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gravenimagesays
Robert Spencer video: “The two-state solution is a myth”
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Yes, it is. Both Hamas and Fatah have the full destruction of Israel in their charters. Any “two state solution” would only be a stepping stone to destroying Israel.
Moshesays
If the two-state solution is a myth, then why is the brilliant Rabbinic leadership of the US Reform Movement in such ardent support? I refer you to the distinguished Rabbi Rick Jacobs. His advocacy is in accord with the political wisdom of many former US Presidents who have studied the issue deeply. Can these astute and gifted leaders–hailing from diverse faiths and backgrounds–all be wrong? President Obama has in particular taught us to follow the long arc of history as it bends towards justice–a beautiful and compelling insight.
The NYT, WP, NPR and CNN are all in agreement. What more needs to be said?
FYIsays
“Astute and gifted leaders”?
surely not barack hussein obama ?Seriously?The man who was given the Nobel peace prize by the elite even though he didn’t deserve it?
The worst POTUS in American History?
“What more needs to be said”
That some lefty Jews and blind rabbis don’t get Irony or realize just what islam has in store for the Jews{Sahih muslim #6985}:they don’t want peace,the want to destroy Israel.
Lauren Hermannsays
Amen!
mortimersays
The two-state solution is no myth, because it has already been imposed. The supposedly smart rabbis would increase their intelligence by reading Robert Spencer’s book, rather than pretending to be know-it-alls.
They might change their minds and so might you ‘Moshe’ or whoever you are.
Brains without accurate information is of very small value.
Let your rabbis debate Robert Spencer and see whose brains are bigger.
mortimersays
‘Moshe’, none of your alleged ‘brainiacs’ are capable of debating the facts with Robert Spencer, are they? They would be defeated in minutes, wouldn’t they? How ‘smart’ is that?
By cravenly freeing from debate, your alleged ‘brainiacs’ have already lost by default. You have lost. Your comments here are nonsensical.
Perhaps you will learn something by reading JihadWatch daily. A real intellectual reads and changes his mind when the facts are so conclusive … as what you read here every day.
gravenimagesays
I thought the “Two State Solution” sounded like a great idea–when I first heard about it when I was 17 and didn’t yet know that Muslims had no intention of making peace with Israel.
The trolling “Moshe” know doubt knows this.
Nathan Dunningsays
Yes the Two State Solution is Dead& Buried and it’s just a matter of time for the rest of the World to accept it. After the next War against Israel we’ll see the Jewish nation reclaim the rest of it’s Homeland.
Manuele Luisays
IT’LL NEVER EVENTUATE OR HAPPEN. THE MUSLIMS WILL NEVER ACCEPT ANYTHING OTHER THEN BE GIVEN THE WHOLE PROSPEROUS LAND AND HARD WORK OF ISRAEL. AND EVEN IF GIVEN, WHAT ARE THEY GONNA DO WITH IT. THEY (MUSLIMS) ARE SO DUMB THAT THEY CAN’T FUNCTION BECAUSE THEY’RE BE TOO BUSY FIGHTING AMONG THEMSELVES FOR TOTAL CONTROL.
Norman Msays
The book is on its way.
JHLsays
Since its inception, the two-state solution has never worked. Islam accepts no compromise. Islam is a totalitarian ideology that brings nothing but destruction to civilization.
Eursays
Two state solution for France.
Blurb1000says
What about three?
gravenimagesays
I don’t want to see France ceding her territory to Muslims.
Jack Dawkinssays
One state for all. One vote for all!
Infidelsays
Absolutely no! There is no reason to subject the Jews of Israel to a murderous Muslim population that’s even more extreme than the Saudis or the Iranians (and that’s saying something). Just look at the riots going on in India right now b’cos Gandhi/Nehru were so stupid that they allowed Muslims to stay on in India even though Hindus were expelled from Pakistan.
The ‘Palestinian’ Arabs need to be expelled from Judea and Samaria: let them go to any of those vast underpopulated Arab countries, such as Saudi Arabia, Libya, Qatar, Yemen, et al
Jack Dawkinssays
Typical Zionazi
Infidelsays
An amazing achievement for a Hindu who has no connections w/ that region, but supports the right of Jews to the place as the original inhabitants of the land (not b’cos they’re the chosen people or any of that)
gravenimagesays
It looks as though Jack Dawkins considers anyone who doesn’t want to see the destruction of civilized Israel to be a “Nazi”.
mortimersays
A Two State Solution was Implemented in 1923 with the establishment of the Emirate of Trans-Jordan. West Palestine and East Palestine (Emirate of Transjordan) were divided.
The Emirate of Transjordan (Arabic: Imarat Sharq al-Urdun lit. “Emirate of east Jordan”), officially known as the Amirate of Trans-Jordan, was a British protectorate established in April 1921.[
THE TWO-STATE SOLUTION HAS ALREADY BEEN IMPLEMENTED SINCE 1923 Britain without authorization from the League of Nations, illegally hived off 75% of Mandatory Palestine in 1923 and handed it to the emir. The British announced that this was a “temporary” measure, which they quietly and quickly made “permanent.”
There are already two ‘Palestines’ … and thus. there is already a two-state solution. The Arabs got 75% of Mandatory Palestine. They didn’t like the name back then.
There’s a Jewish homeland or there isn’t, ‘Moshe’. Appeasement won’t work to stop the terrorism.
gravenimagesays
+1
Walter Sieruksays
The ‘two state solution” is not really a valid idea and not a genuine solution. It will definitely not stop this awful Israeli –Muslim land conflict.
Thus a “two state solution” is out of the question. This is actually just right and fine .This is because a “two state solution” not really a “solution” but an Islamic ploy of deception , a smokescreen and hoax and a fraud.
For example those recent Hamas rocketed attacks in to Israel from Gaza reveals that even the idea of some people of dividing Jerusalem as well as other parts of the State of Israel between the Jewish people of the Muslim/ Arabs is nothing but folly. To engage the madness of such “talks” is a hoax and a farce .This is because in the so called “negotiations” between the heads of the Jewish nation of Israel and the leaders of the “Palestinians” the Muslim /Arabs the “Palestinian” leaders will speak the truth only when in happens to fit their agenda. The rest of the time the will be speaking half-truths and outright lies. For their goal is to obtain all of the land of the State of Israel ,.Even in it takes much time and it means getting the land piece by piece. So those “peace talks” are a hoax. For the “Palestinian”leaders are employing what is the Islamic doctrine of Taqiyya . Which is the Islamic dogma that lying and deception are good things to do as long as it’s done for the cause of the advancement of Islam. The insidious scheme is part of the stealth jihad .Otherwise known as “Islamic Gradualism.” This sly and something subtle strategy of disingenuous speech, lying deception of achieving the goal of all the land of Israel a war ploy that will be a disaster if the heads of the State of Israel are foolish enough to agree to divide the land of Israel with Muslim /Arabs ,the “Palestinians.” For if such a “peace dialogue” results in a divided land, the outcome will literally be murder. For “Palestinian” leader will allow the jihadists use that land as a base to launch murderous rocked attacks in to Israel. As for example, Hamas of Gaza and Hezbollah in Lebanon.
Such false hopes for peace which are based on the foundation of lies are nothing new when it comes to Israel . For example, the Bible in Psalm 55:20, 21. Reads “Such men do violence to those at peace with them and break their promised word; their speech is smoother the butter but their thoughts are of war.” [N.E.B.]
Jay Campbellsays
the only solution is financial resettlement of these current day Palestinians whose fathers/grandfathers flooded into the British Mandate in the 1930. Thus, the vast majority of these Arabs are not indigenous to the land between the Jordan river and the Mediterranean. Israel comprises about 1 % of the total land mass of the Middle East. How can anyone deny that there is room in the 99% Arab countries to absorb the 5 -8 current day palestinians?
Trick_or_Treatsays
Apparently, Trump’s much vaunted and much awaited ‘Peace Deal of the Century’ (leaked just a short time ago) calls for Saudi Arabia to have control of the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.
[lol!,] Sorry, can’t see Israel allowing that to happen.
gravenimagesays
Given that this “leaked report” comes from Hizb’allah, I would *not* put a lot of stock in it:
gravenimage says
Robert Spencer video: “The two-state solution is a myth”
……………..
Yes, it is. Both Hamas and Fatah have the full destruction of Israel in their charters. Any “two state solution” would only be a stepping stone to destroying Israel.
Moshe says
If the two-state solution is a myth, then why is the brilliant Rabbinic leadership of the US Reform Movement in such ardent support? I refer you to the distinguished Rabbi Rick Jacobs. His advocacy is in accord with the political wisdom of many former US Presidents who have studied the issue deeply. Can these astute and gifted leaders–hailing from diverse faiths and backgrounds–all be wrong? President Obama has in particular taught us to follow the long arc of history as it bends towards justice–a beautiful and compelling insight.
The NYT, WP, NPR and CNN are all in agreement. What more needs to be said?
FYI says
“Astute and gifted leaders”?
surely not barack hussein obama ?Seriously?The man who was given the Nobel peace prize by the elite even though he didn’t deserve it?
The worst POTUS in American History?
“What more needs to be said”
That some lefty Jews and blind rabbis don’t get Irony or realize just what islam has in store for the Jews{Sahih muslim #6985}:they don’t want peace,the want to destroy Israel.
Lauren Hermann says
Amen!
mortimer says
The two-state solution is no myth, because it has already been imposed. The supposedly smart rabbis would increase their intelligence by reading Robert Spencer’s book, rather than pretending to be know-it-alls.
They might change their minds and so might you ‘Moshe’ or whoever you are.
Brains without accurate information is of very small value.
Let your rabbis debate Robert Spencer and see whose brains are bigger.
mortimer says
‘Moshe’, none of your alleged ‘brainiacs’ are capable of debating the facts with Robert Spencer, are they? They would be defeated in minutes, wouldn’t they? How ‘smart’ is that?
By cravenly freeing from debate, your alleged ‘brainiacs’ have already lost by default. You have lost. Your comments here are nonsensical.
Perhaps you will learn something by reading JihadWatch daily. A real intellectual reads and changes his mind when the facts are so conclusive … as what you read here every day.
gravenimage says
I thought the “Two State Solution” sounded like a great idea–when I first heard about it when I was 17 and didn’t yet know that Muslims had no intention of making peace with Israel.
The trolling “Moshe” know doubt knows this.
Nathan Dunning says
Yes the Two State Solution is Dead& Buried and it’s just a matter of time for the rest of the World to accept it. After the next War against Israel we’ll see the Jewish nation reclaim the rest of it’s Homeland.
Manuele Lui says
IT’LL NEVER EVENTUATE OR HAPPEN. THE MUSLIMS WILL NEVER ACCEPT ANYTHING OTHER THEN BE GIVEN THE WHOLE PROSPEROUS LAND AND HARD WORK OF ISRAEL. AND EVEN IF GIVEN, WHAT ARE THEY GONNA DO WITH IT. THEY (MUSLIMS) ARE SO DUMB THAT THEY CAN’T FUNCTION BECAUSE THEY’RE BE TOO BUSY FIGHTING AMONG THEMSELVES FOR TOTAL CONTROL.
Norman M says
The book is on its way.
JHL says
Since its inception, the two-state solution has never worked. Islam accepts no compromise. Islam is a totalitarian ideology that brings nothing but destruction to civilization.
Eur says
Two state solution for France.
Blurb1000 says
What about three?
gravenimage says
I don’t want to see France ceding her territory to Muslims.
Jack Dawkins says
One state for all. One vote for all!
Infidel says
Absolutely no! There is no reason to subject the Jews of Israel to a murderous Muslim population that’s even more extreme than the Saudis or the Iranians (and that’s saying something). Just look at the riots going on in India right now b’cos Gandhi/Nehru were so stupid that they allowed Muslims to stay on in India even though Hindus were expelled from Pakistan.
The ‘Palestinian’ Arabs need to be expelled from Judea and Samaria: let them go to any of those vast underpopulated Arab countries, such as Saudi Arabia, Libya, Qatar, Yemen, et al
Jack Dawkins says
Typical Zionazi
Infidel says
An amazing achievement for a Hindu who has no connections w/ that region, but supports the right of Jews to the place as the original inhabitants of the land (not b’cos they’re the chosen people or any of that)
gravenimage says
It looks as though Jack Dawkins considers anyone who doesn’t want to see the destruction of civilized Israel to be a “Nazi”.
mortimer says
A Two State Solution was Implemented in 1923 with the establishment of the Emirate of Trans-Jordan. West Palestine and East Palestine (Emirate of Transjordan) were divided.
The Emirate of Transjordan (Arabic: Imarat Sharq al-Urdun lit. “Emirate of east Jordan”), officially known as the Amirate of Trans-Jordan, was a British protectorate established in April 1921.[
THE TWO-STATE SOLUTION HAS ALREADY BEEN IMPLEMENTED SINCE 1923 Britain without authorization from the League of Nations, illegally hived off 75% of Mandatory Palestine in 1923 and handed it to the emir. The British announced that this was a “temporary” measure, which they quietly and quickly made “permanent.”
There are already two ‘Palestines’ … and thus. there is already a two-state solution. The Arabs got 75% of Mandatory Palestine. They didn’t like the name back then.
There’s a Jewish homeland or there isn’t, ‘Moshe’. Appeasement won’t work to stop the terrorism.
gravenimage says
+1
Walter Sieruk says
The ‘two state solution” is not really a valid idea and not a genuine solution. It will definitely not stop this awful Israeli –Muslim land conflict.
Thus a “two state solution” is out of the question. This is actually just right and fine .This is because a “two state solution” not really a “solution” but an Islamic ploy of deception , a smokescreen and hoax and a fraud.
For example those recent Hamas rocketed attacks in to Israel from Gaza reveals that even the idea of some people of dividing Jerusalem as well as other parts of the State of Israel between the Jewish people of the Muslim/ Arabs is nothing but folly. To engage the madness of such “talks” is a hoax and a farce .This is because in the so called “negotiations” between the heads of the Jewish nation of Israel and the leaders of the “Palestinians” the Muslim /Arabs the “Palestinian” leaders will speak the truth only when in happens to fit their agenda. The rest of the time the will be speaking half-truths and outright lies. For their goal is to obtain all of the land of the State of Israel ,.Even in it takes much time and it means getting the land piece by piece. So those “peace talks” are a hoax. For the “Palestinian”leaders are employing what is the Islamic doctrine of Taqiyya . Which is the Islamic dogma that lying and deception are good things to do as long as it’s done for the cause of the advancement of Islam. The insidious scheme is part of the stealth jihad .Otherwise known as “Islamic Gradualism.” This sly and something subtle strategy of disingenuous speech, lying deception of achieving the goal of all the land of Israel a war ploy that will be a disaster if the heads of the State of Israel are foolish enough to agree to divide the land of Israel with Muslim /Arabs ,the “Palestinians.” For if such a “peace dialogue” results in a divided land, the outcome will literally be murder. For “Palestinian” leader will allow the jihadists use that land as a base to launch murderous rocked attacks in to Israel. As for example, Hamas of Gaza and Hezbollah in Lebanon.
Such false hopes for peace which are based on the foundation of lies are nothing new when it comes to Israel . For example, the Bible in Psalm 55:20, 21. Reads “Such men do violence to those at peace with them and break their promised word; their speech is smoother the butter but their thoughts are of war.” [N.E.B.]
Jay Campbell says
the only solution is financial resettlement of these current day Palestinians whose fathers/grandfathers flooded into the British Mandate in the 1930. Thus, the vast majority of these Arabs are not indigenous to the land between the Jordan river and the Mediterranean. Israel comprises about 1 % of the total land mass of the Middle East. How can anyone deny that there is room in the 99% Arab countries to absorb the 5 -8 current day palestinians?
Trick_or_Treat says
Apparently, Trump’s much vaunted and much awaited ‘Peace Deal of the Century’ (leaked just a short time ago) calls for Saudi Arabia to have control of the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.
[lol!,] Sorry, can’t see Israel allowing that to happen.
gravenimage says
Given that this “leaked report” comes from Hizb’allah, I would *not* put a lot of stock in it:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/report-trump-plan-envisages-three-way-peace-deal-between-israel-plo-and-hamas/
Don’t believe everything that Jihadists tell you.