“Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment.” (Qur’an 5:33)
“Iranian Quran Expert Bahrampur on National TV: Protesters Should Be Slaughtered or Have Their Feet and Hands Chopped Off on Alternate Sides; If We Kill 10,000 of Them, It Will Not Be an Exaggeration,” MEMRI, November 26, 2019:
Abolfazl Bahrampur, an Iranian Quran interpreter and translator, was interviewed on Channel 1 of the Iranian TV on November 26, 2019. In the interview, Bahrampur said that according to the Quran, the punishment for protesters should be slaughtering, which is death in agony or chopping off their hands and feet on alternate sides of their bodies. He continued to say that the punishment must be carried out in public and in the place where the crimes were committed and they must be crucified as well, in order to serve as a deterrent for “the people who wait behind the scenes for America’s orders.” He said that killing 10,000 of the protesters would not be an exaggeration.
Following are excerpts:
Abolfazl Bahrampur: The people who acted as America’s armed soldiers in these demonstrations, and caused these troubles, thinking that they would bother us and shame us in the eyes of the world – the people who are now under arrest… What is the Quran’s ruling about them? Let me read one verse to you.
Interviewer: Yes, you’ve prepared it…
Abolfazl Bahrampur: Chapter Ma’ida, verse 33 reads… You and the viewers are welcome to enjoy this and see how the Quran goes into detail in these matters. I will explain the words one by one. ‘Indeed’ which means that this is unequivocal… ‘…the punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive [to spread] corruption upon the land…’ This means that they cause corruption, chaos, insecurity, and so on… What should we do with them? Three rulings are provided and they apply to the people who are now incarcerated in our jails.
[…]
First, ‘they shall be slaughtered.’ [The Quran] does not say that they should be ‘killed.’
Interviewer: What does yuquttalu mean?
Abolfazl Bahrampur: Ahhh. One, they should die in agony, not merely be killed. That’s what the verse says.
[…]
‘…or crucified’ which means that they should he hanged, ‘or their hands and feet on alternate sides shall be chopped off.’ Listen up. If we use this measure once, the people who were prepared for the next round will not dare to do it. This verdict must be carried out in public and in the very same spot where the crime was committed.
Interviewer: They should be executed or punished, right?
Abolfazl Bahrampur: Yes. [The Quran] continues to tell us how the amputation should be done: The right hand along with the left foot. This is extraordinary. You need to chop off four fingers on the right hand along with four toes on the left foot and then you should release them back to society. ‘…or that they should be expelled from the land.’ It means banishing them. The Quran doesn’t say that they should be sent to Shiraz to enjoy the weather. They should be sent to the high seas – we can find some wreck of a ship – and they should spend the rest of their lives there until they die.
[…]
People ‘who wage war [against Allah]’ are those in society who use weapons – firearms, cold weapons, even stones – in order to jeopardize the public security and cause fear for no reason.
[…]
Once they are arrested, repentance is no longer acceptable. This is the position of the Quran.
[…]
When someone establishes a center for criminal activity… I don’t know what it is called… They organize parties for men and women, where there is much obscenity…
Interviewer: Is this a Quranic verse?
Abolfazl Bahrampur: This is what the commentators say, when they describe the types of people who wage war against Allah. This is another type.
[…]
According to the Quran, the punishment of the people we arrested is that they be slaughtered. They must not be killed with a single bullet, and that’s it. After all, they would like if they could die quickly.
[…]
First, they should go through all these torments and they should be crucified for all the people to see, so that the people who wait behind the scenes for America’s orders will see that these people were hanged and they will serve as an example for others.
[…]
[The Kharijites] caught a woman in the street, and asked her: ‘Do you accept Ali [as your leader]?’ The woman said: ‘Of course. He’s my imam.’ The woman was pregnant. They slit her belly open, took the fetus out, and killed the woman in a horrific way. By doing this, they jeopardized the security of society. The Emir of Believers [Ali] fought them and killed 4,000 of them. Do you know what he said when he was done? He said: If I kill 4,000 for the sake of the public’s security, it’s not exaggerated. Get it? If we kill 10,000 Iranians who serve as the enemy’s infantry it will not be an exaggeration, in light of that verse. Security is very important. Without security, there can be nothing. This is very important. This is the opinion of the Emir of the Believers and after all, we are Shiites. Many non-Shiites also act this way.
Interviewer: Okay.
Abolfazl Bahrampur: I even see non-Muslims in the world who act this way.
Wellington says
The love, compassion, tolerance and understanding exhibited by Muslims never stops.
gravenimage says
+1
Jayell says
What a wonderfully understated condemnation from Wellington, spoken like a true civilised gentleman. This Bahrampur specimen ia clearly an out-and-out psychopath in a society of psychopaths openly inspired and motivated by the biggest psycho- and socio-pathic pseudo-religious fraud of all time. Even the Nazis would have kept a lid on their baser instincts better than this. By the way, Bahrampur’s linguistic logic is incoherent; “If we kill 10,000 of them it will not be an exxaggeration” doesn’t really make proper sense. Perhap’s someone’s a little bit intellectually challenged as well as apparently being near-certifiable?
mortimer says
Indeed. Jayell says it well: ‘a society of psychopaths openly inspired and motivated by the biggest psychopath’. When they imitate Mohammed , Muslims take on a mentally ill man’s symptoms.
Several medical doctors have read the biography of Mohammed and reading his multiple symptoms, have diagnosed a number of untreated illnesses, including the delusional disease of temporal lobe epilepsy.
Aisha (the child bride of Mohammed) diagnosed his psychopathic tendencies: “His eye wept for no one.” -Tabari VIII: 40.
When Muslims imitate Mohammed, they imitate a psychopath and untreated epileptic. Most Muslims cannot bring themselves to act as absurdly as Mohammed … they would consider Mohammed sick if they met him today.
Michael Copeland says
The learned expert quotes the Koran (seemingly not known by the interviewer).
Two comments about the Koran:
“just the rantings of a schizophrenic” – Sebastian Faulks
“I have been unable to discover in it one single idea of value” – Arthur Schopenhauer
https://gatesofvienna.net/2019/11/book-reviews-the-koran/
gravenimage says
Thanks for that excellent link from the Gates of Vienna, Michael.
Carol the 1st says
Crazy, sadistic and very scared shows between the lines.
Carol the 1st says
The poor and viciously threatened Iranian people. I often notice on JW that there’s much sympathy for Iranian freedom seekers but many are skeptical and stymied about the overall picture and prospects. Christopher Hitchens traveled to some very dangerous places in his lifetime e.g. Iraq, North Korea, Yugoslavia, and Iran etc. and he makes some fascinating and strong comments in this gem from The Hitchens Archives. His comments on Iran begin at 27:17 and go to 35:12 but Q&A follows to end and most discussions center upon Iran. (near the end there’s mention of such things as ‘keeping an eye on Nigeria” and also the criminal nature of the Iranian mullahs. There happens to be a 2009 follow-up on The Axis of Evil, but I haven’t watched it yet):
Christopher Hitchens – [2006] – The axis of evil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYYcmJWeo3g
No Muzzies Here says
Not only does this religion command the murder of anyone who leaves it, but also anyone who protests the actions of the Islamic government. It’s extremely hard to see the distinction between Islam, the religion, and Islam, the political system. (There is no difference!)
melek-ric says
Abolfazl Bahrampur quotes 5:33 with glee and relish, since it suits the regime’s purposes under the circumstances. Yet, if he were trying to convince gullible Kuffar of Islam’s benign character and peaceful intentions he would be sagaciously relating the preceding Sura 5:32 – “…whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land – it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one – it is as if he had saved mankind entirely.”
More Muslim hypocrisy of course, but at least we see an Islamic scholar letting his mask slip, giving a rare citation of 5:33 in all its writhing, bloody horror.
mortimer says
Abolfazl Bahrampur is a sick sadist who enjoys causing and watching suffering.
Michael Copeland says
Normally that tiresome bit that begins “unless for….” is thoughtfully omitted.
This is how it was spoken in Oldham City Council Islamic prayer:
https://archive.christianconcern.com/our-concerns/islam/islamic-prayers-in-oldham-council
rubiconcrest says
Islam vs the West in black and white. The Department of State should publish ads across the USA with this interview and let it speak for itself. They can’t be accused of Islamophobia if it comes from the Islamic state of Iran.
Krishna says
He is sick And has lot of blood thirsty fantasies despite being old man
Anjuli Pandavar says
Dear Muslims,
How do you react to this Muslim expert on the Qur’an and his detailed exegesis of your holy book as it pertains to those who have had enough of the Islamic Republic’s long-standing abuse of them? Do you react with jubilant approval? Perhaps with calm agreement? Perhaps you are relieved that at last something is being done, perhaps to set an example to others? Perhaps you are uncomfortable but it is the Qur’an and the Qur’an can only be right? Whichever of those, you share this man’s ethical depravity and need not worry. You are a Muslim, secure in your faith. Alhamdullillah. However…
If you feel in any way that something is seriously wrong here, even if you don’t know what it is, then you are already far higher than this depraved monster and all who feel that what he is advocating is right. Animals would have to sink quite a bit lower before they conceive of deliberately torturing another animal to death, and much further below that still to regard such behaviour as holy. If you think there is something wrong with what you’ve read in this article, then I have only one question for you. Why are you still associated with such a vile religion? Why are you still a Muslim?
If animals could choose a religion, they would not choose Islam. No animal does what you have read above, no animal. If you are a Muslim who is sickened by what you’ve read above, then you have *humanity* and do not belong in Islam. Be glad for that, for you have within you the means of escaping the nightmare that this Qur’an expert lives in. Deny your own humanity and remain a lurking shadow inside his nightmare, for that is all you’ll ever be. Cherish your own precious humanity and escape. Escape now. Leave Islam.
Every animal on earth is better than what the Qur’an expects of you. You are most certainly better than that. Leave Islam. Millions have. You will not be alone. Leave Islam to the sub-animals for whom mere killing is not enough, for whom killing must be monstrous, depraved, the kind of killing that even animals will never do, for Allah to be happy. You deserve to walk this earth in a better condition than that. Leave Islam to the monsters and the lurking shadows. Leave Islam. Do it now. Join your fellow human beings. You have suffered enough. Come, join us. Leave Islam.
commonsense says
Amen.
Carol the 1st says
Well stated Anjuli and we should hope they’ll support a free country as strongly as they can.
Anjuli Pandavar says
Dear Muslims,
How do you react to this Muslim expert on the Qur’an and his detailed exegesis of your holy book as it pertains to those who have had enough of the Islamic Republic’s long-standing abuse of them? Do you react with jubilant approval? Perhaps with calm agreement? Perhaps you are relieved that at last something is being done, perhaps to set an example to others? Perhaps you are uncomfortable but it is the Qur’an and the Qur’an can only be right? Whichever of those, you share this man’s ethical depravity and need not worry. You are a Muslim, secure in your faith. Alhamdullillah. However…
If you feel in any way that something is seriously wrong here, even if you don’t know what it is, then you are already far higher than this depraved monster and all who feel that what he is advocating is right. Animals would have to sink quite a bit lower before they conceive of deliberately torturing another animal to death, and much further below that still to regard such behaviour as holy. If you think there is something wrong with what you’ve read in this article, then I have only one question for you. Why are you still associated with such a vile religion?
If animals could choose religions, they would not choose Islam. No animal does what you have read above, no animal. Why are you still a Muslim? if you are a Muslim who is sickened by what you’ve read above, then you have *humanity* and do not belong in Islam. Be glad for that, for you have within you the means of escaping the nightmare that this Qur’an expert lives in. Deny your own humanity and remain a lurking shadow inside his nightmare, for that is all you’ll ever be. Cherish your own precious humanity and escape. Escape now. Leave Islam. Every animal on earth is better than what the Qur’an expects of you. You are most certainly better than that. Leave Islam. Millions have. You will not be alone. Leave Islam to the sub-animals for whom mere killing is not enough, for whom killing must be monstrous, depraved, the kind of killing that even animals will never do. You deserve to walk this earth in a better condition than that. Leave Islam to the monsters and the lurking shadows. Leave Islam. Do it now. Join your fellow human beings. You have suffered enough. Come, join us. Leave Islam.
James Lincoln says
As far as I can tell, Abolfazl Bahrampur’s interpretation of the Koran is accurate.
Therein lies the problem…
Wellington says
Nailed it, James. Sure wish a hell of a lot more non-Muslims, i.e., we “vilest of creatures” {Sura 98:6}, would comprehend what you do.
Best of the Holiday Season to you and yours, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year and all that good stuff (though I suspect 2020 is going to be a very tumultuous year, to put it mildly).
Freedom once again hangs in the balance and is quite fragile, but then it always has been. Islam means to terminate it, as does the Left and your standard authoritarians like Putin and the thugs running China. A mortal threat to liberty, this despicable trinity, most definitely. Take care in a world which needs an enormous amount of care (but certainly not CAIR).
FYI says
“I suspect 2020 is going to be a tumultuous year”
Yes,no doubt the Religion of “Peace” will be spreading its “Peace” and its intolerance and the absence of Love and ill-will to all the non-muslim members of mankind aided by the Lefties,the Democrats and the Dhimmis.
But as that infidel song says..
“There may be trouble ahead,
But while there is music and moonlight and love and romance*
Let’s face the music and dance”
……And BEER:Good islamically unfriendly infidel beer..
James Lincoln says
Wellington,
Hope you had a very Merry Christmas – and are looking forward to a very Happy New Years!
Wishing you and yours all the very best in 2020!
gravenimage says
Yes–this is what Islam teaches.
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
James Lincoln says, “As far as I can tell, Abolfazl Bahrampur’s interpretation of the Koran is accurate.”
No, not exactly. Compare it with Quran 5:33 as translated in
http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=5&verse=33
, which says that violators should have “their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides”, leaving it up to the caliph to decide between left hand/right foot, or right hand/left foot. But Imam Bahrampur specifies “The right hand along with the left foot.” What’s worse is his leniency: Rather than chopping off the limbs at the wrist and ankle, he says, “You need to chop off [only] four fingers on the right hand along with four toes on the left foot, and then you should release [these eight digits] back to society,” thereby allowing them to be surgically re-attached . A caliph who follows Bahrampur’s mollycoddling advice will be in danger of impeachment for violating the explicit instructions given in Quran 5:33.
FYI says
Questions for the scholars of islam..koranic experts
{Please note that ‘fidding the Arabic trick’ won’t work here}
1}”WE verily gave unto Moses the Scripture..” meaning the Torah{koran 2 v 87}
In the Torah are the Exodus 20 Listed commandments of God,one of which condemns MURDER {Exodus 20 v 13}:WHY are they missing in the koran?
{isn’t it convenient for allah the great deceiver that they not be formally listed?}
Why does the koran say it is OK to violate God’s Exodus 20 listed commandments and commit murder k2:191?
What was the point of God giving His laws only to moses only for al lah{“the BEST OF DECEIVERS” k3:54}to come along in the 7th c and preach the OPPOSITE?
Was allah out the day God gave the Commandments?
Isn’t it because allah claims to be the author of the Bible{koran 3:3} but is clearly lying ?…because it defeats the whole purpose of the Torah for allah in the koran to teach that it is OK to violate God’s Official Laws given in the Torah isn’t it?
The Bible preaches OBEDIENCE to God’s Exodus 20 Commandments.
The koran preaches DISOBEDIENCE to God’s Exodus 20 commandments.
The Bible and koran were both written by men BUT the Bible’s authors were guided by the Spirit of God’s Wisdom{an aspect of God that allah-laughably- tells his muslims NOT to believe in see koran 4:171}
The Bible shows the presence of God’s Spirit of wisdom.
The koran shows the absence of God’s Spirit of wisdom.
{An ex-muslim who is now a Christian,on looking back at the koran,should see this clearly:Where is the Holy Spirit in islam?Like the Golden Rule,the 2nd Chief Commandment of “love thy neighbor” notice how these are all MISSING in islam and the koran}
Since the koran is in defiance of God’s laws that means that the koran is wrong.
2}”WE bestowed upon [Jesus]the Gospel..” koran 5 v 46
In the Gospel is the GOLDEN RULE{in Christianity AND Judaism}
“Do unto other what you want them to do for you;this is the MEANING of the LAW and the teachings of the prophets”
MATTHEW 7 v 12
Explain HOW allah completely missed that will you as it is not in islam?
Good luck with that ….
Big clue:al lah is “the BEST of deceivers” k3:54 and is obviously NOT the same as the Judeo-Christan Biblical God.
T
gravenimage says
Of course, Muslims claim that the Torah–and Bible–used to be perfectly Islamic before they were “corrupted” by Jews and Christians, never mind that this is utterly false.
D3F1ANT says
Muzzies are such warm, compassionate people…
Elphy says
Of course D3F1ANT, that’s why we all just LOVE THEM !! We spend countless hours reading about their exploits and their plans for all of us – why would we NOT love them?? .. UGH
gravenimage says
Iran: Qur’an expert says Qur’an commands that protesters “should die in agony, not merely be killed”
……………………..
Yes–this bloody savagery is completely Islamic.
Eur says
So peaceful…
Anjuli Pandavar says
Dear Muslim,
How do you react to this Muslim expert on the Qur’an and his detailed exegesis of your holy book as it pertains to the long-suffering people of Iran who have had enough of the Islamic Republic’s abuse of them? Do you react with jubilant approval? Perhaps you find yourself in calm agreement? Perhaps you are relieved that at last something is being done, perhaps to set an example to others? Perhaps your conviction is that none of this matters, because the Qur’an can only be right? Whichever it is, you share this man’s ethical depravity and need not worry. You are a Muslim, secure in your faith. Your iman is strong. Alhamdulillah.
However…
If you feel in any way that something is seriously wrong here, even if you don’t know what it is, then you are already far higher than this depraved monster and all who feel that what he is advocating is right. Animals would have to sink quite a bit lower before they conceive of deliberately torturing another animal to death, and much further below that still to regard such behaviour as holy. If you think there is something wrong with what you’ve read in this article, then I have only one question for you. Why are you still associated with such a vile religion? Why are you still a Muslim?
If animals could choose a religion, they would not choose Islam. No animal that kills insists that its prey must die a slow and agonising death. No animal is that low. And by the way, pigs don’t even kill.
Dear Muslim, most instructive here is that the verse this sub-animal is so semantic about (Firstly, ‘they shall be slaughtered.’ [The Quran] does not say that they should be ‘killed,’), verse 5:33, follows directly after the darling verse, the go-to verse, of Islamic apologists, verse 5:32, that “proves” how wonderful and peaceful and harmless Islam is: “whoever killed a human being, shall be looked upon as though he had killed all mankind; and that whoever saved a human life shall be regarded as though he had saved all mankind.” Keith Ellison even did the whole Muslim welling-up-with-tears thing when he berated critics of Islam for ignoring 5:32. We do not ignore 5:32. We just don’t hide the truth behind it. The sub-animal star of the TV show above deserves credit for at least being honest, a quality that is extremely rare in Muslims.
If you are a Muslim who is disturbed by, “Ahhh. One, they should die in agony, not merely be killed. That’s what the verse says,” then you have *humanity* and do not belong in Islam. Be glad for that, for you have within you the means of escaping the nightmare that this Qur’an expert lives in. Deny your own humanity and remain a lurking shadow inside his nightmare, for that is all you’ll ever be. Cherish your own precious humanity and escape. Escape now. Leave Islam. Every animal on earth is better than what the Qur’an expects of you. You are most certainly better than the Qur’an. Leave Islam. Millions have. You will not be alone. Leave Islam to those for whom mere killing is not enough, for whom killing must be monstrous, depraved, the kind of killing that even animals will never do. You deserve to walk this earth in a better condition than that. Leave Islam to the monsters and the lurking shadows who pretend it is not so. Leave Islam. Do it now. Join your fellow human beings. You have suffered enough in your struggle with yourself. Come, join humanity. For your own sake and that of humanity, leave Islam.
mortimer says
Psychiatrist Dr. Wafa Sultan describes men like Abolfazl Bahrampur in the following statement:
“When I examined the Koran and hadiths under my microscope, I came to the absolute conviction that it is impossible…impossible…for any human being to read the biography of Mohammed and believe in it, and then emerge a psychologically and mentally healthy person.”
In other words, Abolfazl Bahrampur exhibits the mentally ill symptoms of Mohammed.
gravenimage says
Spot on, Mortimer.
Arnold Jackson says
“… killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land.”
Notice how the murderous bastards conveniently overlook the last option?
Carol the 1st says
Flies in a bottle and wings to be pulled off?
George Jarrold says
We should expect nothing else from devil worshippers. Their god is Lah the Moon god also known as Baal. The Lord God expelled these people from the promised land and gave it to the Jews. Evil begets evil.
Giacomo Latta says
Well, let’s get started, Bahrampur. Go into the kitchen and ask one of your wives for a knife. Then run into the street and attempt to do your hands and feet on opposite sides schtick. Talk is cheap.
vtology says
We should use our heavy weapons on moslem regimes wherever they sprout up.
OLD GUY says
It appears that the only answer to islam is to kill or be killed. While that is highly unpopular in the thinking of the western leadership, it may become the only solution to our survival. I don’t want to kill anyone but if my freedom of religion, speech and life style are being threatened I for one will fight.
gravenimage says
I think Islam needs to be isolated again. When it was, we were almost entirely safe from Jihad.
Carol the 1st says
And forewarn them that if they become overpopulated we won’t send over any Care Packages.
Anjuli Pandavar says
Everyone,
I apologise for seemingly having posted the same thing three times. This is not so. It looked like nothing was happening, so I tried again. Then waited for a long while and still it wasn’t there, so I tried again. Today, they’re all there!
I’m sorry. I’m wasn’t trying to abuse the site.
Michael Copeland says
We understand. This phenomenon happens from time to time.
Keep up the good work.