Never mind that it’s true. In Islamic law, it is considered a good thing to conceal the faults of a fellow Muslim, as Muhammad said: “The servant (who conceals) the faults of others in this world, Allah would conceal his faults on the Day of Resurrection” (Sahih Muslim 32.6267). The ordinary understanding of slander in the West is that it involves making false charges that defame another person. But in Islamic law, the definition of slander doesn’t involve falsehood. The Shafi’i manual of Islamic law Reliance of the Traveller defines “slander” as “to mention anything concerning a person that he would dislike.” Nothing is said about whether or not what is said is true — only that the person would dislike it. And as the Qur’an warns, “Woe unto every slandering traducer” (104:1).
“Pak Paper Said London Attacker Is Of ‘Pak Origin’. Mob Attacks Offices,” Press Trust of India, December 3, 2019:
Dozens of protesters carrying banners and chanting slogans against a Pakistani newspaper tried to storm its offices in Islamabad, enraged over the leading daily’s news report in which the London Bridge attacker was identified as a “man of Pakistani origin”.
The Dawn newspaper in its headline had identified Usman Khan, a convicted Islamist terrorist from Pakistan-occupied Kashmir who stabbed two people to death in a terror attack on London Bridge last week, as “UK national of Pakistani origin”, unlike many other local dailies which said he was born and brought up in Britain and had no link with Pakistan.
A few dozen unidentified people on Monday staged a protest outside Dawn offices in Islamabad over publication of a news report regarding the ethnicity of the London Bridge attacker of last week, the paper reported on Tuesday.
They were apparently angered by the headline of newspaper last week in which it identified Usman Khan as a man of Pakistani origin.
The angry mob, carrying banners and chanting slogans against the newspaper, remained outside the office building for nearly three hours, besieging the premises and making the staffers hostage, the report said.
They prevented the employees from entering or leaving the building and demanded a written apology. Some of the protesters also misbehaved with the newspaper as well as Dawn TV employees when they arrived at the office.
Security guards at the media house had to lock the gates to prevent the protesters from entering the premises before police and officers of the capital administration arrived.
After lengthy negotiations with the newspaper management in the presence of an assistant commissioner, the protesters finally agreed to disperse after hurling warnings….
CogitoErgoSum says
Have you seen the little piggies crawling in the dirt?
And for all the little piggies, life is getting worse
Always having dirt to play around in
Have you seen the bigger piggies in their starched white shirts?
You will find the bigger piggies stirring up the dirt
Always have clean shirts to play around in
In their sties with all their backing
They don’t care what goes on around
In their life, there’s something lacking
What they need’s a damn good whacking!
Everywhere there’s lots of piggies living piggy lives
You can see them out for dinner with their piggy wives
Clutching forks and knives to eat their ………..????? (anything but bacon)
George Harrison was a Hindu, wasn’t he?
revereridesagain says
Probably depended on when you asked him.
CogitoErgoSum says
You are right. Harrison was raised a Roman Catholic but he became a Hare Krishna follower. I think maybe by the time he died he had somehow managed to combine parts of both religions but I’m just guessing. His ashes were scattered at the confluence of the Ganges, Yamuna and Saraswati rivers in India so I’d say he was mostly Hindu. Loved hearing him play guitar. May he rest in peace.
Gart says
“to eat their bacon” is the correct lyric. It makes sence, terms like ‘bringing home the bacon’ are famous British idioms.
FYI says
3 little islamic piggies
one little piggy abandoned islam and became an “apostate” atheist
one little piggy abandoned islam and became a christian
{And they both lived happily side by side}
But one little piggy stubbornly stayed with his islam,ended up in jail and blew himself up.And all on behalf of his god,a god who …..hates pigs.
gravenimage says
+1
Kenek says
” defines “slander” as “to mention anything concerning a person that he would dislike.” ”
An amazing number of moslems have no idea what words mean. When you take the stupidest and most vile man in the world and make him/it your idol bad things happen including the death of your brain.
Obviously no real person could be as evil and stupid as mohamed. Anyone like mohamed would have been put down as a child just like a mad dog. mohamed had to be invented.
James C says
Islam might work reasonably well in 7th-century Arabia. As a world-wide religion, centuries later, connecting with very different and (to be blunt) superior cultures, it works very poorly. Mo should have confined his attentions to Arabia – especially as the Koran professes to be a revelation, in Arabic, for Arabs.
gravenimage says
James, even in dark ages Arabia Islam was a disaster for Jews, Christians, women, and all other non-Muslims.
Infidel says
Yeah, in fact, pre-Islamic pagan Arabia (and I use the term ‘pagan’ loosely, since any records of an actual established religion would have been completely eviscerated by the Muslims later) was a far more civilized land than it was in its subsequent Islamic existence
gravenimage says
Agreed, Infidel.
b.a. freeman says
quite possibly, Kenek, but since muhammed is the al insan al kamil and uswa hasana (perfect man and model of conduct for every muslim male – females don’t count), his existence doesn’t matter. what matters is that pious muslims try to do what muhammed did – which is to lie, steal, rape, murder, and be a slaver. thus, we can expect every pious muslim to start his day with “WWMD?” and of course, he’ll answer that by raping his neighbor, killing a random stranger or 10, robbing a bank, raping little girls, raping little boys (not enough women for the pious of the ummah), letting contract hits on kuffar who dare to stand up to islam, and keep slaves in the basement.
invented or not, muhammed was a psychopathic example, one who should not be followed by any civilized person. and since islam is a gangsta sex and death cult, it is *NOT* followed by any civilized person; it is followed by the gang-bangers of islam, who make ms-13, pol pot, mao, stalin, and hitler look like pikers, even when they’re all put together.
gravenimage says
Fine post.
gravenimage says
Yes–this is “Ghiba”, often translated as “slander”, but actually meaning something quite different.
Niemoller says
LOL, what an evil place. The jihad murder’s family just transported his dead body to Pakistan to be buried. What a world of dishonesty and incompetence Muslims live in. All the fault of a faulty “faith”.
Westman says
We have people insulting the US and Christianity every day without going nuts.
The Pakistani response to a Paki terrorist, being accurately identified, is a true indicator of insecurity and the inexorable mirroring of Islam’s failure to be “the best of peoples”. A physical response is all they know; actually being children in adult bodies.
Diane Harvey says
“Pak Paper Said London Attacker Is Of ‘Pak Origin’. Mob Attacks Offices”
I understand the distinctions between Islamic slander and Western slander. But in this case why would the Paki Muslims be upset. Shouldn’t they be, to the contrary, more than happy that one of their own was committing jihad thereby assuring him of their version of paradise?
Unless, unless, Paki Muslims, like Muslims generally, know in their little black hearts that Western values are the better values.
Jayell says
“The Dawn newspaper (which suffered these wild attacks) in its headline had identified Usman Khan……as “UK national of Pakistani origin”, unlike many other local dailies which said he was born and brought up in Britain and had no link with Pakistan.
So deliberately-contrived self-deception and outright bare-faced lying in order to maintain an utterly spurious self-image of righteous respectability is quite in order to maintain basic civility, but simply stating an inconvenient fact that threatens to shatter these ludicrous pretentions provokes the sort of deranged super-spoilt-brat reaction that one would normally expect from a near-certifiable lunatic. Is this what people mean when they diplomatically refer to muslims’ ‘delicate sensibilities’? Their psychological equilibrium is so heavily dependent on their fantasy-world that one hint of cold reality will virtually send them all round the bend? And one is supposed to operate a civilised, productive, adult society with these specimens around? It certainly gives the term ‘asylum seekers’ a new meaning, because an ‘asylum’ is what a civilised society has to become in order to accommodate ‘citizens’ like this!
James C says
Presumably criticising a member of the *ummah* puts the – supremacist – religion in an unflattering light. Solution: “stay away from Islam”.
Keys says
Mob anger is Muslim virtue signaling. Violence is always justified and is the fault of those who stirred up the mischief.
Reminds me of “Leftist” mob journalism and the Democrat impeachment mob.
The founding fathers and prophets would be insulted if nothing is done.
sarc on/ Sadly, they are forced to do things they’d prefer not to do.
OREN WYSOCKI says
I think censorship is well entrenched in pakistan, and it will be difficult to save their souls, so that they might be written in the book of life. In G-d I trust.
Wellington says
Those who adhere to the religion of perpetual outrage have a lack of an “ordinary understanding” of a ton of things.
gravenimage says
Pakistan: Paper says London Bridge jihadi is of “Pakistani origin,” enraged Muslim mob tries to storm its offices
…………………..
Yet these same thugs probably laud his Jihad actions, Islam is not just ugly it is also irrational.
TKF says
I want to ask Muslims….What’s it like sucking ALL the time?
Mr. Cohen says
Pakistani Christian women being trafficked to China as Brides:
http://jewishworldreview.com/1219/christian_women_trafficed.php3
gravenimage says
Yes–terrible.
Andrew Cunningham says
I heard yesterday on The BBC, that his body had arrived in Pakistan for burial, at the family plot.
Michael Copeland says
Two points:
Firstly, these “demonstrations” are examples of mosque-attenders DOING AS INSTRUCTED.
Spontaneous individual or joint actions are not encouraged in Islam.
The whole point of “Submission” is CONTROL.
Secondly, though a “person of Pakistani origin” may have been born and brought up in the UK it is inaccurate to claim that he has “no link to Pakistan”. He will almost certainly live in a predominantly muslim community, of predominantly Pakistani origin. He may already have a foreign Pakistani bride arranged for him to import who is a cousin. Many of his extended family will remain in Pakistan and be in frequent contact.
infidel says
Do crime and terror but then play victim when U are rightfully accused
Giacomo Latta says
”Dozens of protesters”?
It seems like Pakistani corporate Islam can’t decide whether to run with a ”local home country boy does good” theme or a”death to country that badmouths muslim” one. Where are the hundreds of thousands of unwashed in the streets all brandishing identical placards with broken-English two-word opinions?
gravenimage says
Yep.