US officials and the establishment media need to make up their mind. On the one hand we are told that the Islamic State, and jihad terrorism in general, has nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism, that terrorists have “hijacked” Islam, as Karl Rove repeated on Fox yesterday, and then we see the world’s biggest terror leader being given Islamic burial rites, just like the last terror leader. So which is it, State Department? Which is it, Reuters? Are those who recognize that Islamic jihad terrorists are working from texts of the Qur’an and Sunnah racist, bigoted “Islamophobes,” or is Islamic terrorism actually Islamic? You can’t have it both ways, but you probably will anyway.
“Baghdadi given burial at sea, afforded religious rites: U.S. officials,” by Phil Stewart, Reuters, October 28, 2019:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The United States has given the remains of Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi a burial at sea and afforded him religious rites according to Islamic custom after he was killed in a U.S. commando raid in Syria on Saturday, three officials told Reuters….
The U.S. officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, did not disclose where the ritual was performed or how long it lasted. Two officials said they believed his remains were delivered to the sea from an aircraft.
U.S. Army General Mark Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told a Pentagon news briefing on Monday that the U.S. military disposed of Baghdadi’s remains “appropriately, in accordance with our (standard operating procedures) and in accordance with the law of armed conflict.”…
In the case of bin Laden, his body was transported to the aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson. It was washed before being covered in a white sheet, and religious remarks translated into Arabic were read over bin Laden’s corpse….
Mr. Cohen says
Muslim terrorists should be buried with pigs, because
this might give them an incentive to quit their terrorism.
When Muslim terrorists murdered Daniel Pearl,
simply because he was a Jew, they did not
give him any Jewish funeral rites.
So why should terrorists be given Islamic funeral rites?
Muslim liars love to accuse Israel of genocide,
but how can this be true when Israel’s Arab
population increases every year?
Muslim liars love to accuse Israel of apartheid,
but how can this be true Israel’s Supreme Court and
parliament [Knesset] include many Arab members?
===================================
Mr. Stephen M. Flatow [an attorney and father
of Alisa Flatow, who was murdered in an Iranian-
sponsored Palestinian terrorist attack in 1995] said:
“…Israel ended its rule over 98 percent [98%]
of the Palestinian Arabs back in [year] 1995.
It is the Palestinian Authority that rules them.
The gang [of Far-Leftists and Progressives]
knows that Israel does not rule the area.
……………………………..
So why do the Progressive Networkers persist
in promoting the fantasy that Israel rules over the Arabs?
Because demonizing Israel as the occupier galvanizes their followers.
It gives them something to be upset about…”
SOURCE: Ten Jewish groups unite
against Israeli democracy by Stephen M. Flatow
http://www.jns.org/opinion/ten-jewish-groups-unite-against-israeli-democracy/
Trick_or_Treat says
Rolled in pig shit and fed to the sharks. Like bin-Laden.
Well, I’d really like to believe bin-Laden really was splashed and then fed to the sharks off South Africa, and not actually given a hair cut, a beard trim, and a ‘safe house’ somewhere in Minnesota.
commonsense says
To accord this monster a religious sendoff (even if the religion itself is malevolent, which it is) was an act of stupidity on the part of our military, or whoever advised them to do so. Firstly, Baghdadi and his army were not from any internationally recognized sovereign state – arguably then, the consequences of any actions committed by this band of murdering beasts does not fall within the purview of any international agreements pertaining to treatment of enemy combatants captured as a result of conventional warfare. Secondly, to have dispatched a dead mass murderer in any manner suggesting deference to him and his religion sends a message that we acknowledge his humanity, and possibly fear backlash from his numberless sympathizers within the Islamic Ummah. No – his mutilated remains should have been unceremoniously cremated and his ashes strewn to the winds, or merely thrown without fanfare into a cesspit. Our country continues to pull its punches instead of demonstrating that we can and will deal ruthlessly with our enemies, and will blow them to hell without remorse if necessary.
Lorna Denton says
Well said. An awakening needs to occur over many things that are political.
Mr. Cohen says
Muslim terrorists should be buried with pigs, because
this might give them an incentive to quit their terrorism.
When Muslim terrorists murdered Daniel Pearl,
simply because he was a Jew, they did not
give him any Jewish funeral rites.
So why should terrorists be given Islamic funeral rites?
Muslim liars love to accuse Israel of genocide,
but how can this be true when Israel’s Arab
population increases every year?
Muslim liars love to accuse Israel of apartheid,
but how can this be true Israel’s Supreme Court and
parliament [Knesset] include many Arab members?
===================================
Mr. Stephen M. Flatow [an American lawyer
and father of Alisa Flatow, who was murdered in an
Iranian-sponsored Palestinian terrorist attack in 1995] said:
“…Israel ended its rule over 98 percent [98%]
of the Palestinian Arabs back in [year] 1995.
It is the Palestinian Authority that rules them.
The gang [of Far-Leftists and Progressives]
knows that Israel does not rule the area.
……………………………..
So why do the Progressive Networkers persist in
promoting the fantasy that Israel rules over the Arabs?
Because demonizing Israel as the occupier galvanizes
their followers. It gives them something to be upset about…”
SOURCE: Ten Jewish groups unite
against Israeli democracy by Stephen M. Flatow
http://www.jns.org/opinion/ten-jewish-groups-unite-against-israeli-democracy/
Westman says
Did the US forget about Kayla Meuller? That pig-rapist Baghdadi deserved to be cremated with pig refuse and the ashes fed to pigs.
Rites for this vile animal? Why not dig up all the despots of the past century and give them some honorable rites? Maybe a Nazi salute to the casket?
Apparently there IS a deep state and it has lost its mind.
somehistory says
Yes, of course, after he blew himself and three of his children to bits, the military guys found enough of his ‘remains’ to scoop up and take to the sky in order to drop him into the ocean for the sharks and crabs to lunch and munch on.
moslms didn’t like obl being buried at sea…saying he was supposed to be be buried on land. Probably thinking the same thing about this ‘bag’ creep.
Why not just wait a week or three before doing anything, then moslims can fume about the delay.
Wicked Queen Jezebel was “dropped” from her window to the hard ground below where dogs had dinner on her. Religious burials are not necessary for evil persons…and this includes terror leaders.
But, in the end, the dead go to the place they are destined to go….however their remains are treated.
Ray Jarman says
Burning someone to death while caged, being beaten and raped then beheaded, marched to the waters’ edge, thrown off buildings and other types of torturous deaths perpetrated by this cretin, al-Baghdadi, should have been enough to deny him any rites of any religion, much less his own. Maybe Stalin should have been reprimanded for mutilating Hitler’s body after the Soviet military took Hitler’s body to Moscow where Solzhenitsyn relates the acts of Stalin’s revenge. I am so tired of America’s concerns about how the world may judge us. Baghdadi deserved no rites what-so-ever.
Beneath the Veil of Consciousness says
Deep sixing the reality of Islam to the bottom of the deep blue sea along with so many other aspects of reality. BTW- if he didn’t represent true Islam, why was he given an Islamic burial?
Lydia Church says
It’s a walking contradiction. He was ‘bad’ enough to hunt down and kill, but ‘good’ enough to be given a proper burial. Huh?
And ‘terrorists have hijacked islam’? islam by nature does the hijacking and the terrorism. But these folks obviously can’t read…
revereridesagain says
Because no matter what a monster he was or how many lives he destroyed WE MUST NOT OFFEND A RELIGION. Especially not this one.
James Lincoln says
And here I thought that all along, ISIS has nothing to do with Islam…(sarc / off)
Mario Alexis Portella says
And I thought that things were different under Trump. Obama “laid you rest” I
Osama bin Laden, Trump “lays to rest” Baghdadi. No difference!
gravenimage says
I agree that giving Baghdadi a formal burial is absurd–but that does not mean there is no difference between Obama and Trump. Did Obama move to limit Muslims flooding into the US? Did he move the American Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem? Of course not.
Mario Alexis Portella says
Trump and Obama, no difference! Why the hell are they giving those bastards ceremonial rights?
Mario Alexis Portella says
I don’t understand why we’re giving those bastards ceremonial rites as if we have to respect the trash that they were?!
Save Europe says
So as not to offend the Saudis and Qataris. Then the West can continue selling weapons to these scum – who are our enemies – and allow them to invest money, heavily into our countries. Madness. Utter folly.
Angemon says
My two cents? Whatever remained of Baghdadi after he blew himself and his kids up was tossed to the nearest trash bin, and the part about it being given a “proper islamic burial” is window-dressing.
PRCS says
Muslim apologists repeated, over and over again about UBL, “he’s not a real Muslim”. And then complained that he hadn’t been buried in accordance with Islam’s dictates.
Same with ABAB.
Always wanting to ‘have it both ways”.
Blurb1000 says
Are there no hungry pigs anymore?
awake says
Did they shovel is pieces overboard like chum?
Rarely says
It’s got nothing to do with his religion or showing him deference or respect or anything like it. It’s simply a matter of us acting civilized and not like barbarians. It shouldn’t matter to us how his followers are going to interpret it. We are not accountable to them.
Besides what part(s) of him was left to bury? A toe?
ElizabethoftheTrinity says
I agree. We did it not because of who he was, but because of who we are.
gravenimage says
US gives Islamic State’s al-Baghdadi burial at sea with Islamic rites
………………..
Why did we have to show this thug respect?
don vito says
I have read that because of the forces of the suicide vest explosion the body disintegrates and all that is left is the head. I have seen such pictures of the remains of these…murderers remains, from the time such actions were commonplace in Israel and sure enough nobody only head was what was left. So if the suicide/murder vest was used, chances are that only bagdaddi’s head was (pukes) buried. Not in agreement with this at all. Weak, very weak Mr. President.
Thomas Richard says
So, tell me……How do the Jihadis’ honor our dead? Yah…..right!
jca reid says
Should have simply dumped his carcass out at sea smeared in pig fat & a load of chum to bring in the sharks.
AP says
Buried at sea? Bet the fish are puking about now.
Patriotliz says
BINGO!
If OBL and Baghdadi “hijacked” and “perverted” the so-called “peaceful religion” of Islam why give them a Muslim burial? You would think that the purportedly peaceful Muslims would be outraged and insulted that these monsters were acknowledged as Muslims in good standing at the time of their burial. In addition, Baghdadi committed suicide w/o taking out any infidels with him which I think is not sanctioned by Islamic faith.
But on the other hand, I don’t really see any Muslim burial as being particularly sacred or reverential (like a Christian burial) because Islam itself is an abomination of religion and is evil. Better to consider a “muslim burial” as some sort of satanic ritual since he’s going straight to Hell anyhow.
Naildriver says
What needs to happen is a raid on Mecca, where all the Muslims most valued shrines and objects , like the black lick rock, are confiscated and then buried — dumped unceremoniously! at sea.
This continued patronizing and enabling of Islam must stop.
Is there no one out there, not totally on Prozac or Valium who has the guts and resolve to fight Islam, the most vile enemy to mankind since the Roman Empire’s fall?
Between the medication and greed — nevermind Islam’s own threats and violence to silence any who object to it, the West is enabling and assuring Islam’s existence influence and power long beyond the time it would have withered away and died upon its own accord.
UNCLE VLADDI says
FFS – WHAT “islamic burial rites” involve burying those desert-dwelling savage nomads “AT SEA!”?
Seriously, Robert – I’m pretty well-versed in the sharia, and I have NEVER seen anything like that!
James Whitney says
“… terrorists have “hijacked” Islam, as Karl Rove repeated on Fox yesterday …”
Very disappointing, Karl Rove should no better. Too many people with their heads in the sand.
waspy says
If Apostasy was banned, no women were to be married to someones grandad (or anyone else) if they didn’t want to be, little boys bottoms were taboo and muzzlehims were told that the heavenly virgins don’t exist, then there would only be 27 muzzlehims in the whole world.
Donovan Nuera says
I have a feeling that if the US Army had gotten to Berlin ahead of the Red Army and were able to procure Hitler’s intact carcass from the bunker, they would have tied it to front of a Sherman tank or onto the hood of Patton’s command vehicle and paraded it back to Paris along streets lined with columns of battle-weary but exhilarated Allied troops and civilians…then perhaps embarking from Calais on a ship to sail up the Thames and drop him off for more parading around London for a week before disposing of him in a pig farm outside Coventry or having that group of Czech Jewish kids who were rescued by that selfless Englishman who got them smuggled out by train in 1938 burn him in a pit. Likewise, NOBODY would have complained if this actually happened!!! It would have been awesome!!!
Vic says
IMHO–This burial is in keeping with the West sense of decorum, but mostly used for bringing closure to a matter. Consider this–The Terrorists/Traitors are really, really dead. We have dealt with them. Justice has been done.
Perhaps it might sound politically incorrect, think about the grand send offs we gave to “Poppy” Bush and No-Name McCain, in recognition to their “service to the country”–for the sake of their families (who may or may not have know who they really were, what they did, how they enriched themselves or how many people died in their wake–think The Godfather), and who in different ways aided and abetted ABAB and UBL.
I am not surprised or consider it incongruent when I see this happening, now and in the future. I just think that Justice has been done on earth. These persons’ souls are now in the hands of our Creator, the Righteous Judge of us all. God have mercy on them.
Jason says
This is insane. Would they have done this for Hilter? Pol Pot? Fidel Castro? or any other enemy of America? This just shows how dhimmified the West has become.