Deradicalization programs have been implemented elsewhere, notably in Indonesia and Saudi Arabia. Let’s look at how they fared. From the Jihad Watch archives:
Gitmo prisoner reveals: Saudi “deradicalization program” is really a jihad training program
11 ex-Gitmo prisoners flee the Saudi “rehabilitation program” and join up with terrorist groups
Jaw-dropper: 25 former Gitmo detainees “return to militancy” despite Saudi rehab program!
Flight 253 jihadist wasn’t cured by Saudi anti-jihad art therapy
Former Guantanamo detainee now top al-Qaeda ideologue — “He was transferred to Saudi Arabia in 2006 where he was placed in a national rehabilitation project.”
Indonesian government admits that its jihadist rehab program is a failure
Malaysia: Muslim cleric active in deradicalization program promotes hatred of non-Muslims
France’s only jihadi “deradicalization” center is closing — it was voluntary, and it was empty
“London Bridge killer penned letter in jail asking for deradicalisation course to be a ‘good British citizen,'” ITV News, November 30, 2019:
The London Bridge killer penned a letter from his jail cell asking to take part in a deradicalisation course to become “a good British citizen”, ITV News can reveal.
Usman Khan asked for help from his lawyer in October 2012 after his conviction for plotting to blow up the London Stock Exchange as a member of an al Qaida-inspired group.
The 28-year-old was released on licence last year after serving half of his 16-year sentence but was able to embark on a deadly stabbing spree in central London on Friday, killing a man and a woman and injuring three others.
But during his prison sentence, he wrote a letter from his HMP Belmarsh prison cell, claiming he was “immature” when he committed the offence and now wanted to “learn Islam and its teachings” through a “deradicalidation [sic] course”.
In the letter obtained by ITV News, Khan wrote: “I would like to do such a course so I can prove to the authorities, my family and soicity (sic) in general that I don’t carry the views I had before my arrest and also I can prove that at the time I was immature, and now I am much more mature and want to live my life as a good Muslim and also a good citizen of Britain.”
The attacker was attending a prisoner rehabilitation event organised by the University of Cambridge, where he “threatened to blow up” Fishmongers’ Hall, where the conference was taking place, at around 2pm….
mortimer says
The only deradicalization program that will effectively stop the jihadic ideation is to CONVINCE Muslims through the study of the latest TEXTUAL and ARCHEOLOGICAL studies that the Koran is of HUMAN ORIGIN.
Once Muslims see that the Koran is of HUMAN ORIGIN, they can leave Islam with confidence … they often do so immediately.
Bezelel says
mortimer, That does explain why islam and it’s apologists resist any meaningful examination of the koran, it’s history, the character of it’s followers. They insist on acceptance like pelosi’s “we have to pass it to see what’s in it” deal. The Truth would set them Free, but they fear they would be insulting their god to even question it. A tangled web indeed. Meantime the evil keeps happening.
gravenimage says
Mortimer–with all respect–the implication that Jihadists desperately want to leave Islam but only lack the confidence to dos seems pretty implausible.
Antiislamicman says
The only way to leave Islam is to come to christ.
What happened London Bridge is the final process of a Muslims Islamic education. Sickness.
This is more hard evidence that Islam cannot be right.
Muslims need to Islam to save themselves. Jihad is madness.
PRCS says
Would converting to Judaism be O.K.?
FYI says
Actually both Judaism and Christianity have a similar commandment system.
The Exodus 20{‘ten’} are the same.
The Two Chief Commandments of God are found in BOTH religions{1st Deut 5 4-9,2nd Lev 19:18},these are defined as “the whole Law of Moses and the teachings of the prophets depend on these two chief laws”
Matthew 22 v 40
“Do for others what you want them to do for you;this is the meaning of the Law of Moses and the teachings of the prophets”
Matthew 7 v 12
Thus we see the GOLDEN RULE is in Judaism and Christianity.
But it isn’t found anywhere in islam or in the koran.
Both of these Chief Commandments are missing in islam:there is no Love of God shown via obeying God’s Commandments{since the koran teaches it is OK to violate them} and there is no “Love thy neighbor” in islam{in fact it is impossible since the koran classifies humanity into superior muslims and inferior infidels}
So converting to Judaism would be far better than converting to islam;religiously observant Jews,like authentic and sincere Christians[and unlike muslims}understand the concept of a Commandment.
PRCS says
I think you missed the point.
Antiislamicman says
Nov 30, 2019 at 11:26 am
The only way to leave Islam is to come to christ.
gravenimage says
Actually, Muslims have left Islam for both other faiths and none. I am glad to see any Muslims leave Islam.
somehistory says
The people in charge of keeping citizens safe, should know by now that one cannot be a ‘good citizen’ and a “good moslim,” at the same time.
He wanted to “learn islam and its teachings” These are things he already have proven that he knew. Working for al queda, taking part in terrorism for islam…he had already exercised his knowledge of islam and its teachings.
He just wanted another chance to murder innocent people. And he was given that opportunity. He grabbed it and used it and now those who didn’t learn from other attacks have some responsibility for the deaths and injuries this moslim creep caused.
mortimer says
Agree, but dislike the way you phrase it. Muslims are indoctrinated and lethargic about examining those doctrines critically. Once they do, it starts to fall apart. Over 60% of the Koran concerns the rant that Allah hates kafirs and wants Muslims to fight them and subdue them. No one can read the Koran and fail to perceive that. Muslims have mostly not read the Koran and do not want to read it.
Because the divide between reality and Islam is so great, many Muslims today live in a severe cognitive dissonance. They are taught to accept what the mullahs tell them, but they do not see the reality of it. Muslims seldom study for themselves (as a generality), so most Muslims do not even know what being ‘a good Muslim’ is.
It is fair to say that the main motive of any practicing Muslim to enter politics is to impose Sharia law upon people who don’t want it, thus overturning democracy.
Islam is theocratic and is not overly concerned about an individual’s personal conscience.
somehistory says
You may “dislike” the way I phrase things, but you can’t possibly “dislike” it as much as I “dislike”…loathe, despise, hate, islam and the excuses made for what moslims do.
The Bible clearly says that God made man to be able to “think” and “reason” things out. He did not make man to be so totally dependent on others that he couldn’t, or wouldn’t, be able to make decisions for his own behavior.
According to moslims, there are over a billion of them on earth. They can’t all be so disfunctional of mind that they can’t see how evil islam is. Many do and leave that plague on mankind…and write about it, and draw cartoons about it, and give speeches about it, etc.
You seem to “dislike” most of what I write. Well, that is certainly your choice, but I don’t happen to “like” much of what you have to say either. You make way too many excuses for moslims. They have to bear the responsibility for their actions. Blaming someone else just doesn’t make the grade. It seems most, if not all, of the practicing, believing, moslims are psychopaths, and psychopaths always look for others to blame, never accepting responsibility for their wrongs.
gravenimage says
Mortimer, this murderous Jihadist was not very lethargic.
Kerry Wade says
Yes I read his letter online. Of course I wasn’t convinced. He should have been executed along with all the other convicted terrorists. And I’d add to the list their close family and friends. It would save lives, funding and manpower. Islam has to be eradicated from our world. We must grasp the nettle and destroy Islam root and branch, no mercy for any of them whatsoever. It is the ONLY answer.
mortimer says
Robert Spencer’s article points out that Muslims do not participate in deradicalization programs … at least not voluntarily, since they are seen as traitors. They must be forcibly deprogrammed, but that would violate our human rights codes.
The only way around that is for governments to set up secret think tanks to bring the deprogramming to Muslims generally through internet sites. Muslims generally do not read and buy few books or magazines. They get most of their information orally, so videos about Islamic archeology and Koranic textual studies must become more available. This is a very SERIOUS MATTER and a DIFFICULT and very DANGEROUS matter that shielded experts must learn to undertake. It is urgent. It should no longer be left to the private sector to deprogram Muslims and take all the risks involved and at their own expense.
IT IS OF STRATEGIC URGENCY FOR THE PEACE OF THE WORLD. Government undercover agencies must deprogram Muslims.
Politicians have to realize that ‘MUSLIMS’ do not create ISLAM, but that ISLAM is INDEPENDENT from what individual Muslims think or believe.
The DOCTRINE and POLITICAL IDEOLOGY of Islam is what must be debunked.
gravenimage says
How would you deprogram Muslims secretly?
Jay says
He wanted to live his life as a “good Muslim”. Well, he did.
PRCS says
Walid Phares (consistently wrong about Islam) repeated his idiotic assertions about ‘jihadi ideology’ (Jihad is a component of Islam) and ‘radicalization’.
Jayell says
“The London Bridge killer penned a letter from his jail cell asking to take part in a deradicalisation course to become “a good British citizen”…………..lying toad.
R Russell says
Just supposing he did express a desire to join a deradicalization course, then I would have thought he would have contacted the police to tell them he was tempted to kill the kill the kufr. That would have been an honourable thing for this disciple of Anjem Choudary to do.
But he didn’t, so I don’t belief he genuinely wanted to be deradicalized. I think he just wanted to try to place the responsibility for his deeds on the police instead.
Walter Sieruk says
It’s very obvious that this jihadist /Muslim by asking to undertake a “ deradicalization program “ is just playing the game of “I want to change and be a good citizen ,so help me become one” Therefore after he fakes being a change man ,if he does revive a “deradicaliaztion course,” he then hopes to be released so may join his jihadist brothers in their bloody and murderous jihad against Westerners and Western civilization.
Let’s not be naive and think that “ deradicaization course’ would impress and thus cause a jihad-minded Islamic terrorism to no amount of counseling will straighten them out.
As the philosopher, Emmanuel Kant wrote “Out of the crooked timber of humanity no straight thing can be made.” Likewise, the Ancient Greek playwright, Aristophanes, had also written “Even the wisest of the wise can never make a crab walk straight.”
As for that Muslim mayor of London said “Those terrorist attacks on London were performed by men [the terrorists] who were trying to justly their action by the religion I belong to …their ideology is a perversion [ of Islam ] and has no place in Islam” The Muslin mayor, Sadiq Khan, of the capital city of England further said that he is “Outraged at those who try to hide their evil with Islam.” He could be in a genuine mental state of denial about the violent and deadly of many of the parts of Islam or by contrast he might know and is attempting to cover up the truth about the violent essence of Islam.
Likewise, the prime minster of England, Theresa May, when had made public statements about those violent and vicious terrorist attacks on London Bridge and nearby Borough Market. She had declared that heinous religious terror attack as the outcome of “an ideology that is a perversion of Islam,” That statement shows that she didn’t do her homework. For those jihadist Muslims were putting in the practice the instruction of real, actual, non-watered down hard core Islam. As the Quran in, for example, Surah 9:123 instructs “O you who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you, and let them find harshness in you…” Running over non-Muslims with a van and then stabbing them is a very effective way of showing people who are not Muslims harshness. Also Surah 9:111 teaches “The believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, they kill and are killed…” The whole foundation for the ideology of Islamic terrorism is the theology of the Quran. As seen in those two, just sited, verses from the Quran and other verses well, such as, Surah 4:89. 5:33 47:4. Teresa May also denounced “Extremism.” This type of “Extremism” is based on the Quran.
ROD says
I think Walter that Theresa May and all other politically correct Western leaders in respect to Islam i find it hard to believe they do not know the truth but are trying to pull the wool over the publics eyes but for what reason ?It seems as though the establishment is in on it somehow like Islam is being forced onto our society on purpose .It seems as if its either to bring our western society down or to get the public to hate Islamic countries enough for the public not to care if we nuked the Middle East.Its got me stumped but there is overwhelming evidence Islam is a threat to us all.
Michael Copeland says
“I would like to do such a course … a deradicalidation [sic] course” – Usman Khan
“If a lie is the only way to achieve a good result [for Islam] it is permitted” – Al Ghazali
Kesselman says
Either is the naïvité colossal or we see the willing bad intention of the authorities. For one thing, I doubt the Grand Vizir Khan of Londonistan can navigate in the daily routines of the city office. That is one point. On the other hand, I don’t think the so-called mayor is interested in doing his job well. His Moslem colleague in Malmoe, Sweden closes both eyes when it comes to Moslem terrorists.
Giacomo Latta says
Too many dinosaur-deniers on this thread for me. The universe created us; we did not create the universe. What some imaginative ghost-fearing types have dreamed up is that some dude with a long beard decided to reveal himself to one effed-up individual or another instead of, for example, speak to all of us at half-time during a World Cup or Superbowl final. All science-rejecting followers of any religion are preprogrammed to commit violence, act like sheep, pardon the unpardonable or whatever their particular specialty happens to be.
gravenimage says
I am no fan of science denial myself, but to say that everyone who does so is equally likely to commit violence is obvious claptrap. Islam *preaches* violence.
Angemon says
From what I can gather (and most news articles I read either omit his nationality or simply call him a British man), he had dual citizenship, the other being Pakistani. If that’s indeed the case, he should have had his British citizenship revoked and kicked back to Pakistan as soon as he left jail…
ROD says
Untill protection from prosecution is removed for politicians and the bureaucracy nothing will ever change.Those responsible for changing the IPP laws in sentencing should be charged with negligent homicide-PPs were scrapped months after Khan was jailed. The replacement system meant offenders like him would be inside for at least two-thirds of their sentence before being eligible for release on licence.
The Court of Appeal could not impose that term on Khan because offenders can only receive a sentence that was in place at the time of the crime.
Meanwhile, Khan had also been asking to join a deradicalisation programme – including sending a letter in October 2012 asking for the Home Office to provide someone to work with him.
His solicitor, Vajahat Sharif, has told the BBC that Khan repeatedly asked him for help in finding someone.
Mr Sharif said he wanted a very specific jihadist ideology expert to work with his client because he feared Khan’s hate was so deeply-rooted.https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50618324
gravenimage says
We need to educate people about the threat of Islam, not prosecute those who are clueless. Besides, who would do the prosecuting? Lots of people know little to nothing about the threat of Islam.
jca reid says
When it comes to Islam ALL Muslims are LIARS!! It is simply “Taqiyya”. Following Mohammed’s express Order of when it comes to Islam LIE to ALL non-Muslims to advance Islam.
gravenimage says
UK: London Bridge jihad murderer was released from prison after asking for “deradicalization” program
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We see how well *that* worked.