One might almost get the impression that Tlaib wants to sow hatred and division between different groups of Americans. Now what could possibly be the purpose of doing that?
“Tlaib: Use only blacks as Detroit’s facial recognition analysts,” by George Hunter, Detroit News, October 1, 2019 (thanks to Tim):
U.S. Rep. Rashida Tlaib told Detroit police Chief James Craig he should employ only black people on the department’s facial recognition team because “non-African Americans think African Americans all look the same.”
The Detroit Democrat made the statement during a tour of the Real Time Crime center, where monitors display live footage from video cameras on traffic lights and in and around businesses.
A day after Tlaib made the comment Monday, her spokesman said she was trying to convey the importance of accurately identifying black suspects in a city with an African American population of about 80%.
Police officials invited Tlaib to the facility inside Public Safety Headquarters to see how Detroit uses facial recognition software, after she criticized the technology in an Aug. 20 tweet. The congresswoman wrote: “@detroitpolice You should probably rethink this whole facial recognition bull—-.”
The tour, which lasted more than an hour, was often tense, with Tlaib and Craig wrangling over how the department uses the software, privacy issues, and concerns that the technology misidentifies a disproportionate number of darker-skinned people. A major point of contention: whether only black civilians should work in the crime center analyzing photos flagged by the software.
“Analysts need to be African Americans, not people that are not,” Tlaib told Craig. “I think non-African Americans think African Americans all look the same.
“I’ve seen it even on the House floor: People calling Elijah Cummings ‘John Lewis,’ and John Lewis ‘Elijah Cummings,’ and they’re totally different people,” Tlaib said, referring to the two longtime Democratic congressmen. “I see it all the time, and I love them because they go along with it.”
Craig replied: “I trust people who are trained, regardless of race; regardless of gender. It’s about the training.”
“I know,” Tlaib answered. “But it does make a huge difference with the analysts.”
After the tour, when a reporter asked whether she meant white people weren’t qualified to work in the crime center, Tlaib said: “No, I think there has actually been studies out that it’s hard for — African Americans would identify African Americans, or Latinos, same thing.”
Tlaib then was asked whether that means non-whites should be barred from working as crime analysts in mostly white communities. She replied: “Look it up.”…
Jack Cade says
She’s right. I can’t tell Vanessa Williams from Serena Williams. Tlaib is a waycist moron.
gravenimage says
I can’t tell Wendy Williams from Billy Dee Williams, I’m so ‘racist’–but I can’t tell them from Andy Williams, either, so maybe I just have poor eyesight…
Northern Virginiastan says
Hell I can’t tell Serena Williams from Venus Williams
revereridesagain says
I can’t tell Venus Williams from John Williams from Robin Williams. I’ve just GOT to stop putting off seeing that optometrist!
gravenimage says
🙂
James Pierce says
Is that Kareem Abdul-Jabbar I see standing on the corner? Oh. no nevermind, it’s Gary Coleman. I always get those two mixed up. They could be twin brothers, they look so much alike!
FYI says
Is it Samuel L Fishburn or Laurence Jackson;you know I always get those guys mixed up.
{Just kidding!they look absolutely nothing like each other haha…but there was a famous interview with Samuel L Jackson when he was wrongly assumed to be Laurence Fishburne.
See You Tube ……….Samuel l jackson laurence fishburne
“We may be all black and famous but we all don’t all look alike”}
Of course muhammed the WHITEST MAN THAT EVER LIVED ,wouldn’t know..
“And he sold him{a slave} for TWO of the Blacks”
Sahih Muslim3901
Did rashida “forget” that muhammed was the WHITEST man that ever lived and was the owner,buyer and seller of BLACK AFRICAN SLAVES who he famously ill-treated?
Of course she knows.
see You Tube
acts17apologetics
muhammed:the White prophet with black slaves
J D S says
Did muhammad ever actually exist???No historical proof that he did.
Or was He just made up by a bunch of disgruntled Muslims??
Any way concerning this fade congresswoman……………………
mortimer says
And Tlaib is an expert on everything because she was elected. Is she an expert on brain surgery too?
Nate Greene says
Touché sir!
Westman says
You know, maybe she has a point, uhh, I look at her angry face and immediately see Arnold Schwarzenegger. Then she starts swearing and I know it must not be him.
DBM echo says
“Then she starts swearing and I know [she’s impersonating either Joe Pesci or Robert DeNino]”
Westman says
Yes, right on.
mortimer says
By Tlaib’s own criterion, she should not be representing Americans who are predominantly white and Christian. Inconsistent.
Emilie Green says
“whites ‘think African Americans all look the same’”
Not too much bigotry, huh?
mortimer says
If the Leftards were consistent, that would be a career-ending remark. It’s never ‘racist’ when Muslims do it.
James Lincoln says
Let me see if I have this straight…
Facial recognition is done by analyzing a digital facial image using computer hardware and software – against a computer database.
So what RACE is the camera/computer/software ???
Salome says
There’s probably an Israeli connection somewhere . . .
Westman says
LOL!
Herb L says
It’s Trumps fault that the recognition systems are racist. They have been watching Facebook and came to that conclusion, but then again the programs took trump for an Orange and recommended that orange juice be on the panel to recognize those people. See what Trump did? he is making people eat babies because we are months away from destruction.
Westman says
Good question. If a religion can be a race, then software can be racist. After all, isn’t its purpose discrimination, denying those not recognized their opportunity for prosecution? And most of it is written by white people!
Seriously, accepting her claim as true,Tlaib’s demand would result in MORE prosecutions of blacks as more were correctly identified. As it is, those mis-identified by software will be cleared while the real suspects are passed over in the confusion.
mortimer says
She’s revealing her inner moron.
Rich says
The first problem she has is her mouth. She consistently uses vulgar language. This is not the way a U.S. Representative should talk in public. It indicates a lack of civility and education. Second, she need to a serious class in Middle Eastern history. She continues to claim she is a Palestinian. That is impossible. There is no such race of people. There is no Palestinian language. It just plain does not exist. If she had learned the history of the area she would know that. Unfortunately she continues to maintain her ignorance on the matter. Simply put, Palestine or Falastin has always been the name of a geographical area. The area has always been known as Israel since Biblical Times. The Roman Emperor Hadrian started calling it Falastin or Palestine in the first century of the CE just to aggravate the Hebrew population. That name stayed with the area up throughout history into WWI when the Sykes-Picot treaty between Britain and France in 1915 gave control of the area to Britain after the war in 1918 and the defeat of the Ottoman Empire. That “British Mandate” continued until after WWII when the United Nations ended the Mandate and the granted the State of Israel its true homeland. President Truman signed the final agreement for the United States. The land has been the home of various Arab tribes, mostly Heshamites and others as well as Hebrews since Biblical Times. If anything Talib might be a Heshamite from the Kingdom of Jordan, which incidentally was also a country that didn’t exist until after WWI. She is NOT a Palestinian because that race has never existed on this planet.
Infidel says
As a people, the ‘Palestinians’ may be fictional, but to the woke Left, they’re the chosen ones – right there on par w/ Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings. Just remember 2016 – when the woke Left was pissed after the Wikileaks emails that showed how Bernie Sanders had been robbed and were protesting at the DNC convention, they chose to fly Palestinian flags to vent their protests. Somehow, if you objected to the Democrat primary being rigged, you must have been a Palestinian.
The real usage of the term ‘Palestinian’ was to refer to Jews: the other locals there were Arabs. Arafat did the greatest rebranding exercise in history after 1967, when he re-branded Arabs who lived in Judea, Samaria and Gaza as ‘Palestinians’. Until 1967, world opinion had been on the side of the Israelis simply based on a cursory look at a map: the Arabs had an empire stretching from Morocco to Iraq, and Syria to Sudan/Somalia. While Israel was something one had to strain one’s eyes to see. By rebranding them as ‘Palestinians’, Arafat successfully flipped the script from one where Israel was David and the Arabs were Goliath to one where Israel became Goliath.
Another thing about the region – before WWI, when they were either under Arab or Turkish rule, not only was there no Palestine or Jordan, the way the territories were split were along the Euphrates. Everything West of the Euphrates was called Syria (in other words, the entire Levant), and it was headquartered in Damascus, not Jerusalem, Amman or Beirut. East of the Euphrates was Iraq. If the Arabs wanted to be true to history, they’d try and merge Jordan, ‘Palestine’ and Lebanon w/ Syria. But they wouldn’t do that b’cos that would mean handing over power to an Alawite strongman and risk de-Sunnifying the Levant.
So the Arabs need to pick what they wanna do. If they wanna go by pre-WWI history, they should abolish Jordan and Lebanon and merge it w/ Syria, and recognize Assad as the boss. If they wanna go by post WWII ground realities, they should recognize Israel, drop demands for the right of return and re-settle the Palestinians in Arab countries that have a labor shortage (which they know given the number of Asian expatriate laborers in their countries)
James says
I think though that Lebanon has a big Christian minority, it was equal or bigger than the Muslim one until the population boom moved the Muslims to a bigger share of the population, and Palestinian terrorists came in from Jordan and started the civil war. That was what Brigitte Gabriel says about it. So Lebanon would be a “multicultural” state, it was even successful as such until the Muslims started persecuting the Christians. But that is another story.
Amy Veloz says
Excellent post. I wish more people would take the time to understand the history of that area.
Peter says
She’s kind of right there.
While a student working as a night clerk at at motel I was robbed by black man with a gun. He only got $60, the rest hidden elsewhere.
The police came with a few mug-shot books. While going over all the mug pictures I couldn’t help myself and said “they all look alike to me, but he was black as coal” I couldn’t ID any of them because too many looked like the robber.
Later, they contacted me and asked if I would come to the station to witness a line-up.
That was hard too but I pointed one out.
Turned out the guy I pointed out was a one of the stand-ins to fill the lineup.
O-Boy.
I did correctly ID the guy’s getaway car – 1966 Olds Toronado with front brown primer paint.
They nailed the robber on another attempted robbery.
The police were very understanding, it’s called miss-identification across racial lines. They put no pressure on me to nail anyone in particular (the robber WAS in the lineup). They just eliminated me as a reliable witness.
somehistory says
Peter
Really, you shouldn’t feel bad. Eye witness testimony is very unreliable, even when the perp and witness are of the same race. In a line up, the police are supposed to have other people who fit the basic description, which probably makes it more difficult to pick the right one.
The best id comes when the witness actually knows the perp. Even then, mistakes are made. A woman was raped, and she thought, and said, it was her husband who was not home at the time. He was arrested and sent to prison for a very long time
The police want and need other evidence to make a case stick and in order to arrest the right guy.
There was a case where a guy was picked out of a lineup , tried and sent to prison. He was innocent. Because the guy who was guilty was still free, he continued to commit crimes. When he was eventually caught, the evidence was there for the crime for which the other guy was paying. Then, they showed photos of the two and they could have been brothers.
Another case I recall was where a woman was watching tv, listening to a guy on a talk show. While watching, she was attacked by a guy who broke into her home. When she was taken to the station to view a lineup, she saw again the guy she had been watching on tv and said , “He’s the one.”
It was only because he had been at the tv station when she was attacked that they could immediately dismiss her accusation.
gravenimage says
All true, Somehistory–Peter should not feel bad. Eyewitnesses who are crime victims have been further stressed, as well. This is why criminals are seldom convicted on eyewitness testimony alone.
James Pierce says
I was robbed on the street once in high school and my father took me to the police station to report it. They had me look through some binders with mug shots to see if I could identify the guy. There was one binder for Hispanic guys and one combined for whites and Asians. There were 12 binders for black guys.
somehistory says
That’s quite the number. The prisons generally prove out the numbers, though.
If they had arrested someone they thought might have been the perp, they would have limited the number of photos you had to pour through, only giving you enough for a “photo lineup” or they would have brought in some guys that looked a lot like the guy they arrested.
Looking through hundreds of photos has to be very tiresome, but if they don’t have someone they think it is, it’s all they can do.
tgusa says
“Use only blacks as Detroit’s facial recognition analysts”
Detroit utilizes facial recognition tech? How dare they!
This appears to be an issue of gross cultural appropriation as the man considered the father of facial recognition is Woodrow Wilson “Woody” Bledsoe.
Two way street and all that.
Infidel says
Why does she even care – she’s not African American, and the police chief who showed her around rebutted her arguments quite eloquently. Besides, contrary to what she told Nancy Pelosi, she’s not a woman of color: Palestinians are Arabs, and recognized as white as far as US races go. And that’s how they like to be recognized.
Honestly, I can’t tell her from Pramilla Jayapal, so her argument that facial recognition would fail only for some races is bizarre
James Pierse says
She cares because she’s one of those people who feels she has to be outraged on behalf of others. Kind of like the whiny white liberals offended by the name of the Washington Redskins.
Joe says
There are light skinned Arabs with light hair and blue eyes and their are dark Arabs. Arab is not a race.
gravenimage says
Yes–and Islam is even less a race.
Amy Veloz says
She certainly is a fine representative of a palestinian/muslim Take a good hard look at her and her buddies. This is what you get when they are voted into office. Everyone should be aware that 95% of all muslims vote and they vote as they are directed by their leaders. This is the beginning of a long term plan to take over our country from within.
somehistory says
The average citizen may not be aware that eye-witness testimony, as in ‘Yes, he’s the one,” or “No, it’s not him,” is very unreliable. Unless the eye-witness actually knows the perp, he/she is just as likely to id someone who did not do the crime.
But, we have all learned…some of us sooner, some later…that moslims in general are experts on everything, esp when one has been elected to an office with a lot of responsibility and authority. But, it’s all in their, uh, minds. Er, imaginations.
When I read this yesterday and saw that the Chief is a Black man and totally disagreed with this moslim creep, I was so glad that he put her in her place. Of course, she didn’t realize it and didn’t stay there, but continued to say he was wrong.
The computer program is designed to do the work. Much like the computer programs that analyze fingerprints and DNA. At one time, finger prints were examined by a human, and it took hours of painstaking work to make a correct match. The worker had to be highly trained so as to eliminate mistakes.
Now, the computers at the FBI can go through thousands of prints in the twinkle of an eye. The person running the program still has to be trained, but it doesn’t take nearly as much.
This software that is meant to recognize a face will only match someone who is in the system…white, black or undetermined moslim like this “rep” for islam, tlaib. The tech is trained to work the program and it doesn’t matter what is his/her color, but their training and integrity.
Speaking of which, tlaib has neither.
KWJ says
Hillary Clinton once quipped with a laugh that all blacks look the same. An old trope. (Pretty sure it was when she was First Lady.)
Facial recognition does have a problem with dark blacks. But that doesn’t necessarily mean black analysts would recognize another black person better or the same as a white person. It’s not as if blacks haven’t recognized the right person.
As far as calling black Congressman the wrong name, I get these two sisters’ names mixed up for years; both have black hair, one long, one short and look different otherwise. (These are non-blacks.) I have name mental problem. So, call them the wrong name isn’t because they’re black. Even my parents would accidentally call us the wrong names.
She’s an ass. That’s language she likes. I live in the city and interact with black people constantly and I don’t much appreciate her trying to extend her own biases or bigotry on others, especially whites.
Many Muslims are racist, especially in the Middle East whether black Africans or Asians. There is a serious lack of black citizens in Palestine, Saudi Arabia, Syria and those M.E. countries. Black Americans are repeatedly used as tools, even more so by those purporting to help them. Some people hide their racism like micro racism like what the call micro aggression.
somehistory says
It has been discovered that other races can’t tell Whites apart any better than many Whites can tell other races apart, one individual from another.
People are generally attracted to those of their own race, with some exceptions. There is hardly a rule that doesn’t have an exception when it comes to human behavior.
This moslim creep is just out to make trouble. She is using her position…as does the other moslim creepy woman…to gain entrance to different venues and cause upset if possible.
She is foul-mouthed and foul of mind and heart. And she is basically just pretending to ‘know’ something in order to stir up racism, as if there is not enough of that.
The criminal investigation, criminal law, etc. courses I took all show that one person seeing another commit a crime and then picking that person out of a line up, or a photo lineup, is highly unreliable. But there are programs that are more reliable in making a match of one face with another. This is especially true when the skeleton is used, identifying the bone structure.
I live in a city where there are a lot of Blacks. In the neighborhood where I actually live, Blacks outnumber Whites. Some of them look like others. But, the ones I see most often, I can tell from the others. It’s a matter of becoming familiar with the different faces, the tone of the skin as well as the features and the hair, etc. If I live here long enough, it may become easier for me to tell them apart than to tell Whites that I see not as often, apart.
Hugh Fitzgerald says
Tlaib is in a competition with Omar — it’s so hard to tell them apart! — for who can make he most idiotic and offensive remark. With this remark I think Tlaib may have pulled – just barely — ahead.
Infidel says
No, Omar is qualitatively superior in the stupidity index – Tlaib doesn’t even come close! Not just that, all the stereotypes that one may have heard about Somalis being in-breeds – Omar seems to confirm every one of them
mortimer says
Both women are in a race to the bottom. How low can you go, Tlaib?
gravenimage says
Tlaib: Use only blacks as Detroit’s facial recognition analysts, whites “think African Americans all look the same”
…………………..
Right–nothing racist about this…sarc/off
Never mind that Detroit Police Chief Craig–who is himself black–said, “I trust people who are trained, regardless of race; regardless of gender. It’s about the training.”
By the way, Tlaib herself is basically white. I guess like Linda Sarsour she is ‘protected’ from whiteness by being Muslim…
Infidel says
Just what I noted: when she warned Pelosi against singling them out b’cos they (the squad members) were women of color, she happened to be the exception to the rule. In fact, had she been Christian, there’s no way she’d have been recognized as a woman of color
I like Chief Craig’s interview w/ Tucker Carlson an hour ago, and he was just the right guy to totally debunk Tlaib’s moronic demands
Joe says
AOC isn’t exactly “of color”, except when she has a sun tan (as with plenty of white people). I don’t understand this “of color” thing. There are swarthy European-ancestry “white” people who are darker than AOC, and nor does AOC have Native American features. Does speaking Spanish and being from Puerto Rico make you a person of color? Why?
Joe says
And how well does she speak Spanish? I never heard a word of Spanish spoken by her.
Hugh Fitzgerald says
I’ve been having trouble distinguishing Lena Horne from Sister Rosetta Tharpe, Fats Waller from Barak Obama, Billie Holiday from Jessye Norman, Duke Ellington from Louis Armstrong. Now I know why.
Westman says
Similar problem with confusing Jessye Norman and Bill Cosby.
gravenimage says
🙂
Giacomo Latta says
Tlaib would have the same problem with the distinguishing, mainly because she doesn’t have the foggiest who any of these people are.
E T says
Tlaib and Omar are two placements of the Muslim Brotherhood hoods. They are there to keep working on America—more devision. Neither one of them should have ever been allowed to run for any public office. Call me Islamophobic, call me whatever you want but DON’T VOTE FOR A MUSLIM. MOSQUE AND STATE ARE NOT SEPARATE. The time to stop the Muslim con is right now.
Nancy says
This is called racial discrimination against whites.
abad says
Tlaib is a racist herself. Maybe she should fly on a magic carpet back to the Middle East.
Infidel says
She tried that some months ago, but couldn’t put visiting her grandma over participating in BDS demonstrations. Like the president put it, the only winner in that situation was her grandmother, who didn’t as a result have to see her
AP says
Not seeing her is like Christmas, so much fun!
Dan says
About 30 years ago I read a study about this very thing.
Do African Americans actually all look alike to whites?
The study tested how ALL other races, look to ALL other races and here’s what they found out.
Every race of course, has their similar general characteristics, eye, lips and nose shapes, and what testing found out was when a baby starts learning to recognize faces, obviously and largely among its immediate family, its brain, saturated with SIMILAR features, develops the ability to DISTINGUISH those similar features on different faces.
Basically, all us round eyed whites all look the same to Asians.
Asians all look the same to Native Americans.
Native Americans look the same to African Americans.
Etc., etc., etc.
The three magazines I subscribed to were Discover Magazine, Popular Science, and Scientific Americana, so it was probably in one of those.
Also, in a frustrated situation, people still get names mixed up even with people they KNOW.
How many times did your Mom, mad at you, go through every one of your sibling’s names before getting to yours?
Which made her even more frustrated.
James says
There was a video on Fox News today where they interviewed the Detroit police chief. He said that when the evaluators are trained for the job, it does not matter what race they have, they are just as good. And the judgments are checked so that more than one evaluator is involved. He said that Tlaib relied on a study of people who were not trained to recognize races. I myself cannot recognize for example the difference among the faces of many people of any race, including my own, in movies. Someone with more training and perhaps more talent could do the job well, no matter their race. To imply that was not possible is probably racist on the part of Tlaib, although of course Democrats are never racists and never wrong when they accuse others of being racists.
Angemon says
Is that so? How and why?
Battle says
As a previous reply stated she “makes me want to vomit.” He was right. Please do not eat too much before a report about her.
Battle says
When Andre Serrano’s painting of Christ in urine was reported I felt the same way.
Crusades Were Right says
Heaven forbid that the government might have someone on the payroll who thinks whole groups of people are the same! Lol
Phil Copson says
I can’t tell the difference between Rashida Tlaib and a vicious racist – what does that make me ?
Dan says
Well.
Since gender, and everything else, is fluid maybe one day you’re an islamophobe.
And the next you’re a neo nazi skin head.
And on another you’re a K.K.K. grand wizard.
Then of course a few times you must relapse into one of the previous until something new comes around.
Like maybe say, believing all animals are intellectually inferior to mankind–. Oops! Sorry. PEOPLE kind I mean – you’d be a speciest.
Or would it be a specieophobe?
Dang, that’s kind of too many vowels strung together there isn’t it?
So wouldn’t that make me a vowelophobe?
Or you consonantophobics?
Aaaaaaaaaaagh.
No wonder people confess to anything under torture.
“Yes! Yes. I’m whatever you say already. Just please. Please. Make it stop!
gravenimage says
Good one, Phil.
Mr. Cohen says
Daniel Greenfield said:
“The Democrats have made it clear that
if they win the presidential election, they
will restore the flow of cash to the terrorists.”
SOURCE: Loyal and Disloyal Jews
by Daniel Greenfield, 2019 September 1
http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2019/09/loyal-and-disloyal-jews.html
Mr. Cohen says
The estimated net worth of Rashida Tlaib is $800,000 – far above the average American.
This is the same Rashida Tlaib who pretends to be an oppressed minority.
The estimated net worth of Ilhan Omar is $2.15 (from http://www.dreshare.com).
This is the same Ilhan Omar who pretends to be an oppressed minority.
Koosemo says
Trashida the foul mouthed fakestinian
Ugly charmoota
TattoedMan77 says
Kunte Kinte is certainly getting uppity.
Denny Penticoff says
I don’t need a facial recognition program to identify a moron. Wake up Michigan! This woman is a clear and present danger to America. A terrorist sympathizer does not belong in Congress.
E T says
Ha ha, the study stated that Asians all look the same to native Americans, this might help Elizabeth Warren somehow.
s says
Who put that nonsense in her mind? That is the most IGNORANT & Hateful Comment I have ever heard come from the mouth of a Tax Paid Employee of the People… an outrageous insult to myself ….
and so what is her outlook, why she must believe ALL WHITE SKINNED PEOPLE LOOK ALIKE!
E T says
She is a Muslim, elected with the help of the Muslim Brotherhood hoods. Today for the first time, I am beginning to think we are losing the war with Islam. The barbarians just may have outsmarted us, I am tired of being yelled at and cursed at for speaking out about the rot of Islam. Canadians you better get off your assets and get out and vote for Bernier, don’t listen to the bloody idiots who represent the press in this country, they are promoting Islam. Clueless collaboators. THINK for God’s sake think.
somehistory says
I’be been thinking about what she said and I think I could tell the difference between two Blacks. Let’s say, Sidney Poitier and Sherman Hemsley. Definitely.
However,, this creepy moslim doesn’t know what Truth and honesty are. Just makes stuff up as she goes along, lying her way to a very bad destiny.
Tom_X says
Just another day in the Islamic war on the West, and using the Democratic Party and Minorities, they want to dismantle America. And for those who were unaware, these actions are a promoted form of Sociological Warfare… Prior to Obama taking office, much of this was getting documented through FBI and Defense Intelligence, but mysteriously started disappearing after he was elected. Western Countries will be destroyed if this “anti-xeno” and “tolerance” movements prevail because it’s not about race or religion, it’s about an enemy fully engaged in full-spectrum warfare.
Joe says
African Americans in fact are incredibly diverse in looks, due in part to mixing with other races. So this is a stereotyping, racist comment by Tlaib, that reflects ignorance and her own preconceived notion that African Americans all look alike.