Before I begin this piece I would like to ask readers NOT to contact any of the individuals named in this article. This is because to do so could be construed as ‘Perverting the Course of Justice’ and that is in British law an offence. I respectfully request that you the reader do nothing that could be seen as ‘perverting justice’. As an aside, the information that I am sharing is not that much different from what Count Dankula shared when he was arrested for a bullshit ‘hate speech’ crime, so I do not believe that any of the information that I’m sharing is privileged in any way or that sharing it constitutes any offense.
And so the story begins…
On Tuesday the 22nd October, at approximately 07:15, whilst I was getting my four year old child ready for school, there was a rather aggressive knock at my front door. I opened the door and found a whole bunch of police officers who wanted me to come out and ‘talk to them’. Knowing what the modern day British police are like in too many cases, which is thuggish and dishonest, I shut the door in their faces. The police do not turn up mob handed merely to have ‘a chat’. Instead I picked up the handset for my entryphone, which is remotely recorded, and spoke to the officer’s via that method.
I politely requested that they state the reason why they were at my front door and they said ‘we just want to talk’ and ‘you must come outside to speak’. They refused my request that I would speak to them via the window and insisted that I come out. Whilst this was going on I was watching what was happening on CCTV, the footage of which is now secured off site. I could see at least six police officers swarming around my front garden and to my back garden to which they had gained access. There were I observed, four officers in the front and two in the back.
The officer who appeared to be leading this mob of officers, kept saying ‘we want you to come outside so we can talk to you’. Of course I refused. This is because I know from other cases of a similar nature where the police have said this that this is a ruse to gain entry to a property so that they can later say that the occupier ‘invited’ them in. The lead officer, whom I later found out was PC Choudhury of Sidcup who is attached to Sadiq Khan’s ‘hate crime and hate speech’ unit, became ever more threatening and aggressive in his tone and refused to state exactly why he and the rest of the officers were there. He and the other officers kept shouting through the door that if I did not open the door then they would break it down. Because I did not want my son exposed to what the police were obviously going to do I sent him upstairs with my wife.
After about five minutes or so of these officers banging on the front door and issuing threats to break it down and officers menacingly patrolling my back garden, an officer, who at this point I cannot positively identify, brought up what looked like a battering ram. The officers were shouting through the door ‘we are going to break the door down now’.
As the officers said they would, they smashed the lock on my front door causing approximately £100 worth of damage. At least three officers, one of whom was PC Choudhury, rushed into the house and into the kitchen at the back of the house. PC Choudhury then cautioned me, arrested me for ‘Malicious communication and racial and religious hatred’ and put me in handcuffs. They guided me out into the front garden where they searched me and then put me in the back of a police van and took me to the local police station. Whilst I was being searched in the front garden my son escaped from his Mum and ran downstairs to the front door and say his daddy being searched and taken away by police. If I recall correctly I turned to my son and said to him ‘don’t worry, it will be all right, daddy loves you’. He’s been asking me ‘are the policemen going to come back again?’ I will never forgive or forget the trauma that these officers put my child through.
Before I was put in the police van I noticed that a considerable amount of police resources had been put into this arrest and there were at least two police cars present along with the van. I found out later that PC Choudhury and his Met Police civilian assistant, had traveled up the night before, distance of 150 miles and had stayed, at the taxpayers expense, in one of my city’s poshest hotels at a roughly estimated cost including meals of at least £150 per night. It’s good to know that Sadiq Khan’s ‘hate crime and hate speech’ unit is spending Londoners’ money so sensibly isn’t it? Maybe the Met has run out of real crime? Do I need a sarcasm sign here, no I don’t think so.
The police then searched my property and took away all my IT equipment including phones in order to examine them to see if they were related to the ‘offence’ that I had been arrested for. They also took my wife’s computer which is more than little annoying as she needs this machine for her work.
When we got to the police station I was booked in under the catch all and increasingly misused ‘malicious communication and racial and religious hatred’ acts, searched again and put in a cell. The custody sergeant, who incidentally said that I was one of the most polite detainees he had had in a long time, furnished me with paper copies of my rights whilst detained and a requested copy of the Bible, which I used in the cell to meditate upon Psalm 35, a psalm that was appropriate for this situation. I was removed from the cell, photographed, fingerprinted and had DNA taken. I was put back in the cell to await questioning and the arrival of the duty solicitor.
Before questioning by PC Choudhury I consulted with the duty solicitor, who luckily turned out to be far better than many who perform this function, and I told him that I was not going to answer any questions that the police put to me, as is my right. I also gave the police a written statement that I was merely exercising my right to speak freely. I was offered food but I refused on the grounds that the food is unlikely to be Kosher but I was offered and accepted hot drinks as there’s not much you can do to instant coffee that would make this item not Kosher, or Treyf.
Eventually I was brought, along with my solicitor, to an interview room for questioning under caution. I gave the officer my pre-prepared statement about speaking freely and the interview commenced. Of course I answered nearly all questions with ‘no comment’ and refused also to identify the vast majority of the items that the police alleged that they had removed from my home. The police also claimed that they had in possession written correspondence that they believed was between me and others who have challenged both Islam and ‘hate speech’ laws and certain organizations.
Although I did not answer any questions, the questions themselves gave me an inkling into what the arrest was all about. From what I could gather both Mr Mughal, who is the founder of the Tell Mama organisation and London’s Mayor Sadiq Khan had complained about memes mocking them that the police allege they saw on the Fahrenheit211 website. They also asked me about an allegation made by Mr Mughal that I questioned the narrative surrounding the ‘punish a Muslim day’ case in which doubt was cast on the idea that this was the work of an organised group and rather, as it turned out, the work of a lone and deranged nutcase. The police asked me if I was an ‘Islamophobe’ to which I replied ‘no comment’. They also asked me to disclose my passcodes for the machines that they claimed they had seized to which I replied ‘no comment’
Incidentally, if you want further information about some of the criticisms that have been levelled against the Tell Mama organisation and those involved in it along with the sad state of freedom of speech in the UK, then I can highly recommend that you read Nick Monroe’s article ‘Escape from Big Mother” It is an article that makes for illuminating and indeed frightening reading, especially for those who live in nations that, unlike the UK, have a greater respect for freedom of speech and freedom of expression. It should encourage those in places like the USA to hold on tight to their First Amendment, because without it the average citizen may suddenly find that there are a whole load of subjects that they may wish to discuss that are now ‘forbidden’.
I got the distinct impression that the police were trying to get me to make their job of prosecuting me for ‘hate speech’ easy by having me answer questions. This, knowing the parlous state of UK police forces, was not something that I was prepared to do. Basically, the Met are trying to prosecute me for memes and for criticism of those groups who are in receipt of vast amounts of public money, resources to which I and others do not consider them entitled to have.
After discovering that I was not going to answer any of the police’s questions, I was released at present without charge on unconditional bail pending investigation. I suspect that this case will go the way of many other similar cases of ‘malicious communication’ and ‘hate speech’ where the long drawn out process of investigation is the punishment or part of the punishment and also a way of intimidating those who engage in ‘wrongthink’.
I would like to take this opportunity to thank all the many people who have contacted me both privately and publicly to offer their support and those associates who have contacted various online ‘influencers’ in order to gain publicity not just for my case but also to support the cause of free speech in general. I have been truly heartened by those who have voiced their support and especially to those in the United States who are encouraging a letter writing campaign aimed at the British Embassy in Washington DC. I would also like to thank those (you know who you are) who have given me facilities to work ‘off site’ which is why I’m able to continue writing.
This case is likely to run and run, a bit like the West End play ‘The Mousetrap’, although hopefully not as long as that particular production. I have also been questioned by another government entity that has the misfortune to share initials with a security organisation that was operating in Germany between 1933 and 1945. This I believe is standard practise when a person who is arrested has children. But I have told this organisation the truth. That is that I am a centre rightist Jewish conservative who believes in equality between races, equality between men and women between different sexualities, along with civic nationalism, British values and who is not a member of any extreme party or political grouping. The last party that I was a member of was the Conservative Party who in no way could be called ‘extreme’ by any reasonable person.
This incident will not discourage me from standing up not just for the idea of freedom of speech, which includes freedom of speech for those with whom I vehemently disagree. I am also not discouraged in my view that ‘hate speech’ legislation has no place in a society that considers itself to be free as not only do ‘hate speech’ laws have a chilling effect on a citizen or subject’s speech, but also because they create a two tier system where one group is given virtually carte blanche to say what they want but others do not have this right. If I’m not fighting here, I will be fighting this fight elsewhere and I would encourage others to peacefully and politely protest against both the removal of free speech rights for Britons, but also the damaging and all too easily abused categories of ‘hate speech’ and ‘hate crime’ legislation. In these matters we should be treated as equals no matter what our skin colour or belief system, something that the plethora of ‘hate crime’ legislation does not do. I’m going to fight this case as hard as I possibly can, as it’s not just my fight, but the same fight as everyone who wants freedom of speech and the repeal of the increasingly hated ‘hate speech’ and ‘hate crime’ laws.
terry sullivan says
all plod are civilians
Leslie Fish says
Throw Choudery out. Deport him to Mecca, and don’t let him come back.
Captain says
In the US there is a civil remedy for civil rights violations under color of law Section 1983 and 1985 and these officers, the London Mayor and tell Momma would be answerable in court before a jury wherr they would have to justify or pay big time. There would also be criminal action available but innthe USk they own the prosecutors apparently.
smoris says
There were undoubtedly civil remedies once in Britain also. The problem is these remedies along with all other rights erode if neglected and not honored by every citizen. And look at statistics before you count on a jury in the US. Recently we saw one where a significant majority of students do not want freedom of speech. This is why we need to correct our “education” system or get rid of it. People are being trained to obliterate our rights.
Del says
Hundreds of thousands of English men and women died in WW1 & WW2, just to have basic democracy and freedoms thrown in the garbage because of the fear the police have of the violence of Islam. Their lives have been wasted. To hell with the Police, to hell with Government, to hell with Islam. Evil filth. Police acting like this simply reinforces the low opinion the world has about Islam. Our opinions are justified.
St. Ferdinand III says
Met Police – led by a Moslem mayor and Moslem police officers, instituting a Gestapo.
No Moslem has had their door shattered and 6 police officers raiding their house, under ‘hate speech’ suspicions.
Police State manufactured for the benefits of Queers and Moslems.
We live in London and it is well known that you can be jailed for criticising the Fascism called Muhammadism.
But Moslems are never indicted on their hate speech against the Infidel ape and pig.
Karen Brierley says
100% correct and expertly written
jack k warner says
I do like to confirm your comment, I’m grown up in a country where Nazi German was present doing 1940 to 1945. I have seen so many situations were Gestapo and SS do raids to people because they may have told or written something that this gangster organizations don’t like.
When I read a report like this today, i was again seen the same passing like in my child hood.
Free speech was that time forbidden and was very often punish with dead on a open street.
Today I see the same come back in a form that looks like the book ”Main kampf” been read and use in this days.
Now I’m in the end of my life, passing well over the 80 s. and look to he day I can go to sleep, the very long sleep…
Hope for the rest of the free world, try to solve all this monster- one for all like it was done with
Hitler Germany….
gravenimage says
So scary–yes, this is reminiscent of Nazi Germany and Communist states.
Robert Porter says
Amazing, isn’t it, anyone who has read the Qur’an knows that it is full of what should constitute “hate speech”, but in Britain Muslims have been allowed to control the narrative. Pathetic! What I ask is why the likes of Boris Johnson and Adam Rees-Mogg do nothing about the destruction of the British nation by bloody Muslims, the dregs of humanity.
Cathy says
I’m not British but I think Boris Johnson is in a similar situation as Prez Trump. The opposition is strong enough that the reforms they want are voted down by the left. Johnson has barely begun his term. Trump is almost in his 4th year and the swamp keeps growing because the swamper left doesn’t care if they break laws or play dirty. Trump and Johnson are not dictators, or they could probably wipe out the opposition. But they can only fight legally and “democratically” and so are restricted. This is why civil war is being threatened in both the UK and the US. And bottom line, both countries have let in those who don’t share our democratic values, and yet they’re given privileged untouchable status. So that’s your problem, not PM Johnson.
Joshua Le Trumpet says
Dear Mr Spencer. Thank you very much for featuring the story of my current plight. It’s been over two weeks since I was arrested, at great public expense, for allegedly ‘offending’ Fiyaz Mughal with a comedic meme. I am currently on unconditional bail and have not yet been charged, but in Britain, in the current circumstances with no legal guarantee of freedom of speech, I certainly expect to be charged with ‘speaking ill of Islam’ ie a Communications Act and Racial and Religious Hatred Act ‘offence’.
I am going to fight this as hard as I can, not just for my sake but also for the thousands of other Britons who are arrested and charged under the very dubious ‘hate speech’ offences brought in by Britain’s previous Labour government. These ‘hate speech’ laws are a menace to freedom and liberty and are too easily abused by charlatans and snowflakes to silence critics. They are also exploitable by Islamic activists far worse than those I have run into to curtail genuine criticism of Islam.
Thanks again for featuring my story of life in an increasingly unfree United Kingdom.
Joshua
Steven Lambdin says
Thanks for giving us this story. It’s heartbreaking to think that in the actual seat of the Freedoms we have now, that it has come to this.
I can’t help but think that if every Jew had greeted the “Inquisitor” at the door, with other than cooperation, it would have been far too much trouble to continue. Thank God for Jihadwatch.org
somehistory says
I’m sorry you have been made to suffer this miscarriage of law. Esp so for your little boy and your wife. I hope you win your case.
With moslims ‘in charge’ of the government, enforcing the laws, etc., there will be no justice.
Herb L says
there is only Justice when a Muslim kills a Kifir or Infidel. That are their goals, that are their agenda’s. There is no middle ground for a Muslim and when we show them mercy, they want to kill us because they see Mercy as a weakness and are submitting to Islam and deserve to be killed.
carpediadem says
WEll it’s not as if normal people run for office. They leave the field open only to those who hate the UK and Jews while they moan on blogs about losing their freedoms.
Daniel Triplett says
While many Britons remain silent in fear and obedience, a few risk all for everyone, expanding the reach of liberty and opposing the tyranny. Stay strong Brother. Stay at the front of the fight.
gravenimage says
Thank you for sharing this terrible story here. I wish you the best in fighting this miscarriage of justice.
Lt Mason says
From Malaysia, former Colony of Great Britain.
The secular constitution we inherited from the British has turned on its head and is now Islamic. In this majority Islamic country, where the Constitutional Monarch is a Muslim, the PM is a Muslim, the Military is majority Muslim, the Police is majority Muslim, and the Civil Service is majority Muslim (majority is >85%) the majority Muslims would without hesitation label a non-Muslim an Islamophobe even if the person actually pose a reasonable criticism on Islam, for example, questioning why non-Muslim primary school kids, during Ramadan, can only eat their lunch in the toilet.
Support you Joshua.
http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Non-Muslim-pupils-forced-to-eat-in-bathroom-because-of-Ramadan-28561.html
Islam is a hateful religion.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3139916/School-firebombed-Malaysian-teacher-told-non-Muslim-students-wanted-drink-Ramadan-bathroom-consume-urine.html
Andrew E Walker says
Dear Joshua,
You have an absolute defence to any charge because of Section 29J Protection of freedom of expression
Nothing in this Part shall be read or given effect in a way which prohibits or restricts discussion, criticism or expressions of antipathy, dislike, ridicule, insult or abuse of particular religions or the beliefs or practices of their adherents, or of any other belief system or the beliefs or practices of its adherents, or proselytising or urging adherents of a different religion or belief system to cease practising their religion or belief system.
The police are obviously ignorant of the above provisions, because in view of them there were no grounds for the police to involve themselves in this matter.
Best wishes.
David Hancock says
Unfortunately, Section 29J isn’t part of Shariah.
gravenimage says
By the way, Joshua Le Trumpet, I love your username.
Yes, when enough good people speak out, the results can be amazing.
Ronald Berrington says
I wish you simply what you are deservedly entitled to – total success!
Aunty Podes, New Zealand
Where Commissar Ardern is desperately trying to further her UN ambitions by selling her country down the drain with statements like, “They (Mislims) are us!” and permitting immigration at a higher rate than Britain.
Michael Copeland says
Kafkaesque.
Jay says
Bingo.
Joshua Le Trumpet says
It is indeed Kafkaesque Mr Copeland. Groups like Tell Mama and the individuals who are seemingly behind this case have too much power, too much influence and definitely too much public money.
Linda Rivera says
Joshua, God bless and protect you and your family.
I have read that a few years ago, Tell Mama lied and were found out in their lies but are still gifted with British taxes to destroy the free speech of non Muslims and persecute innocents.
I don’t remember this man’s name. It was right before World War 2 started. He was a wonderful Jew who traveled all over Europe begging Jews to leave Europe, warning them of their great danger. The danger signals were all around. Jews ignored his warning. The result: 6 million Jews were murdered by God hater Hitler and his God hater Nazis.
You, and all Jews must make arrangements now and be ready to leave quickly when you see things worsen. I have never been to Israel. It’s an amazing country! God’s Holy Land. A special nation to escape to.
gravenimage says
This is the very definition of Kafkaesque.
carpediadem says
No it is not.
Kafka was never told of his crime.
gravenimage says
carpediadem, this, from the story above:
I politely requested that they state the reason why they were at my front door and they said ‘we just want to talk’ and ‘you must come outside to speak’. They refused my request that I would speak to them via the window and insisted that I come out. Whilst this was going on I was watching what was happening on CCTV, the footage of which is now secured off site. I could see at least six police officers swarming around my front garden and to my back garden to which they had gained access. There were I observed, four officers in the front and two in the back.
The officer who appeared to be leading this mob of officers, kept saying ‘we want you to come outside so we can talk to you’…
………………………
This shows that police did not tell him what they wanted him for; indeed, they lied to him, saying that they only wanted to talk.
It was only after they arrested him that they gave the vague charge of “Malicious communication and racial and religious hatred”.
I guess this is “better” than what Josef K suffered, but not by much…
Also, Josef K was not booked at the police station, nor did he have all of his computer equipment and files (or their equivalent at the time, papers and notes) taken by the police.
So is this treatment *really* better?
Stephen Silverstein says
They march through London on Al Quuds Day, chanting racist rhetoric and nothing happens to them.
The day will come when the trickle of Jews emigrating to Israel will be a flood!
gravenimage says
Grimly true. None of *this* is considered hate.
14thAugust 1988 says
all the best !
Cathy says
If you read Jeremiah 16:16, this might make more sense to you. The prophet had warned us of just this kind of thing. It’s to get the Jews to return to the homeland.
Tom says
Its clear to see what the result of appeasement can do to freedom of speech, and how the infiltration of our political systems, by nefarious groups bent on the destruction of western society, can influence the creation of laws which are draconian and totalitarian.
I fear for our western civilization when a country such as the UK has been so easily and surreptitiously taken over by those who are determined to destroy it.
L. D. Haney says
A word of alarm for those of us on the west side of the pond…
Israel Oren says
I would say “Screw Britannia” and come to Israel…Join the “Right Wing” and help redeem the country from it’s enemies…
Jedothek says
If this story does not frighten you, there is something the matter with you.
FYI says
I’ll bet this won’t be mentioned on Spencer Watch….”Exposing JihadWatch’s Robert Spencer”
Imagine:that site is directed personally against Mr Spencer and others at JW and while I know that ‘imitation is the sincerest form of flattery”, how hard was it to come up with a less-obviously biased,intolerant,Lefty-islamic inspired name?
islamic apologists do the same with ex-muslim”apostates”:Target them with a creepy obsessiveness,ludicrously false arguments and then they’ll claim they won the “debates”.
What “debates”?
FYI says
In fact I was tempted to contribute to “What they say about Robert Spencer” when I saw all the usual Lefty /islamic scholars.I didn’t,so i’ll put it here instead..
“Robert Spencer is a mossad agent who once blew up a forest”
gravenimage says
That site seems to be defunct now–no new postings since 2015.
Angemon says
And even loonwatch hasn’t been updated since 2018. Well, their beliefs are mainstream – there’s no criticism of islam they don’t call “islamophobia”, or critic of islam they don’t label “hatemonger”.
gravenimage says
Grimly, this is true.
Stan Lore says
My progressive friends had no response when i shared this with them. That is their answer when confronted with the truth about “Islamophobia” and the monopoly that Muslims hold on terrorist acts committed globally. As if the more serious problem IS Islamophobia, something that is at best a hypothetical construct (fantasy).
Rarely says
This is a most frightening event. Without knowing the exact communications that were considered so offensive as to be considered a “hate crime” and/or “hate speech” I doubt that it is even in the same category as what emanates continually from the muslim community here (Canada) and likely in Britain too.
That being the case I sincerely hope that Joshua gets justice and that his story gets so wide spread that it helps bring down these apparently draconian laws.
Best wishes to Joshua and his family.
Joshua Le Trumpet says
The allegation is that a meme mocking a high profile Islamic individual was made. Yes, in Britain if you are a Muslim and well connected, you can even get memes criminalised. Thank you very much for your best wishes. This sort of thing should not be happening either to me or to anyone else, even those whom I vehemently disagree with. It is astounding that in the West we have followers of Islam who can parade their Jew hatred and support for groups like Hezbollah and Hamas in the streets of cities like London yet little or nothing is done about this sort of Islam derived hatred.
Rarely says
The phrase “islam derived hatred” well covers what non-muslims and ex-muslims are facing.
What a sorry state of affairs in Britain.
When a citizenry loses its ability to criticize the policies of powers that be and open discussion is stifled what’s left is a police state. When it is clearly bigotry, however, it must be curtailed. But it appears that what constitutes “bigotry” today is too often a one-way street. The inmates seem to be running the institution.
Hopefully sanity will return before things get much worse. Perhaps your case, and others like it, will help awaken the Brits to what they are losing.
Good luck in your case.
Mike says
Your statement “When it is clearly bigotry, however, it must be curtailed” is how freedom of speech is lost. Bigotry is is the eye of the beholder and the excuse of tyrants.
eduardo odraude says
The only speech that should be suppressed or punished by government is speech specifically calling for illegal violence, or shouting “fire” in a crowded theater, etc.
Apart from such exceptional cases, the remedy for bad speech is not censorship. The remedy for bad speech is more speech.
The government should not have the power to define what constitutes “bigotry” or “hate speech.” Calling something “hate speech” just becomes a pretext for the government to censor any view those in power don’t like.
gravenimage says
Agreed, Eduardo. Even bigotry–which I personally abhor–should be allowed if it is not inciting violence.
Terry Gain says
Hatred of Muslims is not bigotry. Look at what they are capable of. This case is about imposing Muslim values upon formerly free people. We have every right to hate adherents of a totalitarian conquest ideology. Submitting to theses conquerors is much more offensive than hating them.
gravenimage says
I mean I hate unfounded bigotry. I agree that hating Muslims oppressing, raping, and murdering people is not bigotry.
gravenimage says
That you can be arrested for merely mocking a high-profile Muslim is terrifying.
Fred says
How could one “pervert justice” in th he UK any more than it a,ready is?
Kepha says
The same sort of evil will be here in the USofA before too long.
eduardo odraude says
I wonder. We have the First and Second Amendments. I think that might make things a little more hopeful here.
Terry Gain says
The previous POTUS, who is a obviously a Muslim, threatened the world that “ the future must not belong to those who slander (tell the truth about) the prophet of Islam”.
GreekEmpress says
+1
When you think of Antifa, and the suppression of free speech on college campuses, Facebook, and Twitter, I think it’s already here.
Terence says
Vote out the lib.lab.con
OREN WYSOCKI says
Hate speech and hate crime laws are perversions of justice as they are practiced right now, mere props to justify leftist-islamist tyranny. But doesn’t demonizing speech against individuals and real minorities or even majorities like white people exist? If I owned A news channel, and screamed Ivanka Trump was A demon worshiper 24/7 would that not endanger her in the society we realistically have? I support free speech pertaining to racial inequality and grievances for all races, which is the source of the twisting of laws and words, and is the driver for censorship. My assessment for our society is also that it is better to just say support absolute free speech, because it is obvious that both our leaders and the left are willing to send people to prison for speech that they don’t like, and willing to bend any law they enforce to make that happen.
I am also not convinced about hate crime laws. As A Jew, I am well aware of the experience of A substantial percentage of the population either despising Jews enough to commit violence, or close to it, which is akin to A perpetual intimidation often. I think homosexuality is unhealthy, should be dissuaded, but I am not fond of them being beaten up by large numbers of people. In normal times, homos probable make up between 2-5% of the population, so what do you do if A large percentage of the majority has feelings of extreme hostility towards A minority making up A small amount of the population? In our society violence among the young is basically legal, and among the adults it is nearly legal. So, if you decide you are going to protect an identity group, is it not appropriate to make an example of someone, by punishing them severely for violence so that the majorities actions are checked? Does that not fit the bill? I am not talking about going after every white person who says the N word to any black guy who insults him, threatens him and then attempts to beat him for being white and proud. Most humans say the most insulting things they can think of before they are ready for violence. There is nothing unreasonable about that. The media simply has the power to make it as if some options don’t exist, but they cant stop angry people from insulting black people when they are faced with life threatening violence. If you are genuinely attempting to protect minority groups, of all sorts, how can you protect their freedoms if the majority is un-dissuaded by soft laws pertaining to fist fights against grown men? We also know that the cops will not let A person shoot people dead who attack him for saying unpopular things. There orders appear to be managers of the mob. In G-d I trust.
To bad about Britain. It sounds very tyrannical according to every article I read, now A days. I think there is A point where free speech is pointless, its like letting yourself get arrested in the hopes that someone would care, which they won’t, because they wont even hear about it. The answer to government violence is violence, not speech. I have no idea why you would sacrifice yourself for Brittan, they have never talked about Jewish inequality, they have never accepted your people, your citizenship has always been A farce, over thousands of years the overwhelming majority of british have been willing to allow any horrible thing to happen to Jews over to stand up for them or even to support them with popular opinion which would have solved the issue in the first place. Would you fly to Saudi arabia to sacrifice yourself for free speech for the arab muslim people? Why does having A bigger minority of friends of the Jews, between brits and the muslims, justify sacrificing yourself and endangering your family for A foreign peoples freedoms which they are not willing to fight for themselves? They didn’t fight for you in WW2, they distanced the Jews from the war effort, so that the british and americans would not take the side of the germans. While 6 million of your people perished, they censored the situation in their newspapers. They had vast spy networks, they knew that millions of people being moved to A new location but never showing up anywhere for years meant that they had been disappeared, and they could easily find out the location of camps with tens of thousands of people, since camps with millions would be cities that were impossible to hide, just imagine how many food delivery trucks and drivers there would be.
Familiarity doesn’t make sense, poverty is an argument, but if your not to poor, I think its like Stockholm, you are used to being abused so you accept it as A part of life. Censorship is A big part of it as well, since this reply is far more honest than anything I have read in the british media, and I haven’t even made the argument for why race relations between Jews and white gentiles are critically flawed, and living together should be avoided with extreme motivation to avoid the harsh consequences upon yourself, your social life, and harsh consequences on your kids and family. A kid choosing not to be religious shouldn’t be A death sentence.
Move to Israel, make your shared ethnic background be A primary reason for your security and freedoms in your community, faith in G-d is very good as well. In G-d I trust.
Edmund says
It looks like another normal day in Britanistan. Police is storming house without a search warrant in a ridiculous case. Crime of free speech …
No Muzzies Here says
Since the UK allowed Muslim rape grooming groups to thrive, and threw Tommy Robinson in prison, the obvious conclusion is that the UK is openly embracing Islam and warmly welcoming its new overlords.
Angemon says
Imagine my surprise!!!!
And I’d like to welcome “Fahrenheit 211”, although I’m saddened for what he had to go through 🙁
rob says
The UK has become a plainly fascist state.
Linda Rivera says
When I saw the title of the article, all I could think was, Nazi Germany. Nazi Germany. After I kept staring at the headline, I realized it was the UK. Is it too late for the nation of my birth where I was raised?
For innocent words; a meme, London’s Pakistani Muslim Mayor Khan’s police smash down this innocent man’s door. And terrify the Jewish man’s children and wife. It instantly brought to my mind how Muslim leaders worked closely with Hitler. How Hitler had extremely barbaric Muslim Divisions who hunted down Jews and Christians and slaughtered them.
gravenimage says
Grimly true.
Peter WF says
Beautifully written and expressed. One of the few articles that I have read start to finish word for word.
Forwarding the link to to friends.
Joshua Le Trumpet says
Thank you so much for your kind words and compliments. It’s not an article that I wanted to write but one I felt I had to write. BTW a colleague who looked after the CCTV footage elsewhere that shows the police’s behavior and the door being smashed in can be found at the link below.
https://www.fahrenheit211.net/2019/11/07/loose-borders-cost-lives/
Joshua Le Trumpet says
My apologies: I put the wrong link up and I cannot see any ‘edit’ button. The correct link for the CCTV of the arrest is https://www.fahrenheit211.net/2019/11/07/cctv-footage-of-the-arrest-of-fahrenheit211-by-the-jokestapo-and-the-blasphemy-police/
gravenimage says
Your being arrested in the first place is of course absurd, but the overkill in the numbers of the mob who came to arrest you is grotesque, as well. This looks like it was one notch down from sending in the SWAT team. Why this show of force for a non-violent person? I can only assume that this this was just intended to cause fear.
Again, even more ludicrous given that the British police are understaffed to handle Jihad and surveillance for Jihadists.
My grandfather was a police superintendent in England, long before this insanity.
Ernest W Burnhope says
I am absolutely gobsmacked! I don’t even know where to start or go! This in my imagination just doesn’t happen in my old country, and yet there is the evidence. I just can’t grasp that this can happen! I’m sorry, I’m just so confused. You have my support in anything you think that an individual such as my self can do.
Bella says
This hell will be in Canada soon if Trudeau isn’t thrown out. There is no justice if islam becomes the ruler.
Harry Spitz says
If a country has “Hate Speech” laws, it does not have Free Speech.
If a country does not have Free Speech, then it is not a free country.
Steven Dawson says
Britain has been back sliding since WWII, & I being eternally grateful for my family’s decision to leave for America at the turn of the last century, having lived my life, free to speak my mind ! !
gravenimage says
UK: Jewish conservative’s door broken down, he is handcuffed and jailed on suspicion of “Islamophobia”
…………………..
This is just sickening crushing of freedom of speech.
This is all the worse because the police in the UK don’t have enough personnel to protect Britons against Jihad. That the goons sent to arrest this man include a Muslim shipped in for just this make it all the worse, as well.
Terry Gain says
The police are facilitating the spread of Islam. This is a case in point. The conquest is being accomplished without much need to use Jihad.
gravenimage says
Grimly true in this case, Terry.
Getting the ‘filthy Infidels’ to do their dirty work–along with the aid of Muslims who have infiltrated security and politics.
And they will continue with violent Jihad, as well, just to keep the Kuffar terrified.
sheliak says
So, muslim politicians now control certain sectors of law enforcement within the UK for use against the legacy population. The hand writing is truly on the wall.
Mark Swan says
In the above article, are the words-
“a member of any extreme party or political grouping”
By today’s standards this could mean anyone at all.
Yet the most extreme group known, so far, is Islam.
This partnering by the left has opened a wide path for Islam.
Leaving absolutely no scrutiny, no accountability, and no
way to discuss Islam’s intent openly.
This very detrimental ideology, Islam, is being legitimized by this.
gravenimage says
Grimly spot on, Mark.
Wellington says
And still the Queen has not risked all and spoken out against the loss of freedom in her country. Shame on her and all of the adults of the Royal Family. Elizabeth inherited a free nation when she ascended the throne in 1952. She will die leaving her nation no longer free, doing essentially nothing to prevent this enormous tragedy. This should be her legacy.
gravenimage says
Grimly agree, Wellington. And how much worse will thing be if the openly Islamophilic Charles ascends to the throne?
Mark Swan says
Yes Wellington,
I agree with your very sad assessment.
Infidel says
Wellington
That’s why I’ve long argued that we stop looking at the Ummah Kaliphate as a model for the rest of us. I don’t want the Guardian or the BBC tutoring our Leftists on what they should think, nor do I want our Right taking lessons from the likes of Piers Morgan or Majid Nawaz. We should just leave them to their own devices and ignore them, and do our own things. Last thing we need is for our Left to embrace the idea of gender fluidity as they have done. Last thing we need is our Right to desist from offending Islam, as Nigel Farage has done.
Yeah, they once had a huge empire. So did a lot of other nations – the Arabs, the Mongols, the Russians, the Turks, the Spaniards… We don’t take our cue from the Mongols on how we should live either, and they did a much better job in keeping Islam out of their country (even if some of their derivative empires, like the Ilkhanate and the Chagatai Khanate Islamized)
On the royal family, I normally don’t give a tupence on what goes on there, to put it in their terms. But had I been a subject of ‘her majesty’s government’, I’d have rooted for the House of Windsor to be replaced by a new dynasty, if a republic is unimaginable. Aside from the queen, everybody in that family today is woke, and now, the main thing coming out in that ABC leak about Jeffrey Epstein is that Buckingham Palace intimidated ABC into suppressing that story that had Prince Andrew as high a profile as Bill Clinton involved in the Epstein abuse of underaged girls, so that they didn’t get denied access to Will & Kate, (and presumably later, Harry & Megan). There is absolutely nothing useful that they do, and it’s a disgrace that Canada, Australia and New Zealand haven’t snapped all links w/ them. While Islam worships Mohammed, you’d have the Church of England headed by Charles once the queen passes. Really inspiring /sarc
Lydia Church says
Chilling to read!
Lydia Church says
That link in the article.
David, Thailand says
Most Brits have blinded themselves to the stunningly obvious, and remain blissfully ignorant to what’s happening in their country, while those that can see are terrified of speaking out.
Fact is, for what facts are worth in a mad world going proudly madder, you people have become too ‘civilised’ to survive modern times.
gravenimage says
There is nothing civilized about this tyranny, David.
J D S p says
Graven I wonder if we are ready for this to be happening in America? By READY I mean are we really ready to stand up against such happenings….I’m afraid we have been too complacent with what’s happening so far…It seems to me that the only people speaking out are the ones on J W..sure hope I’m wrong.
gravenimage says
I hope we are, J D S–but I think it is important that we don’t become complacent thinking it could not happen here, or that if it did that all Americans would automatically stand up to it.
We are already seeing some pretty disturbing things in the schools and local government here.
RichardL says
This is why I refuse to set foot in the UK. The UK was the first country to become a dictatorship. Germany will follow fast.
Christopher Watson says
A very interesting story; and very sad. It is sad because what is happening in Britain is the result of weak government for 40 years. All immigrants are welcomed in. No-one has to speak English. None of them has to integrate and from this story, now, they make the rules. Most English people don’t know that this happens. It rarely appears in the media; certainly not the BBC. Those who are aware just shrug their shoulders and say “what can we do?” But to regard it as a future event is a fallacy. It HAS happened. We are living in an Islamic Britain. They are at every level of government and are influencing government policy. From the Barcelona agreement to ‘hate’ crimes we are dancing to their music. (sarc)
janwog says
That’s normal that Muslim thugs disguised in police persecute non Muslims in Britanistan. UK having abandoned the religion which has been its foundation has nor energy to challenge political Islam and the other face of the same coin of wickedness. American unite to Trump and defeat first Leftism which is rotting your society.
toomanyhobbies says
it use to be God, Queen, and Country; what ever happened to that???
Michael Alakija says
So this is what our beloved Mayor of London organises when he is not posing for celebrity photos while refusing to answer any direct questions of relevance to his duties as Mayor. Why am I not surprised?
toomanyhobbies says
“Islamophobia” is a certifiable fallacy; a phobia is an Irrational fear. The fear of Islam which has been murdering its way through history for the last 1400 years (numbers as high as 270 million) is neither irrational or unrealistic but just common sense!
Val Lee says
I wonder how many persons were arrested today for Christianphobia or athiestphobia? Jesus Christ is our only hope—Romans 10:9-10 from the Bible: “That if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth, confession is made unto salvation.” To learn of God’s personal love for you, please click here: https://vallee7.wordpress.com/category/paradise/
Val Lee says
And I should add how many were arrested today for antisemistism? Of course, they would have to arrest all Muslims if they enforced this.
Norger says
Truly disturbing that in 2019 someone can be treated this way in a supposedly progressive western country for the thought crime of “Islamophobia.” Jesus. This is really Orwellian scary stuff.
Trick_or_Treat says
You have to actually be charged with something first before you are either remanded in custody without bail or released on bail? If you have not been charged with anything they cannot impose bail on you, they have to release you. And, unless they apply to a magistrate, judge or court for a special waiver, they cannot hold you for more than 48 hrs in custody without charge, before they are obliged to release you without charge. I’m going by Australian law, and our law is pretty well based on British law. I’m pretty sure you cannot have bail or conditions imposed upon you if you have not actually been charged with anything.
UNCLE VLADDI says
Making “hate!” into a crime, simply makes it “illegal” to hate crimes and the criminals who commit them.
Which I’m sure was the original intention of those criminal lawyers in government who crafted them!
Richard: says
Well said!
UNCLE VLADDI says
Thanks!
Patriotliz says
Wherever ISLAM expands, the Free World shrinks.
It’s a Darwinian law…survival of the fittest, i.e., the most aggressive, belligerent, Fascistic.
We stopped it before militarily during WWII but can’t stop now because they have already infiltrated Western society, subverted it and, taken legal control.
They simply remove the Freedom Fighter’s greatest weapon against tyranny…namely Free Speech.
Nachum says
“increasingly misused”
They shouldn’t exist, period. People should have a right to hate, and of course to communicate.
Antiislamicman says
There is no such thing as islamophobia it’s a made up term by the Muslim Brotherhood. It is not a criminal offence to hate an evil ideology that wants to kill you