There will be much, much more of this in America: Muslims commit 91 percent of honor killings worldwide. The Palestinian Authority gives pardons or suspended sentences for honor murders. Iraqi women have asked for tougher sentences for Islamic honor murderers, who get off lightly now. Syria in 2009 scrapped a law limiting the length of sentences for honor killings, but “the new law says a man can still benefit from extenuating circumstances in crimes of passion or honour ‘provided he serves a prison term of no less than two years in the case of killing.’” And in 2003 the Jordanian Parliament voted down on Islamic grounds a provision designed to stiffen penalties for honor killings. Al-Jazeera reported that “Islamists and conservatives said the laws violated religious traditions and would destroy families and values.”
Until the encouragement Islamic law gives to honor killing is acknowledged and confronted, more women will suffer.
“‘Yes that’s fine. I did it,’: Mohammad Sahi makes first court appearance since chilling double homicide,” by Bill Churchwell and Jonathan Munson, WTSP, September 16, 2019 (thanks to the Geller Report):
CORPUS CHRISTI, Texas — With the help of an interpreter Monday, an elderly man accused of brutally beating his daughter and grandson to death and severely injuring another grandson made his first appearance in court.
72-year-old Mohammad Sahi was arrested last Thursday at his home in the 6200 block of Denain Drive. When police arrived at the home, he told them he killed his family.
Inside, police found the bodies of Sahi’s daughter, 47-year-old Nargis Zaman, and his grandson, 18-year-old Hamed Zaman. They also found his other grandson, 21-year-old Hamzah Zaman, severely beaten, but still breathing. Hamzah was rushed to Bay Area Hospital. Sahi was arrested….
At one point in court, Sahi became emotional as his interpreter spoke for him, saying to the judge, “Yes, that’s fine. I did it. I mean, whatever you are charging me is correct.”…
Infidel says
So his 18 and 21 year old grandsons couldn’t defend themselves from him? Makes me wonder if they’re even related, if he is so strong at 71 and they’re so weak at around 20?
His daughter must have been married before 16, given that the age of her older son is 21. So she’s probably used to have been a doormat all her life
Jamie E (@shackofstit) says
47-21=26
fortheloveofrescueblog says
I was Just about to say this lol
The Observer says
Um did you consider how they are raised, their culture, religion, etc. From what I’ve gathered women/girl’s there are mere cattle and meat. Not a human. If they are raped/assaulted they are murdered in what they call justifiable honor and passion killing’s. From a young age these women are taught only servitude to your family, the honor, to the male family member’s especially, and to the husband. A slave, if you will. They are taught their abuse is warranted, that it’s okay. If any male hit’s you then it is okay, if you dare strike with your word’s or defend yourself then they will kill you. When you are being beat as she was, you aren’t allowed to do anything. You accept and if you die. So be it. As for her children, they probably refused to help beat their mother for the honor, thus they too must be beaten and submit to it. So many factor’s to consider. They aren’t by any mean’s weak. We don’t have enough of the story to know why they didn’t defend. Plus it could’ve been a durprise attack, say asleep, showering, jusy coming in the doot, etc. Also the guy himself as one said has the body of a gym workout monkey. Which compared to most old people I’ve seen he’s frickin fit. Although even if a elder person isn’t fit or is handy cap doesn’t mean they can’t pull this off.
S. Inman says
47 – 21 is 26…Not too young to have a 21 y/o @ 26
Mai opinion says
Exactly! Than you S.Inman!
Jim hawk (@Psykill2000) says
common core math
Valkyrie Ziege says
; https://youtu.be/iUAYeN3Rp2E
Sj says
My best friend is the next door neighbor to these people… it was an axe that he used to kill them
Kellie says
?
JHoovaaa511 says
Oh my… that just adds an extra layer of chilling. That is way too close to home, I hope your best friend and their family are hanging in there, I’m sure that has had to have some sort of impact on them big time as well…scary. And sad, most of all.
Robert Giese says
Who, what, when , where, why and how. Something seems missing. Why???
Leesia says
I don’t understand your question? What’s missing?
Debbie Roberts says
Any one know WHY he did it?
Leesia says
That’s been asked and answered numerous times- just read all the comments.
Dianne says
According to teport, she was 47. That would mean she was 31 when she had oldest son.
Leesia says
WRONG. Try using a calculator! And why does it even matter??!? What if she was 18? What if she was 51? ?????
Angemon says
My thoughts exactly.
revereridesagain says
Might depend on what he used as a weapon and whether an element of surprised figured in the attack. However, as I keep saying, there’s no such thing as Muslim “men”. Males, perhaps. But few deserve the title of a real man.
gravenimage says
Agreed.
Annie Saunders says
Truth! If they were men, they would admit the theocracy was not even a religion, but something developed by murderers and rapists who lived and died by the sword. Shameful that human beings could follow such a load of crud. Humanity rolls back thousands of years in the middle at and any country that follows mohumud.
Valkyrie Ziege says
; Amen!
Jasmine2378@gmail.com says
They where sleeping when he attacked the boys.
William says
This is why we should outlaw anyone of the Muslim Faith being let into American soil- Our Bible says to “ LOVE AND PRAY FOR OUR ENEMIES”, theirs says”KILL THE INFIDEL”! WAKE UP AMERICA THE INFIDEL MRANS YOU AND I! But yea Minnesota for electing 2 congresswomen to their state cabinet! BRILLIANT!!!
Da Stallion says
It had nothing to do with the mom. The son married a Hispanic woman here in Texas while he was already married over there. They lived with their mom and she allowed it. He caught them all asleep and used a pipe to kill them.
TxGirl says
They were sleeping! You jerks! The old man killed his daughter and one grandson. They were good people. The oldest is lucky to be alive as he was supposed to die too! Religion or not, they’re dead and leave behind a father/husband and several sisters. RIP! May this old man get what he deserves!
Chris Silverton says
William’s just a small brained bigot saying that muslims shouldn’t be let on american soil. Freedom of Religion is one of our most basic and fundamental rights in this country. I was dismayed that the story didn’t give the reasons to why they were honor killings specifically, but thanks stallion for clearing that up….Still doesn’t render explanation as to why he attempted murder on the other grandson. Was he married too over there and took a wife here.
Islamsucks says
Killing his family with an axe while they slept! Effing BASTARD! May he rot in hell where he belongs.
Phil Copson says
Look at him and the size of his arms – that is a powerful man with a physique more like that of a 50-55 year old gym-bunny than the physique associated with sedentary Western 71-year olds. His casual confirmation that he’d carried out the murders shows that he was well-used to dominating others by violence – his grandsons were probably too terrified to resist.
( 47 – 21 = 26 by-the-way….)
Infidel says
Yeah, I noticed it just now. Thought that she had her sons really early
Jap says
Did you also notice the amount of ink he has? That’s the sort of thing you don’t see on a Muslim, so have to ask if this is the grubs photo?
Trick_or_Treat says
Yes, I also thought the ages mentioned here (along with the photo of the ALLEGED ‘elderly’ 72 year old ‘grandfather’) were a little bit ‘indigestible.
What, were both the 21 year old and 18 year old grandsons cerebral palsy stricken and wheelchair bound? What was going on that both of them – along with their mother – couldn’t see off an attack from their ‘elderly’ (albeit fit looking) 72 year old grandfather?
And WHAT was the reason for this so-called ‘honour killing’ ? Had the the mother/daughter recently split from her, probably chosen/arranged, islamic husband (or perhaps been ‘instantly divorced’ by him for something ‘more delectable) and had the audacity to take it up with an infidel beau? Had both the grandsons just come out as being gay? What? This would be interesting to know.
I remember, many years back, me and one of my buddies were visiting our very picturesque Hobart city (Capital of our Island State of Tasmania) over Christmas – New Year [Hobart Port is a ‘party port’ over Christmas and New Year, coinciding also with the annual Sydney to Hobart and Melbourne to Hobart Yacht Races]. We met and teamed up with a lovely, dark-eyed, and wild-spirited young lady who became our companion, our chauffeur, and our party and pub-crawl buddy during our stay in port [and I kept written contact with her for quite some time after]. She was of Middle-Eastern extraction and went by the name of Linda ******(<- common English surname) but that was not her real name. Her real name was more like you'd expect from where her mother had come from. Her story was that her Mother had taken both her and her younger sister and fled from a very strict , and an extremely abusive, islamic 'arranged marriage' sitiuation in (!) City on the mainlaind, and had fled from the mainland to the relative peace, safety, and serenity of Hobart City, where her mother got a steady job at the Cadbury's Chocolate factory, got a house in the sleepy suburb of Clairmont, and had set up life under their assumed alias name(s) [no I don't think she was too dumb, Linda's mother].
I remember Linda confiding all this life circumstance to us over a few beers in the bar of the Doghouse Hotel in downtown Hobart. She suddenly looked at me and my buddy, Gordon, very sternly and said, " You know, IF my father, or my grandfather, or any of my uncles, or even my older brother, knew I was in a pub here, drinking alcohol, and with two Christian guys [she identified both me and Gordon as 'Christian', God bless her] they WOULD certainly come here and cut, not just my throat, but both of yours as well!". I remember that both Gordon and I didn't say a word at that point, except to slowly turn to glance at each other, simultaneously gulp, and take a furtitive and loving feel of our still intact throats. It would even be quite a number of years further on from there before I would realise just how serious she eas being in her words.
Anyway, coming back on topic off my tangent, so what happens now, is America going to continue to treat such cases as the serious mutiple murder that this is, or are they also going to start bringing in special compromise and accomodate type laws where it concerns this disgusting and horrific 'cultural' 'custom' of so-called 'honour killing'?
I have a sick to the guts feeling that the more and more islamic scum, like Obama, Ilhan Omar, Tlaib, and Khan in London, etc, that we allow to get into positions of legislative power in our still 'civilized law' western nations, the more and more (steathily, bit by bit, piecemeal, incrementally) such sickening 'customs' like this 'honour killing' shit might be gradually be 'accomodated', and therefore more and more dragging us down towards the level of their beloved barbarian 'societies' (searching for want of a better word at the moment of writing and posting).
gravenimage says
Quite possible that granddad had the advantage of both surprise and being armed. The article says “beaten”. but does not say with what. I would not necessarily assume he beat them to death with his bare hands, nor that he took them all on at once. He may have crept up behind his victims; they may even have been asleep at the time.
Infidel says
Okay, he used a stick to do the beatings, according to the article linked by James Lincoln below. In which case, he did have an advantage
Can Pakistan be added to the list of Travel Ban countries, so that those savages don’t get to be admitted in? Or will we have to listen to the whining of Gold Star parents like Khizr Khan on why that’s unconstitutional?
gravenimage says
It should be. Pakistani Muslims are also savages.
Jap says
Can’t fault him for his methodology, that’s what we were trained to do to tackle multiple targets.
However,,,,,,,,what sort of spineless piece of filth touches a women except in self defence, (lets face it, the female of the species can be just a tad ferocious when required).
Brenda says
Regardless of what any of them done, what makes this bastard think he can be judge , jury and executionist? They are misguided scum. That is say they can never assimilate in TV o our culture. They are unwavering. Wife over there was probably chose by the grandfather and grandson wanted to choose his own. That is not a capital punishment crime. They are animals, ingrates and need go stay in their own country.
Kona says
Some of you need to learn how to do math. If she was 47 and the oldest son was 21, it means she was 26, not 16 when she birthed him.
Infidel says
Yup!
Leesia Gibbons says
It was established around 5:30 pm the math was wrong and the mom was 26 years old when the oldest was born-there’s no need for another correction over an hour later..it’s not that serious!
Trick_or_Treat – couple things… you said “ Obama” in your post along with asking if the kids suddenly were struck with “cerebral palsy”. I’m not sure why you used that disease for an example.. my nephew didn’t ask to be born that way. I just feel you could have left that and “if the boys admitted to being gay” out of your post completely. You sound like you have an issue with the LBGTQ community and with people who unfortunately were born with severe disabilities…. And what is your point about “ Obama”?
As Mike2 said, the kids were raised to not hit back. I find this easily believable. If you are raised-brainwashed-to never strike any male figure back under any circumstance, even if you feel you’re being murdered- X will happen to them in the afterlife, then it’s easy to believe they just took the beatings. They believe strongly about the afterlife, putting importance on that more than their present lives. That’s why suicide bombers seem unbothered to commit those acts- they truly believe they’re going somewhere wonderful as soon as their souls leave their body.
As for the government stepping in and doing something about religion.. that will NEVER happen. We have rights. The five freedoms outlined in the First Amendment are: freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, the right to assembly and the right to petition the government. Those rights will NEVER change, and I don’t want them to! I’ve read interviews with Muslims and my neighbor is Muslim who owns the gas station nearby. He said he gets so sick of hearing how *he* rammed a plane into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon. He laughs when people comment on how he doesn’t have to pay taxes on his gas station or how the government just “gave” him it! He said he really wished he didn’t have to pay taxes and would rather buy vacation property with what he pays out every year. He said nobody ever gave him or his parents anything and how he had to work hard & save his money for 20+ years to be able to buy his gas station. He also said just because the tradition in his family is to wear a turban, how would anyone know what religion he practices & loves seeing the shock on peoples’ faces when he speaks completely “normal” without any type of accent. He was born in the United States. It’s embarrassing to read how Pakistan are “savages” too now. Why? I was a huge fan of a band “Heaven” back in the ‘80’s. The singer was born in Pakistan. He doesn’t wear a turban, doesn’t practice being Muslim and has an Australian accent since he moved there before his 1st birthday.
Sometimes people write whatever they are thinking at that very moment. I feel people should follow this simple advise before hitting that button to make it public for others to read: write down what you plan to post. Walk away from it and think about something else entirely different. Go back and read what you wrote after 30-45 minutes have passed. More likely than not, you’ll be changing your post. I see a lot of discrimination toward several groups of people based on the actions of ONE man, the subject of the article. Yes, it’s evil, awful and unfathomable for a grandparent to kill his grandkids and the daughter he raised but worst of all, attaching the words “honor killings”(honour) to the act of murdering 3 family members AND is seen as forgivable by “normal” people. For the most part, I’ve read comment after comment and see nothing but unnecessary name-calling and bullying by adults.
And people scratch their heads wondering why there are rude bullies in today’s society, why there’s so much hate toward minority groups, shootings in our schools who are younger & younger.. quit blaming movies & video games. Look in the mirror!
Valkyrie Ziege says
; You’re attempting to equivocate, and make excuses, and it doesn’t work because without religion, and people convinced they’re “Doing the work of God’s hands on Earth”, civilization wouldn’t be forced to deal with such violence, and stupidity.
B Gay says
Leesia Gibbons, Your comment is spot on. These other comments just show the complete ignorance and I justice in the world today. Different cultures have different priorities. In the western culture, preserving one’s own life is #1 for most. But in other cultures, you would never strike an elder, especially your grandfather, even if it meant the possibility of losing life. As you said, the afterlife is much more precious to some. And their faith is remarkably strong.
haz says
I don’t have a very long message but it is so sad people are murdered in any fashion. But if you really open your eyes and look the people “Congress” in this country have already made allowances for foreigners . Take drivers permits, they take their pictures with their heads covered. They are allowed to keep their faces hidden in banks and places of business with signs saying they are not allowed “for fear of being robed”. Places of work have given them extra time off work so they can pray every couple of hours. Some places have stopped serving pork because it offends them. Our rights of speech has been taken away and we are threaten with high fines or arrest if we say words that are not political correct. God is not allowed anywhere because it offends someone. We are a Christian country,not a Muslim Country, if you want to live a Muslim life than move to a Muslim country. I never thought I would see the day our country would be over run by Muslims.
Amy says
Thank you pointing out the card thing that bothered me too
Leesia says
i Don’t understand your comment. How am I making excuses and about what? What do you mean “ “Doing the work of God’s hands on Earth”, civilization wouldn’t be forced to deal with such violence, and stupidity..This whole bit is about Muslims and violence within their own families seen as honour killings.
Giacomo Latta says
Muslim women know damn well they are slaves Level A and act accordingly, or else. Only the ones who know they are free to leave slavery behind can save themselves. Otherwise, Islam allows all sorts to kill them.
Judith says
For those who question how this elderly man could do this to healthy young men. Ever hear of being blind sided? Hit in the head while sleeping perhaps? That was what Bundy did to the college women in Florida. Come on think once!
Traday says
We are in UNITED STATES when they chose to come here their violent ways flew out the window they can believe what they want as in a religion for we are a free country but us Americans dont condone violence if thats the case they should not be allowed to kill their women in our country plain and simple by all means hop on that plane back home where its ok cause it is NEVER gonna be ok here NEVERRR
Cindy says
You are right. And should not get any special treat if they kill they get live. In jail
Delilah says
I agree, you live in the USA, live by our laws.
Do not try to change us to a Muslim country. He should not be treated any differently than if an American grandfather killed his family.
God Bless AMERICA
KricketA. says
They were most likely abused by this man since very young and raised to view him as the authority figure. To fight back would prob not have crossed thier mind and prob they often wiuld believe they deserve the abuse bevause tbry made him mad or were to stupid unloveable ugly or so on and so on. And az a mothrr havibg your sons try to defend you getting involved is utterly terrifying and can actually cause the situation to become much worse where escape now is impossible. And to point out the most heartbreaking fact is often thier iis the belief the beating will stop that the person who you look up to and yes love will stop hurting you…by the tome you realize that this time its going to really be to far….its already to late….thr shock and the others rushing ti the first he killed is easily how he was able to kill the other and almost kill one.
Do not think these young men where weak for one minute. You cannot imagine the bravery people who have been in abusive situations show every singke time they have to walk in that room knowi f they may not ever walk out again. And having no choice nowhere to go or run . I am willing to bet my life if somehow most of the world…uf somehow trapped in that tyoe of life…. Would have to be dragged in because they would be to WEAK to face it.
Those boys and that MaMa are true everyday heros…if even to eachother and noone else. My heart is aching for the boy who has to relive all of this alone. May he find some peace.
KricketA. says
Sorry for the typos ..Im very upset naturally and not sure how to edit the orig. Comment
somehistory says
There is no honor in this. It is demonic. One has to wonder just how he was able to beat them all so severely that the daughter and one grandson died. Did he drug them first or did he just tell them it was satan’s will that they allow him to beat them?
And what does he say drove him to murder his family?
Corpus Christi is a really nice place…the Gulf waters, palms, pleasant weather….all too good for this murderer. Tow him out to the middle of the gulf and let the sharks have dinner on him.
cashman57 says
That alleged prophet mohammed got a message straight from his allah( not to be confused with God) which instructed him to beat the disobedient and to kill those who insult the alleged prophet or his allah, or for that matter anything in the koran.
The whole thing probably started with “You know the koran is filled with falsehoods and errors and I don’t believe the sun sets in a muddy spring with people around” This sent the geezer into jihad mode and he killed his family so he could get those virgins and smooth faced boys which really are not in the koran.
Leesia says
Yes, he did blindside them. He had some type of board. It doesn’t matter if he had a weapon or not- those kids are brainwashed to do nothing to their elders. It’s like getting stoned- actual stones thrown at you until you die-they stand there and take it until they pass away. We all say we’d run of course. But we all weren’t raised the way that family was or in another country. I’ve heard of people who get caught stealing lose a limb. The US would never do that. Just like they won’t tow him and leave him in the ocean for shark bait. The US has laws, courts and due process, thank God. I prefer the process we have in place, the rights we have to a fair trial, etc.
Speaking of God- if the 3 who made the comments even believe in God- how can you use the words “ fu**ing and hate” toward another human followed up with God in the same sentence? That’s cringeworthy. I see a beeline straight to Hell for talking that way!
I’m sure our customs, laws & punishments look just as crazy to them as theirs do to us. I try to look at things from other points of view, as screwed up as other countries, cultures & religions are. I’m not saying I agree with any other way than the one I was born under or ever will, but I want to know how other cultures are and how other cultures act the way they do. I guess it’s the student in me.
And to whoever made the comment once again-what is the deal about the age she had a kid? What’s the point?! Why is it even relevant? Would it change *anything*? Out of the entire article, the important thing is how old she was when she had her son?
Spiro says
Why punish the Sharks
CogitoErgoSum says
Yes, he admits he did it but I don’t see anywhere that he has said WHY. I would like to see him give a reason as to exactly why he did it. Or is the reason being suppressed?
cashman57 says
islam
That’s the reason.
just doing what he was taught would get him to paradise
gravenimage says
Oh, I think we can imagine all too easily. His daughter was too Westernized and not obedient enough, same with the grandkids. It doesn’t take more than this.
Lotus says
Nothing worse than a rogue grandad.
To be the head of a family means to support and care for all its members and to be an example to them. That is the true role of an elder.
But in Islam, being an overbearing tyrant and even a killer is fine, even required. You do you.
Love says
This comment is for everyone that trashed the religion of Islam. Just so u know not all Christian people represents Christianity, same for Muslim poodle , they do not represent Islam. It’s is vey sad that none of u ever tried to read about the Islamic religion from a legit sources and got all ur ideas from a hatred media source. None of u speak one word in Arabic or even met a real good Muslim person in ur entire life. What is also sad is when another person not Arabic or Muslim murder other people he or she will be considered mentally ill. Stop hating and start loving. If any of u are seeking truth about Islam , I am sure you know where to find it. I will leave u with one thing that the word if Islam means peace in English and I wish more people start educating them selves about other cultures and beliefs so we can enjoy the world that we share. God bless the whole world.
“But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also”. “ Mathew”
Valkyrie Ziege says
; I think you need to do a little research on the serious anti-civilization actions from Muhammadans. Turning the other cheek doesn’t work to deter suicide-bombers.
Dawne Swift says
If it were the UK the reason for the killing (honour killing) would be suppressed. It would be hinted at that he was mentally unstable, rather than revealing the depths of depravity in the Islamic religion. Because foolish liberals here like to think that “Islam is a religion of peace” they cannot bear to have anything reported that contradicts their prejudices.
AP says
If it was in the UK, the police would arrest the neighbors, not a muslim
gravenimage says
Honor killing in Texas: Muslim beats his daughter and grandson to death, says “Yes that’s fine. I did it”
……………..
And he almost killed his other grandson, as well.
God, I hate Islam.
jopa66 says
“So do I”, GOD
Trick_or_Treat says
+1, Ditto…
Oh God, how I f**king hate islam!
J D S says
Hey graven….what about making Islam illegal…That probably wouldn’t even stop their stupid idiotic beliefs would it?
Time for our government to “touch” something that has been untouchable….RELIGION…….
Time for new law that sets forth just what religion can and can’t be….and I feel sure that MURDER would not be on the …”can be”….list.
Infidel says
JDS, I recall someone once filing a petition that would de-recognize Islam as a religion in terms of First Amendment protections. It was years ago, but don’t have that in front of me
Trick_or_Treat says
The filthy doctrine should be declared outright as an incitement to terrorism and murder.
Jaladhi says
What’s the basis of allowing these kinds of people in the country?? What Islamic country did he come from? Why are there no details about his origin?
Infidel says
From the names, I’m guessing Pakistan. Also, the story linked by James Lincoln below states that he was speaking Panjabi, which makes that pretty certain
Vetmike says
If someone, anyone tries to justify this in any way, shape or form they need to be on the next seat in the gas chamber from this POS
James Lincoln says
The following link has a few more details:
https://www.caller.com/story/news/crime/2019/09/16/mohammad-sahi-72-appeared-court-says-i-did-it/2342857001/
Infidel says
Thanks for the link
Rarely says
Not a great idea to commit murder in Texas where a death sentence not only borders on automatic but is most likely to be carried out. Bye bye.
Buzz says
Another reason to not let Muslims in this country.
A Muslim should NEVER be elected to public office in this country. Muslims are bound by Islam to follow Sharia law. Islam and Sharia law are not compatible with our Constitution, our freedoms and our way of life. We cannot assimilate people who are hostile to our government, our laws, our way of life, demanding and intent on conquering. Islam should be banned in this country for that very reason.
Michael Copeland says
“The practice of Sharia law should be banned throughout the Western world as it is fundamentally contrary to the peaceful, ordered and democratic way of life…”
Justice Geoffrey Bellew, Australia
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/dec/11/sydney-teen-jailed-for-at-least-12-years-for-planning-terrorist-attack
Sharia is “incompatible with the fundamental principles of democracy”
European Court, 2003, Welfare Party case
Peter WF says
Honor has a different meaning for these “people”.
Wellington says
Yes, it’s a perverted sense of honor, just as Islam is a religious perversion, founded by a pervert, with a fictional pervert for a deity, accompanied by a perverted hate manual as its main religious text.
Perversion and Islam. Perfect together.
mortimer says
The Islamic idea of ‘honor’ is that ‘honor’ is restored to a dominant Muslim male (and his prestige is restored) through the shedding of blood.
A leading Muslim male ‘must’ have bloodshed before his name and reputation are fully repaired.
Former Muslim Nonie Darwish recollects (in the 1960s seeing bodies floating in the Nile at Cairo. No one made a comment about it.
Wellington says
Yep, mortimer, perversion all around. Seriously, Islam needs to be criticized extensively but as part of such criticism it should never be lost sight of how perverted Islam is in sundry ways. I’d personally start with its reputed founder who has perversion written all over his character.
After all, and as I have written before, destroy Mohammed and you destroy Islam. And Mohammed is so deserving of decimation. His sense of honor has perversion of real honor written all over it.
mortimer says
IT’S THE IDEOLOGY in the SHARIA LAW MANUALS:
– K.18.65 permits the killing of one’s children and grandchildren and Sharia law codifies such HONOR KILLINGS:
– Sharia law manual Reliance of the Traveller o1.2
“The following are not subject to retaliation:
-3- (meaning: killing an apostate from Islam is without consequences); -4- a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring’s offspring. RoT o1.2
and “There is no indemnity obligatory for killing a non-Muslim (harbi) at war with Muslims.” -RoT, o4.17, p.593.
RoT o5.4 (O: There is no expiation for killing someone who has left Islam, a highwayman (def: o15). or a convicted married adulterer, even when someone besides the caliph kills him.)
Rebellious, non-practicing children are considered to be apostates from Islam. Mohammed required apostates to be killed.
hornedviper9 says
Are his Parents Brother and Sister, he LOOKS Like an INBREEDER!
Beneath the Veil of Consciousness says
Looks like his nose was broken at least once in the past. From his resolute demeanor, I take it that this was not his first rodeo. Looks like he doesn’t sleep much, either. A mind on fire fueled by Islam. If he is inbred, which is very likely coming from Pakistan, then all bets are off. His daughter and grandsons could very well have been retarded or simpleminded at best. Coping skills would have been very limited and Islam’s “get out of jail free” card would have only served to embolden this cretin. Do we really benefit from inviting these inbred cretins into our country? I think not.
P.J. says
The phoney peaceful religion. Get ready America. It’s their plan to dominate and conquer.
Shirley Ann says
I’m wondering if the Sharia Courts are “Up & Running” in Texas? It’s almost Next to Impossible to get a Straight Answer from any of our U.S. Court Functionaries. These Muslim Murderers are committing Honor Murders, as if they are Approved in America. I guess another TIER in our Justice System does not matter to the LIBS IN OUR JUDICIAL SYSTEM.
Peter WF says
It’s the muslim extraction of tax on infidels. He’ll be locked up til he dies. Compare that cost to a pension.
jayell says
What have we got here?
“Muslim beats his daughter and grandson to death, says “Yes that’s fine. I did it”….*
And the answer?
“No, that’s NOT ‘fine’, you obviously don’t belong with our people”, then (a) sue him for the investigation and funeral costs of his daughter and murdered grandson and the treatment costs of his surviving grandson, (b) lock him up in solitary confinement and feed him bread and water (non-halal) once a day for a very long time then (c) kick him out of the country, or (d) if you still have capital punishment, since he openly admitted the offence (which I presume can be backed up by evidence) save the cost of the bread and water by giving him a taste of his own medicine delivered in exactly the way he did to his did to his daughter and grandson – once he has paid all the costs outlined in (a) above. The, (e) make sure everyone knows about it. That should stop this sort of barbaric nonsense. If not, repeat the exercise until ‘certain people’ get the message (which, knowing the way ‘certain people’ seem incapable of ‘getting messages’ that don’t suit them, might mean repeating the exercise ad nauseam. Never mind!)
Isukusa says
Like I said below 2 dead Muslims out of four is not a bad days work. In Texas grandpa will get the chair for a double homicide for sure the two dead ones won’t breed anymore. Three out of four dead Muslims not bad. Let them kill each other.
duh swami says
There is no Islamic penalty for killing your children or grandchildren…You can almost feel the love…Allah thinks of everything…
Tattoed Man77 says
Will the Defense Lawyer site Mental Health Problems/Dementia/Altzeimers?
No doubt he’ll be getting Pro-Bono defense from the local Mosque?
underbed cat says
I witnessed at a young age, maybe 8, a friend 1 year older who suddenly enraged her father, who had leather cut in strips, a strap for his his children and wife when they disobeyed, before this violent event I knew they were afraid of him, this day he grabbed and dragged his daughter into the bathroom screaming and getting held slapped, shaken and screaming, then dragged her into the bedroom with her father jumping on her shaking her yelling ..I followed this through the very small house. I was numb with fear…then I remember going back to the living room standing next to a furnance, really scared but did not flee the house, only left when the father told me too. I can’t remember what I told my mother if she was homel Later they moved. He was not muslim…she survived. I can’t imagine living with a father who beleives and is given permission to kill. The sense of feeling helplessness living under sharia. What deceiving, giving tolerance due to ignorance of the doctrine enables, destruction of family and secure living.
toomanyhobbies says
this is sick, sad, and he will expect to be let go free under Sharia law… Does Texas still have the death penalty?
Dirka Dirka says
Click on the link to the local news site. They have video of him being arraigned. It is the same guy depicted in the photo. He had no ink discernable in the video. He is a big guy who appears quite strong for 72. His nose looks like its been broken several times.
I always love it when the person is confessing right in front of the judge, the judge tells them to stop talking and to speak to an attorney. The judge should have to testify that when the defendant appeared before them they confessed to the crime.
Walter Sieruk says
That a Muslim husband would be so very vicious and malicious and to murder his wife in that Islamic tradition called an “honor killing” is the most despicable and as it’s wicked. Likewise that a Muslim father would actually be so totally cruel callous ,unloving as to murder his own daughter or daughter’s in the Islamic custom of acting out an ‘honor killing” is completely unconscionable and extremely evil .
Such a male Muslim engaging in hateful ,hateful and malice -filled , Hadith approved, “honor killing” which is part of Islam is thus a very strong reminder of the wisdom found in the booklet written by Thomas Paine which has the title of THE AGE OF REASON.
For it reads “Any system of religion that has anything in it that shocks the mind of a child ,cannot be a true system.”
Leslie says
How come no screams about toxic masculinity? Where are the feminists?
Trick_or_Treat says
‘Toxic Masculinity’ is more only a big problem with Judeo-Christian orientated Anglo-Saxon Caucasian white supremacist males (and particularly those who don’t shave using Gillette products). ?
Isukusa says
Don’t care who did what to whom. Fact is grandpa will get the chair in Texas and he killed one Muslim man who will not breed and a Muslim woman who will not give birth anymore. Three Muslims killed out of four is not a bad days work. Let them kill each other off. Sorry I don’t want them here.
Leesia says
Wouldn’t he get extradited back to where he came from if he never became a US Citizen? If so, he won’t be punished.. that’s the whole point. He’ll be seen as a hero doing “honor killings”
gravenimage says
He will be prosecuted here in the US. After he has served his sentence, he will hopefully be deported.
Leesia says
I hope so.. I really hope so..
OLD GUY says
Execution should cure his problem with violence.
Mahendra Singh says
People tend to forget that in Islam women are considered as property. This is the only
religion which sanctions stoning to death, and honor killing for small infractions. If that
is the treatment given to their own womenfolk, the conditions of non-Muslim women
is even worse. For example, after the defeat of the non-muslim enemy, the captured women
are collected, graded, and distributed as boties of war, the leaders getting the lion’s share.
At one time the slave markets of Muslim nations flourished with captured non-muslim
women. I believe the trade still exists in different form. Ask Hindu families living in Pakistan.
Valkyrie Ziege says
; Jack-the-Ripper, John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy, and other such serial murderers/rapists, and mass murders, and all “family annihilators”, would be happy in Muhammadanism.
https://www.oddee.com/item_99056.aspx
Heidi says
Anyone who said 70 year olds can’t be stronger and more violent than a young unsuspecting 20 year old, is wrong. Did you see the physique on that killer?
Valkyrie Ziege says
; I’m guessing that 70-year-old was on steroids, that could
explain his physic, thereby making his defense “riod rage.
Diane M. Pillsbury says
The article doesn’t go into WHY he did it. Not that there is any reason that could justify this mass murder but still the WHY is important.
Josephine DeFranco says
Yes exactly, it’s elementary writing training that a story answer the Who, What, Where and Why and then give other pertinent details. This is clearly an incomplete story.
Leesia says
You need to read on the page more. I read from a man who lived next door who said the grandson married a girl despite being married overseas. His mom knew about it and obviously the other grandson did as well. So the father/grandfather, beat them with a board while they were sleeping, killing the daughter and grandson who married twice, sparing the other grandson for some reason.
I wrote a comment about how we know the “Why” now… read all the comments first! All the answers are right there.
Valkyrie Ziege says
; He is a “family Annotator”, and the reason “why” doesn’t matter, because we don’t need to be pulled into that murderer’s excuses, and self-important justifications, tornado.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Familicide
Leesia says
Of course the “why” matters. It’s usually the #1 question we, as creatures of habit, want an answer to! Take suicide for instance. Without a note or letter, no signs leading right up to the day of, you’ll most likely hear over & over, “why” did he/she do it? We had no idea they felt that way or things were so bad or they were so miserable”. But if you read through the comments, the “why” has been answered. I want to know if he’s going to stand trial in the U.S. and when. Time will soon answer all the lingering questions. But I’m not a very patient person-never have been! I hope CourtTv covers this story!
Valkyrie Ziege says
; I see I mispelt “Annihilator”, ( Oooops! They really do need an “edit” option on this site. ), and again, knowing the reason why doesn’t the change the end result, because it’s best to avoid playing into the excuse mechanism of the perpetrator. There isn’t any “Justification”/”Reason” for murdering one’s family, or sabotaging one’s family, nor any “Justification”/’Reason” for any sabotaging of any family member.
Sadly, sometimes there are people which are human impersonators, ( John List, and Steven Sueppel. ), whom have failed at their one job in life, of being a decent human-being, and minding their manners.
Leesia says
The subject was people want to know the reason “why”, NOT how one “feels” about the reason, according to the murderer, “why”.
How someone feels about what he did or didn’t do is irrelevant. An excuse, justifications.. are all opinions of thoughts.
People will always want to know who, what, where, how, when and why- with the why usually being the perpetrators version. Leaving that part out of every story, mystery, movie, and real life situations is just plain kooky! You can cover your ears when it gets to that part of the story-the majority of people, myself included, plan on listening. What someone does with the information after receiving it is their own business.
Jan says
If we visit another country and break their laws, we are held responsible under the host country’s laws. The same should go for everybody that breaks laws in their host country. period! and who cares how old she or her sons were, they are gone now because some asswad believes he has the power of God himself to take lives.
Dave Frahm says
A sick and Satanic ideology. This “father” did not deserve his daughter. If only he knew who God really is…if only.
Mallikarjuna Sharma says
This bastard should also be beaten to death in public and people shout: “Yes, that’s fine , We do the same to this bastard.” I think American people are capable of such retaliation, which is quite essential.
Rhodes says
They left out the fact they were ALL asleep, in different rooms, house was over 4000 square feet. And they left out that they were AXED to death.
Leesia says
Well there’s the “why”. Someone said he married a woman in Texas but was married to someone from over seas already. The daughter knew and allowed it, so he killed them while they slept. I guess her other son must not have known since he’s still alive. Oh he’ll definitely get away with it now.. I’m sure he feels his actions are justified- doing the “ honorable thing” his did after all.
Josephine DeFranco says
So how is this an honor killing? What was the offense? Why didn’t full grown individuals – two males defend themselves? How was he able over come tow grown males? Out of respect I can understand that the grown family members wouldn’t strike back but certainly they could defend themselves. This story is very odd.
Shan says
Not only is it horrific to know that their own family member did this to them because he disapproved of their actions which they see as dishonoring their family but just because their culture teaches them this…it still takes a Monster to carry through with what he did.
I am completely horrified as well with so many racist comments full of hate and no care whatsoever for what this monster did to the family members he killed and those left behind who have to grieve and protect themselves from so many people who hate them when they are victims as well.
Thank God this did not happen in their country so he should get what he deserves.
What is wrong with you people to have no sympathy and to be so small minded to think they are all the same.
To say it’s ok cause it’s just one Muslim killing other muslims is so messed up and that so many of you said the same ignorant comments. Take a good look at yourselves because you all sound just as evil as this man and only a monster would wish such brutal deaths on people you dont even know because of their race.
I agree it is very scary with what is happening in our countries knowing that we are living amongst terrorists and very evil people but you really cant believe that they are all capable of murdering innocent people.
Please open your minds and lose some of your hate. I pray for this family that they find a way to get through this, that the one brother has a speedy recovery and that his daughter and grandson didnt suffer too much while the coward attacked and murdered them while they were sleeping.
You all think you know the solution but really carrying around so much hate about something we have no power to change is making it all a bigger problem. They are not all your enemies and they dont all take part in honour killings like this old sick bastar
Leesia says
I’m with you Shan. I’ve said things along the same lines.. you won’t hear back comments or apologies from those people. The gay bashing, hate and racism is prevalent on here. I’m sure those same people are racist toward every group and culture except their own race.
The sheer hate is an eye opener. It’s why I don’t trust anybody. Unfortunately, you can’t tell how much hate someone has in them just by looking at them.
Suzie shorkins says
For one thing, before they come into this country it is Reiterated that their religious practice of killing is unacceptable and will be prosecuted even for a abuse. And that they are refugees leaving their country to avoid the practice and laws of their country. And that sharia law (it doesn’t even deserve a capital S) is not tolerated and will be prosecuted. If they are willing to give up their practice and assimilate to American lifestyle and accept it, then let them in and live here. Otherwise , don’t accept them. Let them fight it out in their own country.
Cassie says
I was in jail with this man i recenlty got out earlyer today an i aint never seen a sombody as strong as this man . when the officers popped his door to feed him his lunch sack it took 9 officers just shut it . he said he would do anything to be back in his country an with his family. I think he should just be put back in his country were the rest of his kinds are
Bethant says
Murder is murder.
Alaina says
I highly doubt that the boys were unable to defend themselves. I believe they were all beat while sleeping or doing something that they were caught completely off guard. There isn’t a person alive that can tell me that if you were hit in the head with an axe while sleeping or caught off guard that you would be able to react quick enough to save yourself from another swing of the axe unless of course you happen to have been lucky enough to have only been nicked by the first swing of the axe. No matter what happened it was wrong for the grandpa/dad to have ever done. And there should be a public beating on this man. He should suffer like those that he made suffer.
Chris W says
This whole article is weak. I only see it as creating division. What the simpleminded May fail to realize is that in America, the rule of law prevails rather than ideologies. The land of the free. To be obedient to the law and live free, or disobey the law and either be a caged animal for the remainder of your days or be put to permanent sleep. There is no gray area when it comes to murder. A Muslim, Christian, Jew, Buddhist, or anyone of any faith or those that have none all agree that murder is wrong. Being free to practice what you preach doesn’t circumvent the law and never will. This is the beginning of wisdom.
This man committed multiple murders in Texas. He will be put to death if he lives long enough.
cindym says
I am very sorry to hear what happened. There is no such thing as honour killing–it’s murder. If he is living in Texas he should be tried as anyone committing murder would be tried. As a Christian woman, who reads the Bible, the word of God says there are only 2 places to end up after death. One is in heaven with Jesus, “no man shall get to the Father but through Jesus” and the other place is eternal life in hell with the devil and his fallen angels that followed him. Even though our bodies die, our soul lives on forever. I believe as Christians we do not want anyone to ever end up in hell for all eternity, neither does Jesus. And all men can be forgiven yes even him, by Jesus. For me it’s very hard to understand these things, but I would say, let him be tried at law for his crimes and let him find Jesus for his eternal salvation if he repents.
vicki Isom says
Do not come into the united states and bring your bull shit laws with you. This is murder. I don’t care how you look at it.You should be put to DEATH ASAP for this act and just for believing its ok. Courts please don’t waste tax payers money on housing him in prison.
Frank Morales says
The family was killed and injured due to a fireplace poker being stabbed through their brains when they were sleeping. The kids were Americanized and thought they were ganstas that didn’t want to do the arrange marriage the grandpa set up.