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underbed catsays
The truth is there never could be peace when one side thinks his peace is violence against kafars, that it is only attempted during times of weakness, to regroup, that no other person is allowed to judge or fight a m***** but a M*****. The only way to understand is to read what they read….surprise it is only temporary but fighting is not so we have to deal with this differently …..or be endlessly played by a smiling face.
gravenimagesays
Why no peace?
………………………
When one side holds war against Infidels–and Jews in particular–to be sacralized if they have not submitted to their creed, there can be no peace.
I’ll be pre-ordering Robert Spencer’s new book today.
Wellingtonsays
Why no peace?
Answer: Islam.
A bit more complicated than this though.
Answer: Continued excuse making for Islam.
Enough already. Islam deserves no respect. 35,000+ documented Islamic terrorist attacks worldwide just since 9/11 serves as partial (but only partial) testimony to this truth. Here’s another: Muslims come to non-Muslim Western societies and freely practice their religion, build their houses of worship and preach their faith to non-Muslims. Try the reverse in the Islamic world and you are dead.
To ALL Muslims: Shame on you all. You are not “the best of peoples” (Sura 3:110) but rather you are just about the worst of peoples. Even the most benign of you are still aligned with evil, excuse makers for malevolence. And every last one of you disgust me, only the degree of disgust functioning as a variable.
May your Allah strike me dead tonight for writing what I have if Allah really exists (which the bastard doesn’t).
N.B., Be back tomorrow. Count on it because there is no Allah, the character of Mohammed is that of a narcissistic, brutal psychopath and your chief holy book is a God-damn hate manual. If you’re a Muslim, there is something wrong with you—no exceptions, only the degree of “wrongness” being a variable.
mortimersays
Wellington answers the question (Why no peace) by pointing to Islam’s track record in recent history. However, in the long term of 1400 years since the foundation of this warlike cult, over 270 million have been killed due to jihad. That makes one person killed due to jihad every 3 minutes since Mohammed begin his attacks in Arabia.
-Islam has killed an average of 19,300 people every year since Mohammed
-Islam has killed an average of 500 people every day since Mohammed.
-Islam has killed an average of 20 people every hour and killed 1 every three minutes since Mohammed. Do the math.
A religion that kills one person every three minutes is the definition of a ‘Death Cult’.
Terry Gainsays
A death cult is a religion? Surely you jest.
tgusasays
Setting aside all the usual and correct arguments, there is no money in peace. Therefore peace is not and has never been the objective. Take a look at what is going on now and examine what has gone on in the post WWII past. Now, we remove 50 men from northern Syria and it is the end of the world, catastrophe looms large. 50 men, who knew that just 50 American men stood between peace and the end of the world?
Everything we have been led to believe is untrue, everything we have seen or heard, it is all a charade, has been all along. A man, President Trump, who wants to change the decades old charade is under attack from all sides within our own country. That should enlighten you on everything that you need to know.
A short message to the creepy cabal that have orchestrated this decades old charade, it’s the end of your world and we know it, and I feel fine.
PS; See y’all soon.
gravenimagesays
There is indeed peace in many parts of the world.
The idea that the Jihad against Israel has nothing to do with the savagery of Islam and its hatred of Infidels in general and Jews in particular, but is just about money in some vague manner, makes no sense.
In that case, why isn’t Israel unilaterally attacking Muslims? Why is the violence all in one direction?
tgusasays
Really, where, Japan? What is going on is a little bit bigger than just the Israeli / muslim problem.
“The idea that the Jihad against Israel has nothing to do with the savagery of Islam and its hatred of Infidels in general and Jews in particular, but is just about money in some vague manner, makes no sense.”
Who said that? Why do you so often misread what others post?
Terry Gainsays
GI has certainly misread what I have had to say about the First Amendment. She claims that I have railed against it many times. I have not. Not even once. I fully support the First Amendment. My position is that it should not be used to protect Islam because Islam is not a religion. It is a supremacist, totalitarian, political, conquest ideology which opposes the First Amendments rights of all Americans except Muslims.
Ironically, acknowledging that Islam is a religion undermines the First Amendment.
Wellingtonsays
“It (Islam) is a supremacist, totalitarian, political, conquest ideology….’
So are Marxism and Nazism but these lousy belief systems are also protected by the First
Amendment. You keep focusing on status when what really matters is proper characterization. As I have pointed out to you before, just imagine if HUGE numbers of non-Muslims in the West, including the elites in the media, academia and the political realm said something to the effect, and on a regular basis, that Islam is a religion all right but it is a lousy religion, it is an enemy of freedom and it is iniquitous. Think matters would remain as they are now?
tgusasays
Our government gives money to Israel. Our government gives money to the palestinian cause. We also give money to many muslim countries, some of which practice slavery and other things that are abhorrent to modern Americans. The money has not solved one thing. As a non muslim American walk through Israel and then walk (not sneak) through gaza or the west bank. If you make it back in one piece to comment to me I will know that you only walked through Israel.
Do you see a problem here? Would that problem involve money and money making that problem worse?
gravenimagesays
tgusa wrote:
Really, where, Japan?
……………………
Actually, few Infidel nations are attacking each other. Save for the Jihad problem, Europe is at peace. North America is at peace. Australia and New Zealand are at peace. Most of non-Muslim Asia and Africa are at peace. Your apparent belief that most of the world save Japan are at war is simply not the case.
Most wars right now involve Islam.
More:
What is going on is a little bit bigger than just the Israeli / muslim problem.
……………………
Well, of course this is true. Muslims are also attacking both Infidels and other Muslims all over the world–as I have noted many hundreds of times here at Jihad Watch–almost every day, in fact.
More:
“The idea that the Jihad against Israel has nothing to do with the savagery of Islam and its hatred of Infidels in general and Jews in particular, but is just about money in some vague manner, makes no sense.”
Who said that? Why do you so often misread what others post?
……………………
If this were all about money, as you imply, then how would it have anything to do with Islam?
More:
Our government gives money to Israel.
……………………
Israel is our ally–in fact, our *only* real ally and only democracy in the region, and she is much threatened by Jihadists. We have a great deal in common. I think our support of Israel is one of the few good uses of American tax payer money outside of the US. You may, of course, disagree.
More:
Our government gives money to the palestinian cause. We also give money to many muslim countries, some of which practice slavery and other things that are abhorrent to modern Americans. The money has not solved one thing.
……………………
I never said that it has, In fact, I have applauded Trump cutting money to the “Palestinians” and other Muslim polities such as Pakistan. I have said that we should realize that places like Saudi Arabia are not our allies.
More:
As a non muslim American walk through Israel and then walk (not sneak) through gaza or the west bank. If you make it back in one piece to comment to me I will know that you only walked through Israel.
Do you see a problem here?
……………………
I have never suggested that Gaza or any other part of the Muslim world is safe for Infidels. I’m not sure where you got the Idea that I thought a stroll through Gaza would be a good idea for an unbeliever.
More:
Would that problem involve money and money making that problem worse?
……………………
Money can *definitely* make things worse–anyone in the West giving money to Muslims, including the “Palestinians”, is making a huge mistake. It can and does enable Jihad.
This does not mean that money is the motivation for Jihad, though–that would be Islam.
tgusasays
Thank you for the good reply.
“If this were all about money,”
Nothing is all about everything.
“money is the motivation for Jihad”
It is not but it funds the jihad.
“Our government gives money to Israel.”
I don’t think they need the money they seem to be pretty good on their own, but no problem. Cooperation, yes and always, by all means.
gravenimagesays
Agreed, tgusa.
tgusasays
One other thing I want to clarify,
“I have never suggested that Gaza or any other part of the Muslim world is safe for Infidels. I’m not sure where you got the Idea that I thought a stroll through Gaza would be a good idea for an unbeliever.”
I did not say that you did or ever would promote something like that. I have been reading your comments here for long enough to know where you stand.
I just challenged you to do that but I could easily have challenged any one of us. It was only to make an overall point.
gravenimagesays
OK, tgusa. Certainly you are right that this would not be safe for any non-Muslim.
Jayellsays
Surely it’s got something to do with the primeval human herd-survival mechanism (the ‘safety-in-numbers’ syndrome) where the basic survival impulse is transfered to promting a specific gene pool above its competitors. Hence the ‘Master Race’ philosophy of the Nazis which is a successor to the islamic doctrine of Allah-given supremacy. Religions are supposed to promote a sense of common and equal value and identity under the Creator, not a crude political supremacist xenophobia as propogated by spurious pseudo-religious scams like islam, and it is this constant in-built hostility that will always destroy any chance of peaceful coexistence as long as the likes of islam demands control of all available ‘lebensraum’.
eleesays
Why no peace? K 47:35.
Manuele Luisays
THERE WILL BE NO PEACE. WHY? THE MUSLIM ARABS WHO CALL THEMSELVES PALESTINIANS WANTS EVERYTHING THAT THEY’VE NEVER DROP A SINGLE SWEAT, BLOOD & TEARS IN PRODUCING/BUILDING. MY QUESTION TO THE MUSLIM ARABS WHO CALL THEMSELVES PALESTINIANS PAST, PRESENT & FUTURE. IN THE TIME WHEN/OF THE ROMAN RULES, WHERE WERE THE ARABS WHEN THE JEWS WERE FIGHTING THE ROMANS RESISTING THE ROMANS CONTROL OF THE HOLY LAND BEFORE & AT THE TIME OF JESUS MINISTRY? ANSWER THAT QUESTION. THE JEWS WERE EXPEL FROM THE HOLY LAND BECAUSE OF THE AFOREMENTIONED. AND I REPEAT. THE REASON THE JEWS WERE EXPELLED FROM THE HOLY LAND BECAUSE OF THEIR RESISTANCE. WE ALL KNOW TOO WELL THAT WHEN A LIE IS REPEATED & UNCHALLENGED, IT’LL BECOME THE TRUTH & THAT BULLSHIT BECOMES A REALITY. THE MUSLIM ARABS TAKING OVER OF THE LAND RUB THEIR FILTHY HANDS WITH GLEE OCCUPYING THE HOLY LAND. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, IF THEY WERE THE TRUE PEOPLE OF THE LAND, THEY COULD HAVE CULTIVATE IT. BUT THEY DIDN’T. WHY? THEY WERE EITHER THAT LAZY OR HAVE NO IDEA WHATSOEVER WHAT TO DO WITH THE LAND. OR WERE THEY THAT DUMB? TOR THEY STILL ARE?. FOR SO MANY YEARS PALESTINIANS WERE BEING HAND FED BY THE WORLD TAXPAYERS & IS STILL GOING ON. THEIR SO CALLED LEADERS ARE BUILDING THEMSELVES PALACES & THEIR BANK ACCOUNTS ARE IN THE MILLIONS & WHO KNOWS MAYBE IN BILLIONS ALREADY. THEIR PEOPLE ARE HUNGRY. AND WOULD THEY GIVE A SHIT? NOT BY A MILE. “IT’S ISRAEL’S FAULT” IS THEIR FAMOUS SONG. THE UN & EU ARE VERY VERY HAPPY TO SWALLOW THE SHIT THAT TERRORIST LED BY ABBAS, FATAH AS WELL AS THE OTHER TERRORIST GROUP IS THROWING AT THEIR FACES. FOR & TO THE HATERS OF ISRAEL WHAT GOD PROMISED HIS CHOSEN PEOPLE WILL NEVER BE TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM. BLESS THE JEWISH PEOPLE, GOD’S CHOSEN. I BLESS ISRAEL. BLESSED BE GOD FOREVER & BLESS HIS HOLY NAME.
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underbed cat says
The truth is there never could be peace when one side thinks his peace is violence against kafars, that it is only attempted during times of weakness, to regroup, that no other person is allowed to judge or fight a m***** but a M*****. The only way to understand is to read what they read….surprise it is only temporary but fighting is not so we have to deal with this differently …..or be endlessly played by a smiling face.
gravenimage says
Why no peace?
………………………
When one side holds war against Infidels–and Jews in particular–to be sacralized if they have not submitted to their creed, there can be no peace.
I’ll be pre-ordering Robert Spencer’s new book today.
Wellington says
Why no peace?
Answer: Islam.
A bit more complicated than this though.
Answer: Continued excuse making for Islam.
Enough already. Islam deserves no respect. 35,000+ documented Islamic terrorist attacks worldwide just since 9/11 serves as partial (but only partial) testimony to this truth. Here’s another: Muslims come to non-Muslim Western societies and freely practice their religion, build their houses of worship and preach their faith to non-Muslims. Try the reverse in the Islamic world and you are dead.
To ALL Muslims: Shame on you all. You are not “the best of peoples” (Sura 3:110) but rather you are just about the worst of peoples. Even the most benign of you are still aligned with evil, excuse makers for malevolence. And every last one of you disgust me, only the degree of disgust functioning as a variable.
May your Allah strike me dead tonight for writing what I have if Allah really exists (which the bastard doesn’t).
N.B., Be back tomorrow. Count on it because there is no Allah, the character of Mohammed is that of a narcissistic, brutal psychopath and your chief holy book is a God-damn hate manual. If you’re a Muslim, there is something wrong with you—no exceptions, only the degree of “wrongness” being a variable.
mortimer says
Wellington answers the question (Why no peace) by pointing to Islam’s track record in recent history. However, in the long term of 1400 years since the foundation of this warlike cult, over 270 million have been killed due to jihad. That makes one person killed due to jihad every 3 minutes since Mohammed begin his attacks in Arabia.
-Islam has killed an average of 19,300 people every year since Mohammed
-Islam has killed an average of 500 people every day since Mohammed.
-Islam has killed an average of 20 people every hour and killed 1 every three minutes since Mohammed. Do the math.
A religion that kills one person every three minutes is the definition of a ‘Death Cult’.
Terry Gain says
A death cult is a religion? Surely you jest.
tgusa says
Setting aside all the usual and correct arguments, there is no money in peace. Therefore peace is not and has never been the objective. Take a look at what is going on now and examine what has gone on in the post WWII past. Now, we remove 50 men from northern Syria and it is the end of the world, catastrophe looms large. 50 men, who knew that just 50 American men stood between peace and the end of the world?
Everything we have been led to believe is untrue, everything we have seen or heard, it is all a charade, has been all along. A man, President Trump, who wants to change the decades old charade is under attack from all sides within our own country. That should enlighten you on everything that you need to know.
A short message to the creepy cabal that have orchestrated this decades old charade, it’s the end of your world and we know it, and I feel fine.
PS; See y’all soon.
gravenimage says
There is indeed peace in many parts of the world.
The idea that the Jihad against Israel has nothing to do with the savagery of Islam and its hatred of Infidels in general and Jews in particular, but is just about money in some vague manner, makes no sense.
In that case, why isn’t Israel unilaterally attacking Muslims? Why is the violence all in one direction?
tgusa says
Really, where, Japan? What is going on is a little bit bigger than just the Israeli / muslim problem.
“The idea that the Jihad against Israel has nothing to do with the savagery of Islam and its hatred of Infidels in general and Jews in particular, but is just about money in some vague manner, makes no sense.”
Who said that? Why do you so often misread what others post?
Terry Gain says
GI has certainly misread what I have had to say about the First Amendment. She claims that I have railed against it many times. I have not. Not even once. I fully support the First Amendment. My position is that it should not be used to protect Islam because Islam is not a religion. It is a supremacist, totalitarian, political, conquest ideology which opposes the First Amendments rights of all Americans except Muslims.
Ironically, acknowledging that Islam is a religion undermines the First Amendment.
Wellington says
“It (Islam) is a supremacist, totalitarian, political, conquest ideology….’
So are Marxism and Nazism but these lousy belief systems are also protected by the First
Amendment. You keep focusing on status when what really matters is proper characterization. As I have pointed out to you before, just imagine if HUGE numbers of non-Muslims in the West, including the elites in the media, academia and the political realm said something to the effect, and on a regular basis, that Islam is a religion all right but it is a lousy religion, it is an enemy of freedom and it is iniquitous. Think matters would remain as they are now?
tgusa says
Our government gives money to Israel. Our government gives money to the palestinian cause. We also give money to many muslim countries, some of which practice slavery and other things that are abhorrent to modern Americans. The money has not solved one thing. As a non muslim American walk through Israel and then walk (not sneak) through gaza or the west bank. If you make it back in one piece to comment to me I will know that you only walked through Israel.
Do you see a problem here? Would that problem involve money and money making that problem worse?
gravenimage says
tgusa wrote:
Really, where, Japan?
……………………
Actually, few Infidel nations are attacking each other. Save for the Jihad problem, Europe is at peace. North America is at peace. Australia and New Zealand are at peace. Most of non-Muslim Asia and Africa are at peace. Your apparent belief that most of the world save Japan are at war is simply not the case.
Most wars right now involve Islam.
More:
What is going on is a little bit bigger than just the Israeli / muslim problem.
……………………
Well, of course this is true. Muslims are also attacking both Infidels and other Muslims all over the world–as I have noted many hundreds of times here at Jihad Watch–almost every day, in fact.
More:
“The idea that the Jihad against Israel has nothing to do with the savagery of Islam and its hatred of Infidels in general and Jews in particular, but is just about money in some vague manner, makes no sense.”
Who said that? Why do you so often misread what others post?
……………………
If this were all about money, as you imply, then how would it have anything to do with Islam?
More:
Our government gives money to Israel.
……………………
Israel is our ally–in fact, our *only* real ally and only democracy in the region, and she is much threatened by Jihadists. We have a great deal in common. I think our support of Israel is one of the few good uses of American tax payer money outside of the US. You may, of course, disagree.
More:
Our government gives money to the palestinian cause. We also give money to many muslim countries, some of which practice slavery and other things that are abhorrent to modern Americans. The money has not solved one thing.
……………………
I never said that it has, In fact, I have applauded Trump cutting money to the “Palestinians” and other Muslim polities such as Pakistan. I have said that we should realize that places like Saudi Arabia are not our allies.
More:
As a non muslim American walk through Israel and then walk (not sneak) through gaza or the west bank. If you make it back in one piece to comment to me I will know that you only walked through Israel.
Do you see a problem here?
……………………
I have never suggested that Gaza or any other part of the Muslim world is safe for Infidels. I’m not sure where you got the Idea that I thought a stroll through Gaza would be a good idea for an unbeliever.
More:
Would that problem involve money and money making that problem worse?
……………………
Money can *definitely* make things worse–anyone in the West giving money to Muslims, including the “Palestinians”, is making a huge mistake. It can and does enable Jihad.
This does not mean that money is the motivation for Jihad, though–that would be Islam.
tgusa says
Thank you for the good reply.
“If this were all about money,”
Nothing is all about everything.
“money is the motivation for Jihad”
It is not but it funds the jihad.
“Our government gives money to Israel.”
I don’t think they need the money they seem to be pretty good on their own, but no problem. Cooperation, yes and always, by all means.
gravenimage says
Agreed, tgusa.
tgusa says
One other thing I want to clarify,
“I have never suggested that Gaza or any other part of the Muslim world is safe for Infidels. I’m not sure where you got the Idea that I thought a stroll through Gaza would be a good idea for an unbeliever.”
I did not say that you did or ever would promote something like that. I have been reading your comments here for long enough to know where you stand.
I just challenged you to do that but I could easily have challenged any one of us. It was only to make an overall point.
gravenimage says
OK, tgusa. Certainly you are right that this would not be safe for any non-Muslim.
Jayell says
Surely it’s got something to do with the primeval human herd-survival mechanism (the ‘safety-in-numbers’ syndrome) where the basic survival impulse is transfered to promting a specific gene pool above its competitors. Hence the ‘Master Race’ philosophy of the Nazis which is a successor to the islamic doctrine of Allah-given supremacy. Religions are supposed to promote a sense of common and equal value and identity under the Creator, not a crude political supremacist xenophobia as propogated by spurious pseudo-religious scams like islam, and it is this constant in-built hostility that will always destroy any chance of peaceful coexistence as long as the likes of islam demands control of all available ‘lebensraum’.
elee says
Why no peace? K 47:35.
Manuele Lui says
THERE WILL BE NO PEACE. WHY? THE MUSLIM ARABS WHO CALL THEMSELVES PALESTINIANS WANTS EVERYTHING THAT THEY’VE NEVER DROP A SINGLE SWEAT, BLOOD & TEARS IN PRODUCING/BUILDING. MY QUESTION TO THE MUSLIM ARABS WHO CALL THEMSELVES PALESTINIANS PAST, PRESENT & FUTURE. IN THE TIME WHEN/OF THE ROMAN RULES, WHERE WERE THE ARABS WHEN THE JEWS WERE FIGHTING THE ROMANS RESISTING THE ROMANS CONTROL OF THE HOLY LAND BEFORE & AT THE TIME OF JESUS MINISTRY? ANSWER THAT QUESTION. THE JEWS WERE EXPEL FROM THE HOLY LAND BECAUSE OF THE AFOREMENTIONED. AND I REPEAT. THE REASON THE JEWS WERE EXPELLED FROM THE HOLY LAND BECAUSE OF THEIR RESISTANCE. WE ALL KNOW TOO WELL THAT WHEN A LIE IS REPEATED & UNCHALLENGED, IT’LL BECOME THE TRUTH & THAT BULLSHIT BECOMES A REALITY. THE MUSLIM ARABS TAKING OVER OF THE LAND RUB THEIR FILTHY HANDS WITH GLEE OCCUPYING THE HOLY LAND. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, IF THEY WERE THE TRUE PEOPLE OF THE LAND, THEY COULD HAVE CULTIVATE IT. BUT THEY DIDN’T. WHY? THEY WERE EITHER THAT LAZY OR HAVE NO IDEA WHATSOEVER WHAT TO DO WITH THE LAND. OR WERE THEY THAT DUMB? TOR THEY STILL ARE?. FOR SO MANY YEARS PALESTINIANS WERE BEING HAND FED BY THE WORLD TAXPAYERS & IS STILL GOING ON. THEIR SO CALLED LEADERS ARE BUILDING THEMSELVES PALACES & THEIR BANK ACCOUNTS ARE IN THE MILLIONS & WHO KNOWS MAYBE IN BILLIONS ALREADY. THEIR PEOPLE ARE HUNGRY. AND WOULD THEY GIVE A SHIT? NOT BY A MILE. “IT’S ISRAEL’S FAULT” IS THEIR FAMOUS SONG. THE UN & EU ARE VERY VERY HAPPY TO SWALLOW THE SHIT THAT TERRORIST LED BY ABBAS, FATAH AS WELL AS THE OTHER TERRORIST GROUP IS THROWING AT THEIR FACES. FOR & TO THE HATERS OF ISRAEL WHAT GOD PROMISED HIS CHOSEN PEOPLE WILL NEVER BE TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM. BLESS THE JEWISH PEOPLE, GOD’S CHOSEN. I BLESS ISRAEL. BLESSED BE GOD FOREVER & BLESS HIS HOLY NAME.