Tell Mama, the Muslim group devoted to sounding the alarm about the unspeakable conditions in which Muslims must live in the U.K. – though for some reason they keep making great efforts to enter and settle in, that terrible country – is once again angry with Lord Pearson of Rannoch, who is one of the few sane voices in the House of Lords. For Lord Pearson dares to worry aloud about the ideology of Islam, and the effect of ever-increasing numbers of Muslims in the U.K. on its indigenous non-Muslim population.
Tell Mama’s rant can be found here.
The enduring racist myth that Muslim birth rates are soon to replace ‘native’ populations reappeared on television yesterday, after Lord Pearson, formerly of UKIP, spread the falsehood that the Muslim birthrate ‘in this country is going up ten times faster than ours’.
Lord Pearson obviously misspoke when he said that the “Muslim birthrate…is going up ten times faster than ours [the English].” What he was referring to was data from the government’s ONS (Office of National Statistics), not about birthrates, but about population increases. He had mentioned the correct version — which he surely meant to say on SkyNews — in a 2017 speech: “The latest figures I have from the ONS show that the Muslim population in England rose 10 times faster between 2001 and 2016 than did the rest of the population, by 107% compared to 11%.” That is perfectly true, and Tell Mama certainly knew what he must have meant – it even refers to that 2017 speech — but chose not to explain Lord Pearson’s obvious error in substituting “birthrate” for “population.”
But what about birthrates? For that is basis for Lord Pearson’s evident anxiety. They are going down for the non-Muslim English, to their lowest point in 80 years. As of 2019, English birth rates are, at 1.7 per woman, far below the replacement level of 2.1. That means the non-Muslim population is now dramatically decreasing. At the same time, the Muslim birthrate, at 2.9, is far above the replacement level. By 2050, at current rates of fertility, the Muslim population will have tripled, to 14.1 million, while the non-Muslim population will have steadily gone down, to what numbers are still unclear, but Christianity, all the studies conclude, will be a minority religion in 2050.
Adam Boulton, the presenter of All Out Politics on Sky News, was correct to identify this as ‘us and them’ politics.
It’s also a form of politics unbecoming and undeserving of such a large media platform.
Lord Pearson’s central claim first appeared during a debate in the House of Lords on December 7, 2017, which referenced [sic] a “Muslim takeover of our society, at least in our major Muslim conurbations” and includes the misuse of census data.
Why is it either “unbecoming” or “undeserving” of “such a large media platform” as SkyNews to allow discussion of a matter as serious as the demographic future of the United Kingdom? No doubt Tell Mama wants censorship of the subject to be enforced; it doesn’t want to scare people with too much reality. If Tell Mama had its druthers, the subject of Muslim birthrates, and consequent population increases, would never come up, not anywhere. But if it must be mentioned, Tell Mama wants to keep that information from reaching a large audience, as it did, thanks to Lord Pearson, on SkyNews. Mustn’t let people learn too much about Muslim demographics; it might set them thinking, and then worrying, and that would never do.
And is Lord Pearson wrong? Hasn’t there been a “Muslim takeover,” just as Lord Pearson claimed, “in [the] major Muslim conurbations,” that is, in many neighborhoods in Bradford, Blackburn Birmingham, Manchester, Leicester, and — in such places as Bethnal Green and Bow, East Ham, West Ham, Polar and Limehouse — in London itself? By takeover, he meant that in certain neighborhoods with large Muslim populations, some even having Muslim majorities, have become No-Go Areas, where non-Muslims fear to visit, and where even firemen require a police escort, while the police themselves now enter, for their own safety, only in groups.
While it is true that the Muslim population has more than doubled in a decade, the census question on religion and non-belief is of self-identification, Lord Pearson, for example, ignores the continued growth of atheism and non-belief, declining Christian belief, and how just over half of those (55 per cent) surveyed by the National Centre for Social Research believe in a God figure more broadly.
What does the growth of atheism and non-belief have to do with Lord Pearson’s point that Muslim fertility rates (2.9) far exceed those of non-Muslims (1.7)? Nothing. It’s a diversionary tactic, intended to confuse.
The demographics argument shifts to Muslim children outnumbering non-Muslims, which is true in some areas, like Washwood Heath in Birmingham (86 per cent) but untrue in [places] like Bristol, for example,[where] there were three times as many Christian children (aged 0-17) as Muslim, per the 2011 census data.
Yes, we all know that in some places in the U.K. Muslim children outnumber non-Muslim children, and in other places it is the reverse. Who would ever have thought otherwise? But again, this obvious fact has nothing to do with national data about comparative (non-Muslim and Muslim) fertility rates, which is what Tell Mama continuously attempts to direct our attention away from.
Such an argument echoes that of the Daily Mail in 2017, which ran the alarmist headline: “The changing face of Britain: A child in Birmingham is now more likely to be a Muslim than Christian.”
Buried further in the article, however, was the admission that: “The figures show that Christianity is still the dominant religion in every local authority area in England and Wales, even in the most culturally diverse towns and cities.”
The Daily Mail’s 2017 headline was not “alarmist,” but factual: Muslim women are producing children at a much higher rate than non-Muslim women – an average of 2.9 as against 1.7 for non-Muslims. In some places – the Daily Mail offered the example of Birmingham — more Muslim than Christian children are being born. The fact that Christianity is “still the dominant religion” does nothing to undermine the essential point: there are ever fewer Christians, and ever more Muslims, in the U.K., because of the wide gap in fertility rates, and eventually, should current trends remain the same, Islam will – of course – become the dominant religion. Because many British people born into Christianity are now leaving it for atheism, that means that Christian numbers are dwindling even faster than previously predicted. Islam may become the dominant religion in the U.K. by 2050. Is Lord Pearson not entitled to raise the matter?
Again, there is a fundamental and crucial difference between birth rates and self-identifying with a religious belief like Islam. Conflation is a dangerous gambit.
I am not sure what is meant here. Does Tell Mama mean something like this: fewer Christians self-identify as Christians, so their numbers are undercounted, while almost all Muslims still identify as Muslims, even if they have secretly become disaffected from the faith, which makes their numbers seem larger than they really are? I don’t see why we should lose sight of Lord Pearson’s main point, the one Tell Mama keeps trying to confuse us about, and that we have to keep repeating after every attempt by Tell Mama to confuse the issue. To wit, for the third or fourth time: (and I will unapologetically repeat it again later on) birth rates for Muslim women in the U.K are much higher than replacement level, while birth rates for non-Muslims have fallen below replacement level; this inexorably means ever greater numbers of Muslims and ever fewer numbers of non-Muslims. That is all Lord Pearson meant.
A sane society would pay attention to Lord Pearson’s data and discuss what it will inexorably lead to, and not allow itself to be bullied into silence by the likes of Tell Mama. But on the subject of Islam, Great Britain is no longer a sane society. It even keeps out those whose unforgivable sin is to analyze, and warn about, the ideology of Islam, including the centrality of Jihad. Robert Spencer can’t set foot in the country, while Muslim clerics who are deemed too “extreme” even by some Muslim countries, are ushered right in. For example, the cleric Syed Muzaffar Shah Qadri, though banned in his native Pakistan, has been allowed to preach in mosques all over the U.K.
Westman says
It is too soon to determine the birthrates for Muslims who only arrived since 2015. The newly arrived Muslim women have a fertility range of about 25 years and most of the “refugees” were single men who will bring in more Muslim women to the UK. The bulge in Muslim birthrates is still ahead though, even now, the most common name for a male born in the UK is some form of Muhammad.
We have all seen Muslim Imams in the Al-Aqsa mosque, and others, brag openly that they will take over Europe by reproduction. Nobody needs to Tell Mamma – she knows and is playing whack-a-mole on anyone who raises the issue.
Hugh Fitzgerald says
Demographic jihad is no secret. Both Algerian leader and President Erdogan have praised the effort to conquer Europe through “the wombs of our women.”
One day, millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory,” said Algerian leader Houari Boumediene at the United Nation in 1974.
Turkish leader Erdogan also stated: “I am calling out to my citizens, by brothers and sisters in Europe! Have not just three but five children !The place in which you are living and working is now your homeland and new motherland. Open more businesses, enroll your children in better schools, make your family live in better neighborhoods, drive the best cars, live in the most beautiful houses,” he said. “That’s because you are the future of Europe. It will be the best answer to the vulgarism, antagonism, and injustice made against you.”
Westman says
“..vulgarism, antagonism, and injustice made against you.” Which is false, the problem is a religion that allows aggression and violence to spread Islam.
If you want to hear some vulgarity, learn Arabic swear words and listen carefully at any demonstration mob of Muslims. If they have been in the West for a while you’ll hear them calling unbeliever women by intensely vulgar insults and theatening violence by themselves and their Allah.
The only reason there is not more violence against unbelievers, as approved by the Quran, is fear of punishment by the civil law of the nation. One should feel sorry for any Muslim living in a no-go area that gets in trouble with the more aggressive elements of the Muslim community. The UK justice system will never hear about it.
gravenimage says
True, Mr. Fitzgerald.
Peter McLoughlin says
Perhaps even more significant is that there are Muslim academics at UK universities who have said the number of Muslims may have been higher than 5% in 2011.
“There is therefore a possibility that the number of Muslims is notably higher than the 5%, especially when it is recognised that 7% of the population abstained from stating their religious belief”.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/dr-leon-moosavi/why-has-the-number-of-mus_b_2279610.html
Joshua Le Trumpet says
Dear Mr Fitzgerald. It’s good to see you taking on the dodgy grievance mongers of Tell Mama. This organiisation is quite frankly getting worse. They used to just specialise in questionable figures concerning ‘Islamophobia’ but have now moved on to actively calling for censorship of people like Lord Pearson of Rannoch. The sane should indeed listen to Lord Pearson but too often in Britain we are led by those who would prefer to listen to the insanity and the calls for censorship that come from groups like Tell Mama
gravenimage says
+1
FYI says
Tell Mama?That’s it.that’s the name they use?
How about..?
The Wailers
The islamic bawlers
Throw Mama from the Train
Michael Copeland says
“Adam Boulton … was correct to identify this as ‘us and them’ politics.”
In case the reader does not understand, “us and them” politics is here derided as something undesirable.
Really, Tell MAMA?
Remember that muslims are, in accordance with Koran 48:29……
merciful to each other, but ruthless to non-muslims
That is part of islamic law. Muslims are instructed to regard all kafirs, non-muslims, with contempt and hatred, as filthy, the vilest of creatures, as apes and pigs, all from the Koran, and part of Islamic law:
“between us and you enmity and hatred forever” – Koran 60:4
That is a clear example of ‘us and them’ politics. After all, as Ayatollah Khomeini explained:
“Islam is politics or it is nothing”.
Angemon says
And that’s how “fact-checking” sites obscure the truth. For example, did Brian Stelter spend 10 minutes discussing Trump typos? No, that’s false – his segment was 4 and a half minutes long.
gravenimage says
UK: Tell Mama Doesn’t Like Lord Pearson (Part 1)
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Good for Lord Pearson for telling the truth.
jca reid says
On average European women are having 2-3kids. Muslim women in Europe are averaging out at just over 7. For all of this “migration” into Europe & across the “soon not to be Free World”, they really have NO legal right. Why don’t their friends the Muslim countries take them in? After all, there’s plenty of space in the former Soviet Muslim Republics.
Beneath the Veil of Consciousness says
I recently watched a video out of Great Britain where they discussed the furtherance of the dismantling of free speech. The guest described these “Islamophobia Laws” popping up in various towns and cities throughout Great Britain as nothing more than backdoor Islamic blasphemy laws.
David says
Small correction:The Londonistan district is called Poplar(popular with muslims).
It should not be called fertility rate, but birthrate. White people choose not to have as many children as they used to. Muslim women have no say in reproduction, and are made pregnant as often as possible. Children are supported by the benefit system, for the first two; but one man: four wives = 8 children. So, Child Benefit should be 2 children per father. A high % of muslims are unemployed. They don’t need to work. We pay them ‘jizya’.
Lord Pearson basically stands alone with very little support. Being in the House of Lords protects him to some extent from being slurred with the dreaded word Islamophobia. I prefer the term: Islamiloathia, which is more accurate. Thank God Islam is not a race!