in general, to Western Civilization, to liberty. Where we might disagree, and it is only a “might,” is the motivational aspect, interesting as that surely is.
Lavéritétriomphera says
@kate R.,
Who told you that?
gravenimage says
Kate, I have been *very* critical of the foolish Pope Francis, and agree that many of this actions, especially re Muslims, have been dangerous. But where did he ‘bless false idols and celebrate a probable enthronement of a demon’? I can find *no* reference to this, let alone from any reputable source. Links?
Lavéritétriomphera says
@Wellington,
@gravenimage,
Bonjour,
The following is just my opinion.
Macron is a true French man, he is very traditionalist and his mother is a devout Christian (I heard). He said, and he is right, French people did not want the death of the king, and nowadays the absence of the monarch (I suppose chosen by god) leaves an emotional vacuum.
Macron is not the only one who seems to regret the monarchy, Marion Maréchal Le Pen, niece of Marine Le Pen, said she is “intoxicated” by the republic’s values.
Why not, all the more so as the king can only be a Roman Catholic and the church blessed the French secularism and around it goes.
Louis, Duke of Anjou, first cousin of the Spanish king and legitimate heir of the throne of France, knows that and he showed his colors very clearly. He
supports the yellow vests!
Even if the monarchy will not be restored in France, at least for the time being, that means we want, consciously or not, a return to our fundamental-french-European-Western values.
I think this is true for all the West including USA.
I stand by my words: the apocalyptic groups are dangerous either to themselves or others, I believe their teaching is based on psychological manipulation https://psychologia.co/emotional-manipulation/.
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