“The leader of a group against the Islamization of Norway was attacked by several men after setting fire to a copy of the Koran during a demonstration. Footage shows police intervening to stop the skirmish. A demonstration held by Stop Islamization of Norway (SIAN) in the city of Kristiansand turned violent after the group’s leader, Lars Thorsen, defied a police order against burning the holy Muslim book.”
Burning books is not a good practice to follow; better to read and refute them. But it has never been illegal in the West up to now. Western police are increasingly becoming slaves of the Sharia. Islam should not hold a place above all other religions in democratic states.
Marilyn Manson’s mosh pit Bible-burning performance led to no comparable violence and outrage; neither did a Ghanaian man who “was spotted in a viral video burning the Bible which according to him has no power like Christians claim.”
Christians would generally deem Manson and the Ghanaian to be either in need of prayer or ignore them altogether. No violence. No hurt feelings to the point of eliciting a violent or murderous response. But this Qur’an-burning incident in Norway led to violence, as it usually does whenever a Qur’an-burning happens or a Muhammad cartoon event takes place. Why? Because normative Islam preaches violence against those who blaspheme against Islam. Meanwhile, many Western “progressives” have taken to the defense of Islamic supremacy. Yet the Sharia is again and again proven to be incompatible with the freedoms that up to now have been guaranteed in Western societies.
“Norwegian anti-Islam rally turns violent over KORAN BURNING,” RT, November 19, 2019:
The leader of a group against the “Islamization” of Norway was attacked by several men after setting fire to a copy of the Koran during a demonstration. Footage shows police intervening to stop the skirmish.
A demonstration held by Stop Islamization of Norway (SIAN) in the city of Kristiansand turned violent after the group’s leader, Lars Thorsen, defied a police order against burning the holy Muslim book. The rally had been approved by local authorities, but police had warned SIAN against desecrating the Koran, after the group said it planned to do so.
Two copies of the religious text were thrown in a trash can during the rally, while Thorsen set fire to another one. The unsanctioned actions infuriated counter-protesters, who vaulted over a fence and attacked SIAN’s leader.
Video of the altercation shows Thorsen tossing away a burning Koran as an unidentified man charges at him. The man manages to grab Thorsen’s jacket, twisting him around. However, the assailant falls to the ground after attempting to kick the anti-Islam activist. Police then scramble to break up the fight as several other people rush at Thorsen.
Both Thorsen and his attackers were detained by police, according to media reports. In one video clip, Thorsen is led away by police with his hands behind his back, while his initial attacker is wrestled to the ground by a group of cops…..
Philis O'Shaughnessy says
Stupid Donkeys despise the true preaching of the Kingdom. I stand with Street preachers for the Kingdom of Jesus.
mortimer says
The ‘donkeys’ are the politicians who shield a fierce, intolerant, supremacist death cult from all criticism.
FYI says
marilyn manson should show us how tolerant he is and appreciative of our hard-won freedoms in the west,by doing a concert in Saudi Arabia and burning a koran.
It is a clever publicity stunt though ..given he calls himself “antichrist superstar”{in fact he should stay in the vatican,francis would probably love him:he’d feel at home}
I read about manson visiting the vatican once and him saying how weird it was.
{Pot..Kettle….Black}
Of course burning books might incur the wrath of the Eco-warriors:”pope” francis is currently inventing new sins in Rome,sins against the environment and we don’t want to incur the evil eye of St Greta “I want you to panic” Thunberg do we?
Maybe NOT paying the carbon tax,failure to be diligent in separating the Brown glass from the Green glass,failure to panic,NOT being a virtue-signalling vegan,maybe with the help of frankie with his false eco-theology that gives power to the Globalist agenda,maybe these will now be “sins”.
So maybe let us RECYCLE the korans instead….
JCLincoln says
Recycle them into pigskin toys for dogs.
James Davis says
Apparently, “Progressive”, AKA, Communist “GLOBALIST’S”, aren’t
getting enough “MULTICULTURAL DIVERSITY”, & Should be Deported, to SOMALIA, or Northern SUDAN, For A Real Dose
Of “ISLAMIC REALITY”!!??
Emilie Green says
Find Muslims
Find violence.
One of life’s constants.
Keys says
“Nothing is certain but death and taxes and muslim violence”.
peter says
Very well put! Thanks !
CogitoErgoSum says
What’s the problem? If a man buys a book and then throws it into the trash what right does anyone have to stop him? If it was legally bought and paid for a man should be able to do with it as he pleases. It’s his property — same as his wife. Beat your wife, burn your book; what’s the difference? Both are your own property to do with as you please. Are you telling me a book deserves more respect than a woman? In what book did you read that?
elee says
Well stated CES, I applaud. Ill burn any damned book I want, and I will call my government to protect both my property right and my right to express myself in this fashion. Though id prefer to reason together and refute whatever book CES refers to……I certainly would not be provided that opportunity under Islam.
PRCS says
The police had issued an order to not BURN a Qur’an
No mention of an order to not throw it on the ground, in the trash, tear pages out of it, put raw bacon in it (à la Ann Barnhardt), spit on it, etc.
IMO, throwing a few in the trash would have accomplished the mission (as the response to just one being thrown there demonstrates.
Ole Pederson says
Thank you! This is Islam in one sentence.
Michawel Copeland says
“It’s a terrible book” —
Tanya Joya, ex-Muslim, ex-wife of ISIS jihadi
See “Book Reviews: the Koran”
https://gatesofvienna.net/2019/11/book-reviews-the-koran/
PRCS says
I’m reminded of this:
Swedish cartoonist Lars Vilks attacked by muslim…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPmb9TxEY8w
FYI says
Draw a picture of allah {with his ONE leg and his TWO Right hands}
muslims:meh.Who cares?
Draw a picture of allah’s “prophet” muhammed.
muslims;allahu akbar!The prophet has been insulted..!
This is just an excuse by muslims to act like thugs:you can insult allah but you cannot insult allah’s prophet…how nuts is that?
so allah’s prophet is ABOVE allah!
How can a prophet be above the god he claims to be subject to?
How can muhammed be made out to be above his god..unless..unless
muhammed is made out to be equal to God.
Let’s not pretend it really has anything to do with a cartoon.
gravenimage says
True, PRCS. Thanks for that link.
Giacomo Latta says
Hmm, Swedish police applying the law. I didn’t think they did that!
Tony Naim says
This is the kind of cr@p that Christians in the Middle East have put up with for the past 1400 years. Now Europe and America are in the process of welcoming savagery in its purest form.
Savagery with a religious veil.
Unless the Koran is outlawed in the west, more is yet to be revealed! Or at least it’s portion with violent verses.
PRCS says
Outlawing Qur’an in the West simply isn’t going to happen.
It would still be available on the Internet, in other countries, etc.
gravenimage says
We all need to read the Qur’an, to see what Islam has in store for us.
Martin says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfOhKbt-Ab0
Martin says
2 min 23 video with Eng subs –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wd3nWxcUVIE
Carol the 1st says
Is it “racist” to be critical of a religion that turns its followers into nutcases who want to exploit and encroach upon others? Narcissism can take a group/cultural form rather than just an individual form and “thin skin” is a hallmark of narcissism. They can’t handle criticism and probably also “identify with the aggressor” – as in Stockholm Syndrome – (in this case Moe and his sock-puppet).This must surely be the explanation of insane, bloated, squeals of distress unaccompanied by any guilt or sensitivity toward far more deserving subjects.
Tom says
Anti Islam groups can make their point about Islam without burning books. This appears to have just been a direct provocation by the leadership of the SIAN group to incite violence.
The cause opposing the Islamization of the country can get their point across without having to resort to tactics that incite violence.
Violence only helps those who claim Islamophobia.
gravenimage says
Whatever you think of BBQing a Qur’an, do you *really* believe that Muslims have the right to assault people for a non-violent act?
And what else “incites violence” from Muslims? Why, holding an Anti-Islamization rally.
Does Tom want to ban all criticization of Islam, as well?
And why would Muslims being violent be “Islamophobic”? This is projection.
Tom says
Calm down. I never suggested any of the things you said. I merely said that the incitement from that guy was unnecessary in order to make their point.
We all know that Islamists don’t need any stimulus to attack or riot so why give them that extra push and in the process further alienate those in our community that are unsure which side is right.
We are supposed to be the rational side of this fight against Islamists, let’s keep it that way.
No one has been more critical of Islam than I have and will continue to be.
Carol the 1st says
Calm talk and thwarted efforts at properly educating the public don’t seem to work. Instead actually risking drawing forth such crazy emotional reactions and violence might open stubbornly closed eyes before it’s too late. Get real, you’re acting too cerebral.
gravenimage says
OK, Tom.
But you should know that the mere existence of non-Muslims is considered “incitement” to Muslims.
Martin says
11 min 11 sec video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUeUVxAbLFw
Merri-joy says
Burning the Quran was a very provocative act – the sentiments I can understand – however it’s the Gospel that brings people to repentance & salvation!
Quoting verses from the Quran to show the truth of the wicked ideology could have made a greater impact!
Carol the 1st says
Not likely, and it seems the apparent non-muslim lefties in the crowd were able to refrain from physical attacks. I feel sorry for decent police who have to endure this nonsense. I admire the men who helped protect a group who seems to be willing to DRAW OUT the garbage that’s been instilled in followers of such a creed (those people). I worry for the fine black dog.
Angemon says
Wait, the pro-islam (a.k.a., the “religion of peace”) people turned violent? What a twist!!! /sarc. off
gravenimage says
+1
Giacomo Latta says
Why is it that, despite the number of times muslims are offended and the degree to which they are offended, muslims never leave in a huff (or any other way)?
James Lincoln says
Any personally owned book should be able to be burned as long as it is done:
Safely.
and…
In an “environmentally friendly” fashion…
somehistory says
“desecrate” has the meaning of treating something “sacred” with disrespect. So, the filthy book he burned, could not be “desecrated.”
I saw this news item in the Washington Standard a couple of days ago. I don’t recall that it used the word there, nor that it called this filthy writing “holy.”
If more people knew just how nasty this piece of filth is, perhaps more people would be burning it.
When someone is highly allergic to a substance, doctors may recommend heavy does of the offender.
If there were more and more, heavier and heavier, doses of this book burning, …moslims wouldn’t get used to it and stop rioting, but it would show just how violent they can be over a book that they may have left lying in the hot desert sun on the sands between Mexico City and across the Rio Grande in Southern Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona.
Many copies of the book, along with preying rugs, have been found…just lying in the dirt, burning in the sun. It’s really just a convenient tool to use to show everyone else just how tough molsims can be…when there are large groups of them and the cops stand by until sufficient time passes they can arrest those who hate the filth.
I don’t have a copy. Don’t want it, don’t need it, and wouldn’t waste a precious penny on one. So, I won’t be burning one, but had someone given me one, in the flames it would go. Or to the local landfill. It is trash, after all.
I slam islam says
More of this koranburning is required everywhere everyday The muslims funded with petrodollars are on a roll and if pushback doesnt start soon may God help us. I despise the CCP butthey are showing the world what to do with islam.as is the Government of Myanmar…islam is evil
Lotus says
I don’t know what the law is in Norway, but the Norwegian man might have been arrested for breach of the peace. This is a legal category which can catch many types of behaviour if performed in certain ways, such as in public.
For example, it may not be illegal to burn a Quran in your backyard, but it could be a breach of the peace to do it in public in front of a hostile crowd.
Interestingly and importantly, BOP offences are mitigated in the US by First Amendment protection:
// In the United States, prosecutions for breach of the peace are subject to constitutional constraints. In Terminiello v. City of Chicago, the United States Supreme Court held that an ordinance of the City of Chicago that banned speech which “stirs the public to anger, invites dispute, brings about a condition of unrest, or creates a disturbance” was unconstitutional under the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.
Justice Douglas stated: “Accordingly a function of free speech under our system of government is to invite dispute. It may indeed best serve its high purpose when it induces a condition of unrest, creates dissatisfaction with conditions as they are, or even stirs people to anger. Speech is often provocative and challenging. It may strike at prejudices and preconceptions and have profound unsettling effects as it presses for acceptance of an idea.” //
That judgement was handed down in 1949. Unfortunately, the judge’s clarity and good sense then have been undermined by today’s victim culture, where saying or doing anything which someone finds offensive has become the great crime. And of course the Muslims take full advantage of this.
Here’s the Wikipedia link from which the above quote was taken:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breach_of_the_peace
gravenimage says
Yes, Lotus–in other words, if you are “inciting” violent Muslims by daring to say anything critical of the horrors of Islam, you are the one responsible for a breach of the peace–not the violent Muslims attacking you.
I’ve heard this vicious claptrap before, and find it grotesque. This was why Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller have been banned from Britain–because Muslims would be violent, not these peaceful people.
This gives all the power of the law to the most violent, lawless people there are–no way can a civilized nation survive this for long.
Lotus says
I agree with you, Graven.
That wise Justice Douglas had a robust view of how citizens should talk and behave in a healthy democracy. He would not be a fan of today’s snowflakes.
He came of a generation which had seen democracies strain and fall in the Thirties, menaced on either side by fascism and communism, and the horrors of the Second World War were still very vivid.
That era showed politicians and legislators just how vulnerable a democracy could be. So the Justice put healthy disagreement and critical examination of ideologies front and centre, discounting whether some were offended by that. Good for him!
johan says
In that case…the Quran is breaching the peace. It’s speech clearly ‘stirs public anger, etc’
Naseer Ahmad Virk says
It is happening for the 2nd time and it is all directed protected by the Norway government. It is all intentionally. I would request every Muslim to leave Norway immediately if you respect your religion. There are many other countries where you can live and work.
Henry says
Good to see that someone in the degenerated west stood up to the murderous cult. I hope that Norway hasn’t degenerated to the extent of suicidal Sweden. Islam understands force only. So, it should be spoken to accordingly beginning from the leftist scum.
Ella says
Muslims consider the Quran to be the word of God and insist it be treated with the utmost respect, along with any printed material containing its verses or the name of Allah or the Prophet Muhammad. Any intentional damage or show of disrespect to the Quran is deeply offensive.
Same as it would be for any other religious sector of faith and their respect for their holy book. All the discrimination and destruction is not helping humanity.
So much hate in this world…
What have we become 🙁
Carol the 1st says
Maybe HATE is needed in order to have appropriately strong defenses or a warning bell against what seriously threatens to clobber us awake in a heavy duty way. Perhaps a new word would serve everyone better because the kafir’s *ANGRY, MOTIVATING REPULSION* is not (at least not initially) a personal thing. It is not yet directed at individual beings. (I leave that natural emotion to the many, many, many damaged and destroyed victims of people who accept, support and/or act upon such a repulsive, damaging creed).
The other day I happened to catch part of video (created in Maidstone, Ontario – I wish I’d caught more details because I’d be complaining to someone). Center stage was a middle-aged caretaker/teacher who had a group of about a dozen children (6-9-ish?) sitting on the floor at her feet. She proceeded to school them (in the very “nicest” of ways) as to how they “should ALWAYS, ALWAYS respect authority and act according to how such great people had decided we should act”. She went over this theme *over and over again* while the children sat with bland (and hopefully guarded) faces. Perhaps they were remembering *opposing* advice which had something to do with not cooperating with child molesters? or politicians like Trudeau? or mullahs like Khomeini? or Kommunists? or Koranimals? Fortunately these children may have the reservoir of wisdom that comes from a culture than has not been completely desecrated.
Shamim Chowdhury says
Knowingly not from ignorence you provoke someone and you call yourself a good guy!
Liberty and freedom doesn’t mean to be racist.
You can burn if you don’t like it thats fine, but when are broadcasting in someones face you are basicaly insulting him. Does’t matter what his ethnicity or religion he or she practices.
gravenimage says
Islam is not a race, and criticizing the savagery of Islam is not ignorance.
Criticizing horrors like child marriage, wife beating, slavery and sex slavery, mass slaughter, and genocide *are* good things.
And if you practice barbarism you should be insulted by good people. Why should anyone respect evil?