We posted a small bit of this video on November 8; here is more. And here is the astonishing story, one incident of the death of the freedom of speech in Britain, and its transformation into the shabby, third-rate police state it is today.
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Antiislamicmansays
There is no such thing as islamophobia
Dudesays
What we need is a list we can carry (.pdf?) that quotes translations and verses of every instance of hate speech found in the entirety of the desert scriptures. Call it a Get Out of Jail Free File.
That will put the real culprits behind bars. It will disinfect the books and hopefully future generations.
mortimersays
Your point is not well taken, because there is a difference between a rational and irrational dislike of something. The word ‘phobia’ is not being used in a strict sense in this propaganda word.
However, if every aversion is a ‘phobia’, then no issue may ever be discussed, because nothing being perfect, every issue may be criticized … Islam as well.
Even people who have the slightest knowledge of Islam may in fact base their dislike of Islam upon a very slim bit of rational evidence. To be ‘phobia’ would require physical symptoms of fear.
The word ‘phobia’ in this propaganda term is used merely as a smear to slander those who criticize Islam by suggesting they are insane.
Islamo-criticism is a form of political science that shows a person is rational and open to evidence.
There are people out there who are extremely rabid about politics and the police are not spying on them. Such irrational, political fanatics are in every political party, whether fringe or mainstream.
Why do the police not snoop on them as well? Some of them are so hate-filled, they would even countenance taking illegal measures to overthrow an election, for instance.
Fanatics all over. Get busy, snoopers.
somehistorysays
His point is ‘well-taken.’ From you: “there is a difference between a rational and irrational dislike of something. ”
A true “phobia” is not just a “dislike of something.” A true phobia is a ****fear**** of something to the point that it paralyzes the person who suffers the phobia.
The fear some have of being outdoors, keeps the sufferer from ever leaving home…no matter how much he/she would like to or would need to. The sufferer may wish to step outside, to visit a friend or loved one, or go shopping, etc., but the ***fear****…not “dislike”…holds them inside.
the oic saw the effect that the word homophobia had on the populations of the West, ( people were afraid of being called that if they said they dislike, and/or the Bible condemns, saying it’s wrong, etc. about homosexuality), and jumped on that with all of their filthy feet, coining the islam o phobia word.
moslims sling their word every time someone expresses the Truth about islam.
You also wrote: “The word ‘phobia’ in this propaganda term is used merely as a smear to slander those who criticize Islam by suggesting they are insane.”
moslims…and their supporters…use the fake phobia to stop everyone from telling the Truth. They are ***Not*** “suggesting they (those who criticize islam) are insane,”… moslims and their supporters are outright saying they are bigots and racists, even tho islam is not a race, but is supported by all races.
Just as homosexuals and their supporters use the homophobia word, calling anyone who criticizes, dislikes, quotes the Bible, etc., to shut them up, they don’t say or imply that these are “insane,” but that they are bigots.
Having a true phobia doesn’t make a person “insane,” any more than someone who just doesn’t like snakes, spiders, cats, etc. is insane.
Rational people are in fear that islam is going to take over the whole earth and force everyone to convert, pay money or die. That is not a phobia, and it doesn’t make one insane. But one doesn’t have to be in “fear” that this will happen to not want ti to.
Again, there is no such thing as a phobia of islam. Any fear of what they are trying to do is reasonable and understandable. And those who realize what is their goal, are for from insane. Neither or they bigots or racists for having their knowledge, and fear, of islam.
James Lincolnsays
somehistory says,
1. “A true “phobia” is not just a “dislike of something.” A true phobia is a ****fear**** of something to the point that it paralyzes the person who suffers the phobia.”
2. “moslims…and their supporters…use the fake phobia to stop everyone from telling the Truth. They are ***Not*** “suggesting they (those who criticize islam) are insane…”
3. “… moslims and their supporters are outright saying they (who criticize islam) are bigots and racists…”
4. “there is no such thing as a phobia of islam. Any fear of what they are trying to do is reasonable and understandable.”
You are correct on all four points.
You have expertly unpacked the “Islamophobia” nonsense, my compliments…
somehistorysays
Thank you, James Lincoln.
I value your medical opinions.
Carolynesays
Mortimer, that “For instance” says it all and describes the circus taking place in Washington very, very well.
gravenimagesays
Good exchange, Mortimer, Somehistory, and James.
Lillibetsays
Well said. We can only draw out own conclusions as to why the law – which claims to be impartial- is biased and that there are no-go areas which CANNOT be criticised. It merely means that free-speech is not permitted in GB and that some sections of society are above the law.
toomanyhobbiessays
feel free go copy this; Islamophobia is a certifiable fallacy; a phobia is an Irrational fear; The fear of Islam which has been murdering its way through history for the last 1400 years (with numbers as high as 270 million dead) is neither irrational or unrealistic fear but just common sense!
Phil Copsonsays
the sarcastic words; “Danke Merkel” are appended to many accounts of events in Europe: Whose name should be appended to this event ? Quote below from a recent British prime Minister……
“The absence is glaring in the boardrooms of FTSE 250, in the chambers of the Houses of Parliament, on football managers’ benches, on High Court judges’ benches and in our fighter jets, our naval ships and our armed battalions around the world. And I’m clear that this has to change……And yes, one day I want to hear that title “Prime Minister”, followed by a British-Asian name.”
Now we see what happens when muslims are given positions within the police and as government advisers – a respected Jewish commentator has his front-door smashed down and is dragged out in hand-cuffs by stupid dhimmi policemen – their heads stuffed full of rubbish about “islamophobia” by their Left-wing bosses – under the command of a scruffy muslim dressed more like a drug-dealer than a policeman.
“Danke Cameron….”
Jayellsays
And yes, one day I want to hear that title “Prime Minister”, followed by a British-Asian name” says Cameron….and it looks not unlikely that there might be a PM named Javed in No.10 before too much longer; if not a female one called Patel, since persons of these names have been parachuted into key Government positions recently. As to what happens then? Well, look at what’s happened to London.
Carolynesays
More likely the PM will have the name “Mohammed” or a variation thereof.
gravenimagesays
Yes–scary stuff. Both Sajid Javid and Sadiq Khan are gunning for Number 10 Downing Street.
Carol the 1stsays
Tommy Robinson was arrested within weeks of Javid’s appointment as Home Secretary. In front of the crowd of those protesting his arrest didn’t May flank herself with both Javid and Khan? Sure seemed like a glaring “like it or lump it” statement to the “legacy population”.
gravenimagesays
True, Carol.
Carol the 1stsays
A truthseeker by name of Charlie Robinson has a website called theoctopusofglobalcontrol.com
He compares globalism to the extremely clever and devious OCTOPUS e.g. an octopus actually has THREE HEARTS. In similar mode Globalism might be said to have THREE CITY STATES: the city of LONDON is the BANKING heart; WASHINGTON D.C. is the MILITARY heart; and the VATICAN is the SPIRITUAL heart.
Coinckydink?
Infidelsays
‘Her Majesty’s government’ might as well rename ‘Scotland Yard’ to ‘Ministry for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice’. Just to make it obvious to the pleebs!
Angemonsays
and its transformation into the shabby, third-rate police state it is today.
A selective police state – stabbing someone on broad daylight? Add it to the ever increasing pile of “unsolved stabbings”. Post “hate speech”? Expect the police to knock down your door and arrest you. And even there, there’s no consistency, “hate speech” is deemed “hate speech” based on whom the “victims” are and not on the speech itself.
jOHNEICEsays
folks,
wake up, the ‘islamophobia’ term was specifically created by the muslim brotherhood group ‘The international institute of islamic thought, abdur rahman muhammad, for the sole
PURPOSE OF BEATING DOWN CRITICS, DESIGNED AS A WEAPON TO ADVANCE A TOTALITARIAN CAUSE BY STIGMATIZING CRITICS AND SILENCING THEM. THIS PLAN WAS AN OUTGROWTH OF THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD DECEPTIVE “GENERAL STRATEGIC GOAL FOR NORTH AMERICA”. READ IT, IT IS ON THE INTERNET.
‘their lying asses are getting by with murder of free societies and people who support them.” any country who puts with this crap is DOOMED.
FIGHT BACK, THEY ARE LIARS
Gorksays
There was a time when the British press were known for publishing just about anything they could get their hands on. It was often scandalous, sometimes risque, and they really didn’t give a damn who was offended.
No more. Today, if you write something even remotely blasphemous against Islam, you will suffer the consequences. It amazes me to this day that a country could go so fast from one extreme to the other.
Niemollersays
The land of Orwell is now an Orwellian land.
gravenimagesays
Grimly true.
Lydia Churchsays
The wizard of Orwell strikes again…
and it won’t be the last time.
Here’s that quote again:
“The lamps are going out all over Europe, and we won’t see them lit again in our lifetime.”
Sir Edward Grey
Applies to so many situations where the dying of the light exists, and now more than ever, on the eve of the end of the world. The good news? There is a happy ending, and it doesn’t rest with our doings.
Gorksays
What would you call such behavior if these people were not wearing uniforms?
I am very curious as to how this operation was started, funded, and justified. I look forward to reading the details as they come out in court.
Carol the 1stsays
Not quite a lynch mob but very nearly a swarm.
FYIsays
Take note that this can also be done to you if you are an atheist or an ex-muslim “apostate”:you too can be accused of “islamophobia”.
This is Tyranny:This is using islam to silence dissent…no religion should be above criticism…
somehistorysays
These “officers”…and any others who are not moslim…should ask themselves how they would like it if a moslim creep came to their door, followed by men with guns and sticks and ram rods to force down the door so the moslim creep could enter and nose around, making accusations.
Attempting numerous times to see inside as they waited, is creepy and shows such a lack of respect. They were showing how anxious they were to get in and haul away this man who had been saying things about islam, that the hideous moslim with his website set-up to compile fake hate crimes, didn’t like.
R Russellsays
I was totally confused by the previous video when we were told the police uniforms had come out green due to the quality of the CCTV. This puzzled me completely for it didn’t seem to interfere with the colour of the cars.
Now we have this extra CCTV where the police uniforms are still green except for one ‘man’ who is wearing blue trousers.
I hope they have a more convincing explanation when they are next asked why the police are dressed in green uniforms.
I have verified that these are UK police and all information provided by fahrenheit211.net has proven correct (I do IT forensics professionally),
The video since first being shared has had considerable work done by a post production professional to correct some of the colour inconsistencies caused by the cheap webcam.
If you are still not satisfied you’ll need to check with the police themselves.
gravenimagesays
Thank you, Marc.
Carolynesays
Green is the sacred color of Islam, forbidden to wear or use in any but Islamic activities. It appears to me that these men, and it cannot be convincingly argued to the contrary, are wearing green uniforms. This, as pointed out above, can be proven by one man clearly wearing blue trousers and the colors of the cars. I would say they are members of a new and secret branch of the UK police created exclusively for the purpose of persecuting British subjects who have a distasteful view of Islam and dare to utter it or write it.
Rufolinosays
Very interesting comment, Carolyne.
Carol the 1stsays
The young, bearded one showed up at around 5:04. He clearly takes charge and steps up to the door with determination at that point. The hood on his jacket is lined with the same green color as his pants and there’s some kind of green logo on the arm of the jacket also. Definitely looks like a muslim.
Carol the 1stsays
He’s the one bringing him out of the house and frisking him too during the last minute of the video while the uniformed cops stand off to the side.
PRCSsays
Islamophobia:
An IRRATIONAL fear of the ideology.
It is RATIONAL to fear those who act it out–as the actions of Muslims have made clear over the past 1400 years.
gravenimagesays
Video from UK: More security cam footage front and back of police raid on blogger for “Islamophobia”
…………………..
Just astonishingly insane–police surrounding this man’s house as though he were a dangerous criminal when his only “crime” was verbally mocking a Muslim supremacist.
That the police in Britain are too understaffed to protect the public against Jihad terrorism makes this all the more insane.
DICK Rsays
The police are now the enemy of the indigenous population of this country .
jca reidsays
Our brave “PC” Police. Picking on the soft targets. The guy did nothing wrong! Imagine raising concern about drug dealers & vandals in your area & the Police arrest you!!
PRCSsays
Well, truth be known:
It appears that the rules have (a) been changed and (b) he’s (allegedly) done something wrong.
Fred Haywardsays
Just wondering: how is this different from Saudi Arabia or Iran arresting bloggers?!? ?
gravenimagesays
Well, the victim probably won’t be tortured at this point–although that could change, too.
toomanyhobbiessays
I wonder If they would have raided them if they had been talking bad about any other religion….
jus wundrinsays
It appears that hitlers allies are winning the Battle of Britain.
gravenimagesays
Grimly true.
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Antiislamicman says
There is no such thing as islamophobia
Dude says
What we need is a list we can carry (.pdf?) that quotes translations and verses of every instance of hate speech found in the entirety of the desert scriptures. Call it a Get Out of Jail Free File.
That will put the real culprits behind bars. It will disinfect the books and hopefully future generations.
mortimer says
Your point is not well taken, because there is a difference between a rational and irrational dislike of something. The word ‘phobia’ is not being used in a strict sense in this propaganda word.
However, if every aversion is a ‘phobia’, then no issue may ever be discussed, because nothing being perfect, every issue may be criticized … Islam as well.
Even people who have the slightest knowledge of Islam may in fact base their dislike of Islam upon a very slim bit of rational evidence. To be ‘phobia’ would require physical symptoms of fear.
The word ‘phobia’ in this propaganda term is used merely as a smear to slander those who criticize Islam by suggesting they are insane.
Islamo-criticism is a form of political science that shows a person is rational and open to evidence.
There are people out there who are extremely rabid about politics and the police are not spying on them. Such irrational, political fanatics are in every political party, whether fringe or mainstream.
Why do the police not snoop on them as well? Some of them are so hate-filled, they would even countenance taking illegal measures to overthrow an election, for instance.
Fanatics all over. Get busy, snoopers.
somehistory says
His point is ‘well-taken.’ From you: “there is a difference between a rational and irrational dislike of something. ”
A true “phobia” is not just a “dislike of something.” A true phobia is a ****fear**** of something to the point that it paralyzes the person who suffers the phobia.
The fear some have of being outdoors, keeps the sufferer from ever leaving home…no matter how much he/she would like to or would need to. The sufferer may wish to step outside, to visit a friend or loved one, or go shopping, etc., but the ***fear****…not “dislike”…holds them inside.
the oic saw the effect that the word homophobia had on the populations of the West, ( people were afraid of being called that if they said they dislike, and/or the Bible condemns, saying it’s wrong, etc. about homosexuality), and jumped on that with all of their filthy feet, coining the islam o phobia word.
moslims sling their word every time someone expresses the Truth about islam.
You also wrote: “The word ‘phobia’ in this propaganda term is used merely as a smear to slander those who criticize Islam by suggesting they are insane.”
moslims…and their supporters…use the fake phobia to stop everyone from telling the Truth. They are ***Not*** “suggesting they (those who criticize islam) are insane,”… moslims and their supporters are outright saying they are bigots and racists, even tho islam is not a race, but is supported by all races.
Just as homosexuals and their supporters use the homophobia word, calling anyone who criticizes, dislikes, quotes the Bible, etc., to shut them up, they don’t say or imply that these are “insane,” but that they are bigots.
Having a true phobia doesn’t make a person “insane,” any more than someone who just doesn’t like snakes, spiders, cats, etc. is insane.
Rational people are in fear that islam is going to take over the whole earth and force everyone to convert, pay money or die. That is not a phobia, and it doesn’t make one insane. But one doesn’t have to be in “fear” that this will happen to not want ti to.
Again, there is no such thing as a phobia of islam. Any fear of what they are trying to do is reasonable and understandable. And those who realize what is their goal, are for from insane. Neither or they bigots or racists for having their knowledge, and fear, of islam.
James Lincoln says
somehistory says,
1. “A true “phobia” is not just a “dislike of something.” A true phobia is a ****fear**** of something to the point that it paralyzes the person who suffers the phobia.”
2. “moslims…and their supporters…use the fake phobia to stop everyone from telling the Truth. They are ***Not*** “suggesting they (those who criticize islam) are insane…”
3. “… moslims and their supporters are outright saying they (who criticize islam) are bigots and racists…”
4. “there is no such thing as a phobia of islam. Any fear of what they are trying to do is reasonable and understandable.”
You are correct on all four points.
You have expertly unpacked the “Islamophobia” nonsense, my compliments…
somehistory says
Thank you, James Lincoln.
I value your medical opinions.
Carolyne says
Mortimer, that “For instance” says it all and describes the circus taking place in Washington very, very well.
gravenimage says
Good exchange, Mortimer, Somehistory, and James.
Lillibet says
Well said. We can only draw out own conclusions as to why the law – which claims to be impartial- is biased and that there are no-go areas which CANNOT be criticised. It merely means that free-speech is not permitted in GB and that some sections of society are above the law.
toomanyhobbies says
feel free go copy this; Islamophobia is a certifiable fallacy; a phobia is an Irrational fear; The fear of Islam which has been murdering its way through history for the last 1400 years (with numbers as high as 270 million dead) is neither irrational or unrealistic fear but just common sense!
Phil Copson says
the sarcastic words; “Danke Merkel” are appended to many accounts of events in Europe: Whose name should be appended to this event ? Quote below from a recent British prime Minister……
“The absence is glaring in the boardrooms of FTSE 250, in the chambers of the Houses of Parliament, on football managers’ benches, on High Court judges’ benches and in our fighter jets, our naval ships and our armed battalions around the world. And I’m clear that this has to change……And yes, one day I want to hear that title “Prime Minister”, followed by a British-Asian name.”
Now we see what happens when muslims are given positions within the police and as government advisers – a respected Jewish commentator has his front-door smashed down and is dragged out in hand-cuffs by stupid dhimmi policemen – their heads stuffed full of rubbish about “islamophobia” by their Left-wing bosses – under the command of a scruffy muslim dressed more like a drug-dealer than a policeman.
“Danke Cameron….”
Jayell says
And yes, one day I want to hear that title “Prime Minister”, followed by a British-Asian name” says Cameron….and it looks not unlikely that there might be a PM named Javed in No.10 before too much longer; if not a female one called Patel, since persons of these names have been parachuted into key Government positions recently. As to what happens then? Well, look at what’s happened to London.
Carolyne says
More likely the PM will have the name “Mohammed” or a variation thereof.
gravenimage says
Yes–scary stuff. Both Sajid Javid and Sadiq Khan are gunning for Number 10 Downing Street.
Carol the 1st says
Tommy Robinson was arrested within weeks of Javid’s appointment as Home Secretary. In front of the crowd of those protesting his arrest didn’t May flank herself with both Javid and Khan? Sure seemed like a glaring “like it or lump it” statement to the “legacy population”.
gravenimage says
True, Carol.
Carol the 1st says
A truthseeker by name of Charlie Robinson has a website called theoctopusofglobalcontrol.com
He compares globalism to the extremely clever and devious OCTOPUS e.g. an octopus actually has THREE HEARTS. In similar mode Globalism might be said to have THREE CITY STATES: the city of LONDON is the BANKING heart; WASHINGTON D.C. is the MILITARY heart; and the VATICAN is the SPIRITUAL heart.
Coinckydink?
Infidel says
‘Her Majesty’s government’ might as well rename ‘Scotland Yard’ to ‘Ministry for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice’. Just to make it obvious to the pleebs!
Angemon says
A selective police state – stabbing someone on broad daylight? Add it to the ever increasing pile of “unsolved stabbings”. Post “hate speech”? Expect the police to knock down your door and arrest you. And even there, there’s no consistency, “hate speech” is deemed “hate speech” based on whom the “victims” are and not on the speech itself.
jOHNEICE says
folks,
wake up, the ‘islamophobia’ term was specifically created by the muslim brotherhood group ‘The international institute of islamic thought, abdur rahman muhammad, for the sole
PURPOSE OF BEATING DOWN CRITICS, DESIGNED AS A WEAPON TO ADVANCE A TOTALITARIAN CAUSE BY STIGMATIZING CRITICS AND SILENCING THEM. THIS PLAN WAS AN OUTGROWTH OF THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD DECEPTIVE “GENERAL STRATEGIC GOAL FOR NORTH AMERICA”. READ IT, IT IS ON THE INTERNET.
‘their lying asses are getting by with murder of free societies and people who support them.” any country who puts with this crap is DOOMED.
FIGHT BACK, THEY ARE LIARS
Gork says
There was a time when the British press were known for publishing just about anything they could get their hands on. It was often scandalous, sometimes risque, and they really didn’t give a damn who was offended.
No more. Today, if you write something even remotely blasphemous against Islam, you will suffer the consequences. It amazes me to this day that a country could go so fast from one extreme to the other.
Niemoller says
The land of Orwell is now an Orwellian land.
gravenimage says
Grimly true.
Lydia Church says
The wizard of Orwell strikes again…
and it won’t be the last time.
Here’s that quote again:
“The lamps are going out all over Europe, and we won’t see them lit again in our lifetime.”
Sir Edward Grey
Applies to so many situations where the dying of the light exists, and now more than ever, on the eve of the end of the world. The good news? There is a happy ending, and it doesn’t rest with our doings.
Gork says
What would you call such behavior if these people were not wearing uniforms?
I am very curious as to how this operation was started, funded, and justified. I look forward to reading the details as they come out in court.
Carol the 1st says
Not quite a lynch mob but very nearly a swarm.
FYI says
Take note that this can also be done to you if you are an atheist or an ex-muslim “apostate”:you too can be accused of “islamophobia”.
This is Tyranny:This is using islam to silence dissent…no religion should be above criticism…
somehistory says
These “officers”…and any others who are not moslim…should ask themselves how they would like it if a moslim creep came to their door, followed by men with guns and sticks and ram rods to force down the door so the moslim creep could enter and nose around, making accusations.
Attempting numerous times to see inside as they waited, is creepy and shows such a lack of respect. They were showing how anxious they were to get in and haul away this man who had been saying things about islam, that the hideous moslim with his website set-up to compile fake hate crimes, didn’t like.
R Russell says
I was totally confused by the previous video when we were told the police uniforms had come out green due to the quality of the CCTV. This puzzled me completely for it didn’t seem to interfere with the colour of the cars.
Now we have this extra CCTV where the police uniforms are still green except for one ‘man’ who is wearing blue trousers.
I hope they have a more convincing explanation when they are next asked why the police are dressed in green uniforms.
marc says
I have verified that these are UK police and all information provided by fahrenheit211.net has proven correct (I do IT forensics professionally),
The video since first being shared has had considerable work done by a post production professional to correct some of the colour inconsistencies caused by the cheap webcam.
If you are still not satisfied you’ll need to check with the police themselves.
gravenimage says
Thank you, Marc.
Carolyne says
Green is the sacred color of Islam, forbidden to wear or use in any but Islamic activities. It appears to me that these men, and it cannot be convincingly argued to the contrary, are wearing green uniforms. This, as pointed out above, can be proven by one man clearly wearing blue trousers and the colors of the cars. I would say they are members of a new and secret branch of the UK police created exclusively for the purpose of persecuting British subjects who have a distasteful view of Islam and dare to utter it or write it.
Rufolino says
Very interesting comment, Carolyne.
Carol the 1st says
The young, bearded one showed up at around 5:04. He clearly takes charge and steps up to the door with determination at that point. The hood on his jacket is lined with the same green color as his pants and there’s some kind of green logo on the arm of the jacket also. Definitely looks like a muslim.
Carol the 1st says
He’s the one bringing him out of the house and frisking him too during the last minute of the video while the uniformed cops stand off to the side.
PRCS says
Islamophobia:
An IRRATIONAL fear of the ideology.
It is RATIONAL to fear those who act it out–as the actions of Muslims have made clear over the past 1400 years.
gravenimage says
Video from UK: More security cam footage front and back of police raid on blogger for “Islamophobia”
…………………..
Just astonishingly insane–police surrounding this man’s house as though he were a dangerous criminal when his only “crime” was verbally mocking a Muslim supremacist.
That the police in Britain are too understaffed to protect the public against Jihad terrorism makes this all the more insane.
DICK R says
The police are now the enemy of the indigenous population of this country .
jca reid says
Our brave “PC” Police. Picking on the soft targets. The guy did nothing wrong! Imagine raising concern about drug dealers & vandals in your area & the Police arrest you!!
PRCS says
Well, truth be known:
It appears that the rules have (a) been changed and (b) he’s (allegedly) done something wrong.
Fred Hayward says
Just wondering: how is this different from Saudi Arabia or Iran arresting bloggers?!? ?
gravenimage says
Well, the victim probably won’t be tortured at this point–although that could change, too.
toomanyhobbies says
I wonder If they would have raided them if they had been talking bad about any other religion….
jus wundrin says
It appears that hitlers allies are winning the Battle of Britain.
gravenimage says
Grimly true.