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Vice mag explains “why islam is inherently queer”

Oct 5, 2019 11:00 am By Robert Spencer

Here is an attempt to shore up the Leftist/Islamic alliance that, not surprisingly, founders on the facts.

Amrou Al-Kadhi writes: “Prophet Muhammed once said, ‘Islam began as something strange and will return to being something strange, so give blessings to those who are strange.’ Amen Muhammed! ”

Yeah, but Muhammad is also depicted as saying this: “The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, ‘Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Loot, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.’” (Sunan Abu Dawud 4462)

Also, the Qur’an contains numerous condemnations of homosexual activity: “And [We had sent] Lot when he said to his people, ‘Do you commit such immorality as no one has preceded you with from among the worlds? Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a transgressing people.’…And We rained upon them a rain [of stones]. Then see how was the end of the criminals.” (Qur’an 7:80-84)

Amrou Al-Kadhi doesn’t mention any of this. It doesn’t fit his narrative. But unfortunately for him, many of his coreligionists are well aware of these passages and others like them.

“why islam is inherently queer,” by Amrou Al-Kadhi, Vice, October 3, 2019 (thanks to Paul):

…Prophet Muhammed once said, “Islam began as something strange and will return to being something strange, so give blessings to those who are strange.” Amen Muhammed! If you replace the world Islam with “people”, the sentence could feasibly be the slogan for a queer sex-positive disco in Berlin. As I had learnt from first-hand experience, the West has limited most people’s perceptions of what a Muslim looks like – we’re either terrorists, terrifying, or terrified. Cultural representation has a lot to answer for here; pretty much every Arab actor will tell you that since 9/11, they’ve been in business, but for the wrong reason. American networks, in particular, are hooked on narratives where white male soldiers gun down Arabs like we’re vermin. So it’s unsurprising that most people would find the idea of the Quran having pockets of queerness as ludicrous as Katy Perry’s claims to cultural authenticity (the right-wing media has made a particular meal out of positioning Islam as a complete threat to Western civil rights) – but ideas about Islam are limited, and mask the subatomic complexities hidden deep inside the faith.

On my rereadings of the Quran, I came across this passage about Allah. It says that Allah is the “One who shapes you in the womb as He Pleases.” (Quran 3:6), and that “of His signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth and the differences of your tongues and colours” (Quran 30:22). When I came across this, it was the first time in my life that I felt connected to the Quran without an urge to repel it. I could just hold the book as though it was meant to be in my hands, like a calm, sleeping kitten. There it was, in this ancient “evil” text, the idea that variance and difference among human bodies was all part of Allah’s plan. Perhaps Allah views human beings in the same way I used to think about marine aquatics – as a collection of ever-changing, different bodies, all coexisting as a formless mass unified by light and love. I had only ever pictured Allah as a fascistic punisher who built the world on strict rigid lines – but the more I discovered about Islam, the less this seemed to be the case….

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  1. Ska says

    Oct 5, 2019 at 11:11 am

    Incomprehensible rubbish!

    • mortimer says

      Oct 5, 2019 at 12:04 pm

      The following words of Mohammed are fairly comprehensible … Islam is a strange mess and causes violence … and Muslims will fall away from it and eventually abandon it …

      [T]he Messenger of Allah (Mohammed) observed: Verily Islam started as something strange and it would again revert (to its old position) of being strange just as it started, and it would recede between the two mosques just as the serpent crawls back into its hole.” [Sahih Muslim, Book 001, Number 0270.]

      Mohammed’s predictions of Islam crawling back like a snake to where it came from were repeated extensively in several other hadiths:

      “Belief returns and goes back to Medina like a snake.” (Sahih Bukhari, 3.30.100.)

      “Muslims will be the scum and the rubbish even though their numbers may increase; the enemy will not fear Muslims anymore. This will be because the Muslims will love the world and dislike death…
      (Sunaan Abu Dawud, 37.4284.)

      “Muhammad’s contemporaries were the best Muslims; after three generations, the Muslims will be mainly treacherous and untrustworthy.” (Sahih Bukhari, 5.57.2, 3.)

      “There will be much killing during the last days of the Muslim.”
      (Sahih Bukhari, 9.88.183.)

      “Verily, Belief returns and goes back to Medina as a snake returns and goes back to its hole (when in danger).”
      (Volume 3, Book 30, Number 100: Narrated Abu Huraira.)

      Mohammed also predicted a large movement of apostasy out of Islam:

      “Muslims will diminish in number and they will go back to where they started [before Islam]” – (Sunaan Abu Dawud, 2.19.3029.)

      MOHAMMED IS RIGHT ABOUT MUSLIMS LEAVING ISLAM. 10 million are leaving every year.

  2. John says

    Oct 5, 2019 at 11:20 am

    Let’s see if he goes on a book signing tour to Egypt, Jordan, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia…… He can set up a booth in Mecca…….

    • mortimer says

      Oct 5, 2019 at 12:07 pm

      Don’t forget Indonesia … Lesbian Irshad Manji wrote ‘The Trouble with Islam’, then went on a book tour to Indonesia, but left there before they stoned her.

    • Honest Ali says

      Oct 5, 2019 at 12:15 pm

      I will contribute money to help him on his book signing tour… 🙂

  3. Raj says

    Oct 5, 2019 at 11:32 am

    What about tossing gays off the top of buildings??? Is that considered a blessing to those murdered with cold blood?? Or maybe they just doing them a favour to speed up the meeting with heavenly justice or what. ?????

  4. Kesselman says

    Oct 5, 2019 at 11:33 am

    The mozzie babble is uncomprehensible. Muddle uttered muddle thought.

  5. LytchZam says

    Oct 5, 2019 at 11:55 am

    Say What?!?

    The only reason his az$ isn’t thrown off a building is because his incomprehensible gobble-de-gook “confuses” many in the West which furthers the interests of Islamists.

    • mortimer says

      Oct 5, 2019 at 12:13 pm

      Amrou Al-Kadhi’s gobble-de-gook doesn’t ‘confuse’ Muslims in Afghastlistan or KSA … they would know what to do and would do it fairly soon after he showed up in a pink wig, makeup and a dress.

      His gay pals in the West must think he’s sooo rebellious to say such things under the free speech provided in UK.

      Is he a ‘MUSLIM’ drag queen? He is a drag queen, certainly, but a Muslim in name only (MINO).

      • FYI says

        Oct 5, 2019 at 12:27 pm

        Maybe he is channelling his “prophet”:his WHITE “prophet” muhamed,the WHITEST man that ever lived {…with the black african slaves}

        So it seems that muhammed liked to wear…. Aisha’s dress.

        “The revelation does not come to me when I am in the garment of any woman EXCEPT Aisha’s”
        Sahih Bukhari #2442

        {islamic apologists dispute this,usually by -desperately-trying that well known ‘fiddle the Arabic’ trick to hide unpleasant facts about the most perfect man that ever lived:islam’s cross-dressing “prophet”}

        Did al -khadi miss those sharia punishments for Gay people{=HADD for men,TAZIR for women}?

        Perhaps he should do more research about his cult;it seems his Arab pagan god al Lah IS a “fascistic punisher”,a god who does not even permit Final Penitence k4:18 and thus cannot be a merciful god and a religion that has OFFICIAL punishments for gay people.

  6. FYI says

    Oct 5, 2019 at 12:07 pm

    “American networks are hooked on narratives where..White male soldiers gun down Arabs like they are vermin”

    What?

    Are ALL US military personnel..White?Of course not.

    Besides,every day we see devout muslims{ or those vicious converts to islam} brutally murdering INNOCENT people “like they are vermin”:thank goodness for the Police or Military{regardless of whether they are White,Black,Hispanic etc:note the racism of the muslim .In any movies I have seen it is NEVER ALL “white male soldiers” fighting terrorists…these terrorists deserve to be treated like scum anyway as they show NO MERCY to the innocent unarmed civilians they brutally terrorize or murder}

    High Five{-the Five Finger Infidel salute-}….to those in the Military and Police for protecting civilians….from cowardly terrorist scumbags.

  7. mortimer says

    Oct 5, 2019 at 12:17 pm

    Amrou Al-Kadhi is a perfect example of COGNITIVE DISSONANCE. I’m happy for him that he found emotional ‘HEALING’ through writing his book. I hope he heals himself all the way by having the courage to completely abandon the DEATH CULT that despises and humiliates people like him.

    NO ONE SHOULD BE DESPISED AND HUMILIATED for simply being who they are or stoned, or burned alive or thrown from a high building.

    Amrou, Islam is reprehensible in almost every way. Don’t you agree? Stop lying to yourself.

  8. CogitoErgoSum says

    Oct 5, 2019 at 12:17 pm

    Speaking of strange, have you seen this? David Wood’s portrayal of The Joker is amazing.

    • FYI says

      Oct 5, 2019 at 12:30 pm

      Hilarious.Awesome, Oscar winning performance from David Wood.

      I’d love to see muhammed meets…gollum from LOTR in the boom-boom room,a Ninja assassin wearing a burqa,Abraham{the koran say k3;67 “Abraham was not a Jew”}..

      • mortimer says

        Oct 5, 2019 at 12:58 pm

        Hopefully, this video will convince young people that Mohammed was certifiably insane.

      • Keys says

        Oct 5, 2019 at 3:53 pm

        +1

        God shall not be mocked !
        Allah shall be mocked !

        • FYI says

          Oct 5, 2019 at 4:07 pm

          Did you know that al lah has TWO RIGHT HANDS?
          {sahih muslim 1827,koran 49;1}

          And has only ONE leg
          {koran 68:42}

          If you look at “scientific mistakes in the quran” on You Tube you might be amazed to know that it appears allah gets the Anatomy and Physiology behind human reproductive biology wrong{which means that “allah”,the author of the koran would FAIL a modern Biology or Medical Exam..}

          He also gets Astronomy and Theology wrong{Christians are not polytheists,Jesus never had the Gospel k5:46,No Jews believe in any “Ezra is the son of allah” k9:30,Mary is NOT part of the Trinity,Abraham was “not a Jew” k3:67 etc}

          Oh!I forgot….muhammed had a WINGED FLYING DONKEY with a woman’s face{and nobody ever saw it..even,let’s face it,muhammed himself as he clearly made it up}

          islamic teachings and the koran and the hadith ridicule allah and muhammed….they do that on their own…

    • mortimer says

      Oct 5, 2019 at 12:33 pm

      The Joker’s monologue is a brilliant description of the appalling legacy of Islam … a tragic pile of wrecked human bodies and souls.

    • eduardo odraude says

      Oct 5, 2019 at 4:46 pm

      David Wood does a hilarious and frightening Joker and in the process brilliantly educates about Islam.

      Would like to see Wood do a Basil Rathbone version of Sherlock Holmes meeting Muhammad.

    • revereridesagain says

      Oct 5, 2019 at 6:06 pm

      Even the late lamented Heath Ledger would have to appreciate that performance! (And the Arkham Asylum reference didn’t slip past this resident of the North Shore of Massachusetts which is Lovecraft country.) Also many thanks because before viewing this, thanks to Amrou Al-Kadhi I had “People Are Strange” by The Doors stuck in my head.

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 8, 2019 at 1:38 am

      Very dark–but just brilliant!

  9. abad says

    Oct 5, 2019 at 12:37 pm

    Amrou Al-Kadhi must have really been hitting the opium when he wrote that garbage.

  10. Don McKellar says

    Oct 5, 2019 at 1:47 pm

    If some imam puts the right spin on this, they could have a Charlie Hebdo situation. Better watch themselves — these moslems will turn on them instantly when they start trying to invoke Mohammad and risk “insulting” that fictional character.

  11. No Muzzies Here says

    Oct 5, 2019 at 2:24 pm

    One favored victim group trying desperately to justify the existence of another favored victim group. Unfortunately, this person is ignoring the fact that gays are thrown off tall buildings in certain Islamic countries. Hanged in others.

  12. Lydia Church says

    Oct 5, 2019 at 2:42 pm

    Drag Queen story hour in Istanbul???

  13. Islamaphone says

    Oct 5, 2019 at 4:12 pm

    Before it’s contemporary meaning, queer meant abnormal. So yeah, Islam is abnormal.

  14. Angemon says

    Oct 5, 2019 at 4:14 pm

    the West has limited most people’s perceptions of what a Muslim looks like

    Always the kuffar’s fault, isn’t it?…

  15. somehistory says

    Oct 5, 2019 at 4:27 pm

    Wallowing in filth…the smell almost comes through the computer. May as well be in a hog pen with those moslims pretend to hate, but are really afraid. Ever smelled a hog pen full of the adult animals all snorting and rooting in the mud and slop? It smells terrible, but preferable to the slop coming from this creep.

    Comparing the filthy and evil book to a little kitten. Despicable. Claiming that the fake ‘god’ “created” any human, demonic.

  16. DHazard says

    Oct 5, 2019 at 4:48 pm

    If cringe could kill I would be dead;

    “Amen Muhammed! If you replace the world Islam with “people”, the sentence could feasibly be the slogan for a queer sex-positive disco in Berlin.”

    “I could just hold the book as though it was meant to be in my hands, like a calm, sleeping kitten.”

    “…a collection of ever-changing, different bodies, all coexisting as a formless mass unified by light and love.”

    More nonsense from one minority unwilling to see the knife held against it’s neck by another minority.

  17. gravenimage says

    Oct 5, 2019 at 7:00 pm

    Vice mag explains “why islam is inherently queer”

    Here is an attempt to shore up the Leftist/Islamic alliance that, not surprisingly, founders on the facts.

    Amrou Al-Kadhi writes: “Prophet Muhammed once said, ‘Islam began as something strange and will return to being something strange, so give blessings to those who are strange.’ Amen Muhammed! ”
    ……………………..

    Good lord, what claptrap. “strange” here does not mean “outre”–it means rare. This is just more of the “Prophet” asserting that most Muslims are not Muslim enough to avoid hell. He would surely have included Amrou Al-Kadhi among those headed for Jahannam.

    Note that Amrou Al-Kadhi does not live in Dar-al-Islam–he lives in liberal London.

    And he is not writing for a Muslim publication–Vice Magazine is Canadian-American.

    He has a book out called “Unicorn”, which pretty much says it all.

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 5, 2019 at 7:04 pm

      Here is Islam Q & A on that Hadith:

      Praise be to Allah.

      This hadeeth was narrated by Muslim (145) from Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) who said: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Islam began as something strange and will revert to being strange as it began, so give glad tidings to the strangers.”

      Al-Sindi said in Hashiyat Ibn Majah:

      “Strange” refers to the small number of its adherents. The basic meaning of ghareeb (a stranger) is being far from one’s homeland. “And will revert to being strange” refers to the small number of those who will adhere to its teachings even though its followers are many…

      https://islamqa.info/en/answers/45855/islam-began-as-something-strange

      Islam Q & A is the most authoritative and widely read Islamic site in English.

  18. revereridesagain says

    Oct 5, 2019 at 10:16 pm

    “There it was, in this ancient “evil” text, the idea that variance and difference among human bodies was all part of Allah’s plan.” That include horrible birth deformities, does it? Why do people persist in believing such nonsense? Why, why, why? Is the universe so terrifying and repelling in and of itself that so many people have to make up fairy tales that would make the Brothers Grimm blanch to “explain” it?

  19. RichardL says

    Oct 6, 2019 at 7:32 am

    I am sorry. I must disagree with all of you. Fr Botros collected a large number of sources that show that the profit of islam was a sexual pervert. A pedo, crossdresser and everything else.

    • Krishna says

      Oct 6, 2019 at 9:26 am

      Better Explain to Iranians

      • Krishna says

        Oct 6, 2019 at 9:27 am

        Such an stupid white wash
        The vice author should better explain to Iranians

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