“Viktor Orban warns Hungary will ‘use force’ to fend off a new wave of migrants if Turkey delivers on its threat to allow refugees to flood into Europe,” by Ross Ibbetson, Mailonline, October 17, 2019:
Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban has warned he will ‘use force’ to fend off migrants if Turkey delivered on its threat to allow 3.6million refugees to flood into Europe.
Orban built a steel fence on Hungary’s border with Serbia to seal off the Balkans route of migration, where hundreds of thousands of people marched through from the Middle East to Western Europe at the peak of the crisis in 2015.
‘If Turkey sets off further hundreds of thousands (on top of those it has already), then we will need to use force to protect the Hungarian border and the Serbian-Hungarian frontier and I do not wish for anyone that we should need to resort to that,’ Orban said Wednesday night.
President Recep Tayyip Erdogan last week threatened to ‘open the gates’ to allow Syrian refugees to pour into Europe if the EU chose to criticise his invasion.
‘Hey EU, wake up. I say it again: if you try to frame our operation there as an invasion, our task is simple: we will open the doors and send 3.6 million migrants to you,’ Erdogan told the parliament in Ankara last Thursday as his bombardments began on northern Syria.
Millions crossed into Turkey during the Syrian Civil War, fleeing President Bashar al-Assad and ISIS, and Erdogan has outlined a controversial ‘safe zone’ to repatriate those migrants.
Orban told private broadcaster HirTV: ‘The next weeks will decide what Turkey does with these people … It can steer them in two directions: take them back to Syria or set them off towards Europe.
‘If Turkey chooses the latter, these people will arrive at Hungary’s southern border in huge masses,’ Orban said, adding that the EU, while criticising Ankara, should provide more funds to Turkey to help rebuild Syrian towns….
Lightship Chaplain says
Turkey has more sense than our politicians!
mortimer says
No … Turkey has an Islamist, fascist DICTATOR who has no scruples and a population that he is brainwashing. Erdogan is an Islamist. He believes in jihad and wishes to reestablish the caliphate of Constantinople. He is a cunning fox … *not* a man of good sense. Erdogan could start WWIII.
Jayell says
If it’s accepted that islam is essentially a totalitarian political ideology, then a true islamic leader has ipso facto to be a fascist dictator. Westerrn democracy is just completely out of the question. And Erdogan certsinly seems to be parallelling Hitler more and more, so this all looks like ending badly..
gravenimage says
How is threatening the West with Muslim invasion “showing sense”?
Terry Gain says
Mortimer
Everything you say about Erdogan is true. This is why it is a mistake not to always stand up to him. This is why some of us who who appreciate President Trump’s strength and enlightenment concerning the evil conquest ideology were so upset that Instead of standing up to Erdogan he gave him the green light to slaughter our Kurdish allies, who were responsible for and suffered the heaviest casualties by far in decimating ISIS. It seems that Pence and Pompeo have cleaned up President Trump’s mess.
This low point in President Trump’s very successful Presidency hasn’t been helped by the subsequent news that the “bring all troops home” justification wasn’t true.
Beverly Teboe says
We went there to help the Kurds fight ISIS. We did not go there to help the Kurds fight Turkey. If the congress wants us to stay and fight Turkey then they should pass a law calling for war against an ally. Although in my opinion Erdogan and his Islamist army need to be removed from NATO. Erdogan wants to be Caliph and he already has his troops stationed forward in Western Europe.
gravenimage says
I keep hearing the claim that Trump told the Turks to attack the Kurds. Citations, please.
william carr says
The so called ‘safe zone’ will soon become a part of Turkish territory then he will have to protect that border and extend even further. Thus he rebuilds the Ottoman Empire. He is close to Putin who uses the same tactics
underbed cat says
Democrats have put roadblocks up by not allowing legislation to deport illegal crossing not enforcing laws, refuse to build walls to help control contraband or illegals, refuse financial support for construction and stop legislation like the” Pelosi penny,” deny money, (however it is still going up) to cancel birthright citizenship..take a enforcing or changing a law…(pregnant toe over border, baby is American) even if they cross illegally. This is how a borders without barriers have allowed jihadist s to flow into America who may act on the Quran, with people fleeing to cross illegally. What is omitted from awareness are the actual commands of the Quran that results in the “blood soaked sands” and 9/11 and terror attack across the world. Without investigation or just simple reading show that the seeds of islamic terror verses found in the Quran is Islam, jihadist act on, but deny they act on..which is also mandatory according to the Quran. Such as holding one’s tongue or not exposiing the doctrine. Jihad is muslims invading lands, settle, buildi mosques with the impression since they state it, they fib a religion and peaceful althought the Quran has 100 verses that declare their mission goal of conquest, victorious thru terror, but death to those muslims who expose the deception or leave the Quran behind. So blaming Trump for the deep state deception is not fair. He is surrounded by the deepstate, constant attacks to wear him down with a still strange situation where we sided with the enemy far too long and is fighting for his life and a second term which should prove successful once the truth can come out. Turkey will not be peaceful, it will show, they will fight Kurds to try to weaken the U.S. in hopes we will return. I think in all of this the left colluded with our enemy and they are entrenched and allowed it to travel, growing in U.S., Trump needs to know who they are. but it appears he is clearing the view and the Democrats are panicked to show the collusion with jihadists. Meanwhile a no stop race muslims are building many bad weapons….and inside the country is a insane blindness. This is my opinion.
Rob Tresun says
Actually Lightship, Hungary has more sense than a lot of our politicians. Why do you think that DT wants The Wall built? TO HELP PROTECT AMERICA, OF COURSE!!
mortimer says
Hegira is invasion by other means.
Hegira is jihad by other means.
Migration without assimilation is invasion.
Terry Gain says
As you know, Muslims don’t assimilate. They conquer.
gravenimage says
True, Mortimer and Terry.
Steve says
If the worst comes I hope Orban and Hungary pile up the remains of the late Muslims that tried to cross at the border and be damned what the rest of the chicken$hit Western Leaders or the rest of the World thinks.
Edmund Carey says
A shocking illustration of how Erdogan thinks, and of how he thinks about refugees. Willingness to simply use them as a weapon. If he meant it, that is. It may have been just talk. Scared little dictators who ran from their country during an attempted coup, and then crawled back and handed out the reprisals when the coup failed, are given to big, threatening words.
gravenimage says
Erdogan has sent Muslim migrants into Europe before. This is not just an idle threat.
Guest says
Let’s hear his definition of “refugee”.
The EU/globalists/UN are using any excuse to term people “refugees” when most all are migrating for economic purposes or to spread islam.
Thank goodness Orban sees through the lies and stands up for his country and culture.
infidel says
A vile piece of garbage… this Erdogan a dog..
R Russell says
If millions of people are determined to flood your country in a bloodless coup, they are no less invaders than if they came with guns and rifles.
May as well fight the war now for when the Hijrah begins Muslim culture will use violence to become the rulers.
gravenimage says
Given how many are Jihadists, this is not always bloodless.
Rarely says
Turkey has to do something with the 3.5 million refugees. Move them west into Europe? Move them back into Syria/Iraq? Leave them in refugee camps ad nauseum? The refugees were fleeing from a War in Iraq/Syria. They are searching for a safer, better life. Thank you Dubya.
Other than mass murder what do you suggest?
Rarely says
Sorry. I misread the article — it’s 3.6 million and growing.
Terry Gain says
Keep the Muslim “refugees “ in Muslim countries.
gravenimage says
Not all of these Muslims are just looking for a better life–unless by this you mean waging Jihad and living off the Infidels.
And how is President Bush responsible for Jihad in Syria?
Ray Jarman says
Take a look at the difference between aftermath of the Syrian internecine and the devastation caused by WWII in Europe. After the war on the European continent, with American aide and the willingness and fortitude of the Western Europe people, the rubble of bombed cities was cleaned up and new factories, schools, hospitals and other facilities were built or rebuilt to a point where people not only survived but they reached in many cases a better life for their children than they had before the war. A side note to this is that Stalin’s USSR and the countries within the Soviet sphere were offered help under the President Truman’s Marshall Plan that granted five billion dollars to rebuild Europe, on the 3rd of April, 1948, to which the Soviets declined.
A similar plan for Syria could easily be put in place and funded by the Saudis and other oil rich nations on the Arab peninsula and Island states if only the factions would agree to a peace and work in harmony where the people could prosper. I know that I am fantasizing because unlike the western European nations led by leaders with prescience such as Churchill, De Gall, Adenauer and others were able to put aside their animosities and worked together for the good of their citizens, whereas the Sunnis and Shias will never agree to work together, except maybe to destroy Israel, to build a prosperous country where harmony might prevail. Instead of helping to heal the Syrian people, Erdogan is so set on destroying the Kurds, thus making life difficult for the refugees within Turkey but no matter what happens within Syria, the refugees must not be set upon Europe and Hungry has every moral right to defend its national integrity by what ever means necessary. It is too bad that France, the UK and Germany have no such leaders as Viktor Orban for an invasion of Muslim trash could be prevented.
Lory says
I often think about this too Ray – why a “Marshall Plan” would not work in present day middle east. ” I know that I am fantasizing because unlike the western European nations led by leaders with prescience such as Churchill, De Gall, Adenauer and others were able to put aside their animosities and worked together for the good of their citizens, whereas the Sunnis and Shias will never agree to work together, except maybe to destroy Israel, to build a prosperous country where harmony might prevail.”
Please inform yourself of General George C. Marshall whose tireless efforts and vision and trustworthiness made the whole thing possible! That is – the Marshall Plan for whom he is named. He convinced congress to engage 13,000,000 dollars to re-build Europe post WWII with sixteen European countries signing on, working together to come up with their individual budgets and plans.
Lory says
oops – “to build a prosperous country where harmony might prevail” …… is not of interest to them.
gravenimage says
True, Ray.
Angemon says
Ha ha.
No.
Battle says
Ray Jarman hits nail on head. Good.
jca reid says
Erdogan is a megalomanic. His policies are deliberately setting out to spread anarchy & this bat crap crazy Islam! The Hungarian PM ORBAN is right on the money about the intentions of these Fascists, because that is what Islam really is. That European Region experienced something like 4Centuries of Islamic Rule. They don’t want it back. Islam, by its very Nature, cannot be modified. As Erdogan & others have said in the past, “Islam is Islam is Islam.” Long overdue this deference for this Desert Nazi Bandit “Religion” is dropped & it is eradicated & consigned to the history books to be looked at & scorned for the crap it is & wonder how Human Beings could follow such a perverted ideology.
Patriotliz says
Can someone please explain the raison d’être for NATO when one NATO “ally” can threaten other NATO allies with a non-European foreign invasion?
Why would a Muslim country ever conceivably come to the defense of infidel Europe which Muslims have been trying to turn Islamic for 1400 years?
I see no point for the existence of NATO since the enemy invasion to destroy Europe has already occurred and continues to worsen w/o any push back except from freedom-loving countries like Hungary and Poland.
gravenimage says
So true.
Peggy says
John Kendall says
Oct 23, 2019 at 7:19 pm
What happens when his term(s) is up? Who is there to take our country back? We now have even more people that vote left as most non-Whites do, &, everybody knows w/each passing day there r fewer White People
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And there will be even fewer if people just don’t wake up. Not only are they importing more non whites than the country can take but they are also strongly encouraging whites to have babies with non whites in order to dilute the gene pool. Every show seems to have a mixed couple with biracial children. Message received.
White people are a MINORITY worldwide. Just because they are still the majority in some countries doesn’t mean they are not at threat worldwide. They will NEVER try to make non white countries to accept a shift where there is a chance of whites dominating but they will take all white countries and try to change that.
So, white people are a minority and still they tell us how we have to be so kind to minorities at our own expense. I would like to tell them WE ARE A MINORITY so tell the others to be kind to us.
gravenimage says
This is not really about race. Hungary would be threatened here even if all the invading Muslims were Albanian or Bosnian.
Peggy says
Yes, you’re right about that too but It still is about making the white man irrelevant. How many times do we hear how middle aged white men should not have an opinion? That says a lot.
Angemon says
“How many times do we hear how middle aged white men should not have an opinion? That says a lot.”
As a white man, I can attest to that. In fact, I’ve had people here not only contacting the mods to have them stop me from posting but also trying to publicly shame those mods (under the guise, of course, of being worried about the site would be perceived if I were to continue psoting) when they told them to grow up…
gravenimage says
Peggy and Angemon, you are right that there is a lot of anti-male sexism and anti-white racism on the left.
gravenimage says
Hungarian Prime Minister Orban warns he will “use force” if Turkey delivers threat to send 3,600,000 “refugees”
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*Good*.
jus wundrin says
Orban – a MAN with titanic titanium testicles.
Vic Garland says
You just have to love that man Viktor…. he is a true gentleman… and a true man for his country….
Hassan says
These refugees became refugees because of conspiracies of Israel US Britain Saudi Arabia UAE Bahrain Qatar and some other European countries. Their plan did not go well, so Europe should accept these people. After all why Turkey should pay the price for being in the neighborhood of troubles created by west.
FireFox says
Hassan, if these conspiracies were of Saudi, UAE, Bahrain,Qatar, and other moslem countries, why have none of them yet taken even one refugee? Not a single one!! Moslems have proven for the past 1400 years that they have no respect for the kafir or freedom. Islam can’t stand the west. Allah hates the infidel. Islam needs to gather its own together and attempt to build something more than the 7th century $hitholes so many try to flee from; and leave the free world alone. But then that may never happen because Islam even hates its own. Islam has caused more than enough suffering in this world already with its god of hate and terror and death.
Angemon says
“These refugees became refugees because of conspiracies of Israel US Britain Saudi Arabia UAE Bahrain Qatar and some other European countries.”
Citation needed.
“Their plan did not go well”
What was the plan? What was there to be won by creating “refugees”?
“ so Europe should accept these people. ”
Oh, so you’re saying that the “refugees” should be taken in by the people you accuse of being responsible for their plight – push them into the wolves den. Genius!!!!!
gravenimage says
Hassan wrote:
These refugees became refugees because of conspiracies of Israel US Britain Saudi Arabia UAE Bahrain Qatar and some other European countries. Their plan did not go well, so Europe should accept these people. After all why Turkey should pay the price for being in the neighborhood of troubles created by west.
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Since when have refugees *ever* fled to the very nations that made them refugees? Were refugees from Western Europe fleeing to Nazi Germany during WWII?
This claim is just ludicrous. What is happening in the Middle East is mostly Muslim-on-Muslim violence. Europe is not responsible for this.
What we are seeing with Muslims flooding into the West is a new Hijira–intended to conquer Europe and the rest of the West for Islam.