“The Citizenship Amendment Act allows for the fast-tracking of applications from religious minorities including Hindus and Sikhs from Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh, but not Muslims,” says Gulf News.
“Racism”? “Islamophobia”? No. Religious minorities are persecuted in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh. Muslims aren’t. Why can’t India offer save haven to the persecuted? These bloody riots also illustrate why the Citizenship Amendment Act is reasonable.
This is not Kashmir. It's from Jamia. Peacefuls pelting stones and playing victim card. pic.twitter.com/w2Ue8ej3Sh
— Swordarms1 (@Swordarms1) December 13, 2019
“Watch: Protests against CAB in Jamia Millia Islamia turn violent amidst chants of Allaho Akbar, Nara-e-Taqbeer and La ilahi illilah,” OpIndia, December 14, 2019 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
Following the historic passing of the Citizenship Amendment Act, there have been protests in some parts of the country, which are being now hijacked by the Muslim groups and are unleashing extreme violence across the country. On Friday, the protests against the Citizenship Amendment Act (CAB) took a communal turn in Delhi after ‘students’ of the controversial Jamia Millia Islamia (JMI) University resorted to mob violence against the police officials and shouted Islamic slogans “Allah-o-Akbar” during their protests.
Reportedly, as the protests turned violent, 50 students were also detained after the stone-pelting.
Ade Fegan says
more muslims ….. more violence ………. exponentially
FYI says
Doesn’t the violent response of the muslims show how right the Indians are?..muslims are always rioting and throwing tantrums.
Say, India?
ALOO AKBAR!
{potatoes are greater(than allah)}
Salome says
This is why we need a ‘like’ button. Aloo akbar to you, too!
Jaladhi says
I wonder why do Muslims want to leave their Islamic “paradises” and come to non-Islamic dar ul harb??
the West should not admit any more Muslims as they are already facing demands from Muslims to admit more Muslims and prevent genuine non-Muslim migrants to come here.
India’s biggest mistake was to let Muslims live in India when Muslims were given their own country called Pakistan. Now, Muslims living in India revolt at the idea of admitting persecuted Hindus, Sjkhs, Jains, Christians but not Muslims from these paradises. If India allows it then the country will flood with Muslims from all these paradises as they are doing in Europe, Canada, Australia, NZ, USA…
Infidel says
‘India’s mistake’ was actually a sado-masochist decision by Gandhi and the Nehrus, who determined that they would demonstrate to the world that India is a better place for Muslims than Pakistan. Never mind that history had more emphatically demonstrated that Muslims were incapable of co-existing w/ anyone else – be it Hindus, Parsis, Buddhists, Jains, Sikhs, Christians, Jews, you name it! Nonetheless, they were determined to go w/ that argument, and unfortunately, the Hindu Mahasabha was nowhere near the Congress in terms of support, since the Brits were seen as the main enemy.
Also, going by Congress’s own propaganda, it would be stupid for India to follow their demands. Congress generally argued that Indian Muslims are more tolerant than Pakistanis and that’s why it makes sense to keep them in India, as opposed to drive them out to Pakistan. But in what’s being argued here, 🇵🇰🇦🇫🇧🇩 Muslims would be the ones coming to India. In other words, it would be fine for Muslims who’re demonstrably supportive of ISIS, al Qaeda, Taliban, et al to enter India on the same grounds as Christians, Sikhs, Buddhists and Hindus from all those countries. Nothing could be more insane.
Amit Shah should treat this as an emergency situation and crack down. Amongst other things, shut down Jamia Millia – why does Delhi need such a major madrassah in its midst? Shut it down and arrest the students for terrorism and anti-natonal activities – something that India does well. Also dismiss the government in Calcutta and start implementing the CAA and NRC in combination. As President Obama once said, elections have consequences: the BJP has an 80% domination of parliament, and they should act like it!
Kevin Elks says
Because it is a written command to conquer and make the world an Islamic caliphate by any means they can.
Peter35 says
The Indians would be well advised to get rid of the moslem 12% of their population they already have, by force, because they will never go peacefully, and this demand proves it!
I despair of the world EVER waking up to moslems and their rotten,misogynistic, sex-driven, old boys’ cult.
Infidel says
Long term, that’s a great idea. Right now, the timing would be awful, since the argument of the Indian government is that they’re not expelling their own Muslims anywhere, but just not accepting Muslims from those 3 countries as citizens
gravenimage says
Grimly true, Infidel. One thing at a time–just not making it worse now is the first step.
Peter35 says
Infidel and G.I. Don’t you both realize that your comments amount to appeasement?
The entire western world is terrified of moslems, and will do anything to avoid ‘getting the moslems riled up’
Sigh…..as long as everyone is terrified of moslems (including the Indian government) moslems just keep winning. Why do you both not see that?
In centuries gone by they would have been annihilated—-no more trouble. But in those times, people knew who moslems were–what islam was.
gravenimage says
Peter, I am *not* for appeasement, I assure you. But I don’t think that trying to expel the entire Muslim population of India right now would be either politic or possible. Sometimes achieving something doable is better than trying for the whole ball of wax at once if it is not practicable.
Infidel says
Peter
Q: How do you eat an elephant?
A: One bite at a time
When they’re rioting and accusing the government of something that’s not happening, that’s not the moment to prove them right. Instead, hold firm on the declared policy, and at a future date, crack down on such rioters in terms of treason charges and give them the option of leaving the country for greener (as in Islamic, not greener as in more prosperous) pastures.
In the meantime, enforce more rigidly laws that Muslims find indigestible, such as laws against beef production and consumption, and more and more such Muslims will leave on their own. Already Muslims all over India are fearful of Hindu vigilantes who nail them when they do anything from transporting cattle for slaughter to marrying Hindu girls. After it becomes uncomfortable enough, they’ll leave on their own
Peter35 says
So many say what you both just said, i.e. not doable. Whatever we thought of them, Nasser and Idi Amin proved otherwise.
islam is advancing, and we are losing; while I don’t see that here in British Columbia, I do see endless examples of that in my wife’s country, Norway, which is only a few years behind Sweden, and getting worse daily with three overweight, appeasing, leftist women in the driver’s seat. Believe it.
john chalmers says
its nnot shaved
gravenimage says
India: Muslims screaming “Allahu akbar” violently riot to pressure the country into admitting more Muslims
…………….
In other words, Muslims want to change this proposal from saving Hindus, Sikhs, Jains and Christians from Muslim oppression and murder to its allowing more Jihadists to flood into India.
I hope India stands firm on this.
Infidel says
‘India’s mistake’ was actually a sado-masochist decision by Gandhi and the Nehrus, who determined that they would demonstrate to the world that India is a better place for Muslims than Pakistan. Never mind that history had more emphatically demonstrated that Muslims were incapable of co-existing w/ anyone else – be it Hindus, Parsis, Buddhists, Jains, Sikhs, Christians, Jews, you name it! Nonetheless, they were determined to go w/ that argument, and unfortunately, the Hindu Mahasabha was nowhere near the Congress in terms of support, since the Brits were seen as the main enemy.
Also, going by Congress’s own propaganda, it would be stupid for India to follow their demands. Congress generally argued that Indian Muslims are more tolerant than Pakistanis and that’s why it makes sense to keep them in India, as opposed to drive them out to Pakistan. But in what’s being argued here, 🇵🇰🇦🇫🇧🇩 Muslims would be the ones coming to India. In other words, it would be fine for Muslims who’re demonstrably supportive of ISIS, al Qaeda, Taliban, et al to enter India on the same grounds as Christians, Sikhs, Buddhists and Hindus from all those countries. Nothing could be more insane.
Amit Shah should treat this as an emergency situation and crack down. Amongst other things, shut down Jamia Millia – why does Delhi need such a major madrassah in its midst? Shut it down and arrest the students for terrorism and anti-natonal activities – something that India does well. Also dismiss the government in Calcutta and start implementing the CAA and NRC in combination. As President Obama once said, elections have consequences: the BJP has an 80% domination of parliament, and they should act like it!
Infidel says
Please delete this: it was a reply to Jaladhi
gravenimage says
It’s a good post, Infidel.
Bevo francis says
No one want muslims in their country simply because muslims sooner or later will start with demands of welfare, no taxes, free everything and the best thing for them is to force the country to adopt and follow islam as the only religion and sharria is the only laws.
Good luck.
Infidel says
One thing about any foreign objections to this policy: every country has the right to decide who they want to admit as citizens. Most Arab gulf countries for instance, don’t give citizenship to non-Muslims – and they have every right to do so. So it’s entirely up to India to decide who they want to admit as refugees and absorb into their population
Another thing that’s been suggested: that India admit Shias/Ahmadiyas in addition to the non-Muslim groups, and also that India admit secular humanists. Neither of those are good ideas. For one, the Shias/Ahmadiyas identify as Muslims and are w/ Sunnis in India when it comes to group identification. As for the latter, it’s not India’s job to empty Pakistan or Bangladesh of all their secular people and leave those countries filled w/ just Jihadists. Also, like the famous example of Akbar to Aurangzeb, just b’cos one Muslim today is secular doesn’t mean that his descendants won’t be Jihadists. India’s therefore doing the right thing by not including these groups.
Modi should be congratulated on doubling down on his support. He has 5 years left, which is plenty of time to implement this policy and strengthen India’s borders w/ its Mohammedan neighbors
gravenimage says
Agnostics and Atheists are also threatened in Muslim countries. Of course, letting in Muslims of any stripe is a *really* bad idea.
Infidel, thanks for your contributions to this thread.
Lt Mason says
Same too in Malaysia.
Submit (PETALING JAYA: Dr Mahathir Mohamad has refuted Umno’s claim that the Malay-Muslim community will “run amok” over Putrajaya’s pledge to ratify a United Nations rights treaty.
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2018/11/18/icerd-wont-cause-riots-unless-zahid-stirs-up-trouble-says-dr-m/)
or else ( ‘ICERD not at the price of another May 13’
Irresponsible elements seeking to incite distrust, animosity and hatred, says Kit Siang
30 Nov 2018
https://www.thesundaily.my/local/icerd-not-at-the-price-of-another-may-13-AK158277)
sheliak says
The US should adopt a similar grant of citizenship policy. Our country desperately needs peoples who will testify to the horrors of muslim domination and oppression.
Infidel says
Just focusing on Christian refugees from anywhere in the world is a good first step
gravenimage says
Agreed, sheliak and Infidel.
Lydia Church says
“Muslims screaming “Allahu akbar” violently riot to pressure the country into admitting more Muslims”…
Oh sure! Wonderful strategy to convince them to let more in!
Ha!!!
TimothyS says
What has happened since 9/11? What has happened since the escalation of attacks in Europe? They are simply applying the same strategy with India. Apparently there are some regions which aren’t so drawn to the prospect of being overrun with fanatics.
JonathanInTelAviv says
Perhaps these Muslims should be given an area of their own autonomy, leading to its independence… That would make them happy, and is just, no? Perhaps part of Mumbai?
gravenimage says
Muslims already have Pakistan and Bangladesh.
Chand says
The problem isn’t giving asylum to non-Muslims from these Muslim countries. The problem is that this new law is being implemented along with an impending nationwide registration of illegal aliens.
Then whoever is an illegal and a non-Muslim might get amnesty while no Muslim can. This is a blatant and direct communalizing of citizenship, committing obvious discrimination on the basis of religion, which is forbidden in the Indian constitution.
The right wing Hindu party in power is purposely dividing the communities to get votes. It is provoking the Muslims by bringing forward discriminatory laws. Naturally Muslims are reacting to it by protesting.
Chand says
Giving asylum to persecuted non-Muslims from Muslim countries can surely be done in other non-discriminatory ways.
gravenimage says
Note that the Is;amophilic Chand considers saving the victims of Islam to be “discriminatory”. Bad dhimmis!
Infidel says
So to summarize what you wrote, there are 4 categories of people here:
– non-Muslim citizens
– Muslim citizens
– non-Muslim illegals/refugees
– Muslim illegals
On the first category, no issue: they’re calling the shots.
The third category is the one addressed by the CAA. It gives them an amnesty and a pathway to citizenship. Incidentally, that’s the real definition of a refugee: someone who’s being persecuted – in this case for their faith. The BJP government has, following a strong performance in an election, decided to give them refuge.
Just b’cos the BJP gave them refuge doesn’t mean that they have to give anyone else refuge on any other criteria. Every country has a right to choose who they wanna allow in.
Now, the fourth category is one that exists in India, but which past non-BJP governments both in Delhi, as well as Assam and Left Bengal have milked for votes. Also, given the open border that India has w/ Bangladesh, there looks like being no end to it. So India has made a call to first identify, and then deport them, and that’s what the NRC is meant to do. The NRC identifies the third and fourth category of people and plans to deport them. The CAA gives the third category of people a legal pathway away from deportation, but not the fourth.
The opposition to the bill in Assam is unique in that it’s exclusively opposed to the CAA on regional grounds: they do not want a combination of Bengali Hindus and Muslims to make that state a non-Assamese speaking state (the way Tripura is simply a second Bengal). There is a simple solution to this that the BJP could do: just like they’ve had carveouts for other scheduled tribes all over the northeast, they can do the same for Assam as a whole, and not allow Bangladeshi anyone to settle in Assam or in India’s northeast. Only in Bengal east of the Hoogly.
However, the opposition to the BJP elsewhere in India – particularly in Left Bengal – is a cynical attempt by them to conflate the second and fourth categories, and make it look like the second category is subject to deportation. There is no way that the NRC does that: Muslims simply have to demonstrate one way or another that they are citizens of India, and they won’t be deported. Already, Muslim illegals have started getting the message: Bangladeshi Muslims have been exfiltrating back into Bangladesh, scared of being nabbed by the Indian police.
As for the riots in Bengal, Assam, Delhi and elsewhere, Amit Shah should dismiss the Bengal government and declare President’s Rule there. And crush any violent opposition to these proposals w/ a firm hand
Mural says
I have new found respect for Amit Shah. Finally, Hindus have produced a leader worthy of giving our enemies just desserts.
Infidel says
I think Modi and Amit have a good cop/bad cop arrangement, which worked for them when they ran Gujarat (Modi was the Chief Minister and Amit the Home Minister). It works brilliantly.
Let’s see how long these protests can last. The Akalis have now demanded that Muslims too be included in the CAA. The BJP should respond by kicking the Akalis out of the NDA: all that the latter has done is deliver Punjab to the Congress.
Mural says
You conveniently leave out the fact those Muslims are economic migrants who have entered India Illegally. Can you ever write a single post here which is honest and truthful or are these two concepts alien to you.
TimothyS says
“This is a blatant… discrimination on the basis of religion”
Islam is a political system with a religious component. I suppose on your accounting, the neo-paganism of Nazis would obligate Israel to accept them. Correspondingly, Poland and France’s blatant discrimination against Germans caused world war II. If they had just let them walk in….
Frank Anderson says
A feeble attempt at humor and irony: I never heard of a non-violent riot.
Infidel says
In India, this is what it is: if Muslims riot against Hindus or a Hindu government, it’s a secular riot, or a non-violent riot. If Hindus or anyone riot against Muslims or a non-BJP government, it’s a communal, or a violent riot. It depends on who is doing the rioting, you silly islamophobe!!!
Frank Anderson says
“non-violent riot” explained. Thank you.
Nate Greene says
Well, at least these ‘students’ were considerate enough to identify themselves. Thus making it easier for the authorities to round them up and deport them en mass.
Always the victims…
Patrick B. Ludwig says
At least India has a strong nationalidt movement, the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS).
It is a paramilitary organisation dedicated to Hindu Nationalism. They frequently and violently crack down on muzzies feeling too entitled.
India should deport all muzzies to Kackistan.
That is why it was founded in the first place.
Eur says
Not only India.Europe should deport all pakis to Kackistan, Marocans to Marocco,Algerians….
DiploNerd says
Indian government’s response to deadly Muslim riots about the new law intended to save non-Muslims from India’s Muslim-majority neighbors: “Yes, my point exactly.”
JHL says
Muslims are told that their ideology must reign supreme. That is the reason for the riots. Appears India is waking up. I wish America and Europe would do the same. Islam is a menace to society .
Infidel says
The awakened vs the woke – that’s a battle royale to behold!
toomanyhobbies says
sounds like a prime excuse for them to slam the doors and deport the rest to me….
vasunthara swami says
The well treated muslim minority rioting against the Hindu majority country helping its persecuted Hindus from muslim countries! how much more bizarre can it get?