Here is one more of those open-mosque events where unwary Infidels learn nothing of consequence about Islam while being led to believe that they’ve learned a lot, are treated to exotic foods, and go away quite satisfied with that most informative afternoon or evening they have been inveigled into thinking they have just had.
They came to sample exotic food and maybe ride a camel, but stayed to learn about Islam and peek inside the imposing dome visible from I-75.
For years, the International Festival hosted by the Islamic Center of Greater Toledo in Perrysburg has been a late-summer staple, offering visitors dishes from at least a dozen countries — and carrots for the camels, alpacas, and goats on display at the petting zoo.”
“Dishes from a dozen countries” for the non-Muslim visitors, and carrots to feed the “camels, alpacas, and goats, oh my!” In other words, an afternoon all about Islam, but let’s hold the Islam, or at least as much of it as we can. Exotic dishes and a petting zoo to boot– what could be more delightful and less threatening?
Visitors were also invited to tour the center, the largest mosque in the region and a spiritual home to 300 Muslim families from 23 countries. Many were learning about the world’s fastest growing religion — practiced by 1 percent of Ohio’s population — for the first time.
If Islam is “the world’s fastest growing religion” as we are constantly informed, then it must be doing something right. No one seems exactly sure what that is, but they’re certainly doing it.
“We initially came for the food. It’s so spicy and fragrant,” said 53-year-old Jackie Petruney of Perrysburg. “I didn’t know much about Islam. I didn’t know they don’t do cremation. And the fasting — that’s a long time to fast. I have some friends who are Arabic but I didn’t feel comfortable asking them, so this was a perfect way to find out.”
Of course you “initially came for the food.” So did many others. And like you, Jackie Petruney of Perrysburg, they “didn’t know much about Islam.” So what did you find out? That “they don’t do cremation.” And the “fasting” — gosharootie, that month of Ramadan is “a long time to fast.” Pretty impressive, no? Well, those are certainly two of the least significant bits of information about Islam one could possibly come up with. Here’s another at the same level of significance: “they don’t do tattooing.” Did you learn anything else about Islam? Or did you mainly just enjoy the food? Yes, why not, you’ve learned enough for one visit. Go ahead — go back for seconds. Take as much as you want. Food makes friends like nothing else.
The tour groups were taken to the prayer space inside the dome. They were invited to take off their shoes and step onto the royal blue carpet where members pray in front of a minbar, the stairs where an imam stands to deliver a sermon. Beside it is a mihrab, a niche that indicates the direction of Mecca.
“It’s a sacred space, which means we put our head on the ground. It’s just clean. That’s why we take our shoes off,” said Dr. Faiza Husain, who led one of the tour groups.
Mary Jane Stradler, a 71-year-old from Perrysburg, kicked off her shoes and joined the afternoon prayer alongside the women, who practice across a divider from the men.
“I didn’t know what they were saying but I participated anyway,” she said. “I said my own prayer and followed what the ladies were doing.”
Mary Jane Stradler “kicked off her shoes”and joined in. She’s a good sport. She said her “own prayer.” Do you think she ever found out what the Muslims were saying in their prayers? She might have been taken aback by the cursing of the kuffars. But why spoil it for her? It was fun. A fun afternoon.
Dr. Husain, a 28-year-old physician from Maumee, described the five pillars of Islam: belief in one God, praying five times a day, fasting during the month of Ramadan, donating a portion of earnings to charity, and pilgrimage to Mecca.
Dr. Husain, you can be sure, will not have explained how, in saying their five daily prayers, Muslims actually curse the kuffars 17 times a day. As Robert Spencer continually points out:
In the course of praying the requisite five prayers a day, an observant Muslim will recite the Fatihah, the first surah of the Qur’an and the most common prayer in Islam, seventeen times. The final two verses of the Fatihah ask Allah: “Show us the straight path, the path of those whom Thou hast favoured; not the (path) of those who earn Thine anger nor of those who go astray.” The traditional Islamic understanding of this is that the “straight path” is Islam — cf. Islamic apologist John Esposito’s book Islam: The Straight Path. The path of those who have earned Allah’s anger are the Jews, and those who have gone astray are the Christians.
This is not my interpretation; it comes from the classic Islamic commentaries on the Qur’an. The renowned Qur’anic commentator Ibn Kathir explains that “the two paths He described here are both misguided,” and that those “two paths are the paths of the Christians and Jews, a fact that the believer should beware of so that he avoids them. The path of the believers is knowledge of the truth and abiding by it. In comparison, the Jews abandoned practicing the religion, while the Christians lost the true knowledge. This is why ‘anger’ descended upon the Jews, while being described as ‘led astray’ is more appropriate of the Christians.”
Ibn Kathir’s understanding of this passage is not a lone “extremist” interpretation. In fact, most Muslim commentators believe that the Jews are those who have earned Allah’s wrath and the Christians are those who have gone astray. This is the view of Tabari, Zamakhshari, the Tafsir al-Jalalayn, the Tanwir al-Miqbas min Tafsir Ibn Abbas, and Ibn Arabi, as well as Ibn Kathir.
Wahhabis drew criticism a few years back for adding “such as the Jews” and “such as the Christians” into parenthetical glosses on this passage in Qur’ans printed in Saudi Arabia. Some Western commentators imagined that the Saudis originated this interpretation, and indeed the whole idea of Qur’anic hostility toward Jews and Christians. They found it inconceivable that Muslims all over the world would learn as a matter of course that the central prayer of their faith anathematizes Jews and Christians.
Nor will Dr. Husain have explained that the obligatory giving to charity by Muslims, Zakat, another of the Five Pillars, is intended not for general distribution to the needy, but only to fellow Muslims. This distinguishes it from Christian charity, which is given to all in need.
“I try to keep it really general, really easy to understand. Nothing political. Many say they learned a lot or their misconceptions were cleared,” she said.
John Heacock, a 39-year-old visiting from Dallas, was surprised to learn “how many parallels there were as far as Christianity, and also that each mosque is its own separate entity.”
What were those “parallels” with Christianity? Let’s see if we can guess. I’m sure they included monotheism (but without mentioning that — Allahu akbar! — our Muslim God is greater than your Christian one, and a good deal more bloodthirsty besides), reverence for Jesus (Muslims love to tell Christians that they “revere” Jesus, but seldom remember to say that for them He is only human, not divine, and if you Christians think He is the Son of God, then you are guilty of the great offense of shirk, or polytheism). When Muslims talk about “parallels,” they are deliberately dissimulating about all the ways that Islam flatly contradicts Christianity in spirit and letter. Christ is nothing like Muhammad; one preaches love, the other hate; one preaches peace, the other war, one preaches the Sermon on the Mount, the other commands Muslims to take part in Jihad and tells Muslims to “strike terror” in the hearts of the Infidels, claims that “war is deceit” and that “I have been made victorious through terror.” Parallels? Muhammad had sexual intercourse with a nine-year-old girl. What is the “parallel” to that in the life of Christ? Muslims learn that they are the “best of peoples” and Infidels “the most vile of creatures”? Where in the New Testament are there any parallels to that cruelly dismissive remark? Had John Heacock not relied on his smiling Muslim hostess, who likes to “keep things general” and makes sure that nothing of significance is said, and instead studied a bit on his own before showing up for the visit to the Islamic Center, he might have been in a position to ask her a few substantive questions.
And what Qur’anic verses would Faiza Husain have mentioned, assuming she mentioned any at all? Of course she would offer 5:32, the verse which Muslim apologists are careful to quote only in truncated form. Here is the full verse:
“On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person – unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land – it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our messengers with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.”
The main point of the verse is to describe those occasions on which it is permissible to slay a person — if he either murders or “spreads mischief in the land.” And mischief includes violating Sharia (Islamic law); having a different religious faith also appears to qualify. Verse 7:103 of the Quran even indicates that rejecting Muhammad and the Quran counts as “mischief.”
Now here is that verse as quoted by Muslim apologists:
“If anyone slew a person, it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people.”
This sounds like an unambiguous denunciation of killing. But 5:32, if quoted fully and correctly (see just above), provides the circumstances when killing may be allowed. What makes this meaning still clearer is that the very next verse, 5:33, gruesomely describes how the killing of those guilty of murder should proceed, with crucifixion and “the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides.”
Along with 5:32, in the abridged version, there is one other verse that is often trotted out on these Open-Mosque or Ask-A-Muslim-Anything events. That is 2:256: “There should be no compulsion in religion.”
Sounds good, doesn’t it? But a moment’s thought suggests there is plenty of compulsion in religion, if that religion is Islam. First, take Muslims themselves. If a Muslim leaves the faith, that is, becomes an apostate, the punishment for such apostasy is death. A hadith in Sahih Al-Bukhari (9.57) has Muhammad declaring that “if a man changes his Islamic religion, kill him.’’ That’s certainly a compelling reason not to apostatize; anyone of sense would call that “compulsion in religion.”
And what of non-Muslims? Muslims will tell you, by way of apologetics, that under Muslim rule non-Muslims, or at least those who are fellow People of the Book, ahl al-kitab, that is, Christians and Jews, under Islamic rule were allowed to practice their faith. And so they were, but only as dhimmis, people who were subject to a host of disabilities, including the requirement that they pay “with willing submission” the jizyah, which was a burdensome tax the payment of which guaranteed their physical safety from the Muslims themselves. In other words, it was institutionalized extortion. As dhimmis, they were not permitted to ride horses or camels, only donkeys; they had to make way for Muslims on footpaths; they had in some places to wear identifying garb — Christians had to wear blue belts or turbans, Jews to wear yellow belts or turbans; they had to place marks on their dwellings to identify the religion of the inhabitants. They could not carry weapons. Many Christians and Jews converted to Islam in order to escape from these onerous conditions, especially payment of the jizyah. Doesn’t that felt need to escape the dhimmi condition constitute compulsion in religion?
The subject of the dhimmi is never brought up by Muslims at these Open-Mosque gatherings. Were it to be raised, the standard answer of Muslims would be something like this: the dhimmis were exempt from payment of the Zakat, but enjoyed all the benefits of living under benign Muslim rule, protected by Muslims. Thus it was reasonable to demand payment of the Jizyah, which helped pay for the Muslim state that ensured their safety. The other requirements imposed on dhimmis would not be mentioned, for there is no plausible explanation to justify them.
The Islamic Center of Greater Toledo is the biggest of 11 mosques in Toledo. It has been on Schneider Road since 1984, and has put on the festival for the past 18 years.
Sue Kaake, 49, volunteered in the kitchen, scooping balls of dough to make Lebanese saj, a flatbread cooked on a convex metal surface in front of visitors at the food tent.
“I love that everybody is working together,” she said. “I just wish everybody in the world would do that.”
Yes, of course. How true. If only we had all come together to make apfelstrudel and sushi, World War II might never have occurred. If only we had learned to make Pozharsky cutlets with our Russian brothers, possibly the Cold War could have been averted. If only Osama bin Laden had been treated in an American country kitchen to a Maine lobster, and hominy grits, and apple pie — well, the possibilities of World Peace Through World Food are endless.
There is almost never one of these Open-Mosque events that does not include food. It’s a very important part of the presentation. Often it is a real spread, laid out for consumption at the end, almost as a reward for sitting through the tour and the docile discussion of Islam. It contributes to a warm communal feeling; visitors sample the exotic dishes, sitting (or standing if it is buffet style) side by side with their Muslim hosts. And the event — in afternoon or evening — ends with the kind of good feeling that such meals guarantee. What better way to learn about Islam than to break bread, from a dozen countries, with kind, nice, eager-to-please Muslims?
And what did the visitors to the Islamic Center of Toledo learn about Islam? They learned that there are Five Pillars, feel that they have learned something by now being able to reel off their names — “Shahada, Salat, Sawm, Zakat, Hajj” — what fun those Arabic words can be! — but did not learn anything about the content of the daily prayers, nor for whom the Zakat, or obligatory charity, is intended. They did not learn, they were not told, about violent Jihad, or about little Aisha, or that Muslims are taught to regard non-Muslims as “the most vile of creatures,” or that Muhammad declared that “I have been made victorious through terror.”
And if Dr. Faiza Husain has her way, her new true-blue non-Muslim friends, having learned so much already from her and other Muslims — how much more do they need to know about peaceful misunderstood Islam? — will never hear a word about those Qur’anic verses and Hadith stories. And why should they? Everyone was so nice! And the food was so good!
MykeJohn says
Taqiyyah on display
mortimer says
Yes, MJ, hot, steaming piles of farm-fresh taqiyya … with a side dish of TAWYRIYYA (deceit or doublespeak, deception by ambiguity … refusing to give straight answers or pretending to misunderstand the question) and MAIN COURSE of KITMAN (deceit by omission … deceit by the withholding of key facts).
– “Taqiyya permeates almost all the activities and dealings of Muslims with non-Muslim societies…” – a former sheikh Sam Solomon
At events like this, the TAWRIYYA, KITMAN and outright TAQIYYA will be flying … the air will be FILLED with them. The Muslims will closely study your face to see if you have been duped by their lies.
If you go to one of these events, I encourage you to keep your shoes on if you are planning to ask a challenging question.
gravenimage says
Yep.
mortimer says
Mary Jane Stradler is a perfect example of a Pollyanna … someone who overlooks the real concerns, sweeps the, under the carpet and then pretends that supremacists who hate the dirty KAFIRS ‘for the sake of Allah’ don’t really mean that. ‘Oh, let’s just get along.’
However, Muslims are not in Western countries to ‘get along’ … Muslims conduct HEJIRA (migration) in order to strengthen the power and sway of Islam. Political power is the actual goal of HEJIRA and the goal of the DISINFORMATION DAY at the local mosque.
Unaware and non-judgemental people like Mary Jane Stradler swallow the bait hook-line-and-sinker.
To all like Mary Jane Stradler who don’t want to examine Islamic political teachings for themselves, I say:
‘Islam is 51% a supremacist, political IDEOLOGY. If they didn’t tell you that, they lied to you.’
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
Hi Mortimer, You write, “Islam is 51% a supremacist, political ideology.” Where does this number 51% come from?
Francine Skronski says
Typical cult where people are brainwashed. I believe in :”Blessed is Thee who comes in the Name if he Lord.” Not:”Blessed is Thee who comes to KILL in the Name of the Lord.”
mortimer says
Our fake-friendly LEBEL (disinformationist extraordinaire) would surely have been involved in TAWRIYYA DAYS at the mosque like this one. He confessed he has a partiality for TAWRIYYA.
(Cat got your tongue, lebel? Tell us why you think TAWRIYYA is the way to go …)
TAWRIYYA is a canonical Islamic method of deceit or doublespeak …deception by ambiguity … refusing to give straight answers or pretending to misunderstand the question.
gravenimage says
lebel’s sneering is supposed to be taken as a joke–but he never actually condemns the ugliness of Islam.
FYI says
hmmm…that aroma?
It smells like….. taqqiya alright…
Say,do they do Matzo balls in the muslim kitchens?
Can the polytheistic Christians come too?
Can I bring along some of my ISRAELI Beer?…..And wear my brand new,recently purchased , “Tzva Ha hagana leYisra’el” { IDF} T-shirt?
Why not?
I thought these events were all about “cultural enrichment”
Or would that be offensive to the “palestinians”,virtue-signalling lefty Jews,the MSM or all those white lefty liberals who get terribly upset at all the “islamophobia”?
mortimer says
DAWA is Islamic ‘evangelism’ or proselytization. It is very common for Muslims to leave out all the most difficult and most controversial bits of Islam in the first two years of a convert’s entry into Islam. However, most converts have either no interest in pursuing Islam further than a period of dabbling or they quickly find things that are disturbing and repulsive on their own. Islamic faith is maintained by shallowness and a lack of examination. A fair number of Islamic apologists have left Islam after studying the most common critiques and arguments about the Koran and Mohammed’s character and after realizing that the critiques of the Koran and Mohammed actually hold water and are irrefutable by reason, facts and logic. Islam is quite absurd when closely examined.
WITHHOLDING key information (that is detrimental to the reputation of Islam) is the CENTRAL technique of TAWRIYYA DAYS at the mosque, such as this one.
Eur says
My language is Spanish and I usually read things in Spanish on the internet about the Islamic associations in my country. On most websites they emphasize that Muslims love Jesus, their proselytism is evident and that it is focused on attracting Christians. When you immerse yourself in the information and they explain to you how to convert to Islam, the advice they give you is amazing: you must break up with your friends, especially if you are a woman and you must constantly surround yourself with Muslims, they will guide you and tell you what is forbidden and what it is not. The conclusion is clear, Islam is a cult.
James Lincoln says
Eur,
For someone whose main language is Spanish, your English writing is excellent.
By the way, accurate post, my compliments.
gravenimage says
Agree with James. Eur, your English is excellent–mucho mejor que mi Español.
FYI says
Tricks of the Dawah trade..
1)Islam is a religion of PEACE
Dawa folk will try to refrain from direct violence:this is necessary to promote this false image but they still use intimidatory tactics.If you see Christian street preachers on You Tube etc[especially female}they tend to be surrounded by Abdools pushing,shoving,laughing..screeching etc
especially when confronted by Logical reasoning.
They WILL be using islamic dissmbling tricks{taqqiya,taqwriya etc}as the koran permite the bearing of FALSE WITNESS to promote islam k3:28
2}allah respects Christians
The koran CURSES Christians for believing in Jesus Christ k9:30
3}The hijab is all about modesty:women are equal to men in islam
NOT TRUE:k2:282,the Testimony of a woman is officially set at HALF that of a man due to what muhammed said was “the DEFICIENCY of a woman’s mind”
A woman who foolishly converts to islam is now NOT EQUAL to a muslim male.But those hijabs look so pretty and feels so empowering don’t they?
{Ask Iranian/saudi/Yazidi women to confirm that..}
4}The koran respects Jesus
Jesus is a Jew{John 4 v 22}:the koran CURSES Jews k9:30,k2:65 etc
The koran DENIES everything about Jesus {k4:157,k4:171}:this,despite the fact that allah claims he gave the Gospel to Jesus{k5:46}which at the time of the writing of the koran he claimed to be TRUEk{3:3}
5}”The Bible is corrupted”
The Bible contains God’s official laws codified in the Torah and the Gospel.
Since the koran preaches DISOBEDIENCE to these {Exodus 20+2 chief laws}
it is the koran that is CORRUPT.
6}Jesus is in the koran
NB Dawa folk often have this on their booths…to fool christians.
“Lo! I am the slave of allah.He hath given me the scripture and appointed me a prophet”
koran 19 v 30
This “Jesus” is,you will see from the context k19:22-30 a..TALKING NEWBORN INFANT
{koran 19:29 “They said “how can we talk to one who is IN THE CRADLE,a little boy”
Yes,HOW INDEED allah ,do you talk with an INFANT:Do tells us…?
7}”Oh you couldn’t possibly understand arabic”
If you are an Arabic Speaking Ex-muslim/Coptic Christian living in the West..now is your chance to demolish these fraudsters who FIDDLE the arabic to justify the falsehood of their creed.
It is always interesting to watch the group dynamics and crowd behavior when the dawa folk meet the Christian Evangelists:the {“Abdoolic”} behavior,especially in regards to women tends to be appaling:they are usually either caught out lying,don’t know the koran or run away
Linde Barrera says
To FYI-Great and truthful comment about Muslim reaction and behavior when they are questioned about the Quran. I have experienced the same reaction when I ask Muslims to explain parts of the Quran such as verses 8:12 and 9:5. Some have accused me of being “stupid” and attack me verbally for seeking clarification. I have come to realize that Satan is behind Islam. ?
somehistory says
The Apostle Paul clarified…if any doubted…that one “cannot sit/eat at the table of demons and also at the table of God.”
moslims invite non moslims to “eat” with them and be misled by the deceptive pretense of kindness. In other situations, they would gladly stab the neck or slice off the head of those partaking of their “spicy and fragrant’ food.
The moslims “invite” the visitors to “take off their shoes and step onto the blue carpet.” What if the visitor refused the “invitation” and kept their shoes on? He/she just might find out about the slicing and dicing that happens when moslims are offended.
DHazard says
Twilight Zone
Episode 50
“The Whole Truth”
“The dealership of glib used-car salesman Harvey Hunnicut is visited by a mild-mannered elderly gentleman who offers to sell his vintage Model A car for a very low price. When questioned about the car, the older man admits that the antique contraption is haunted and Hunnicut will not like it. Laughing this off, Hunnicut buys the jalopy, intending to quickly unload it. To his dismay, he realizes that he is no longer able to lie. He tells a young couple, prospective buyers, that all the cars on his lot are lemons and they should buy from a respectable dealership instead. When explaining to his wife why he’s going to be home late, he openly states that he intends to play poker with his friends. And that’s what he always does when he tells her he is “doing inventory”. When Irv, his employee, asks about the raise he was promised, Harvey confesses he always strings his workers along without ever giving raises. Irv punches out Harvey and quits.”
Imagine if the used religion salesman in Toledo had bought such a car. So many funny scenarios come to mind;
“Islam means submission, as in slave to master. Muslims were the big players in the slave trade before, during and after the American Civil War. In fact, Allah approves of it. I wanted to say more but I’ve been told school children shouldn’t be exposed to the concept of sex slave. But did you know our beloved Prophet, who’s just like Jesus but better, tried to make babies with a nine year old girl?”
“If one kills a single person it’s like killing the whole World, as long as that person is Muslim and hasn’t spread corruption in the land. This is a “Jews Only” factoid from Allah”
“Don’t steal that candy. Why? Because Allah loves you sooo sooo much that he will have somebody cut it off just to teach you a lesson that’s way more valuable than your hand.”
“There is no compulsion in religion as long as everybody’s a Sunni Muslim.”
“Jews drink the blood of Episcopalian toddlers”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Whole_Truth_(The_Twilight_Zone)
Linde Barrera says
To DHazard-Your comment is grimly hilarious. Thank you for it. ?
Lotus says
It would be handy to have a standard ohecklist of questions to use at Potemkin village events like this, to bring out those areas of Islam which are covered up and put the mosque representatives on the spot.
For example, asking mosque representatives if they agree that Muhammad was the perfect man, if sexual relations with eight-year-old girls is ok, if slavery is ok, if they agree with the Conditions of Omar, with death for apostates, with FGM, with honour killings, with polygamy, with diminished legal rights for women, with approved violence against gay people, with the imposition of Sharia law, with the baked-in contempt for all other religions, etc.
A standard list of questions highlighting the disagreeable aspects of Islam, with references to the key source texts, would be a way to show up these open day charades.
It would help many who might be uncomfortable with Islam, but who don’t feel knowledgeable enough to speak up. What do posters on this site think?
gravenimage says
+1
Linde Barrera says
To Lotus-I love your idea. But many “infidels” would probably feel uncomfortable asking such probing questions because they might get criticized or insulted. I have been criticized and insulted by various Muslims to whom I ask “fact checking” questions, but I am undeterred. I will keep asking other Muslims, and I pray to the Triune God before I ask, that these Muslims’ eyes and minds get opened to God Incarnate-Jesus Christ.
Lotus says
Linde, you say you would feel uncomfortable asking such questions.
But during these open days the Muslims know they have to be on their best behaviour. So they can’t go too far in attacking you.
A carefully prepared set of questions would take the initiative away from the mosque staff.
If no one ever speaks up, the mosque people get a free ride, pulling the wool over the eyes of the kaffir once more.
nicholaevna says
Also, you can ask them if they are willing to disavow any verses in the Quran, here and now, and if they say no, then quote them verses that support violent attacks and warfare against unbelievers, such as: “Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.”- surah at tawbah 9:29-39, Quran. “They wish you would disbelieve as they disbelieved so you would be alike. So do not take from among them allies until they emigrate for the cause of Allah . But if they turn away, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them and take not from among them any ally or helper.”-surah an Nisa, 4:89, Quran. Ask them what is their excuse for supporting such violence against unbelievers, because if they do support this, then they support Islamic terrorism and if they don’t, then they are claiming that part of the Quran is invalid.
Also, quote the various verses against Jews and other unbelievers and point out that by refusing to claim parts of the Quran are invalid, they are endorsing antisemitism, in addition to the murder of unbelievers. Also, bring along a copy of the Quran with the passages marked out in it,so that no one can claim that you made it up, as they will probably desperately try to. Note the date of publication so that if anybody says that it is a false Quran, you can say that this edition has been out for so many years,and yet nobody has bothered to correct it? Furthermore, if they try to brush off these quotes claiming that the true significance cannot be understood in anything but the original Arabic,state that thousands upon thousands of people born and raised in Islam, speaking Arabic as their native language and studying the Quran from childhood have gone off to fight for ISIS,become suicide bombers or joined other Islamic terror organizations. Ask,are you supposed to believe that the “true Islam” is such a mystery that these thousands of terrorists all got it wrong in the exact same murderous way, but the speaker of the event is uniquely privileged to have uncovered the secret truth of Islam that eluded all of those people? Please! It’s just as likely he has read the Quran at least once in his life and actually knows the violent reality of the religion he stands up for, but he is not prepared to risk his own neck to do jihad himself but wants to support it through verbal jihad instead. Other Muslims may disagree with the religion but be afraid to leave due to fears for their own safety or financial security, yet they would be less likely to be verbally defending Islam at an event.
gravenimage says
Holy Toledo: At The Islamic Center, Dr. Faiza Husain Tries “To Keep It Really General”
Mary Jane Stradler, a 71-year-old from Perrysburg, kicked off her shoes and joined the afternoon prayer alongside the women, who practice across a divider from the men.
“I didn’t know what they were saying but I participated anyway,” she said. “I said my own prayer and followed what the ladies were doing.”
……………………..
Did she know, as Hugh Fitzgerald notes, that she was joining in curses against the ‘filthy kuffar’?
And did she know about the other ways in which women are divided from men in Dar-al-Islam. such as being sexually mutilated, married off as children, beaten as wives, “Honor Killed”, and stoned to death?
Of course not–this was all too “general” for silly Infidels like this to learn anything about Islam at all.
Linde Barrera says
To Hugh Fitzgerald-Thank you for this outstanding article.❤️And the comments from my fellow JihadWatch.org readers were great too.❤️
JoBo says
to be fair, they should sample non-islamic food. If they try bacon and pork chops, I’ll try their food.