In other words, he acknowledged that France faces a jihad but warned that those who call attention to its root causes in Islamic texts and teachings will continue to be stigmatized and demonized.
Prime Minister Edouard Philippe “added that all individuals working in the country’s intelligence services will undergo a full security check to search for ‘signals’ of radicalization that could have been missed.”
This is and will be just cosmetics. The French authorities won’t dare anything serious to resist the advancing jihad. It is not even likely that the French intelligence services, after years and years of politically correct denial and willful ignorance, have any idea what the “‘signals’ of radicalization” even are.
Also, if the killer had been a “right-wing extremist,” would Macron be warning against “suspicion that corrodes”?
“Macron Honors French Police Employees Killed in Attack,” by Thomas Adamson, Associated Press, October 8, 2019:
PARIS (AP) — French President Emmanuel Macron led a national tribute Tuesday to the four police employees slain in last week’s knife attack in Paris, calling them “victims of Islamic terrorism.”…
“The whole nation (must) unite, mobilize, act… We will only win if our country gets up to fight against this underground Islamism that corrupts the children of France,” he added.
He proposed establishing a “society of vigilance” to protect France, a country still reeling from numerous extremist attacks in recent years — but he warned the French against “suspicion that corrodes.”
Though Interior Minister Christophe Castaner initially said there were “no warning signs” before the attack, he has since acknowledged breaches in security over a failure to detect signals of the attacker’s radicalization. The man had previously “justified” the deadly 2015 Islamic extremist attack on satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo in front of his colleagues. No written report was made at the time….
Speaking Tuesday at the National Assembly, Prime Minister Edouard Philippe paid tribute to the police officers and intelligence services’ efforts to fight against extremism….
He added that all individuals working in the country’s intelligence services will undergo a full security check to search for “signals” of radicalization that could have been missed….
Authorities said the attacker had worked for the Paris police force at the computer department of the intelligence unit since 2003 and didn’t have a history of psychiatric problems. He had security clearance.
Tuesday’s ceremony came as justice officials said French investigators found a USB stick belonging to the killer containing information about his colleagues.
Officials didn’t immediately confirm several French media reports that the memory stick contained “jihadi propaganda.”
infidel says
Beating around the bush again… what else can be expected from such leaders..
Fr Christopher says
Mixed signals! “If the trumpet gives an uncertain sound, who will prepare for battle?”
Can you imagine Charles Martel wiffling on like this??
Halal Bacon says
that look of concern on his face is because his mom, er I mean his wife didn’t put enough lube on the strap on
Save Europe says
Grandmother!
Michael Copeland says
Suspicion is, in fact, what is needed.
observer says
No-one with more acute perceptions than Robert Spencer.
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Wake up Western leaders & politico(e)s !!!
You endanger the lives of Western citizens by denying the truth of the jihadist reality in your respective countries in order to grab votes.
How low can you go ?
Are there so few leaders/politicians of principle in the West now ?
How many lives of your own people – brutally taken by jihadi terrorists – will it take for you to say “enough!” ?
Personally, I have already had more than enough of the global horror.
Africa, USA, Europe, UK, etcetera (…you fill in the blanks).
You Western politicians won’t be exempt from the fruits of your actions or NON-action/s when your countries are overtaken/overthrown by islamists…
My life, I hope, will have come to an end by then. I have not long to go…
But note this: the lives of many of your children & your childrens’ children will live to experience the loss of (western freedoms). Indeed – as happens to ‘infidels’ in Pakistan currently – many of your descendants will very likely die by the sword or by sundry other devilisly brutal means.
What more is there to say ?
observer says
Pardon errors above…
mortimer says
I pardon your typo errors, my son. Make many myself in the heat of typing. No ‘edit’ utility is provided in this software. The print in this little box is too small even if set at 100%.
Phil Copson says
“….all individuals working in the country’s intelligence services will undergo a full security check to search for “signals” of radicalization….”
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Too late, and it is no longer even about searching for individual jihadists.
Harpon was allowed by the reckless folly of his colleagues and their superiors to stay in-post and amass personal information. This information was presumably passed on to his fellow jihadists.
How many of his colleagues have received calls telling them that “We know where you live…we know your childrens’ names and where they go to school.” etc, and are now in fear themselves ? Not doing their jobs properly, maybe even being pressured into betraying information about who is under surveillance ? How can you confide in a colleague or ask a superior for help when you have very good reason to fear that they may also be compromised and cannot be trusted ?
Similarly, the whole question of the failure of the police in the UK to protect children from rape-gangs comes down to “Why didn’t they act ?” – They can’t claim that they didn’t know, so are they willingly complicit or unwillingly complicit ? Are the police in the UK in fear that gangs have their personal details and daren’t act ?
There are hundreds of police officers out there who have questions to answer.
mortimer says
FINALLY! Reality just SMACKED FRANCE IN THE FACE. Macron has finally confessed and NAMED THE NAME of the problem … ‘ISLAMIC’ terrorism.
France is the TARGET NUMBER ONE of Al Qaeda, since it is the home of the ‘FRANKS’, a Muslim synonym for a ‘Crusader’. In the minds of Islamic terrorists, all French men and women are thus ‘Franks’ and ‘Crusaders’. Al Qaeda called France the HEAD of the Crusaders.
France has NO EXCUSE for not knowing what ISLAMIC terrorism-Jihadism-Islamism-Salafism is. France has an outstanding intellectual tradition of analytical reasoning and France’s intellectuals should be enlisted to find the IDEOLOGICAL SOLUTION to the problem.
France has a huge JIHADIST population and if any country should be addressing JIHADISM, it should be France, since France is the NUMBER ONE TARGET of Al Qaeda.
The French government’s intelligence service should undertake this dangerous work. Muslims should be deprogrammed right out of Islam, because there is no way to remove the aggressive essence and remove the JIHAD verses from the Koran (or from the Sira and hadiths) without destroying the political essence of Islam … namely, a world-conquest empire.
51% of Islam’s primary source texts involve politics, so Islam cannot be ‘reformed’ to be non-political. Islam can only be neutralized by Muslims abandoning it.
elee says
+1. There is no such thing as an acceptable no-go zone, no such thing as an acceptable pogrom, no such thing as an acceptable level of thuggery, no such thing as an acceptable level of jihadist incitement..
gravenimage says
Not really–we are still being warned about thinking this is Jihad.
No Muzzies Here says
In what will consist the full security check? Will it ask if the individual belongs to a group whose ideology targets the elimination of the French Constitution and replacing it with Sharia law?
En quoi consistera ce contrôle de sécurité ? Est-ce qu’il va demander à l’individu si il appartient à un groupe dont l’idéologie vise l’élimination de la constitution française et de la remplaçer par la loi Sharia ?
Giacomo Latta says
Employees will be forced to swear on the koran that they are not a part of any international cabal.
Ray Jarman says
Personally, I would love to see the questionnaire that one must complete in France. I also wonder if a person must submit a certain number of names for use as character witnesses in order to assess the fitness of an individual to possess a security clearance. Would an investigator enter a no-go zone to interview one of the people an individual listed? Does one in France have to provide information periodically to update a person’s trustworthiness or is it that once the security clearance is given, the individual is set for life. Regarding the information on the servers, were and are there restrictions based on a nee-to-know basis as a person maintaining the network should be locked out of information that a system’s administrator has no reason to access? Just wondering!
Charles says
Perhaps Macron should be more concerned about Islamic imperatives to terrorize unbelievers, the suspicion that it arouses and the oppressive denial of what is self-evident, than the corrosion of the suspicion itself.
Angemon says
in other words: more power to the government in name of security, less power to the people – don’t you dare say your muslim co-worker is acting suspiciously, the government says nothing’s wrong therefore nothing is wrong… We’ve seen this in Great Britain – we know whom the “anti hate-crime” brigades go after…
RichardL says
I have read that he said islamist, not islamic. Major difference. I don’t trust this puppet.
MikeyParks says
Anybody remember the original 1955 movie “The Body Snatchers”? One by one, people were taken over by pod people until there was only one person left, trying to warn everyone but nobody would listen. Seems like this jihadist takeover of western culture is a lot like that. Nobody will listen to the warnings and soon everybody will be a pod person.
Lotus says
Yes I remember that film. You are not the first to use this analogy.
I am pointing to you and shrieking, haha.
gravenimage says
Lotus, you are thinking of the version from the 1970s.
I prefer the original from the 1950s.
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says
We will only win if our country gets up to fight against this underground Islamism that corrupts the children of France-Macron.
Why does he describe it as “underground Islamism”? What threatens us is not at all underground, it’s in the every day teachings of islam. Islam’s most revered books are stuffed to the hilt with brutality and terror against “unbelievers” in total disregard for their human rights to be free. ISIS best represents the real aspirations of islam in its most brutal form, but “jihad” comes in many shapes and flavors. And we know that many muslims openly promote anti-western jihad sentiments and are stockpiling weapons. Here’s some headlines for ya:
France to shut down 100 to 160 mosques: War-grade Weapons found in Some.—New American
Islamist extremists hide huge stockpile of weapons near German mosque—Express
Weapons found at London mosque—The Telegraph
What does Macron and his leftist buddies think muslims are planning with all these weapons? I don’t see multiculturalism in what muslims are doing to us, instead I see our freedoms destroyed and our people raped while Western culture disintegrates. So I think Macron’s wrong in warning against ” suspicion that corrodes,” because when it comes to islam it’s a lack of suspicion that corrodes. We could never be too suspicious, as islam’s primary goal is and always has been the destruction of freedom for the doctrines of allah. Once one realizes this monumental fact it becomes apparent that we are fighting for our survival against an enemy ideology that millions of muslims live for–it’s their “religion” and their foremost guide for living and interacting with others. And the significance of this should not be overlooked, as the whole islamic paradigm is tailored to achieve muhammad’s “divine” plan of cramming islam down the throats of everyone else until they submit or die. The more islam grows in our lands the closer muslims come to achieving that goal. This is how islam always rolls, for 1400 years we “infidels” have had to contend with muslims’ unyielding dedication to doctrines that promote murder and terror for supremacist reasons. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but I’m sure the murdered and persecuted for islam would readily agree, and we’re talking millions.
So my feeling is, F*ck Macron’s wishy-washy ways. It’s time to grow some backbone, don’t drag the rest of us down with your ambivalence toward freedom and human rights. Instead make a stand for what serves our democratic ideals best, our freedoms, and our national well-being. Far too many Western leaders act ashamed of their own nation when we have every reason to be proud of who we are. So what am I saying we should do? We must unabashedly assert our culture’s principles and defend our nation from islam’s corrupting influence and destructive ambitions, in our schools, our politics, in government, and our neighborhoods. Doing that is not “suspicion that corrodes,” that’s simply doing the right thing for ourselves and our nation. I refuse to be ashamed of loving my country and her freedoms. Let muslims be slaves in their own nation if they choose, our right to be free is worth far more than their desire to enslave us for a demon.
Lotus says
Good points, Agostino, especially your remark that it is *lack* of suspicion which is the problem, not excessive suspicion.
As for lack of backbone, I agree with you. See my post further down.
Goofy says
The notion of a “French Islam” may appear strange but it might set in motion a process of great value.
Let us say that the French government decides to have the entire Koran and relating hadith analysed by independent scholars who would identify all the parts of the Koran which conflict with French law. That would be illuminating, especially when printing French Korans with information on the legal consequences of rape, pimping, killing etc.
Reading the Koran would never be the same again.
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says
… have the entire Koran and relating hadith analysed by independent scholars who would identify all the parts of the Koran which conflict with French law.
Not a bad idea, at the very least it would shed light on islam’s foul teachings for all to see. They should at least be as concerned as they were when Sorlot publishing was fined a 1/4 million dollars for publishing Hitler’s Mein Kamf in the 1970’s, citing antisemitism. So no, I don’t think it
unreasonable to conduct a formal and public investigation into muslims’ terrorist manuals (koran and hadith), especially in the context of so much real-world terror for allah. But it won’t happen. Muslims are a protected class, and anything that puts them in a bad light is not permitted. Instead we’re expected to be good dhimmis and bow to their greatness, after all, they’re the “greatest of peoples.” LOL
“You (true Muslims) are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind.” means, the best of peoples for the people, as you bring them with chains on their necks till they embrace Islam. ~Sahihi Bukhari
That last part in bold is about us, you and me, our families and non-muslims friends. It’s holy writ to them. ISIS is still raging, terrorism is epidemic around the world, our people are getting mass raped, our neighborhoods over run, and the god they worship is a quintessential devil, but we’re racist for acting concerned. Funny world, ain’t it? that is, if one considers genocidal murder and terror for religion funny.
gravenimage says
There is no French Islam. Notice we haven’t heard anything more about this of late.
Lydia Church says
That first sentence has it translated into plain English.
Aussie Infidel says
Unfortunately, the French people have been sidelined and ignored with respect to Islam, by successive governments since the days of de Gaulle and even before. And up until now, Macron has also had his head in the sand and behaved like a dhimmi. But maybe now, since this recent attack involved the murder of four police officers – and is a little closer to home – he is ‘woke’ to the truth by blaming the attack on “Islamic terrorism”.
However, holding national tributes to the fallen officers won’t stop further jihadist attacks. Macron (and every other western leader) needs to understand that our enemy is Islam – ordinary, everyday, orthodox Islam as it is written in the Quran and the other Islamic scriptures. And these scriptures command Muslims to “fight unbelievers in the cause of Allah” (Quran 4:74); to “kill them wherever you find them” (4:89); to “cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip. (8:12); to “respond to Allah and to the Messenger when he calls you to that which gives you life (jihad) (8:24); to “fight them until there is no fitnah (opposition or disbelief) and until the religion, all of it, is for Allah” (8:39); to “kill the polytheists (Pagans & Christians) wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush” (9:5); to “be harsh upon them” (9:73); and to understand what is driving it all, “For that the believers will have Paradise” (the one thing Muslims desire most). (9:111);
But above all, western leaders need to treat these attacks not simply as individual unrelated criminal acts to be dealt with by the police, but as a continual series of guerrilla attacks in this long drawn out war of attrition Islam has been waging against all non-Muslims for 1,400 years. Unless our stupified leaders can muster the political will to confront Islam head on and stop its assaults and encroachments on our societies, Western civilisation will eventually go extinct – like the ancient Greek and Roman civilisations before it.
Norger says
“Underground Islamism that corrupts the children of France.” What nonsense. Let’s try “mainstream orthodox Islam, that resonates with devout Muslims because it is deeply rooted in authoritative Islamic sources.” There, fixed it for you Mr. Macron
Lotus says
Today (10th October) is the anniversary of the Battle of Tours. Let’s not forget the vital efforts made in a series of battles in the 730s to hold and then push back the invading Muslims!
European civilization was saved because Charles Martel and his like were prepared to step up and do what was necessary to repel these invaders.
Where are the men with a backbone like that today? It’s rather depressing to think that the heir of Charles ‘the Hammer’ is Emmanuel Macron, who is more of a waterweed than a hammer.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2013/10/battle-tours-raymond-
Lotus says
An extract from Raymond Ibrahim’s book, ‘Sword and Scimitar’ about the leadup to the Battle of Tours (10th October). The quotation marks set off the remarks of various chroniclers.
// By the early 730s Muslims controlled all the major cities of the Frankish Mediterranean coastline, between the Pyrenees and the Rhône; and they ruled with an iron fist.
“As a warning to others, [they] burned a bishop alive” in neighboring Cerdanya in 730. Not content, Abdul and his hordes continued to penetrate deeper north into Francia, ravishing the countryside and despoiling “every church and monastery in their path.”
Their immediate target was Tours, where they heard the Basilica of Saint Martin—one of Western Christendom’s holiest sites— contained untold treasures.
“To spread as much terror and accumulate as much loot as possible, Abdul Rahman divided his army, probably some 80,000 strong, into several columns and sent them pillaging.”
Town after town fell, and the caliph in Damascus rubbed his hands with glee as he received, “among other things, male and female slaves, and seven hundred of the best girls, besides eunuchs, horses, medicine, gold, silver, and vases,” says al-Hakam.
As the Muslims wreaked havoc throughout Francia, Charles, having secured his northern and eastern borders, began rallying his liegemen in Paris. He set off with as many as thirty thousand battle-hardened Franks to intercept the invading army.
Meanwhile, Abdul “destroyed palaces, burned churches, and imagined he could pillage the basilica of St. Martin of Tours” during his drive north, laments a Christian chronicler.
“It is then that he found himself face to face with the lord of Austrasia, Charles, a mighty warrior from his youth, and trained in all the occasions of arms.” //
Lotus says
Continuing the acoount of the Battle of Tours. whose anniversary is today (10th October). From Raymond Ibrahim’s book, ‘Sword and Scimitar’. Quotations are from chroniclers.
// So it was that in the year 732— precisely one hundred years after the death of Islam’s prophet Muhammad, a century which had seen the conquest of thousands of miles of formerly Christian lands—the scimitar of Islam found itself in the heart of Europe, facing that continent’s chief military power, the Franks.
The invading hordes consisted mainly of Berbers who “fought from horseback, depending on bravery and religious fervor to make up for their lack of armor or archery. Instead, the Moors fought with scimitars and lances. Their standard method of fighting was to engage in mass cavalry charges, depending on numbers and courage to overwhelm any enemy; it was a tactic that had carried them thousands of miles and defeated dozens of opponents. Their weakness was that all they could do was attack; they had no training or even concept of defense.”
Except for mounted nobles like Charles, the Franks, influenced by the Romans they had conquered, were now primarily an infantry force. Relying on deep phalanx formations and heavy armor—the typical infantryman bore seventy pounds of iron—the Franks were as immovable as the Muslims were mobile. Along with their shields, which the Franks received upon entry into adulthood, their arms consisted of swords, daggers, spears, and two kinds of axes, one for wielding and the other for hurling—the notorious francisca, which became so conflated with the Franks that either they were named after it or it after ther.
Having arrived somewhere between Poitiers and Tours, the latter being the Muslim target, the Franks took advantage of the familiar and densely wooded terrain. They secured the high ground, which not only served to provide shelter and mask their inferior numbers, but could also impede the much anticipated Muslim cavalry charge.
Once the invaders arrived, the two contending armies faced each other for six or seven days, neither wanting to make the first move. No fool, Abdul knew that behind the miles of dense woods, the best Francia could muster had assembled in large numbers. Worse, and as Charles had predicted, the Muslims’ gain was now their bane: having plundered numerous towns and churches on their northern drive, they were overwhelmed with booty. Nor did any one contingent or tribe trust leaving their share to the protection of another.
Abdul used this downtime to begin transporting the booty south for safekeeping. Charles awaited more of his men to arrive from the furthest outposts of his domains. Then, on October 10—the European climate was getting too cold for the Africans and Arabs, and their supplies and foraging areas had dwindled—Abdul commenced battle. To the loud cries of “Allahu Akbar!,” charge after charge they came.
An anonymous medieval Arab chronicler describes the battle in rather epic terms:
“Near the river Owar [Loire], the two great hosts of the two languages [Arabic and Latin] and the two creeds [Islam and Christianity] were set in array against each other. The hearts of Abd al-Rahman, his captains and his men were filled with wrath and pride, and they were the first to begin to fight. The Muslim horsemen dashed fierce and frequent forward against the battalions of the Franks, who resisted manfully, and many fell dead on either side, until the going down of the sun.” //
Lotus says
Final part of the account of the Battle of Tours. whose anniversary is today (10th October). From Raymond Ibrahim’s book, ‘Sword and Scimitar’. Quotations are from chroniclers or historians.
// Entirely consisting of wild headlong charges, the Muslim attack proved ineffective, for:
“the men of the north stood as motionless as a wall, they were like a belt of ice frozen together, and not to be dissolved, as they slew the Arab with the sword. The Austrasians [eastern Franks], vast of limb, and iron of hand, hewed on bravely in the thick of the fight,” continues another chronicler.
The Franks refused to break ranks and allow successive horsemen to gallop through the gaps, which nomadic cavalry tactics relied on. Instead, they tightened their ranks and, “drawn up in a band around their chief [Charles], the people of the Austrasians carried all before them. Their tireless hands drove their swords down to the breasts [of the foe].”
Military historian Victor Davis Hanson offers a more practical take:
“When the sources speak of ‘a wall,’ ‘a mass of ice,’ and ‘immovable lines’ of infantrymen, we should imagine a literal human rampart, nearly invulnerable, with locked shields in front of armored bodies, weapons extended to catch the underbellies of any Islamic horsemen foolish enough to hit the Franks at a gallop.”
As expected, the battle was a wondrous mess: “Muslims would ride up in large bodies, slash at the clumsier Franks, shoot arrows, and then ride away as the enemy line advanced.”
In response, “each Frankish soldier, with shield upraised, would lodge his spear into either the horsemen’s legs or the face and flanks of his mount, then slash and stab with his sword to cut the rider down, all the while smashing his shield—the heavy iron boss in the center was a formidable weapon in itself—against exposed flesh.
‘Gradually advancing en masse, the Franks would then continue to trample and stab fallen riders at their feet—careful to keep close contact with each other at all times.”
At one point, Allah’s warriors surrounded and trapped Charles, but “he fought as fiercely as the hungry wolf falls upon the stag. By the grace of Our Lord, he wrought a great slaughter upon the enemies of Christian faith,” Denis the chronicler extolled. “Then was he first called ‘Martel,’ for as a hammer of iron, of steel, and of every other metal, even so he dashed and smote in the battle all his enemies.”
As night descended on the field of carnage, the two bloodied armies disengaged and withdrew to their camps. At the crack of dawn, the Franks prepared to resume battle, only to discover that the Muslims had all fled under the cover of darkness.
Their master, Abdul, had been killed in fighting the day before, and the Berbers—freed of his whip and having tasted Frankish mettle— apparently preferred life and some plunder over martyrdom. They all fled back south—still looting, burning, and enslaving all and sundry as they went. Aware that his strength lay in his “wall of ice,” Charles did not give chase.
The aftermath “was, as all cavalry battles, a gory mess, strewn with thousands of wounded or dying horses, abandoned plunder, and dead and wounded Arabs. Few of the wounded were taken prisoner—given their previous record of murder and pillage.”
The oldest sources give astronomical numbers of slain Muslims—hundreds of thousands— with only a small fraction of slain Franks. Whatever the true numbers, significantly less numbers of Franks than Muslims fell in that battle. Even Arab chronicles refer to the engagement as the “Pavement of Martyrs,” suggesting that the earth was littered with Muslim corpses.
“The joyful tidings were soon diffused over the Catholic world,” and the surviving chronicles of the day—including that of the aforesaid and anonymous Arab—portray this victory in epic if not apocalyptic terms.
Even in distant England, fiery comets appeared for two weeks prior, “striking terror into all who saw them,” wrote the Venerable Bede; “seeming to portend awful calamity to east and west alike,” these falling stars “indicated that mankind was menaced by evils.… At this time, a swarm of Saracens ravaged Gaul with horrible slaughter; but after a brief interval in that country they paid the penalty for their wickedness,” concluded the “Father of English History,” who died just three years after the battle at Tours. //
Lotus says
The significance of the Battle of Tours and its aftermath. Extracted from Raymond Ibrahim’s book, ‘Sword and Scimitar’. Quotations are from chroniclers or historians.
// Although a decisive victory, the Muslim menace did not disappear overnight. Pockets of raiders still swarmed north of the Pyrenees and along the Mediterranean coast. “Almost every year of the reign of Charles until his death in 741 was spent in warring to unite Gaul or to rid Europe of Islam.”
Two years after Tours, Uqba bin al-Hajjaj, the new governor of Spain, invaded Francia “to avenge the defeat at Poitiers and to spread Islam.” His large land force remained in Gaul for nearly four years, during which time he carried raids as far as Lyons, Burgundy, and Piedmont, and forced some two thousand Christians to convert to Islam on pain of death.
The Hammer returned to the rescue: “Charles overthrew the tyrants who claimed rule over all of Francia and so completely defeated the Saracens, who were attempting to occupy Gaul, in two great battles, one in Aquitaine the city of Poitiers [or Tours, 732] and the second near Narbonne near the River Berre [in 737], that he forced them to return to Spain,” writes Einhard the chronicler (b. 770).
Thanks to Charles’s follow-up victories, including another significant one in 739, the Muslims became a spent force and were eventually driven back beyond the Pyrenees into Muslim-occupied Spain. //
gravenimage says
Thank you, Lotus.
jca reid says
IDIOT!!!
Giacomo Latta says
Common insults don’t typically represent a strong point of view. But in your case, Macron, you are such a knob.