“Sources told ABC News that investigators are working to determine if the shooter was acting out because of religious or ideological reasons or if there was some sort of problem or hostility that developed in the course of the training at Pensacola.”
All right. But there is also the fact that he wrote an online rant in which he “expresses hatred toward Americans because of crimes against Muslims and humanity as well as US support for Israel.”
Authorities are trying to determine whether or not Alshamrani actually wrote it, and that’s a legitimate question. But if he really did, there should be no doubt about his motive. There still will be, however.
“Mohammed Alshamrani: What we know about suspected Pensacola naval station shooter,” ABC 11, December 6, 2019:
PENSACOLA, Fla. — U.S. law enforcement officials were digging into the background of the suspected Florida naval station shooter Friday, to determine the Saudi Air Force officer’s motive and whether it was connected to terrorism.
As questions swirled about the shooting, which left four people dead and multiple people wounded, officials identified the suspect as 2nd Lt. Mohammed Saeed Alshamrani, an aviation officer in the Saudi Air Force. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation.
Alshamrani was attending the aviation school at the base, one of hundreds of international military members who are receiving training there.
Armed with a semi-automatic handgun with an extended magazine, the shooter opened fire in a classroom building on Friday morning. He was apparently firing at random and at one point was slowed when somebody barricaded a door, allowing others to flee out of the building.
The attack left four people dead, including the assailant, and multiple people wounded.
Sources told ABC News that investigators are working to determine if the shooter was acting out because of religious or ideological reasons or if there was some sort of problem or hostility that developed in the course of the training at Pensacola.
Investigators have found what purports to be an online screed written by the shooter and are working to determine if it is legitimate. In it, the writer expresses hatred toward Americans because of crimes against Muslims and humanity as well as US support for Israel….
Walter Sieruk says
The Islamic kingdom of Saudi Arabia in no friend of any Western nation, Saudi Arabia is best defined as a kingdom of Islamic hate
As one Arab scholar who had lived in a Middle Eastern country, for many years revealed “Saudi madrassa notably teach hatred and condemnation of the West and non-Muslims” and “The Saudi Government also provides free textbooks to Islamic schools throughout the world . many of the Saudi- Issued textbook’s contain wording that encourages hatred and intolerance for non-Muslims.” [1]
Saudi Arabia in many ways is no better than Iran.
[1] THEY MUST BE STOPPED by Brigitte Gabriel, page 106
Walter Sieruk says
The Islamic kingdom of Saudi Arabia has not and will not spare any of its vast oil wealth as to use its financial resources to fund and promote the advancement of Islam by and through the jihad. By this it means both the stealth jihad and even the subtle support violent jihad.
As explained, for example in the book HOW ISLAM PLANS TO CHANGE THE WORLD by William Wagner. For on pages 109, 110. The reader is informed that “The Wall Street journal on April 15, 2003 published an article titled ‘In law Seminars, A Saudi Group Spreads Extremism.’ The article began by saying ‘In late February more than 300 young men from across Europe gathered for a weekend seminar on Islamic Law put on by Al-Waqf al-Islaami Foundation.’ The article went on to explain that the most famous graduates from the seminar were half a dozen members of the group of young men from Hamburg, Germany, who plotted the September 11, attacks. The language of the was Dutch, but ‘the message was imported from Saudi Arabia, via Saudi books and lecturers who taught a strict orthodox interpretation of Islam.’ “
Further on the very same page of 110 the information is given that “TIME MAGAZINE , in an article on Saudi Arabia: Inside the Kingdom,’ stated ‘Apart from channeling money to foundations that have assisted terrorist groups, Saudis have for years supported institutions abroad the propagate Wahhabism.’”
In addition to all this, in the book of the title of THE HISTORY OF JIHAD FROM MUHAMMAD TO ISIS, by Robert Spencer on pages 333 through 337.Mr Spencer provides valid information of the subject of “ The Saudi involvement in September 11.”
So with that Islamic regime of Saudi Arabia and its oil money support the different type of the jihad, both stealth and the violent kind, with its Islamic agenda advancement and spread , influence and infiltration of the Western nations ,this kingdom of Saudi Arabia is no friend at all of America or any other country of the West.
CogitoErgoSum says
Muslims are commanded by their god to fight against Infidels until they submit completely to Islam. The Koran tells Muslims not to take Infidels for allies. Even if a person does not believe in the Koran it should not be ignored that Muslims do. Why in the world would anyone, knowing this, trust a Muslim to be an ally or a friend? It’s insane to do that and here we have proof of it … once again. So go ahead, keep doing the same thing over and over again and keep expecting a different result. Prove just how insane you can be.
Educate yourselves concerning Islam. You don’t really have to be an Einstein to understand it.
Wellington says
D’ya think?
CogitoErgoSum says
I think there is a very good chance this guy will be labeled as suffering from some kind of mental illness (other than Islam.)
Rob says
“expresses hatred toward Americans because of crimes against Muslims and humanity as well as US support for Israel.”
Wouldn’t this get him off the course immediately?
Ray Jarman says
As usual, the press and unfortunately, the government are endeavoring to provide excuses for this pernicious subhuman by blaming his experience at Pensacola as a “problem or hostility that developed in the course of the training at Pensacola” rather than that he expressed “hatred toward Americans because of crimes against Muslims and humanity as well as US support for Israel.” These horrific act are going to keep reoccurring until good people realize that as Erdogan stated, “There is no radical Islam; Islam is Islam.” I am sick and tired of the press and especially the courts providing cover for this violence by attributing it to mental problems and if these acts are a result of mental dysfunction, then Islam is the cause and should be placed on the list of incurable deceases by the WHO and outlawed especially in all non-Muslim dominated nations.
Rufolino says
Shocking “Islamophobia” !
abad says
It seems that Moslems like this jihadi are full of venom, to be sure, Islam incites hatred, destruction and killing, there is nothing peaceful about Islam at all.
James C says
It’s peaceful if the truly peaceful state is the state in which there are no non-Muslims. They are what cause unpeace. Solution: get rid of all non-Islam.
The charnel-house is very peaceful.
unbeliever1 says
Training to enemy in hi- tek warfare.
unbeliever1 says
Further information shows that other Saudis were filming while the shootings were taking place. An indication that they knew what was going down.
https://nypost.com/2019/12/07/six-saudis-questioned-over-deadly-pensacola-naval-base-shooting/
Debi Brand says
“…..ibn Kathir provides in his tafsir, ‘Allah states that there are disbelievers, hypocrites, and believers among the bedouins’ (Surah At-Tawbah 9: 97-99).”
“Moreover … the believers among that group will be those who live by that written in ‘the Book of Allah,’ they will be those who live by all in the Sunnah of ‘Allah’s Messenger,’ lock, stock, and barrel of it.”
“Therefore,” it behooves us to “know, and know well, what orders and guidance are in those works, because they will be the orders the believer will follow ….”
What’s more, as we ought to well know, “at times the believers in ‘Allah’s Book,’” as it fits their goals, borrowing words from “al-Quran,” “ they hide within themselves what they dare not reveal to you” (Surah Al Imran: 154).
As in hide within themselves, they believe in every word and every command in “Allah’s Book.” Conceal, what fruit such a belief yields.
Do so with deathly mastered patience.
Until, that is, the “Hour of Power” approaches, the moment when truth is revealed draws nigh; do so, until the moment for death-dealing is right — the dinner party over, the camera men in place — “opportunity ripe for the taking,” and then, “the mask they hurl aside.
“Sahih of Al-Bukhari speaks to that concept this way: ‘Abu Ad-Darda said, “We give a smile for some people while our hearts curse them”’ (Bukhari, Book of Al-Adab [Good Manners]).”
And while their Islam-darkened souls, we could add to that hadith, long, pine, for the moment the hands of the “believer” shed the blood of the “unbelievers.”
http://www.debibrand.org/unforgivable-negligence/
Mark Berlinger says
I suspect Commander Bill Gibson has no clue about what Muslims believe. Obama ended the training of American military personnel about what motivates our observant Muslim enemy.
Mark Berlinger says
With all due respect Capt. Timothy F. Kinsella Jr., the base’s commanding officer, couldn’t recognize Islamic terrorism when it arrived on his base.
James C says
No, jihadis are totally secular. Here, the bridge is free.
tgusa says
Sad truth is what he expressed in his rant could easily have been written by any leftist democrat.
gravenimage says
Pensacola jihadi ranted about “crimes against Muslims,” investigators trying to determine if he had religious motive
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More fake Muslim victim-mongering.
tgusa says
Perhaps he watched the anti American alphabet news networks coverage and then was incensed by what he heard. Hence his victim-mongering talking points. Isn’t it wonderful that so many want to kill us just by listening to the left in America? Not that they wouldn’t want to kill us anyway but the coverage does reinforce their reasoning and it hardens their resolve. The terrible thing is that the left is engaged in the most anti islamic life styles and behavior in our country.
gravenimage says
Yes–Muslims would want to kill us anyway–but the clueless media spouting Muslim apologia is not helping.
Naildriver says
‘That his acts were filmed by accomplices, certainly establishes this as Islamic terrorism. Even with this knowledge I saw a white house cabinet official resist that ‘terrorist’ designation with some indignant self righteousness.
What do they want?
Islam is a nation, not merely a religion; and, that’s the fine point that is too difficult a concept to our government officials, on both sides of the isle to grasp — and, the traitors are well aware of the need to keep it so.
These are the government people who should be arrested under directives interpreted from the Constitution, in approval from that same document, and fking publicly executed.
Adam Dalgliesh says
There does not seem to be any reason to question the authenticity of the “manifesto” pr “screed” posted by Alshamrani a few hours before the atrocity. It was on a twitter account used by al-Shamrani since 2012. Who else could have posted it? And why wouldn’t Alshamrani have posted it shortly before committing the murders? Murderers and terrorists often leave messages behind explaining the motives for their intended crimes. The very fact that the “authenticity” of the note is in question reveals the unwillingness of the FBI and the State Department to face the facts.
FYI says
Could there be a religious motive to a MUSLIM following the precepts of his iSLAMIC book and the example of his iSLAMIC prophet in his religion of iSLAM?
Well,let’s see…
The man was a JIHADIST SAUDI MUSLIM who subscribes to..iSLAMic beliefs
1}the koran{the “holy” book of iSLAM}gives him the instructions.
2}the sunnah of the prophet of iSLAM ,muhammed{ a self-confessed TERRORIST}gives him the ‘moral’ example
3}iSLAM’S Jihadist political-religious ideology gives him the freedom to act.
This might appear to be a difficult one for the cops..but it isn’t really that difficult is it?
you have method-opportunity{“slay the unbelievers wherever ye find them k2:191}-MOTIVE{clue:iSLAM}and the culprit who is MUSLIM.
2 possible deductions:
A This definitely DOES have something to do with islam
B.This definitely does NOT have anything to do with islam
{options:mental illness,he was a victim of “islamophobia” or what leftists call “white privilege” etc}
The police:”rightey-oh:This couldn’t possibly have anything to do with islam because islam is the religion of peace”
toomanyhobbies says
Hello! How about the 3 Saudi’s that knew the where and when so they could video his act of terrorism!!!