How long before “Islamophobia” charges are leveled and they’re reinstated? Give it a week or so.
“Guns taken from Paris police amid Islamist fears,” by Adam Sage, The Times, October 31 2019:
Seven Paris police officers have been ordered to hand over their weapons and one has been suspended after being suspected of Islamic radicalism.
The orders were issued amid a climate of fear within the Paris police after a Muslim officer stabbed to death four colleagues and injured two more at the force’s headquarters on October 3.
The stabbings by Mickaël Harpon, 45, an IT expert who worked at the police intelligence unit, prompted claims that Islamism had reached the heart of France. Harpon was shot dead.
After the attack Didier Lallement, the Paris police chief, told officers to be on the lookout for signs of radicalisation among their colleagues. A change in appearance, clothes, eating habits or day-to-day customs, “the refusal to shake hands with…
mortimer says
What? There is JIHADISM going on the police department??? I’M SHOCKED, SHOCKED !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4vIBijzg4w
CogitoErgoSum says
The very fact of being a Muslim should disqualify a person from being a police officer — or serving in the military either. In fact, I would not allow a Muslim even to become a citizen and would make it very difficult for any of them who are allowed to enter the country to remain in the country — by use of something like a reverse dhimmi tax imposed upon them.
mortimer says
Even if a Muslim is NOTa jihadist, how would we get that out of him? It would be a challenge to identify a jihadist who was determined to conceal his intent. A lie-detector test would be required regularly to discern whether there was a change in a Muslim’s attitude to terrorism.
I have personally found that a discussion of the right of Israel to exist or the Israeli treatment of Palestinians is enough to smoke out a jihadist. They go into paroxysms and then spill more than they intend. Remember that a real Muslim hates the dirty kufaar. Ask a Muslim straight out: ‘AM I A KAFIR?’ They will then reveal what they think by their bewilderment. They will not expect that question.
CogitoErgoSum says
Yes, I would make it as difficult as possible for them to practice or even to conceal the practice of their religion. That would include using every thing found in the Koran and turning it against them — treating them the same way they are instructed to treat infidels. Fight them every step of the way!
gravenimage says
This is true. Muslims become particularly unhinged if asked about Jews.
rubiconcrest says
I once innocently asked a Mohammed how he spelled his name. I had seen it spelled multiple ways. Well that set him off. He looked at me unhinged as if to say ‘how could you even ask that question’.
gravenimage says
Yes–Muslims are touchy to the point of madness.
I have a perfectly Western name, but people ask me to spell it fairly frequently. I am never offended.
Ned Kelly says
Finally a bit of sense creeping into France
mortimer says
French police employees admitted they were afraid to report jihadic behavior of their co-workers for fear of getting into trouble and labelled as bigots or racists by the politically correct.
French police have to think this through. The ‘Islamophobia’ slander has been successful in shielding many outright jihadists from exposure and dismissal.
The French police need to institute a new protocol for reporting jihadism in the ranks, one that will guarantee that a whistleblower is not worse off after reporting.
gravenimage says
Yes–this is true–and not just in France, How many times have we heard coworkers and neighbors say they hesitated to report things that made them uneasy because they were afraid of being accused of being “Islamophobic” or “racist”?
mortimer says
TIP TO FRENCH POLICE: 15% of Muslims self-identify as supporters of an Islamic terrorist group … about one out of six. Muslim Russian roulette.
La roulette russe islamique à arme chargée.
Lavéritétriomphera says
@Mortimer,
D’où viennent ces chiffres?
gravenimage says
Lavéritétriomphera, Mortimer n’a jamais dit.
Lavéritétriomphera says
Je me méfie de ce genre de statistiques car j’ignore comment elles ont été établies.
gravenimage says
D’accord, Lavéritétriomphera,
mortimer says
So the cops don’t have a firearm? Harpon used a knife.
Ray Jarman says
I would say that this is a dollar short and a day late but this is not even a beginning. Mohamed Noor killed Justine Damond and the mayor defended the decision to hire a Muslim even after the murder. The other often phrase about madness, letting the inmates run the asylum is not strong enough. Why in the hell would anyone wish to hire people who believe that killing the kuffar is an obligation to their god and then provide them with the weapons to perform their reason to exist on earth? Until surahs such as “Kill them wherever you find them.” (Quran 2:191), “Kill them wherever you find them.” (Qur’an 4:89), “Kill the polytheists wherever you find them.” (Qur’an 9:5) and “When you meet the unbelievers, strike the necks.” (Qur’an 47:4) have been struck from the un-holy Qur’an with others, they should not be permitted to hold any position on any police force or in the military.
gravenimage says
Most Infidels–including French politicians and police–know nothing about Islam and its diktats.
Ned Kelly says
It took me 2 minutes to google the quran + read 2 pages…I felt sick for a week, but immediately understood what was going on world wide.
gravenimage says
I didn’t say there was an excuse for their not knowing, Ned–this is mostly willful ignorance.
Mr. Cohen says
“On March 7 [of 1936 CE] he [Adolph Hitler] ordered
troops to march into the Rhineland and occupy it.
Surprisingly, French military forces DID NOT RETALIATE.
Hitler had taken possession of the region
WITHOUT FIRING A SINGLE SHOT.”
SOURCE: Mein Kampf: Hitler’s Blueprint
for Aryan Supremacy (page 69) by Duane Damon,
year 2003 CE, Lucent Books, Michigan,
ISBN10: 1560068000 www (dot) gale (dot) com
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A ban on renting apartments to Jews on France’s
Cote d’Azur reportedly has not been changed
since it was enacted under the World War II-era
Vichy government. The law requires that applicants
for certain apartments attest that they are:
“French, non-Jews, and not married to a Jew,
in the legal sense currently in effect.”
The newspaper Nice-Matin, which discovered
the law, reported that Jews who wish to buy an apartment
in Nice must pay an extra $1,000 to $10,000 in notary fees
to get around these articles, and that such arrangements
are probably in effect in other towns in France as well.
SOURCE:
The Jewish Herald, 2007 March 9, article on page 8,
The Jewish Herald 1689 48th Street, Brooklyn NY 11204
editorial (at) jewishherald (dot) com, (718) 972-4000
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“Like many Americans with dreams of Paris who
confront Paris, they have found that they are living
in a grouchy, heavily over-administered country,
where everyone is socialized to be negative in
the first instance, and where the small details of life
are made as wrenchingly difficult as possible…”
SOURCE: The View from a Bridge
by Adam Gopnik, The New Yorker magazine,
2014 December 8, page 45
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How French Police Handle Anti-Jewish Attacks
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Judge after judge told him [Sammy Ghozlan,
a 72-year-old retired Paris police commissioner]:
“There is no anti-Semitism charge
applicable unless someone dies.”
SOURCE:
New Dangers for the Jews of Paris
by Marie Brenner, Vanity Fair magazine,
August 2015, page 114
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French more accepting of infidelity
than people in other countries
(article for Pew Research by Richard Wike 2014/1/14):
Only 47% of French people agreed that marital
infidelity is unacceptable. This percentage
was lower than all other nations studied.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/01/14/french-more-accepting-of-infidelity-than-people-in-other-countries/
gravenimage says
To be fair, I doubt that this law about not renting to Jews has been enforced over the past seventy-four years. Many old laws remain on the books. But yes–France should have removed all Nazi laws many years ago. This law is not something along the lines of banning bowling on Sundays, which are the sort of old laws one usually runs across.
Lavéritétriomphera says
Mr. Cohen,
“French more accepting of infidelity than people in other countries”
Mind your own business!
Mr. Cohen says
“Or look at France, whose 750,000 Jews,
despite constituting less than 1% of the
population, were the targets in [year] 2016
of 30% of violent hate crimes in the country.”
SOURCE: How anti-Semitic conspiracy
theorists sustain their convictions
by Ben Cohen, 2017 December 11
https://mosaicmagazine.com/response/2017/12/how-anti-semitic-conspiracy-theorists-sustain-their-convictions/
gravenimage says
Grimly true–and today, most of the perpetrators are Muslims.
Mr. Cohen says
Guy Millière [Professor at the University of Paris
and author of 27 books on France and Europe] said:
“France’s disregard of the threats faced by Israel is
more than simple willful blindness. It is complicity.”
………………………………………
“…France decided to impose an arms embargo on
Israel in June 1967, at the beginning of the Six Day War,
at the moment when Israel faced mortal danger.”
“In 1973, during the Yom Kippur War, France refused
landing rights to U.S. military supply planes flying to Israel.”
SOURCE: France’s Relentless Hostility
to the Jewish State by Guy Millière, 2016 February 18
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7442/france-hostility-israel
Mr. Cohen says
Ben Cohen and Benjamin Weinthal wrote:
“After dozens of attacks on Jews ranging from
street violence to kidnapping to a terrorist massacre
at an elementary school, much of France,
on the Right and Left, still [denies] that
the country has a problem with anti-Semitism.”
SOURCE: In France anti-Semitism
is a hatred that cannot be named
https://mosaicmagazine.com/picks/2017/07/in-france-anti-semitism-is-a-hatred-that-cannot-be-named/
Mr. Cohen says
“Julie Hazan, 35, who was born and raised in
Marseille [the second-largest city in France]
and is now the resource development director
of ELNET New York, said she has friends in
France terrified to send their children to Jewish
schools because they are such a recognized target.”
SOURCE: Leading Jewish figure
calls on French government ‘to act’ as
anti-Semitism reaches tipping point
by Shiryn Ghermezian, 2019 March 19
http://www.jns.org/is-there-hope-on-the-horizon-for-jews-in-france/
PERSONAL COMMENT:
United States President Franklin D. Roosevelt
taught that there are Four [basic] Freedoms –
one of those four is “freedom from fear”.
Mr. Cohen says
Former French Intelligence Chief Alleged to
Have Made Secret Pact with Palestinian Terrorists
Behind 1982 Kosher Restaurant Massacre:
http://www.algemeiner.com/2019/08/09/former-french-intelligence-chief-alleged-to-have-made-secret-pact-with-palestinian-terrorists-behind-1982-kosher-restaurant-massacre/
Mr. Cohen says
French Jewish Anger Grows Over Savage Anti-Semitic
Murder of Pensioner at Hands of Muslim in Paris Suburb
by Ben Cohen, 2017 May 29
http://www.algemeiner.com/2017/05/29/french-jewish-anger-grows-over-savage-antisemitic-murder-of-pensioner-at-hands-of-muslim-in-paris-suburb/
As further details emerge of the brutal murder of an Orthodox Jewish woman in a Paris suburb at the hands of a Muslim assailant last month, French Jews are increasingly worried and angered by what one prominent member of the community called an “organized silence” surrounding the case.
Dr. Sarah Halimi — a 66-year-old pensioner living in the Paris suburb of Belleville — was murdered in the early hours of April 4 by Kada Traore, a 27-year-old immigrant from Mali. After breaking into the neighboring apartment of another Malian family at 4:25 a.m. — whose terrified inhabitants locked themselves away as they heard him recite verses from the Quran — Traore jumped over the balcony and forced his way into Halimi’s apartment. As he beat the elderly lady savagely, her screams prompted neighbors to call the police.
Three officers arrived at 4:45 a.m. But on hearing Traore yelling “Allahu Akhbar!” and “Shaitan!” (Arabic for ‘Satan’), they feared a terrorist attack was taking place, and called for backup. Anti-terror officers did not arrive until 5:00 a.m., by which time Halimi had been thrown by her attacker from the window of her third-floor apartment to the ground below.
Traore, reported to be a drug dealer and addict with a criminal record, then returned to the apartment of the Malian family where he resumed his prayers, and was not taken into police custody until almost 6:00 a.m.
Shock over the barbaric nature of the murder has been compounded by the reluctance of both the media and French authorities to recognize it as an antisemitic hate crime — even after a silent march of remembrance on the Sunday after the murder was met by local youths chanting “Death to the Jews” and “We Own Kalashnikovs.”
In an open letter to new French Interior Minister Gerard Collomb, Alexandra Laignel-Lavastine — a French journalist and expert on antisemitism — charged that “in the advanced decadence that reigns today in the country of (antisemitic comedian) Dieudonné, for whom ‘the Jews are dogs’ (and people laugh hysterically), it seems that a run-over dog deserves more attention than a murdered Jewish woman.”
Laignel-Lavastine also quoted William Attal, Halimi’s brother, who stated, “I have waited seven weeks before I said anything. The absolute silence about my sister’s murder has become intolerable.”
Since the murder, official and media accounts of what transpired have played up claims that Traore was suffering from mental illness, while virtually ignoring the antisemitic element of the crime.
A common theory is that the recent French election encouraged — in the phrase of Michel Gurfinkiel, a leading French political analyst and president of the Jean-Jacques Rousseau Institute in Paris — an “organized silence” around the Halimi murder.
“Such a story would benefit the Right and the National Front,” Gurfinkiel said. “Everyone is convinced this is why there has been such an organized silence around the story.”
A few days after the murder, Marine Le Pen — the leader of the far-right, anti-immigrant National Front — tweeted that Halimi’s fate made her want to “speak about Islamist antisemitism.” Le Pen was defeated by centrist candidate Emmanuel Macron in the second round of the presidential election on May 7.
“The Jewish community was very careful not to be suspected of siding with Marine Le Pen,” Gurfinkiel said. He also noted that state provision of security to religious buildings and institutions means that Jewish organizations are “reluctant to raise certain questions.”
But as more time passes in the wake of Halimi’s murder, the calls to recognize its antisemitic nature are growing. Interviewed by the Le Parisien newspaper last week, the lawyers for the Halimi family, Jean-Alex Buchinger and David Kaminsky, said in no uncertain terms that Sarah Halimi had been “targeted, tortured and killed by her assailant because she was Jewish.”
Halimi’s murder robbed the Jewish community in Paris of one of its most loved figures, known for her work as a doctor and as a kindergarten teacher. “She was very well known and respected, a great person,” Gurfinkiel said. “The tragedy is that she was living in that part of Paris where Jews are gradually leaving, since the security doesn’t exist anymore.”
It also brought forth reminders of the 2006 kidnapping and murder of a young French Jew, Ilan Halimi — no relation to Ruth Halimi — whose body was left for dead by a mostly-Muslim gang who seized him out of the belief that Jews were wealthy and willing to pay ransom money.
“The French police were of no help during the whole (Ilan Halimi) episode, rejecting any idea that anti-Semitism could have played a role in the affair and preferring to believe the absurd notion that this was the result of some war between rival gangs,” Laignel-Lavastine noted in her letter about Ruth Halimi to French Interior Minister Collomb. “Ten years later, we have reached the same point.”
Traore is currently undergoing psychiatric tests and Jewish communal leaders are impatient for more information from authorities. “The more time passes, the more the community feels that there is something you do not want to tell us,” commented Joel Mergui, head of the Consistoire — the governing body of French Jewish communities.
Lavéritétriomphera says
M. Cohen,
For more information ask French government and especially the Minister of health Agnes Buzyn or Eric Zemmour and check your sources.
somehistory says
Ah, profiling. Profiling is used to catch serial killers. People are asked to notice if a friend or family member, co-worker, or acquaintance, begins to act differently,grows facial hair or shaves it off, moves away, changes jobs, etc….because these are things serial killers do …after the crimes.
When preparing to commit a terror act, a moslim will make changes in their “normal” behavior. They may begin to “pray” more, attend mosque more often, talk about wanting to do something, or kill someone. But, the person who is not moslim may not be aware of these kinds of things.
The “profiling” that co-workers do in these cases is very important. If they know for what to look, or have noticed one or more of these things, will they tell? Will their superiors listen if they tell?
Whether or not one tells, or are listened to when reporting the changes noticed, profiling moslims one knows may just save his/her life…because he or she is more aware and perhaps can protect against a terror attack such as being stabbed on the job.
Hopefully, the PD will not back down when called names.
Lavéritétriomphera says
“After dozens of attacks on Jews ranging from
street violence to kidnapping to a terrorist massacre
at an elementary school, much of France,
on the Right and Left, still [denies] that
the country has a problem with anti-Semitism.”
Have-you been in France? We know anti-semitism exists in our country.
gravenimage says
The French police were of no help during the whole (Ilan Halimi) episode, rejecting any idea that anti-Semitism could have played a role in the affair and preferring to believe the absurd notion that this was the result of some war between rival gangs,” Laignel-Lavastine noted in her letter about Ruth Halimi to French Interior Minister Collomb. “Ten years later, we have reached the same point.”
…………………..
I doubt that this is incorrect.
Lavéritétriomphera says
@gravenimage,
You are right https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affaire_du_gang_des_barbares.
M. Cohen must check his sources.
Lavéritétriomphera says
@gravenimage,
The true story :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Ilan_Halimi,
In my memory the anti-Semitic crime was mentioned almost immediately.
M. Cohen arrange les événements à sa sauce.
gravenimage says
Lavéritétriomphera, this article cites a quote. One can disagree with French journalist Alexandra Laignel-Lavastine–or not–but I very much doubt that this quote from The Algemeiner Journal is inaccurate.
Lavéritétriomphera says
@gravenimage,
“‘organized silence’ around the Halimi murder”,
The whole country was shocked by these murders especially the parti leader Marine Le Pen (Rassemblement National).
tgusa says
The French police no longer need to hit the streets in the fight against crime they just need to show up at their headquarters. Police having to police the police will not end well for anyone.
gravenimage says
France: Seven Muslim cops ordered to hand over their weapons, one suspended on suspicion of “Islamic radicalism”
…………………
Better late than ever. I just hope the police don’t cave to blather about “Islamophobia”.
Angemon says
B-b-b-but, I thought only those marginalized by the evil, racist, xenophobic, chauvinist French ended up “radicalized” due to a lack of opportunities!!! /sarc. off
Jayell says
Why do Western police forces continue to recruit muslims when everyone knows that islam rejects ‘man-made’ law and muslims are conditioned to disrespect non-muslims? Having people like that in the police is never going to promote confidence in the forces of law and order. Muslims effectively disqualify themselves as long as they choose to be muslims.
Michael Copeland says
“Personally, I don’t trust one Muslim in our military.
[I]f they truly are a devout Muslim, and follow the Quran and the Sunnah,
then I feel threatened because they’re commanded to kill me.”
TN Rep. Steve Womack
USAAF veteran
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/11/15/tenn-state-rep-i-dont-trust-one-muslim-in-our-military/
Lion Heart says
If is Muslim is a piece of gold, don’t put it in your pocket otherwise it will rip through “ that’s a proverb said by Iraqi Christian ancestors many centuries ago out of their bitter experience with Islam since its rise ; and that proverb means no matter how nice Muslims are but at the end of the day when they have the chance and the power especially when they take Islam seriously , they will stab back non Muslims especially Christians as they did in to their Iraqi Christian neighbours after 2003 and I am a Canadian Christian guy originally from Iraq.
J D S p says
Personally I don’t think any Muslim should be allowed to be on ANY police forces…but if they just have to employ them for some kind of balance, then the muslim MUST swear, in writing, that they don’t hold Muslim beliefs, values and practices, as stated in their writings, above the law of the land …even then there should be questions because lying, under oath or not, is part and parcel of the muslim way….it’s in the book!!
Michael Copeland says
“I sweared, but I did not mean it”,
Times Square would-be car-bomber to judge concerning his Oath of Allegiance.
Faisal Shahzad now serving life imprisonment.
somehistory says
You can take the moslim out of his moslim home country, but you can’t take the islam out of the moslim.. it either comes out as murder and rape, or , he has to purge himself of it.
No one should ever trust a moslim…esp when he’s holding a knife, gun, steering wheel, …
abad says
Moslems should not be on the police force in any western country.
Have we really forgotten that quickly about Justine Damond in Minneapolis and that Somali-born cop Noor who shot her?
Dachlan says
Why these European, so called the most educated people on earth. They are looks very hard to notice that the danger already inside their home. Are their living confortability the main cause.
Are they read the History of Andalusia? Are they ever read the history of Queen Isabella?
British, French and Belgium are over.