How wonderful! How woke! How multicultural! Now: when will a big mosque in Washington invite a lot of Christian speakers to the mosque to praise Jesus? What’s that? Never? The “outreach” and “dialogue” only ever go in one direction? Now, why is that?
Alhamdullilah for the opportunity to serve my constituents, to care for my children and have a wonderful love in my life.
This is a prayer a read on the start of Congress and feel grounded in its blessings.
Thank you all for standing with me and for our progressive movement! pic.twitter.com/Npzemjz00Q
— Ilhan Omar (@IlhanMN) November 28, 2019
“Ilhan Omar Flashes Back to Reading Islamic Prayer in a Catholic Church: Allah, ‘Sustain Me with Your Power,’” by Hannah Bleau, Breitbart, December 2, 2019:
Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) on Thanksgiving posted a flashback of her reciting an Islamic prayer at St Peter’s Catholic Church in Washington, DC, as part of a service she attended in January.
Omar attended what was described as a “multi-faith” gathering which drew a number of high profile attendees like House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi (D-IL), Rep. Donna Shalala (D-FL), and many more:
On Thanksgiving, Omar posted a flashback video, featuring the freshman lawmaker reciting an Islamic prayer at the service.
“Alhamdullilah [praise be to Allah] for the opportunity to serve my constituents, to care for my children and have a wonderful love in my life,” Omar tweeted alongside the video.
“This is a prayer a read on the start of Congress and feel grounded in its blessings,” she continued. “Thank you all for standing with me and for our progressive movement!”:
“There is a prayer in Islam that says, ‘Allah, put courage into my heart, and take away all that might hinder serving you,’” Omar stated in the video. “Free my tongue to proclaim your goodness, that all may understand me.”
“Give me friends to advise and help me, that by working together our efforts may bear abundant fruit,” she continued. “And, above all, let me constantly remember that my actions are worthless, unless they are guided by your hand.”
“Allah, may everything that I do start well and finish well. Sustain me with your power,” she continued….
Philis O'Shaughnessy says
She is muslim . muslims say Jesus is just a prophet, not the son of GOD. Catholic christianity is in deep question. You must be born again spiritually.
barbaracvm1 says
The first commandment states there is only one GOD. This is the most unforgivable sin.
Del says
I would have walked out, loudly promising never to return to that dhimmi building.
Frank Anderson says
Del, meaning no disrespect to you, please for your interest and others, think just a minute. Do you ever watch episodes of Robert Stack’s Untouchables or many other TV shows from the 50’s 60’s and 70’s? A common story line involved someone who did not want to join illegal conduct who made a big fuss about going to the police, and then winds up getting killed.
I agree with refusing to countenance or participate in treacherous actions. I suggest instead of making a show and creating a target on any vulnerability you might have, do it quietly. If you have to leave before the “normal” time, you might just go to the bathroom and forget to come back.
I made the error of being a federal informant not knowing that the federal agents I was informing were part of the fraud I was reporting. That was in 1982, and I am still hurting from their retaliation. I wrote an article, When to Keep Silent, which details a plan to shield those who resist from the reach of those who would hurt them. The plan has been reviewed and blessed by my state bar, The Securities Exchange Commission and a number of lawyers, including one of my professors who served as US Attorney. There is no reason for you to suffer or see yourself harmed or even destroyed because someone else is a crook.
Josephine says
what a lying, complicit muslim whore; the Catholic folks are being hoodwinked, need I say more?
Jay says
Josephine- exactly! This is absolutely wrong on too many levels to imagine! Of course pope Francis is a wolf in sheep’s clothing destroying the Catholic Church from within!
Only God can save us from this vile threat!
God bless America! ??????
Frank Anderson says
J. I ask you to consider the quote “Deliberate Ignorance Constitutes Knowledge of the Truth” from the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in the case available online Wyle v. R.J. Reynolds. “Hoodwinked” is too kind and generous after 18 years of GWB’s “religion of peace” un-retracted lie.
Wellington says
Seconded, Frank. Rank, willful ignorance is no defense, either in the realm of the law or in the realm of ethics.
mortimer says
‘Hoodwinked’? Is Pope Francis ‘hoodwinked’ about the intentions of Islam? Is he ‘willfully ignorant’ of the goal of Islam to dominate and eradicate Christianity in Europe?
Why is the RRC promoting Islam? They should be converting Muslims. That is the ‘GREAT COMMISSION’ conferred upon all Christians.
What is Pope Francis doing to convert Muslims?
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
When one uses the term, “willful ignorance,” one should put the accent on “willful.” My experience with the willfully ignorant people around me is that these people have an inkling that they are wrong but stubbornly choose to ignore the evidence.
I suspect they believe that this willful ignorance is a small price to pay for having their image shine virtuous. They erroneously believe that nothing can take away the wonderful affluence, freedoms and security that they enjoy, no matter what stupidity they engage in.
Wellington says
Agreed.
Frank Anderson says
F.C.I, we are probably using different words, “Willful” and “Deliberate” to mean essentially the same thing. Please let me suggest reading the case Wyle v. R.J. Reynolds to see why the court chose to use the word deliberate. A situation where a person “does not know” because he choses to not know, and pretends to not know, illustrates a liar who is betraying not only the truth, but everyone who relies on his guidance in making decisions. It is under most circumstances a clear breach of a duty an advisor holds to the people he is advising.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
“F.C.I, we are probably using different words, “Willful” and “Deliberate” to mean essentially the same thing.”
I suppose.
But to my mind, “deliberate” subtly implies a more calculated, intelligent, even malicious meaning. Whereas “willful” implies stubbornness.
Maybe neither word is apt. Perhaps they are completely unaware of the level of their stupidity due to the Dunning-Kruger Effect. (‘A little knowledge is a dangerous thing’ or ‘the problem with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.’)
Frank Anderson says
F.C.I, I cannot accept that anybody in a public leadership position is sufficiently uninformed, by accident, that 1400 years of murder, slavery, looting and conquest goes without notice. Making excuses for them only delays holding accountable those who are selling out our society in favor of barbarity. You have every right to your opinion, as do I; but I hope you will continue thinking about this.
I have seen RAGE in the eyes of my Rabbi and dear friend of more than 20 years when I questioned his “religion of peace” views. It was time for me to move on. “Deliberate Ignorance Constitutes Knowledge of the Truth.” Between 250 and 1000 Million people have been murdered by islam in 1400 years, and rising daily. How can that be finessed or ignored?
Frank Anderson says
Please accept a Post Script: One of many inspiring teachings I found in Judaism appears on page 711 of the Gates of Prayer, the version in use in the early 1990’s. It is called the Doubter’s Meditation. It encourages the third point of the 3 that drew me to Judaism for over 20 years, “ask all questions repeatedly because each time a question is asked the answer is closer to the truth; the whole of which will be known to us only when we see God.” “Doubt is the handmaiden of truth; It is the acid which eats away the tarnish of the false. . .” When doubt is absent one of the major principles of wisdom is lost.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Dear Frank Anderson: I am not making excuses for these under or uninformed people. Remember, I’m the person who repeatedly posts Clifford’s Principle (“It is wrong always, everywhere, and for anyone, to believe anything upon insufficient evidence.”) on this site. And such a person, as described by Clifford, is all the more guilty if they actively turn their eyes from the abundant evidence that is easily accessible, as is the case with Islam.
Rather, I am trying to explain it. Some people should know, such as your Rabbi and friend. It’s their job to know (and it’s not like it would be difficult to find out). In that case, both of my above-mentioned connotations of “deliberate” and “willful” would certainly apply. But for others … the Dunning-Kruger Effect explains a lot.
Frank Anderson says
RESPECTED F.C.I. we most certainly agree on the conclusion. I humbly suggest that you consider what I wrote for my official adopted mother’s funeral: in 1989 “There are some things in life for which we are not given to understand.” We can spend a lot of time going around in endless circles trying to understand the unfathomable. I suggest there are better and more productive uses of our time and intellect.
The wisdom I gained from the Jewish community is not lost on me, in spite of the absence of wisdom that caused me to leave. For some reason I find wisdom in many places from many sources, and try to put it to work in my life whether others do or not. One Sunday I heard a particularly wise proposition in a Presbyterian sermon about when to say, “Enough” and move on. Many times in the last 30 years it has helped me.
My Rabbi (teacher) inspired me for two decades, and continues to inspire me after his retirement and departure. He certainly fulfilled the teaching that there are no perfect humans, either good or bad. His refusal to “ask every question repeatedly, even to the very existence of God” is disappointing. I found it hard to face him after his explosive reaction to my question. But I move on with gratitude for what I learned. I could spend the rest of my life trying to explain, and have no time to work for good.
gravenimage says
Frank, I know lot of both ordinary people and low-level elected officials who are clueless about Islam. It is not as though most politicians on winning an office are suddenly given a seminar on the truth about Islam.
In fact, Robert Spencer used to give such seminars to security at the FBI, before mau-mauing by groups like CAIR took their toll.
Now, elected officials charged with protecting the populace *should* learn something about Islam; but in many cases they don’t.
James Lincoln says
Frank Anderson states,
“Deliberate Ignorance”:
“A situation where a person “does not know” because he choses to not know, and pretends to not know…”
Absolutely true, Frank. I oftentimes dust off my undergraduate degree in psychology to attempt to understand thought processes. Perhaps part of the “Deliberate Ignorance” could be attributed to the defense mechanism of DENIAL.
Denial: Refusing to recognize or acknowledge real facts or experiences that would lead to anxiety.
Learning about Islam and reading the course source texts on the subject is critically important but, at the same time, is very uncomfortable and anxiety provoking.
Just a thought, I’m not sure that it totally explains it.
Best wishes, Frank. Hope that all of your medical issues are under control.
Frank Anderson says
J.L. Thank you; but they are not. I have taken more nitroglycerin in the last 2+ months than the previous 5 years. Monday cardiologist appointment. The third in less than 2 months,
I have education in engineering, law and accounting enough to understand most of the time when to call on other professions instead of getting out of my area of qualification. ONE of my primary sources was given to me by one of my un-numbered “mothers by choice” at a hard time where I really needed to learn what the source was teaching. MD/Psychiatrist Viktor Frankl saw his family sent to the gas chambers early in WWII. By some miracle he survived to write both his story and his proposal for what I believe is another “school” of mental health study. His book, Man’s Search for Meaning, is the SECOND hardest to read because of the story it tells; the Hardest being MD Wafa Sultan’s book A God who Hates about her experience in Syria.
Frankl survived in part by studying why inmates around him did not commit suicide. It was as simple as stepping across a low wire about 3 meters/10 feet from the camp fence, to be shot dead immediately by a guard. From one of my “fathers by choice” who is a PhD in Clinical Psychology, Carl Jung wrote about long distance goals motivating us to continue through life’s challenges. Frankl considered immediate goals as a reason for the daily decision to live in the face of utter horror. “I can survive any How if I have a Why.” Many of the Whys used were totally without real hope, but were sufficient to bear the horror another day. He called these groundless and futile dreams “The Delusion of Reprieve”. We are in a death camp with a difference. There still may be time and opportunities to prevent our killing.
The English translation of the book is beautifully written and a pleasure to read, but for the story. I was given that book following the total destruction of my family and professional life at the hands of pervasive corruption. Between what I learned from it and Patrick McGoohan’s Prisoner, I am doing MUCH better than then. You might consider a sincere friendly suggestion to read it, or read it again. Like the Jewish chicken soup universal remedy, “It couldn’t hurt!”
I still have good work to do.
James Lincoln says
Frank Anderson,
Thank you for the thoughtful reply.
I wish you the very best with your cardiac issues, I’m sure that you have availed yourself to the best of medical care.
I will definitely check out all of the books that you have referenced.
Take good care – and may God bless…
Frank Anderson says
J.L. having been legally dead for about 2 hours in 2007, I consider every breath a blessing and a gift.
McGoohan’s Prisoner is available on Tubi and Pluto. A Roku device makes access easy.
Long before my surgery, my car hydroplaned on the Interstate, taking me on a wild ride to the trees. I remember thinking as I left the highway, “You know a fellow could get killed doing this ????” My second thought was, “I’m ready.” My only injury was a cracked bone in my thumb after crashing head-on into a tree. Volkswagen Rabbits and Jettas are tough, using the same structure in front..
gravenimage says
Good exchange, Frank and James.
Yes–willful naiveté is now a greater threat in the West than is garden-variety ignorance.
PRCS says
Starting from the top.
Kepha says
Who? Ilhan Omar, or some EmCee PeeCee ROman Catholic Cleric?
Clayton Lee says
Not this Catholic!
gravenimage says
Hear, hear!
barbaracvm1 says
Allowing her to speck in a Catholic Church is blasphemy. To allow this heresy to be spoken in GOD’s church, the priest is just as guilty.
The bishop needs to remove him.
gravenimage says
The Bishop is likely just as clueless. I doubt any of these fools understand what she is preaching.
somehistory says
Ah, yes, her wonderful “prayer” to satan the devil…no goodness, no blessing, no virtue or love…just evil and a loosened tongue to lie like satan himself. It’s all a big pretense…another word for lie…a tongue full of deceit and a heart that is ready to do bad, to lead others astray, in service to her fake god and fake prophet, the foul mass-murdering, raper of children who lied his way across the desert sands and deceived so many.
As far as this lying moslim is concerned, those two churches that invited her in, now belong to islam and satan. And, just look at the names of those who “joined” her in her “interfaith progressive movement.” Fools all, and just as guilty of lying.
Frank Anderson says
S.H., whatever few and trivial disagreements we MAY have, we agree here. Having observed the same kow-tow in a Jewish community, to my complete sadness, there is no reason to be surprised or confused. “Those who cannot remember. . . ” “There are none so blind. . .” It is up to us to light some candles in a dark world.
somehistory says
FA,
I do believe that only once did we actually disagree and that was on “conspiracy” and when charges can/will be made.
You have the experience, and I was going by what my text books, cases cited, and professors said.
As i recall, that is the only thing. if there were other matters, I do not remember them, so they are of no importance to me.
I do read your responses and I note that you always recommend consulting an attorney, locally, if one has a question. Each state has its own and there are some variations even when similar.
I was taught by experts in anti-terrorism…extensive experience and knowledge of terrorists… and psychopathy and she comes off as both to me..terrorist and psychopath. Either makes her a liar.
Frank Anderson says
There was a narrow issue that I had not only heard in law school, but also litigated on when permission to sue is required. I have no need to hurt or embarrass you, because I would not want to be embarrassed when I am in error. You just did not know, and for some reason avoided a little research. We have much more important issues that deserve our mutual support and cooperation. I hope we can move on to greater achievements.
somehistory says
I do recall now. It had to do with suing the government. And, it was not a lack of “research” the reason we disagreed.
One important thing about the law….Attorney Jones argues for a “little guy” against a big corporation on Monday, and does everything legal to win, and on Tuesday, he’s arguing in favor of the big corp over the little guy…different corp/little guy…but some of the same laws. Attorneys argue differently when it means a “win.”
And the way judges see things…some allow more of their own bias when ruling, etc.
So, no law is written in stone.
Except God’s Law. And those are the ones that matter most to me. If I can agree with another on those, other things don’t really bother me that much. I suppose with practicing attorneys man’s laws matter more.
And this moslim has most likely broken all of God’s Laws. She should try breaking the law on gravity and without the use of a plane or helicopter. Or just take a long walk on a short pier.
Frank Anderson says
S.H. I learned early in 1968 when I started programming computers that it is much better to find and correct an error than to drag out the suffering. One time it took me a week to locate a period that should have been a comma to make a huge program (maximum for that computer and compiler) work. I would rather learn when I am in error before trying something in court than waiting to lose a case because I didn’t know. If you think I am in error I hope you will tell me and help me learn. As far as I am concerned (AND sincerely hope) we are at peace.
somehistory says
FA,
Permit me one last comment here. The Bible says that we are to “love your neighbor as you love yourself.” it also says, “Love covers a multitude of sins, and love does not keep account of the injury/. Love hopes all things.” (It says a lot more, but these cover my point, I think.)
On less important things, I believe we can disagree. Also, I think we can go forward as we both are against the havoc, misery, destruction and death that is directly caused by islam, the lawless creed from our number one enemy, the very first lawbreaker, criminal, outlaw in our beautiful Universe, satan the devil.
At this moment, I have too much to do and too little time, so I may not be commenting again until some time next year. 🙂
Frank Anderson says
S.H. you will be missed when not present. I remind many including myself, that we must care for ourselves in order to be able to care for others. The word “as” means there is an equality of importance. I have often had clients who were sacrificing their own interests to support eternally parasitic adult children. In many cases the destruction being suffered was tragic. Travel in peace, safety and success.
gravenimage says
Somehistory, sorry to hear you will not be posting for a while. I hope you have wonderful holidays, and we will see you again in the new year!
Terry Gain says
The Pope is proud of her.
Frank Anderson says
+1. The Pope is not alone!
mortimer says
The Muslim Brotherhood is proud of her because everything is going according to their plan.
James C. says
That would require the Pope to know of her, and of this incident. Does he know of either ?
Walter Sieruk says
Ilan Omar who was praising Allah in a Washington DC Roman Catholic church was playing the Catholics in the specific church as fools. For one of the major doctrines of the Catholic church his the dogma of the Trinity.
Therefore Christians and Muslim don’t really believe in and worship the same God. For the facts are that the god of Islam or the Muslims is a single being. In great contrast the God of Christianity, of the Christians consists as the Trinity. By the Trinity it means that “Within the essence of the one True God there are Three Persons. Being God the Father. God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Not three gods in one But Three Distinct Persons in One God. Being the Tri-Personal Nature of God, Matthew 3:13-17. Second Corinthians 13:14. . The Bible teaches, the Father is God, Galatians 1:1.The Son is God, First John 5:20. The Holy Spirit is God, Acts 5:3,4. Not three gods but the one and only Triune God.
As further explained in the Christian book MAJOR BIBLE THEMES by Lewis Sperry Chafer on page 39 which informs the readers that “Many believe that the doctrine of the Trinity in implicit in the use of the word Elohim, as the name of God which is in a plural form and seems to refer to the Triune God. “ Likewise, in the Christian magazine PERHAPS TODAY November/December 2013 on page 8 it reads about Genesis 1:1. “In the beginning God [this is the plural noun Elohim, meaning ‘more than one’] created the heaven and the earth.” Furthermore, a bit of a view of the inner workings of the Trinity together may be seen in that the God the Father raised Jesus from the dead. Romans 10:9,10. Jesus raised Himself from the dead, John 2:19,20. The Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the dead, Romans 8:11.The inner-workings of the Trinity of God may also be seen in the fact that the Father sanctifies, First Thessalonians 5:23. The Son sanctifies, Ephesians 5:26. Hebrews 2:11; 9:12,14;13:12.The Holy Spirit sanctifies ,Romans 15:16. Second Thessalonians 2:13. Getting back to the Bible book of Genesis. In Genesis 1:26 in reads “The God said let US make man in Our image , according to our likeness…” The words are the plural “Us” and “Our.” As in “We the Trinity” For the very next verse, 27, it further reads “So God created man in His own image…” In verse 26 it’s the plural “Us” and “Our” to the singular “His” That is Three Persons in One God. In addition, in the New Testament in Matthew 28:19 It further reads the Jesus said “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the the Son and the Holy Spirit.” [N.K.J.V] That is “name” not “names.” In conclusion the many apologists and propagandists for Islam for Islam who make the claim that Christians and Muslims believe in and worship the same God are make an untrue and outright false claim. For the God of Christianity, Christians and the Bible is not the god of Islam Muslims and the Koran.
Infidel says
Why would a church allow a non-Christian entry in the first place? That’s the root cause of this insanity. Places of worship should have the right to ban entry to non-adherents, just like clubs do to non-members
Kasch Mir says
the devil is behind all this…
gravenimage says
Actually, have always allowed non-Christians entry.
This is very different from allowing non-Christians to preach the worship of false gods from the pulpit.
gravenimage says
That should read, “Actually, Churches have always allowed…”
Infidel says
Probably a rule worth re-visiting. Do Gentiles have permission to enter synagogues?
Just state that houses of worship are for the adherents of the said faith, and leave it at that. No need to invite non-believers to convert or preach
gravenimage says
Yes, they do, Infidel. I am not Jewish, but I have attended services at Synagogues–especially with Jewish friends in Berkeley and at Congregation Emanu-El in San Francisco.
And every Thanksgiving the Synagogue and the Unitarian Church swap off holding services, with the Unitarian Minister preaching at the Synagogue, and the Rabbi at the Unitarian Church. This is a custom that dates back to the 1906 earthquake, when due to quake damage the congregations amicably shared a building.
I don’t think Jews and Christians should have to change welcoming customs dating back centuries because of Muslims.
Churches and Synagogues being open to everyone is not the problem–it is allowing supremacist Muslims to preach the destruction of Jews and Christians that is profoundly clueless.
Kepha says
We allow non-Christians entry wll the time—just not to teach or lead.
Spiro says
Is there a Roman Catholic Church anymore or is just a social gathering When you invite Christophobic into your church to preach are you really serious about your faith did anyone asked to be allowed to come to her mosques
to witness for Christ
Beware of wolves in sheeps clothing
gravenimage says
Ilhan Omar praises Allah in Washington, DC Catholic church
………………
Those at St. Peter’s Church who allowed this are dhimmi fools.
PRCS says
Did any members of ‘the flock’ protest?
Frank Anderson says
The few who would protest would not dare to protest because they would be “purged”. A choice must be made, as explained in McGoohan’s Prisoner, either be Number 6, the ordinary “subject” in a “community’: or be Number 1, responsible and in charge of your own life. One choice is for the lazy; the other is for those who work.
gravenimage says
Grimly, this would likely be the case, Frank.
Frank Anderson says
GI, This is what I observed in the Jewish community.
gravenimage says
Very sad, Frank. I know you have detailed this before.
Wellington says
Every adult Christian should know that, per Islamic theology, the Muslim prophet Jesus (Isa) was not crucified (to be found in Sura 4 of the Koran) and at the end of the world Jesus is going to throw Christians into Hell for deifying Him. Yes, EVERY adult Christian should know this.
Infidel says
One thing I’ve always wondered – why would allah assign to Isa a job that Mohammed executed perfectly well? Why not send Mohammed himself back to complete the unfinished job? If one was running a company and a certain employee executed a certain operation perfectly, would one assign the same job to someone else who had no track record of doing anything even close?
Or was ‘Prophet Isa’ a Jihadist before Islam even existed?
gravenimage says
Infidel, I think Islam was just intent on appropriating Jesus in the same way that it appropriated all of the Jewish prophets. The only real purpose of “Jesus”–“prophet Isa”–in Islam is to kill Christians in the last days.
CogitoErgoSum says
I think it’s because the Isa of the Koran is a completely failed prophet. He accomplished nothing at all and had to be saved from crucifixion by Allah at the last moment. In fact, you could say that the way Allah saved Isa by making it only appear that Isa was crucified actually created Christianity. So this Islamic Isa is supposedly still alive somewhere and will come back to Earth to undo what was done because of him and redeem himself by abolishing the Jizya and killing all Christians who refuse to become Muslims. In this Islam mocks the true Jesus and for that Muhammad and those who have followed him in spreading this lie about Jesus will be judged accordingly by Christ Himself.
gravenimage says
Good analysis, CogitoErgoSum. And the Islamic story is even uglier than this–it is not just that”Isa” was not crucified; he had some poor nameless victim crucified in his place. So it’s not just that “Isa” is not the savior–he is also the worst kind of coward.
Kepha says
Every post-Christian folly, starting with the Gnostics, tries to claim Jesus. After all, he seems to be a very useful person to recruit to your side. It made my much-younger self wonder why anyone would like to do so if the Christian faith is false.
Frank Anderson says
W. every adult, Christian and all, should know what is the goal of islam. Their lives, freedom and future depend on it.
Frank Anderson says
W. I agree with your suggestion and would extend it to every adult regardless of religious affiliation or lack. Islam makes no secret of its goal to destroy all other religions, to kill or enslave all who do not convert, and to steal or destroy anything that pleases them.
gravenimage says
+1
Beneath the Veil of Consciousness says
Why is she still in the U.S.? Hopefully, she’ll at least be voted out of office. Maybe then she’ll consider living in the snake pit of a Muslim country. What a disgrace!
Peter35 says
Give them an inch……but the Catholics are showing themselves to be the atrociously stupid dhimmis moslems have come to expect.
Wellington says
Some Catholics, Peter35, including the fool who is now Pope, but not all Catholics.
Truthy1 says
The Muslim prayer in the “Catholic” Synagogue is right at home. The Muslims share the Catholic Luciferianism. They both DO worship the same god ! It is the non-discerning Christian who is caught up in the lies and deceptions. Here take a look and listen to these facts.
The Islamic Connection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCmSBfVXEmA&list=PLdbXyyVfVp-6TTHXK9aiIoFcBWWH59esb&index=16
The Catholic Church Built by a Muslim Emperor http://www.madnesshub.com/2019/03/the-catholic-church-built-by-muslim.html
Wellington says
Catholic Luciferianism? Oh brother.
So, Romanesque, Gothic and Baroque architecture, the intellectual architecture of people like Erigena, Anselm and Thomas Aquinas, the beauty of Gregorian Chant, Italian Catholic artists like Michelangelo and Raphael, Popes like Urban II (who called the First Crusade) and the previous Pope, Benedict XVI, who criticized Islam on several occasions (e.g., his Regensburg speech in 2006), Catholic monarchs like Philip II of Spain and Jan Sobieski of Poland who vigorously fought Muslims, as well as Robert Spencer himself who is a Catholic (Eastern Rite I believe) were or are all part of something aligned with Islam, something Satanic? Yeah, right.
In this fight against what Islam intends for all of us, whether Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu, Sikh, agnostic, atheist, et al., it is foolish to divide this necessary alliance. Respectful disagreement with a particular religion or sect is perfectly fine, but treating the largest Christian sect, Roman Catholicism, as something evil is evidence of both ignorance and foolishness. I think you should change your name to Falsey 1.
gravenimage says
Yes, Wellington–“Truthy” is not very truthy. Just unhinged anti-Catholicism and some gratuitous anti-Semitism thrown in for good measure.
This fool would not be free today if so many Catholics had not fought against the depredations of Muslims over the centuries. Not that he will ever get that, of course.
And the article he links to does not say what he implies–Akbar just allowed Portuguese merchants to buy land in his realm–this was just political. His successor then had the Church razed So the idea that Muslims worship the Christian God is *not* borne out.
James C. says
Good post. But Truthy’s post is a model of sanity compared to the all-embracing conspiracist paranoia of Chick tracts and comics. That so many people swallow that stuff undermines one’s confidence in the reasonableness of their dislike of Islam.
Heidi says
The world is not threatened by those who are evil but by those who allow evil. Albert Einstein
PRCS says
Plenty of them in those pews.
James C. says
Not sure that accounts for Hitler, Stalin, or Mao. It might be more applicable to those who allow long-standing and continuing evils in society like abortion or Jew-bashing or cruelty to children or torture.
Thomas Richard says
Just another mausoleum………a place to avoid…..
gravenimage says
Here’s this ugly prayer:
“This is a prayer a read [sic] on the start of Congress and feel grounded in its blessings. Thank you all for standing with me and for our progressive movement!” Omar added.
In the video, the Democrat reads a common Islamic prayer while at the altar of the St. Peter’s Catholic Church.
“There is a prayer in Islam that says, ‘Allah, put courage into my heart, and take away all that might hinder serving you,’” starts Omar. “Free my tongue to proclaim your goodness, that all may understand me.”
“Give me friends to advise and help me, that by working together our efforts may bear abundant fruit,” she continued. “And, above all, let me constantly remember that my actions are worthless, unless they are guided by your hand.”
https://www.dailywire.com/news/watch-ilhan-omar-reads-islamic-prayer-at-catholic-church-prayer-service
The “take away all that might hinder serving [Allah] is a threat to all non-Muslims. it doesn’t take much to read between the lines.
Wellington says
Indeed, gravenimage. Just another tedious word game played by Muslims (other examples being, as I know you know so well, that Muslims honor Jesus too and that there is no compulsion in religion).
Islam is a fraud in sundry ways. The many word games it plays is just one of these fraudulent ways. But Holy Hell, you’d think more people to date who are not Muslim would have figured this out by now. Some have, but still not nearly enough. Thus, Islam continues to hide behind its religious veil quite effectively.
gravenimage says
All too true, Wellington.
James C. says
Given what the Koran says about fitnah, Omar’s prayer is anything but re-assuring. A Catholic might benignly interpret it as a Muslim equivalent of St Ignatius Loyola’s prayer of self-dedication:
“Receive, O Lord, all my liberty. Take my memory, my understanding, and my entire will. Whatsoever I have or possess Thou hast bestowed upon me; to Thee I give it all back and surrender it wholly to be governed by Thy Will. Give me love for Thee alone, with Thy grace, and I am rich enough and ask for nothing more.”
– but, given the hostility of the Koran to Christianity, such an interpretation seems naive.
gravenimage says
‘Love for Allah alone’ means murdering those who do not worship Allah.
Norbert Tanguay says
That church has been desecrated; therefore, no Catholic should ever set a foot inside it again.
gravenimage says
Actually, I wish real Catholics *would* worship there. Ceding more and more to Muslims and dhimmis is not actually a good thing.
James C says
Offering Mass in it should be enough to restore it to Christian use. Maybe it should be dedicated to Emperor Constantine XI. His entry in Wikipedia says:
“Some[who?] Eastern Orthodox and Greek-Catholics consider Constantine XI a saint (or a national martyr or ethnomartyr, Greek: ἐθνομάρτυρας). However, he has not been officially canonized by either Church, partly due to controversy surrounding his personal religious beliefs and partly because death in battle is not normally considered a form of martyrdom by the Orthodox Church. According to Catholicism and Orthodoxy, martyrs are those who voluntarily accept death for their faith, typically in a situation where they have the option to give up Christianity and live, but choose death instead.”
If he doesn’t count as a Saint, the 800 Martyrs of Otranto (martyred in 1480, canonised by Pope Francis) unquestionably do. A dedication of that church to them would be very timely.
Crusades Were Right says
Is it true that – in Mohammedan eyes – this church has now been converted into a mosque? Frankly, as a Catholic, I would not feel comfortable worshipping in it until it had been reconsecrated. Maybe it should also be renamed to include the name of a more recent martyr for Christ. As Jihad Watch reveals, they are numerous, and being created all the time, for some reason…
gravenimage says
Yep.
Spiro says
Very good points
abad says
Yes, it’s true.
The following article dates to 2015 but is quite the eye-opener.
https://catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2015/03/13/churches-should-not-be-used-for-muslim-worship/
So glad I left the Roman Catholic church many years ago.
Frank Anderson says
Abad, I have many Catholic friends from the earliest days. They are not comfortable with current pronouncements. I think if may be Winston Churchill who coined the phrase, “I didn’t leave the [party]. the [party] left me.” This is where the decision is forced to either be a sometime mindless, conforming member of a community or a free and responsible individual. The two are in conflict often. I have had to make that decision several times; and as painful as it is at the moment, I am better for making it.
tim gallagher says
I suppose all those people who attended the church service where Ilhan Omar spoke would have known in advance that she was going to speak. With what I think about Islam’s nature, I would certainly not have attended. If I was attending the service and the Muslim apologist was sprung on the congregation, I would have got up and walked out on her garbage. I would not have listened to any of the lying rubbish that she had to say. I don’t believe anything Muslims say to us.
ntesdorf says
It would have been less damaging if Ilhan Omar had praised Shayāṭīn (شياطين) rather than Allah ( الله) .
JHL says
Ilhan Omar’s commitment is to Islam — not the US Constitution.
abad says
Precisely why she does not belong in the USA and should be deported to Somalia ASAP
Robert Zarranz says
The sin lies with the clergy at the church allowing this wicked woman to the lectern. These priest bring scandal to the faith and needd to publically repent
Giacomo Latta says
Was she speaking in Arabic? Why didn’t the priest give her the bum’s rush as soon as she started to diss his religion?
Linda Rivera says
BLASPHEMY!
KWJ says
I guess these Roman Catholics like to be made fools. It’s one thing to have non-Christians visit a church, but it’s quite another for a Muslim to invoke Allah who plans on making Isa (fake Jesus) a warrior to help out killing all the Jews and all religions except Islam. In the Qur’an it speaks of “breaking the cross” [of Christianity].
This interfaith nonsense is a one-way street. Islam is full of much deceit. Catholic Christians, stop humiliating yourselves! I was just reading about all the church burnings in Ethiopia, which the Pope did say something about, but hardly getting tough or angry about it and calling out Muslims who are funded by oil countries.