Don’t look for this in the establishment propaganda media. It doesn’t fit their narrative. Don’t expect retractions, either, from all those who condemned Trump in stinging terms for his actions in Syria.
“Military leader of Syrian Kurds thanked President Trump for cease-fire,” by Sophie Sanders, The BL, October 24, 2019:
The military leader of the Syrian Kurds, Gen. Mazloum Abdi, thanked President Trump on Wednesday, Oct. 23, for his tireless effort that stopped the brutal Turkish attack.
In the statement that was announced via Twitter by Mustafa Bali, a spokesman for the SDF, Mazloum said:
GEN.Mazloum:
1- I just spoke with President Trump and explained to him the Turkish violations of the truce that would not have been possible without his great efforts— Mustafa Bali (@mustefabali) October 23, 2019
GEN.Mazloum:
2. We THANK President Trump for his tireless efforts that stopped the brutal Turkish attack and jihadist groups on our people.— Mustafa Bali (@mustefabali) October 23, 2019
GEN.Mazloum:
3. President Trump promised to maintain partnership with SDF and long-term support at various spheres.
— Mustafa Bali (@mustefabali) October 23, 2019
President Trump tweeted back:
Thank you General Mazloum for your kind words and courage. Please extend my warmest regards to the Kurdish people. I look forward to seeing you soon. @mustefabali
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 23, 2019
Mazloum’s statement was released soon after the president announced that the United States was lifting economic sanctions on Turkey for its commitment to a “permanent” cease-fire.
“It will indeed be permanent. However you would also define the word ‘permanent’ in that part of the world as somewhat questionable, we all understand that. But I do believe it will be permanent,” Trump said at a press conference on Wednesday, Oct. 23.
However, the president added that the sanctions would not be lifted if Turkey “does something we’re not happy with.”…
munchenfez says
Mr Spencer, do you gave ant info on the Bashi Bazouk and are the Turkish militia units operating the same way?
Angemon says
Not enough crows in the world for all the doomsayers…
mortimer says
The Kurdish people should be given the chance to have a plebiscite to express their will about having an independent Kurdistan. If the Irish could be consulted about independence in a plebiscite, then the Kurds should also be consulted about their future political status.
Infidel says
Not gonna happen due to the UN being dominated by the OIC. None of the countries in that bloc support a Kurdistan: they all have allegiances to either the Arabs, Turkey or Iran
Wellington says
Agreed. The Irish comparison by mortimer is inapt because deep down the English, though committing numerous wrongs against the Irish for centuries, have had, in the final analysis, a sense of decency and shame. Not so with Muslims aplenty.
gravenimage says
Mortimer, the UN is not going to help the Kurds.
Ernie says
First Trump creates the fire ; then he tries to extinguish the fire . Sure Mazloum Abdi thanks Trump .
Angemon says
Trump didn’t start the fire
It was always burning
Since the jhad’s ongoing
No Trump didn’t light it
But he tried to fight it
revereridesagain says
Grammy! Grammy!
Seriously, soon as the “Trump Abandons Our Allies The Kurds!!” balloon went up I suspected he had something else up his sleeve, the other shoe would drop, and every other applicable wardrobe metaphor I could think up would apply.
Ernie says
riverridesagain , apparantly in your view President Trump can’t or must not be criticized . I think you are idolating Trump , making him your “god “‘ who is above all criticism . Makes me think of Islam and muslims . You reaction is hysterical , riverridesagain .
gravenimage says
Ernie, revereridesagain said that he agreed with Trump here–he did *not* say that Trump cannot be criticized, nor that he worships Trump like a god.
Wellington says
Ernie: I’ll put it to you plain like, to wit, if you really think Trump created this fire then you are an ignoramus of the first order.
Ernie says
Sure Wellington . Trump acted as a little boy playing with matches in a haystack . The haystack was there , the matches were there…. And maybe you should ask James Mattis what he thinks of this….
Infidel says
Mattis is one overrated guy, and a lobbyist to boot. Steve Hilton covered what he now does a few weeks ago – lobby for Pentagon contracts for companies moving manufacturing of defense equipment overseas
Ernie says
Infidel , I have an entirely other opinion concerning James Mattis and his professional attitude . Throwing (with) mud doesn’t change the situation .
chanah says
so Trump also bombed the hell out of Afrin, or could it be erdogan
gravenimage says
The idea that the Turks would be entirely benign had it not been for Trump seems rather implausible. Actually, Erdogan has been both going after the Kurds and supporting the Islamic State for some time. The question of whether we should have remained in the region in perpetuity to try and stop this is another issue.
Ernie says
Well Gravenimage , James Mattis wasn’t there to do his job anymore . Wonder Why ? Now President Trump could have asked his other generals ……but no ,he didn’t . Why not ? They are/were the experts on this matter . It seems to me that President Trump is not so much of a team-player , and that might be a cause for much resistance in his own Republican ranks …. The Trump administration can’t hold much longer I think . And many good people here on Jihad Watch should know better then still supporting President Trump , it has gone too far .
Infidel says
Ernie, first of all, the team has to follow President Trump – he’s the one who got elected! He got elected on a platform of ending US involvement in those Middle Eastern wars and bringing our troops home. It’s therefore the job of everyone who works for him to either execute on that, or leave the administration – that’s what honorable people do.
All these top level generals are busy creating permanent job security for overseas projects – we now have US troops in 150 countries! In the meantime, we have nothing on the Mexican border. We need to pull all those troops home, and post them on that border. They’ll have their hands pretty full until the wall is complete.
gravenimage says
Ernie, if Trump had been a team player he never would have been able to put through his “Muslim ban” (Muslim immigration to the US is down an estimated 90%), or move the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, or even to have defeated the Islamic State to begin with. I do not necessarily agree with President Trump on every point, but this needs to be acknowledged.
And not all generals necessarily have the same views on Syria, in any case–nor on the Jihad threat in general.
The whole thing about whether being a team player is a good thing or not so often depends on the team in question.
As for whether Democrats will be able to impeach Trump, certainly, the Left has been pushing for this since before he took office. I’m not sure why you consider this a good thing.
Few Democrats said anything about supporting the Kurds before Trump pulled the troops out of Syria. The idea that they would all go to bat for the Kurds is, I think, quite mistaken.
Ernie says
Wellington , you should know better then calling me names . It does not become you .
gravenimage says
I’m not sure what would have been our best move in the rewgion, but the idea that Trump is attacking the Kurds is entirely mistaken. The attackers are the Turks.
Ernie says
Yes , Gravenimage , the attackers were Turks and their bloody thugs . We all know .The order from Trump to make way for them was the last obstacle taken away for the Turks . Trump didn’t care about asking his generals what to do ( probably thinks he is smarter ) .The oilfields in east Syria are worth protecting by US troops , they are still there . The Kurdish people in north Syria apparently were not . Those few American troops in the north made the difference . And now we see the fall out of an irresponsible decision of one man . This man is under attack in the US , not entirely without cause I would say . Many here on Jihad Watch think otherwise , but that is to be expected . History will judge Donald Trum and his actions .
gravenimage says
Ernie, I have somewhat mixed thoughts about our pulling out of Syria–I am concerned about the reconstitution of the Islamic State, especially. And as I have said, the Kurds have been less bad than many other factions in the region–I feel similarly about Assad.
But the claim that Trump told Erdogan to attack the Kurds–which many people claim–does not seem to be borne out by the facts. Never mind that there would be no reason for him to do so.
In fact, Erdogan has been targeting the Kurds for a long time.
Ernie says
Gravenimage , I never said Trump gave explicitly the green light to Erdogan to attack the Kurds in northern Syria . I said keeping those American troops in harms way would have prevented a lot of ( deadly ) problems . And yes , you’re right , Erdogan has been attacking the Kurds for a long time . I see a lot of Kurdish civilians killed/wounded/maimed and/or on the run…….and only the regimes of Russia , Turkey , Syria and Iran benefit from Trumps action . Israel will be LESS SAVE NOW .
Mark Swan says
Ernie,
You are certainly not alone in not being willing to appreciate what President Trump
has been able to accomplish so far…under intensely hateful resistance.
I can not imagine any other President being treated this way and still willing to try.
This human being is flesh and blood just like the rest of us…yet somehow perseveres.
What ever man’s history may write of him it can never praise those who abused him.
The established bureaucrats and international lobbyist despise him, as they do Americans.
We are so often judged by the company we keep.
gravenimage says
Ernie, if only enough Americans remain in harm’s way perhaps we can keep some Muslims from killing each other–or maybe not…
Mark Swan says
Yes, gravenimage, that is what I got from it.
gravenimage says
Thanks, Mark. Basically, Americans are supposed to give their lives all the time–and still to be condemned for it.
Kepha says
The whole Syrian venture was a mistake. First, HRC, Samantha Powers, and the O himself wished to tell Bush 42 that “anything you can do [i.e., overthrow a brutal Arab dictator], we can do better!” Hence the follies of the O maladministration in Egypt, Libya, and Syrai–where we ended up allies with the kissing cousins of Qaida. And as someone who clearly remembers the Silly ‘Sixties and Sillier ‘Seventies, I engage in a bit of bitter laughter when I see the party that decried our being in the Southeast Asian quagmire insisting we need to continue slogging through the Fertile Crescent one.
Mark Swan says
Absolutely Angemon and Wellington.
Terry Gain says
President Trump did betray the Kurds by caving to Erdogan. Pence and Pompeo corrected the error and quickly obtained a ceasefire, thus demonstrating how unnecessary it was for President Trump to give Erdogan the green light to slaughter our Kurdish allies. Of course the Kurdish leader is praising Trump. The Kurds don’t want to be betrayed again.
Ernie says
Thank you Terry !
Terry Gain says
Ernie
I call it as I see it. I have no desire to trash President Trump, who overall is doing a great job, nor to disagree with Robert Spencer, who is one of my heroes. When Robert Spencer accuses people like me of not really supporting the Kurds, but just wanting to trash President Trump it is a sad day for this site and indicative of the weakness of his argument on this issue.
When I believe that Robert Spencer is plainly wrong, as much as I admire him, I am not about to keep my big mouth shut. (i threw in the joke, hoping that it might deter the usual culprits from falsely claiming that my comment is angry).
Ernie says
I thank you for your integrity Terry . I’m disappointed in quite a lot of people here on Jihad Watch , included Mr. Robert Spencer . Why ? Because these people can’t handle any criticism of President Trump . As if Trump is perfect . As if Trump is ” the Messiah “, How scared/fanatic/blind and/or arrogant these people must be not to be able or want to see the obvious . I assure you , the USA will bear the sour fruit from the irresponsible actions of President Trump . And that’s a real sad thing in my eyes . America deserves a lot better .
gravenimage says
There is criticism here of Donald Trump all the time–the idea that Robert Spencer regards him as “the Messiah” is mistaken at best, and calumny at worst.
Ernie says
Gravenimage , I didn’t say Robert Spencer regards Donald Trump as the Messiah . So much for being a keen reader . Thank you . And no , there is no criticism of Donald Trump all the time here Gravenimage .
gravenimage says
Ernie, you wrote:
I’m disappointed in quite a lot of people here on Jihad Watch , included Mr. Robert Spencer . Why ? Because these people can’t handle any criticism of President Trump . As if Trump is perfect . As if Trump is ” the Messiah “
……….
That certainly sounds as though you include Robert Spencer. The idea that one is not a keen reader if one is not a mind reader is mistaken. But I take your word that you did not mean to include him.
As for criticism of Trump here, I have seen it recently from yourself, from Terry Gain, Demsci, Chand, christianblood, Sabri S., Kepha–and myself–including many on this thread. I’m sure there are many others, as well–this is just off the top of my head. These posters may not all agree with each other, but all have been openly critical of the President. This is *certainly* allowed here, and is not uncommon at all.
Ernie says
Gravenimage , I wrote : “quite a lot of people ” here , not “all ” , and “as if “means just “as if “. And I never said that criticism of President Trump is not allowed/or permitted here on Jihad Watch . So please don’t put words in my mouth Gravenimage .
gravenimage says
Ernie, you wrote:
I’m disappointed in quite a lot of people here on Jihad Watch , included Mr. Robert Spencer . Why ? Because these people can’t handle any criticism of President Trump .
………………
This sounds as if Robert Spencer cannot handle any criticism of Donald Trump. But if you say that is not what you meant, I accept that. I think I’ll leave this here at this point.
Demsci says
Ernie, I think by and large commenters show they can handle criticism on Trump fine, admitting some of his faults. Also yes, criticism on Trump is allowed here and quite regular.
For instance you should compare Trump with Muhammad and both their supporters and how they speak about their “preferred leader” and how they tolerate criticism.
And Mark Swan is right about the. Abnormal high rate of hate and criticism towards him that is coming from the Democrats (but these are opponents) and the MSM, who are supposed to be neutral, but who are it seems for 80 % democrat party voters and who for 91 % report negatively on Trump.
It is estimated that maybe 50 % of Americans or more have absolutely no trust anymore in the MSM, like WApo,NYT, CNN, MSNBC, ABC.
But yes, I do suppose there is bias in Trumps favor on JW. I know I have such bias. I see Robert Spencer and many Trumpsupporters as part of the Trump defense team, against an enormous Trump Prosecutor team. In the hope that “neutral people”, sort of “judge and jury”, get a balanced view of Trump.
To me it seems a. Weak argument to respond to vigorous defense of a person as somehow being equivalent to viewing that person as a “Messias’ (or a “Muhammad”) or perfect person. No, many Trumpsupporters view Trump only as less bad then the alternatives, or as one in which the advantages outweigh the disadvantages.
Mark Swan says
Ernie,—this site is as much about free speech as it is about exposing Islam.
If you had told me 20 years ago that Donald Trump would be President, I
would have laughed— but he is now—perhaps you may think there is some
other who could do a better job than he—I do not think in this present time
that such a person exists.
There are many who are angry at the President for wanting to get us out
from under the disgraceful predicaments his predecessors placed us under.
The President is an unscripted one man show, who is very familiar
with the word oops.
However imperfect he is, he is performing way above par
compared to any number of politicians in Washington.
If just a simple majority of them would roll-up there sleeves
each morning, join him on what needs to be done,
what a different country we could have.
chanah says
so your saying that Trump gave erdogan the greenlight to attack the Kurds hmm really you should know that erdogan have been fighting the Kurds for years even be4 Trump and that’s a fact