“Each of you, to a greater or lesser degree, accessed materials on the internet supportive of Islamic State and violent jihad. Their views became so warped they had come to believe the mass slaughter of innocent civilians would be a glorious act, pleasing to Allah.” — Justice Christopher Beale, Supreme Court of Victoria
Where could they have gotten that crazy idea? Could it have been from passages including these?
“And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from where they drove you out; persecution is worse than slaughter. But fight them not by the Holy Mosque until they should fight you there; then, if they fight you, kill them — such is the recompense of unbelievers, but if they give over, surely Allah is all-forgiving, all-compassionate. Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is Allah’s; then if they give over, there shall be no enmity save for evildoers.” (Qur’an 2:191-193)
“We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve for what they have associated with Allah of which He had not sent down authority. And their refuge will be the Fire, and wretched is the residence of the wrongdoers.” (Qur’an 3:151)
“They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore do not take friends from among them, until they emigrate in the way of Allah; then, if they turn their backs, seize them and kill them wherever you find them; do not take for yourselves any one of them as friend or helper.” (Qur’an 4:89)
“This is the recompense of those who fight against Allah and His Messenger, and hasten about the earth to do corruption there: they shall be killed, or crucified, or their hands and feet shall be struck off on opposite sides; or they shall be exiled from the land. That is a degradation for them in this world; and in the world to come awaits them a mighty chastisement.” (Qur’an 5:33)
“When your Lord was revealing to the angels, ‘I am with you; so confirm the believers. I shall cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers; so strike the necks, and strike every finger of them!” (Qur’an 8:12)
“Fight them, till there is no persecution and religion is all for Allah; then if they give over, surely Allah sees the things they do.” (Qur’an 8:39)
“Make ready for them whatever force and strings of horses you can, to strike terror into the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others besides them that you know not; Allah knows them. And whatever you spend in the way of Allah shall be repaid you in full; you will not be wronged.” (Qur’an 8:60)
“Then, when the sacred months are over, kill the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they repent, and perform the prayer, and pay the alms, then let them go their way; Allah is All-forgiving, All-compassionate.” (Qur’an 9:5)
“Fight those who believe not in Allah and the Last Day and do not forbid what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden, and do not practice the religion of truth, even if they are of the People of the Book — until they pay the jizya with willing submission and feel themselves subdued.” (Qur’an 9:29)
“Allah has bought from the believers their selves and their possessions against the gift of Paradise; they fight in the way of Allah; they kill, and are killed; that is a promise binding upon Allah in the Torah, and the Gospel, and the Koran; and who fulfils his covenant truer than Allah? So rejoice in the bargain you have made with Him; that is the mighty triumph.” (Qur’an 9:111)
“O believers, fight the unbelievers who are near to you; and let them find in you a harshness; and know that Allah is with the godfearing.” (Qur’an 9:123)
“When you meet the unbelievers, strike their necks, then, when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds; then set them free, either by grace or ransom, till the war lays down its loads. So it shall be; and if Allah had willed, He would have avenged Himself upon them; but that He may try some of you by means of others. And those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will not send their works astray.” (Qur’an 47:4)
“3 Islamic State-inspired militants sentenced for Christmas 2016 plot in Australia,” by Jack Durschlag, Fox News, November 29, 2019:
Three men, who were inspired by the Islamic State group, were given lengthy sentences Friday for plotting a Christmas 2016 attack in Australia’s second largest city, a published report said.
The men, Ahmed Mohamed, Abdullah Chaarani and Hamza Abbas, were preparing a mass attack involving explosives and knives at Federation Square, a popular downtown restaurant and entertainment precinct in Melbourne, The Associated Press reported.
Justice Christopher Beale, seated at the Supreme Court of Victoria, said Chaarani, 29, and Mohamed, 27, must serve at least 28 years and six months in prison for their parts in the plot.
Meanwhile, Hamza Abbas, 24, who was involved in the conspiracy for a shorter period, was jailed for 22 years with a non-parole period of 16 years and six months, the AP reported.
“Each of you, to a greater or lesser degree, accessed materials on the internet supportive of Islamic State and violent jihad. Their views became so warped they had come to believe the mass slaughter of innocent civilians would be a glorious act, pleasing to Allah.”
— Justice Christopher Beale, Supreme Court of Victoria“The stupidity of that belief was only matched by its malevolence,” he added….
FYI says
The usual response by the Media,the Police,the Judiciary,the Dhimmis is..
ISLam has nothing to do with islAM
isLaM has nothing to do with isis
isLAMic terrorism has nothing to do with IsLaMiC terrorism
The fact that muhammed was a self-confessed terrorist* has nothing to do with the fact that muslims who are obliged to follow his sunnah or example, engage in terrorism.
The fact that the koran has numerous jihadist instructions has nothing to do with muslims who follow the teachings of the koran engaging in terrorism and jihadism.
islam is THE religion of “peace”..
*”I have been made victorious through TERROR”
Sahih bukhari 4:52:220
Michael Copeland says
Like politicians, judges are uninformed – and probably misinformed – about Islam.
See “The Lamentable Shortcomings of Some English Judges and Senior Lawyers”
https://gatesofvienna.net/2019/06/the-lamentable-shortcomings-of-some-english-judges-and-senior-lawyers/
Sons of Liberty says
Satan has a way of blinding people to the TRUTH . Jesus hinted about this in talking to the Pharisees ! Satan’s deadliest achievement was convincing people he didn’t exist at all .
Sons of Liberty says
Even though Jesus talks about Satan numerous times in the New Testament .
Spiro says
Warped view of Islam ????
The judge has the warped view but as an all knowing judge
he will never learn the truth
Sons of Liberty says
Exactly , Spiro ! When will people learn these are FUNDAMENTAL Muslims NOT RADICALS and they are following the commands of the Qur’an . There was another jihadist today in London stabbing people on a bridge ,….I wonder why ?
Joe Paluch says
This is islam..kill the infidel..over 100 violent verses..in surah
Norger says
The problem, Justice Beale, is that ISIS has an entirely plausible interpretation of the faith. As a matter of fact judge, I challenge you to explain the difference between ISIS Islam and Saudi Islam. There is none.
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says
Their views became so warped they had come to believe the mass slaughter of innocent civilians would be a glorious act, pleasing to Allah.” — Justice Christopher Beale, Supreme Court of Victoria
Oh man, the left is so in denial over islam. It’s shocking to me that someone who is supposed to be educated like a judge can say something so shockingly false before the world. How can someone so deceitful or inept be a good dispenser of justice? You can’t. There seems to be this prevailing attitude among leftists that if they just ignore the ugly truths about islam they will go away. They try and use this adolescent psychology on muslims, thinking if they just stroke the false notion of islam being a “religion of peace” then muslims will be beguiled into acting more peaceful and less totalitarian for allah. But bullies don’t typically respond that way to flattery and fear, if anything it only increases their contempt for us. I truly believe they think we’re weak fools, and they’re are just biding time until their numbers grow and they can perform the final coup d’etat. I’m not suggesting they’re ALL diligently scheming to destroy us, but I believe virtually all would be glad to see it happen, and because they’re glad they’ll all help it occur when the time comes. Europe will be first, and they’re laying the foundation for islam in America right now with their thousands of mosques and infiltration of society. As long as we have traitors and fools in our midst like this judge we can be sure the fight won’t be easy. I guess all we can do is keep pounding away and hope more people gain good sense about islam and join the cause against it. I’m so grateful for good folks like Spencer. If a good god exists then I truly believe he is a gift from god because his work is so geared for helping us against the genocidal violence and stupidity of a certain religion. Sorry if that makes you feel uncomfortable Mr. Spencer, but after all, I am entitled to my opinion. 😉
Michael Copeland says
“The Koran is a book of peace” – Judge Haddon-Cave, UK
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says
Yeah, ain’t that crazy?
“Imagination is the only weapon in the war against reality.”
― Lewis Carroll
It’s hard to reason with people who deny reality. The violence in islam is barefaced and glaring, and so is the real world violence it has caused for 14 centuries. To deny it is as crass and ignorant as denying the holocaust. The left has put their heads on the block for islam. But they will not get gratitude in return, only more intimidation, more demands, and more subversion for islam. I’m proud to say I’m one of those who are fighting against the dissolution of our laws, our freedoms, and culture for islam. The filth and idiocy of islamic doctrines should not be a guiding force in any civilized nation on earth. It needs to be confined to the library shelves of human error and bad religion.
Sons of Liberty says
Amen to that ! Brilliantly stated .
Jedothek says
Quran 2:191 should never be quoted out of context. Readers then assume that the “them” of the first sentence is all unbelievers. One must look at 2:190 to discover that the “them” are aggressors.
“AND FIGHT in God’s cause against those who wage war against you, but do not commit aggression-for, verily, God does not love aggressors” (2:190).
The slaying urged in 2:191 is defensive.
FYI says
It seems muslims/al lah have not understood the concept of the Sixth Commandment.
Given that the koran teaches the OPPOSITE to God’s official Exodus 20 laws,the whole koran is “out of context”.
oh,and al lah and islam missed {and violates} those essential Two Chief Commandments of God didn’t he?
Of course there is a clue in al lah’s name{“The BEST of deceivers” k3:54} but can muslims figure it out?
gravenimage says
Muslims claim that *all* slaughter of Infidels is “defensive”.
Kepha says
I get so sick of these Leftist, secularist judges, politicians, and jornos who claim to know more about Islam than men trained in medressahs.
Sons of Liberty says
Recently in adult Sunday school we were talking about other faiths and the leader said we should honor all people’s faiths . I immediately said no , I will not honor an evil cult like Islam . I said I will pray for Muslims because they are children of God and are walking in darkness but I will NOT HONOR Islam . They looked at me in shock including our interim Pastor . Most people in the US are ignorant of Islam and no nothing about what the Qur’an instructs Muslims to do in life .
gravenimage says
Grimly common. I hope you explained what Islam teaches.
No Muzzies Here says
Well, then, what is the right view of Islam? Non-violent tolerance? Could have fooled me!
Lotus says
Not in the above news report, but also worth noting, is this:
// During a plea hearing before Beale last month, Mohamed and Chaarani claimed they had renounced Islamic State and had worked toward deradicalization since being arrested on Dec. 22, 2016.
Beale on Friday accepted the three men were on the path to rehabilitation.
It is the second terrorism conviction for Mohamed and Chaarani, who are already serving 22-year prison terms for firebombing a Shiite mosque in Melbourne just weeks before the planned Christmas attack. //
Wh the judge would believe that these lowlifes are on the path to ‘deradicalisation’ and ‘rehabilitation’ is a mystery to me. It is another instance of taqiyya (deception).
ntesdorf says
The only ‘warped view of Islam’ here is the one possessed by the Judge.
tim gallagher says
It is amazing how people like this judge seem to think that they are, somehow, and, no doubt, without doing any research on islam, experts on Islam. This know nothing fool of a judge, when it comes to Islam’s nature, pontificates about what is a “warped” view of Islam and what is not. It must annoy people like Robert Spencer, who has actually bothered to do the hard work and learn about Islam’s nature, to have this constant stream of buffoons, such as this judge, along with various politicians, media clowns, et al, spout their rubbish about Islam’s nature. Their idiocy endangers us all.
gravenimage says
Australia: Three Muslims sentenced for jihad massacre plot, judge decries their “warped” view of Islam
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Another clueless dhimmi apologist for Islam. *Ugh*.
jca reid says
They’re not warping Islam at all! They are merely following its orders, FFS!
OLD GUY says
Prison won’t change them it will only empower their belief and hatred. Deport them after they serve their sentences. Or do not release them.
gravenimage says
Yes–they should be deported after serving their sentences.
OLD GUY says
Prison will not change their behavior, it will only empower them.
sidney penny says
Who can forget the famous English judge Imam Justice Sweeny in the trial of Mujaahid Abu Hamza and Ismail ibn Abdullah aka, Michael Adebolajo and Michael Adebowale) for the murder of Lee Rigby,
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/02/uk-judge-tells-jihad-murderers-of-soldier-that-they-betrayed-islam-they-start-screaming-allahu-akbar-and-fighting-prison-guards
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/02/uk-jihadi-tells-judge-that-rigby-murder-not-a-betrayal-of-islam-you-dont-know-what-islam-is
The Imam Sweeney told them: “You each converted to Islam some years ago. Thereafter you were radicalised and each became an extremist, espousing views which, as has been said elsewhere, are a betrayal of Islam.” This enraged them, and they began a fight in the courtroom. It would have been interesting to see Mufti Sweeney explain what exactly was a betrayal of Islam in the actions of Mujaahid Abu Hamza and Ismail ibn Abdullah, aka Adebolajo and Adebowale. Right after the murder, Mujaahid Abu Hamza invoked the Qur’an and made specific reference to the Islamic doctrine that one must fight against those who fight against Islam.
gravenimage says
Yes–what fools these dhimmis be!
sidney penny says
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/02/uk-judge-tells-jihad-murderers-of-soldier-that-they-betrayed-islam-they-start-screaming-allahu-akbar-and-fighting-prison-guards
“Until British (and American) authorities come to grips with the fact that there is ample Islamic justification for such murders, and stop playing games with their Let’s Play Pretend version of Islam, there will be many more such killings.”
And Australian authorities?
gravenimage says
*All* Western authorities.