The captured Islamic State jihadis don’t believe that European states are their countries at all. They consider themselves to be citizens of the worldwide Islamic umma. When back in Europe, many of them are likely to continue their jihad there. This problem is the responsibility of European leaders, as Soylu says. They admitted large Muslim populations into their countries, heedless of the certainty that there would be jihadis among them, and all the while excoriating and silencing those who warned of this. The chaos that is coming to Europe is on them.
“Turkey says will send Islamic State prisoners to home countries, Reuters, November 2, 2019:
ISTANBUL (Reuters) – Interior Minister Suleyman Soylu said on Saturday Turkey would send captured Islamic State members back to their home countries, and he complained about European inaction on the matter.
“That is not acceptable to us. It’s also irresponsible,” he said of Europe leaving Turkey to deal with the prisoners alone. “We will send the captured Daesh members to their countries,” he told reporters, using another name for Islamic State….
CogitoErgoSum says
According to Koran 5:33:
“The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive to spread corruption through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter.”
The Turks will not use the word “Islamic” to describe the members of ISIS but instead call them “Daesh.” Were these “Daesh” not spreading mischief throughout the land? Were they not fighting against “true” Islam?
Do they not deserve the penalty prescribed by the Koran? There is more than one form of punishment for them besides exile from the land. All who supported “Daesh” could be executed.
These Turks know that ISIS was not fighting against Islam but rather fighting FOR a purer form of Islam. The Turks are the ones who have corrupted Islam and they are the ones who deserve the punishment that Allah set forth in the Koran. They should know that a heavy punishment awaits them in the Hereafter.
OR …… they just want to export the purer form of Islam to the rest of the world.
mortimer says
CES, this is about the issue of ‘stateless persons’. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statelessness
CogitoErgoSum says
But should the Turks place the laws of man above the words of Allah? Okay, I suppose they may if they believe in the long run it will help further the cause of Islam. For them the means is always justified if they think the end result will be to the benefit of Islam. Keep in mind that whatever they do, it will ALWAYS be for the benefit of Islam. This is why we should NEVER work in cooperation with them. The end result of doing so will always be to our detriment. Think this: helping bin Laden in Afghanistan against the Soviets resulted in the attacks of Sept 11 on the U.S.
mortimer says
When Muslims refer to ‘The Islamic Nation’, pay attention. There is a trick involved.
FYI says
Blindfold them,put them on a plane,tell them they are going back to Europe.. but then either secretly dump them in Somalia,back in Syria or at the vatican[where francis will surely welcome them after washing their feet first as a sign of his incredible love for immigrants,especially if they are muslim,his coreligionists}
Westman says
I would vote for the mountains of Iran. One instruction of how to pull the rip cord and one push out the door.
The big difference between Turkey and the West is Turkey will actually dump the ISIS terrorists out of Turkey while the West sinks into the swamp of indecision.
European pagan says
Shoot them down, çok teşekkür ederim.
Lynn Miller says
The countries who are getting their IS members back must find a way to put them in prison and keep them there. Unfortunately most countries in Europe and the US too are unable to do that. Weak laws against terrorism and progressives within the countries who love those who hate them prevent that.
gravenimage says
No nations should take these thugs back.
Rueben_Singh says
To be frank, I think the european nations should be made to take them back.
For years they have and infact continue to allow these islamist fre reign and give them sanctuary, while lecturing other countries about human rights. Because 30-40 years ago they never faced this threat.
Now they do, and they know that their laws are lax and soft. Which was fine when you are applying them to islamists that were killing Jews in Israel, or Hindu’s, Sikhs and Buddhists in India, Thailand, Burma. Give them asylum and appear self-rightous and sanctimonious, put themselves on a pedastal and preach values when they do not face threats.
Now the chickens have come home to roost and they are scared.
Europe should be forced to take them back.
Yes it will lead to more death, terror and horror, but in the long run this will lead to harsher laws, not just to punish perpertrators, but in entry, residence, asylum and it will show the public especially the left/liberal types exactly what they are dealing with.
Western europe needs to eat this particular shit sandwich, to get a taste of what it has been feeding others.
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gravenimage says
No one should have to take these Muslim thugs back–not the West, and not nations like India or Israel, either.
Do you *really* want to see the West fall to Islam because others have also suffered at the hands of Jihadists? This might give you some enjoyable schadenfreude, but would not actually make the world safer.
Rueben_Singh says
“This might give you some enjoyable schadenfreude” no that is not the reason. The west is on a learning curve, it has started learning but needs to learn faster to save itself. The west will not fall to islam, it is begining to wake. This mess was created by the west, not just by it’s pointless invasion of Iraq, subversion of Syria and overthrow of Gadahafi but by it’s own internal weakness. I don’t want to see bloodshed here, my kids are at uni, London/UK is full of islamists, but the liberal left needs to see for itself the nature of these beasts they pander to. They will only change their mind when they are confronted with blood shed. That is the only way.
schadenfreude has nothing to do with it.
gravenimage says
The implication that the West created Jihad by invading Iraq is quite mistaken. What do you think 9/11 was? The fact is that Jihad is a key part of Islam, and has been from the beginning.
Do you think the Jihad against India is all because of Iraq and Libya?
gravenimage says
Turkey’s Interior Minister: “We will send the captured Daesh [Islamic State] members to their countries”
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Civilized Infidel nations are not these Muslim thugs countries. Not only are most of them migrants, but they then decamped to the “Caliphate”, where they would still be if the Islamic State had not been dismantled.
This is more of Turkey threatening to flood us with more murderous Jihadists.
jca reid says
They then get new I/D papers either in their own Nationality or another Muslim majority country. In Sweden in 2018, an “Afghani” was arrested for accosting a young teenage girl on a bus. He was hoping to get her back to his apartment where there were 3-4 other Muslim men waiting. He had all the authentic documents. It wasn’t until his fingerprint results came back for this event they’d got his actual identity. He was not whom his new papers identified himself as, but a Muslim of another nationality. He’d just completed a 5-6year in Prison Sentence for Sex Crimes. Result – the Swedish government made him a Minister for Culture!! No joke!!
Angemon says
Will he give them a medal as a thanks for their services on his behalf?…