“A judge has expressed her ‘abhorrence’ at foster parents caring for children taken from an abusive Muslim household, because they Westernised and ate bacon. Judge Angela Finnerty said she “shared the abhorrence of the [biological] parents” over the fact the children were served bacon and eggs for breakfast, according to The Sun, which further reports that “one of the children also ate a hot dog at a fair.”
Double take: Finnerty “shared the abhorrence of the [biological] parents“ over the children eating bacon, eggs and hot dogs, and it was an abusive household at that.
A question to ponder: is this judge as deeply involved with the upbringing of Christian children in foster homes? Is she making sure, for example, that they attend church services weekly (or more)? We know the answer to that question.
“Judge Finnerty took a stand on behalf of Islam at her court in York,” thus opting to fulfill a role as Sharia judge. She is unfit to be a judge in any Western country, unless she applies equal concern about the religiosity of each child in her case load.
Increasingly, the Western legal system is metamorphosing into a Sharia system, with little resistance.
It has become increasingly common for non-Muslims in the United Kingdom to be essentially forced to eat halal meat, slaughtered in accordance with Islamic religious principles which many non-Muslims object to for ethnical [sic] reasons.
“Judge Attacks Foster Parents After Muslim Children Westernised and Ate Bacon,” by Jack Montgomery, Breitbart, November 11, 2019:
A judge has expressed her “abhorrence” at foster parents caring for children taken from an abusive Muslim household, because they Westernised and ate bacon.
Judge Angela Finnerty said she “shared the abhorrence of the [biological] parents” over the fact the children were served bacon and eggs for breakfast, according to The Sun, which further reports that “One of the children also ate a hot dog at a fair.”
The biological father of the children accused the council of “playing God” by failing to ensure they continued to follow Islam, somewhat counter-intuitively.
“One matter that sits terribly with me is that they have been feeding my children bacon. You yourself told [the foster parents] not to feed my children pork products,” he complained indignantly to the judge.
The children were taken into care in the first place as a result of concerns about the father violently abusing the children’s mother.
It was alleged that the foster parents told the children “If we make bacon, you eat it,” but they objected that the children had simply Westernised and, according to The Sun, “turned their backs on religion”.
Judge Finnerty took a stand on behalf of Islam at her court in York, however, declaring that she “shared the abhorrence of the [biological] parents” that their children had eaten bacon sandwiches, and suggesting that they may have Westernised due to “their cultural and religious needs not having been sufficiently nurtured in foster care”.
It has become increasingly common for non-Muslims in the United Kingdom to be essentially forced to eat halal meat, slaughtered in accordance with Islamic religious principles which many non-Muslims object to for ethnical [sic] reasons…..
RealMan says
Oh no. They actually took good care of those kids? And themselves not being muslims they didn’t follow muslim ways of life? How dare you!
St. Ferdinand III says
Leftard Judge is from Leeds/Bradford circuit. Moslemified.
Most judges are you know are 90% leftard.
https://www.middletemple.org.uk/bencher-persons-view?cid=34762
Moslems – about 20% of the pop in Bradford and rising quickly.
Leeds – about 10%
Both cities are circa 500-750 K in size
Imams in both have declare that they will be Moslem by 2040.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jun/19/bradford-one-city-two-cultures-communities-lead-parallel-lives
Little Horton, the area of south-west Bradford where the Dawood family lived, is 57% British Asian, overwhelmingly of Pakistani origin, compared with just under 20% in Bradford as a whole, according to the 2011 census. In Little Horton’s 19,996-strong local population, 35% do not have English as their main language and 12% of those are unable to speak English well or at all.
FYI says
Leftardism should be recognized as a serious illness..along with conversion to islam syndrome.
There is the Left and then there is the Far Left{“Full Leftard”}
The Left are the best buddies of political islam:they both know how to lie and dissemble and have no integrity or moral compass.
terry sullivan says
judge should be sacked
R Russell says
It must be a couple of years at least when children in London were taken from a ‘Christian’ home and placed with a Muslim family where they were couldn’t speak English. It caused a bit of a furore at the time.
In this case if a family decides to take a child from a Muslim home then they must not deliberately do things, including feeding them bacon which are against their beliefs. This doesn’t mean the foster parents be forced into worshipping Allah with the children.
The social services surely have guidelines for these cases. If not it’s about time they did.
CogitoErgoSum says
What right according to Islam did anyone have to take those children from their biological parents anyway? Under Islam the husband has the right to beat his wife if he even so much as suspects she is being disobedient to him. The state is not following the Koran in the first place by forbidding the father from doing that, is it not?
P. Douglas says
That “so called judge” is obviously UNFIT! And must be removed from the court!
Michael Copeland says
Does the judge have “abhorrence” for halal meat being served – with no choice – to thousands of schoolchildren despite their cultural and religious needs?
spiro says
Well that’s different it only offends Christians (if their even awake to what halal meat is ) and that’s ok
This country is finished
without a doubt
Savvy Kafir says
It ain’t over ’til it’s over. The UK still has two possible ways out of this mess. Plan A: Anne Marie Waters’ For Britain party comes to power. Plan B: Violent revolution & civil war.
Christina says
Thats got to happen !!°
Savvy Kafir says
Good question, Michael. But I think we all know the answer. That would never occur to this ignorant, PC fool of a judge.
somehistory says
Guess the ‘judge’ had her scarf on while she was feeling “abhorrence” at the thought of a bacon sandwich and a hot dog.
Suppose that the parents were meth addicts and the children watched their parents indulge. Or the father liked to watch child porn and had his own children sit in and watch along.
The responsible foster parents would not do those things and any one with a brain can see why. islam ***teaches*** and ***demands**** that the male beat up on his wife…for no reason other than she is deemed to be deficient of mind and he might like his coffee a little hotter than she can make it due to her mental deficiencies. The kids are exposed to this and taught this and the little sons learn early that they are to beat females…their mothers, their sisters, and any other female they can get with their filthy ‘hand.’
This fool ‘judge’ sees this as an okay teaching…as it is a large part of their ‘religion and culture.’ So the kids must be ‘taught’ this by their foster parents…as opposed to learning the moral way, the right way, etc. for people to behave toward each other.
Thinking the solution to these kids in Syria whose families are terrorists could be raised by normal people outside the moslim “community,” may be just a pipe dream. If foster parents who are not moslim are given moslim children to raise, they should be allowed to raise them without having to adopt islam.
James Lincoln says
somehistory,
Indeed, if foster parents ever bring children up according to the tenants of Islam, they are committing CHILD ABUSE.
Keya says
So here we see that eating bacon is more abhorrent than dad abusing mom! Typical Mudslime mindset!
gravenimage says
That’s *exactly* what I was thinking, Keya. Eating a hot dog–abhorrent; abusing your wife–completely Halal. *Ugh*.
Infidel says
Christine, thanks for the picture – yummmm!!! Happen to be having breakfast of a homemade pancetta pizza while reading this – not exactly the same, but close
Westman says
Ahh, sad, scarred for life. It could get worse, like, um, breaking a fingernail.
Ms Judge, give those children back immediately to their passive father who has shown such high regard for women to fervently direct the children’s halal lives; and most certainly the daughter so she may learn her proper Islamic role as a servant and property of a man. This poor man has been humiliated and needs to beat the daughter and wife to recover his self-respect and community honor.
“..the children had simply Westernised..” That was the real problem and the poor father couldn’t beat them into submission, so Judge Finnerty did it for him. Coming soon to the BBC, “Judge Angela’s Islamic Court”. Don’t miss it, it’s halal!
Rarely says
It is not appropriate to feed foster children pork products when those children are muslim or Jewish. That doesn’t mean that the foster parents have to follow the whole array of dietary restrictions of the child’s religion but certain concessions, such as not serving pork products, are not unreasonable. Of course family services should have a set of guidelines and, if you can’t abide by them, don’t foster parent.
CogitoErgoSum says
How were Islamic guidelines followed by taking the children away from their father? The Koran allows a man to beat his wife is she is disobedient to him. She is his “tilth” or property do with as he sees fit. Wives are supposed to obey their husbands in all things. See Koran 4:34 and also 2:223. This man’s rights according to the Koran were not being respected in the first place. What about that?
Rarely says
Non sequitur.
CogitoErgoSum says
Can’t come up with an answer, eh?
Rarely says
What’s your question?
Rarely says
Let me anticipate you.
It’s not a matter of bowing down to islam.
If you were to invite muslim or Jewish friends over for dinner you would likely give serious consideration to the menu. Why would it be any different if you were taking in muslim or Jewish kids under the fostering program?
CogitoErgoSum says
I’d tell them what was on the menu and they could decide whether to come or not.
Rarely says
Exactly. But these kids don’t get the choice of whether to come or not AND the foster parents are being paid. They can be expected to make minor alterations to their meals to accommodate those who can’t eat pork much the same as if the kids had a peanut butter allergy.
It’s not a matter of submitting to islam.
gravenimage says
Rarely, this is *not* a non sequitor. If this court completely followed Islamic guidelines, then abuse–even murder–of women and children would not be a crime at all.
Infidel says
thebigW
The first is my only reason for interacting w/ Muslims. Also one more – my sister has some Muslim friends, so I just put on the appearances to avoid embarrassing her
Yohanan says
If there is a fault it seems to be with the Canadian court and CPS child protection social services system.
If religious dietary laws are important to the biological family – that should be noted and maintained even though the child’s own (biological) only family has _temporarily_ lost custody of their child (reportedly over abuse whether the accusation is correct or not).
So the question is — Was the non-Muslim foster family informed by the system?
In today’s diverse Canada diversity (espcially in big cities like Toronto) , there should be Muslim families willing to earn the foster family incentives and take children in? So dear judge and court social worker, place the child there first.
If foster family was not informed and child could not inform them, then — “when in Rome do as the Romans do”. To survive, eat what is served and available.
BTW in most countries foster care is employment which is an added income (for friends of the system social service police bureaucracy) and for some even a way to make living… not exactly the voluntary foster angel image.
Same goes with Jewish children removed from their biological families from their one only native home, the wishes of the biological parents and family (even of accused by system) are still to be met if at all possible as self-evident duty of state and as matter of dignity, respect, child’s connection and right. However that’s mostly a non-issue as courts do not place Jewish children outside the community where possible and also because many Jews do not observe kashrut the dietary laws which prohibit eating pork.
Yohanan says
ok the article refers to York, UK and not Canada. Abhorrent is a word to reserve for real abuse if foster family is abusive. Still criticism of foster family deserved as they were informed by judge of the dietary rule before receiving child. Their reimbursement by the state for foster work is a contract. They violated the rules of work contract. This is not closed adoption, but state’s holding of child by foster family and not in a state sponsored institution. The biological parents remain the natural guardians, while the foster folks are employed caretakers. As for other children’s religious issues that is irrelevant. This time our usually brilliant CHRISTINE DOUGLASS-WILLIAMS missed the mark.
gravenimage says
So Yohanan, you would have preferred that the children go to Muslim families who teach them that their father was being perfectly Islamic to beat their wife?
somehistory says
CogitoErgoSum
I understand your point. To the moslim mind, the State has no “right” or “authority” to decide anything for his family, be it his wife or his children, or his slave if he has one, and whether or not he beats them, marries off his young daughters, etc.
So, in the molsim’s view, the State was not following the correct way when they intervened to take the children out of the house. According to islam the male is allowed to beat his wife and she must submit. He is to see that his sons learn to beat their wives and treat their mothers and sisters with disrespect.
The State is, therefore, not following the doctrine of islam when they take the kids away and place them in the care of others, esp the care and control of those who do not bow to islam.
How can the State then object when the foster parents do not follow the doctrine of islam and feed the kids whatever the family is eating? The “culture” and “religious practices” have already been violated.
Foster mom, cooking up bacon and eggs for her family and foster moslim kid comes into the kitchen and says, “What is that wonderful smell?”
Foster dad, “That’s bacon and eggs.”
Foster kid, “What’s bacon?” and “Can I have some?”
“No.” the kid will see the foster parents as cruel and tell the judge they aren’t allowed to eat.
The State expects the foster mom to cook for her family some of what the foster kid would eat at home with his moslim parents, so the poor foster kid never gets to smell bacon cooking or to have a chance to eat it, and the kids of the foster mom have to lose out on what they would normally eat, as do the foster parents.
If this judge doesn’t want the kids treated as the other children in the house are treated, she shouldn’t expect moslim kids to be placed in the care of those who do not bow to islam and live according to the filthy book.
Not giving them food the family is eating, is rather like Cinderella who was mistreated by her stepmother. That is how the kids see it. And foster parents are given authority over the kids. The abusive parent is not given authority over the foster parents. Not supposed to be, anyway.
gravenimage says
Spot on, Somehistory.
CogitoErgoSum says
Yep.
CogitoErgoSum says
If the State would have respected the man’s right to beat his wife as allowed by the Koran, the kids would not have been removed from the home and the foster parents would not have fed them bacon. Why is the judge outraged about one violation of the Koran and not the other — that led to the whole mess? If the judge wants the man’s religious beliefs to be respected why just stop at bacon? He should point the judge to Koran 4:34 and let her chew on that.
AleX says
@Rarely
1. The child belongs to the secular state (and NOT a madrassa)
2. Pork is a decent part of a perfectly balanced diet for humans
Yohanan says
1. Disagree. Foster care is not closed adoption. The biological parents remain the natural guardians. The Foster “parents” (usually better than institutional holding but not always) are employed by the state as caretakers in their home setting. No child belongs to the state unless great misfortune to grow up in a totalitarian state. You’re right also not to a madrassa or school. Unless courts says otherwise the unit of belonging is called biological family.
2. No argument. Well cooked pork is nutritious and safe; lean pork is better than chicken.
But the issue is not about pork diet but over food customs and religious beliefs. The article states that the court did inform the foster care of that stipulation before they received the children, so a violation of their work contract.
As for non-rational religious beliefs, as long as they are not harmful, then freedom of belief should be respected by state — including by the informed foster parents who are temporary caretakers appointed, employed and supervised by state…
AleX says
Children shouldn’t be subject to religious dietary restrictions. This non-issue is yet another attempt to challenge the ‘laws of the land’, as they clearly differ from the principles of Shari’ah.
Infidel says
If that’s the case, don’t ask non-Muslims to be foster parents to kids of abusive Muslim parents. The whole idea of doing this is taking kids under their wing and integrating them into the family, not being a restaurant or daycare/nightcare service to them
gravenimage says
I’m vegetarian–I think if my kids had to enter foster care I would care more about their being treated well than about whether their specific diet was followed.
James Arthur Waber says
they should have just fed them turkey bacon and the hot dog’s probably beef
Rarely says
Of course they could have done that.
Case solved but the foster parents should have been made aware in case they simply didn’t know.
No Muzzies Here says
What should be happening instead. “A judge has praised foster parents caring for children taken from an abusive Muslim household, because they Westernised and taught the children not to hate, not to rape, not to murder, and not to turn to anger as the first reaction to any slight, no matter how small. Also, they are to be commended for helping break the stranglehold that Muslim superstition has on the children, by giving them bacon to eat.”
Chances of that happening, zero.
Rarely says
I agree 100% but a ban on eating pork products is hardly a superstition. I don’t eat pork because it is too fatty and greasy and because pigs are, well, pigs.
CogitoErgoSum says
Aha!
Rarely says
What “aha”? I don’t eat raw fish either — the Japanese call it “sushi”. I call it “bait”. You can also put chocolate covered ants and frog’s legs on my “I don’t eat that” list.
It’s not because of superstition or religion.
CogitoErgoSum says
I’ve never had frog’s legs with ants sprinkled on them but put chocolate on top of the combo and I’ll give it a try. ?
Yohanan says
Freedom of religion allows superstitious beliefs with weak to no rational basis today. For Jews the prohibition of pork follows Leviticus 11:7; Deuteronomy 14:8 and long history.
As for too greasy — back or belly? Google has on pork fat nutrition >”Lean pork, when trimmed of visible fat, is nutrient-dense, satisfying, and good for you. Some pork parts like that of tenderloin, loin chops and sirloin roast are made from the lean cuts and are more healthy than chicken.”
BTW here in Israel pork raising is allowed in certain areas. Pork products are available in most localities, especially in some Russian supermarkets.
Yohanan says
Can’t argue with religious Jews for whom the pork ban is a personal religious commandment. One can guess at possible reasons 3000 +/- 500 years ago, when people lived much closer to their livestock and hygiene and food hazards were less understood. I don’t know about the Islamic pork ban. Possible source was copying from Torah. Or maybe similar hot climate?…A search for source of custom might be interesting but it would also be irrelevant to believer. Again as long as not harmful, respect for religious freedom. Today there are a lot of food choices.
Angemon says
Oh, the humanity!
Ole Pederson says
Question: would the judge have
if they had been children of Christian parents in the custody of Muslim parents, if these Muslim parents educated the children in their Muslim fashion?
gravenimage says
Here’s what happened to an English child, Ole:
“‘They don’t speak English’: Five-year-old Christian girl in UK placed in foster care with niqab-wearing Muslims”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/08/they-dont-speak-english-five-year-old-christian-girl-in-uk-placed-in-foster-care-with-niqab-wearing-muslims
“And more recently the girl told her that ‘Christmas and Easter are stupid’ and that ‘European women are stupid and alcoholic’…the child was ‘very distressed’ and claimed the foster carer had removed her Christian cross and encouraged her to learn Arabic.”
Yohanan says
Thanks for the link to the Aug 2017 Jihad Watch post on the 2017 report of unbelievable inappropriate abusive fostering practice of the tower Hamlets, London, UK service. The JW comments are closed 2+ years back, so can’t put a forward link to this current post, this example of UK court response in the opposite situation.
In the Mail expose the UK government inspector (Ofsted, Office for Standards in Education, Children’s Services and Skills) is quoted noting the (Moslem borough’s) “entrenched culture of non-compliance”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4828546/Christian-girl-5-forced-care-devout-Muslims.html
>>In April this year, an Ofsted inspection at Tower Hamlets council found ‘widespread and serious failures in the services provided to children who need help and protection’.
The council’s children’s service was rated as inadequate and found to have an ‘entrenched culture of non-compliance with basic social work standards’.
The Department for Education said: ‘When placing a child in a foster home, the local authority must ensure that the placement is the most appropriate way to support [the child’s] welfare. A child’s background is an important consideration in this decision.’<
Carol the 1st says
I could accept not offering the pork but would the next demand be that it not be prepared in the same kitchen as the chicken or sit alongside it on the buffet table? Just don’t ask little old kafir me to take the kids to a nearby religious armory.
One amusing and likely true statement in the news article is this:
“It was alleged that the foster parents told the children “If we make bacon, you eat it,” but they objected that the children had simply Westernised and, according to The Sun, “turned their backs on religion”.
Now there you have it! A *very* hopeful clue and signal that these children are acting naturally and may still be salvageable from their parents ‘religious’ narcissism.
When considering the forced melding of Islam and the West an image comes to mind of non-muslims placed in a bag with muslim cats followed by the bag being tied and tossed in a lake (I think I got this image from an historical Islamic event involving harem girls). Attempting such a mix is some kind of crazy and has a snowball’s chance in Hell of producing anything good (unless it be the destruction of Islam). IMO teaching inconsistent, incoherent Islamic attitudes is child abuse itself and leads to hardened, fractured, narcissistic personalities and the attendant behaviors.
I just happened upon a video by Sam Vaknin (a Jewish writer who is a Narcissist himself) and find it amazingly informative (and spot on with things I’ve witnessed myself recently). Title is “UNMASKING NARCISSISTS, PSYCHOPATHS AND THEIR ABUSE WITH RUTH JACOBS” (she’s the interviewer and is a Borderline Personality). Anyone interested in psychological speculations should definitely watch this video.
gravenimage says
Yes–the Muslim demands will not end.
gravenimage says
UK: Judge attacks “abhorrent” foster parents for serving bacon to children taken from “abusive Muslim household”
Double take: Finnerty “shared the abhorrence of the [biological] parents“ over the children eating bacon, eggs and hot dogs, and it was an abusive household at that.
……………….
So this judge *agrees with the abusive parents*–what madness is this? Most people in the UK eat pork–there is nothing odd about this.
somehistory says
Kids have different needs when it comes to food…and many other things. A newborn needs 50 calories per pound. per day (Imagine if an adult ate that much! A 200 pound man would be eating 10,000 calories a day. And growing.)
There was a very recent case in Florida, U.S, where the parents were feeding their four children only raw vegetables. The youngest, 15 months old, weighed only 17 pounds…when he died of malnutrition. His older brother and sister, were not much better off when the authorities were called in to rescue them. Rotting teeth was plainly visible to those taking control of the children.
The oldest child was not the daughter of the man in the family, but went to stay with her father every couple of months. She was in much better condition.
Perhaps the two adults were fine with eating only raw veggies. Perhaps they were not suffering as were their children. if parents truly love their kids, they will want what is best for them. And if those sitting on a judicial bench don’t have any better sense than the parents of these kids in Florida, the children will be the ones who suffer.
Carol the 1st says
+1 and the whole society and the whole world.
Giacomo Latta says
And what if the biological father was muslim? And what if the egg-supplying mother was muslim? And what if the foetus carrying mother was muslim? And what if the nursing mother was muslim? Or all Christian or atheist?
First, who gives a rat’s ass. Religion is not found on top of someone’s skin; it is found between the ears. Second, who gives a rat’s ass about religion when in democracies there is supposed a separation of state and religion. Religions should only be allowed if the are not anti-democratic and even then it is only to tell ghost stories to each other in a closed building.
Carol the 1st says
Spirituality (not necessarily ‘religion’) should be for the purpose of more or less privately cultivating what we fisnd good within ourselves and then sharing any spiritual bounty with others (who are free to listen or change the channel as they please). In an ideal world we’ll remain humble (spiritual vanity they say is the worst – we know the usual suspects) and give Caesar (the outer world) its proper due as a compass to humbly check in with here and there.
Here’s to the children:
Pink Floyd – Hey You (With Lyrics)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymgYEQgSqLI