Mohamad Joban is no “extremist.” The Qur’an three times recounts that Allah transformed disobedient Jews into apes and pigs (2:62-65; 5:59-60; 7:166). “When in their insolence they transgressed (all) prohibitions, We said to them: ‘Be apes, despicable and rejected’” (7:166).
“Imam Mohamad Joban of Redmond, WA: Allah Transformed Jews into Despicable Apes and Pigs for Disobeying Him,” MEMRI, December 17, 2019:
Indonesian-American Imam Mohamad Joban of Masjid Ar-Rahmah in Redmond, WA delivered a lecture focusing on a Quranic story of a town of Jews who were transformed into apes by Allah for having rebelled against Him by setting fishing nets on Friday, before the Sabbath, and collecting the fish on Sunday. He said that this story was never exposed because the Jews cover up bad stories about themselves and always pretend to be pious. Laughing, he told how the Jews who had been transformed into apes cried because they couldn’t recognize one another as apes. Then Imam Joban said that in another verse, the violators were transformed into pigs. He discussed the question whether the transformed Jews had offspring and said that there are two views about this. However, he mentioned two cases, from Egypt and Malaysia, where newborns looked like descendants of apes and pigs. Imam Joban and his congregation chanted from the Quran responsively: “When [the Jews] rebelled against the commands to refrain, [Allah] said to them, ‘Be despicable apes’…” Imam Joban is a full-time Imam at Masjid Ar-Rahmah, which belongs to the Muslim Association of Puget Sound (MAPS). The lecture was uploaded to the MAPS Redmond YouTube channel on December 17, 2019.
Every year during Ramadhan, MAPS Redmond hosts an Annual Interfaith Iftar event. These events have been attended by high-profile local, state, and federal government officials. These officials have included, but are not limited to, FBI Assistant Special Agent in Charge Brad Deardorff, U.S. Rep. Roger Goodman (D-WA), officials from the offices of congressmen Rep. Dave Reichert (R) and Rep. Adam Smith (D), members of the Washington State Senate such as Bob Hasegawa, representatives from the office of Washington State Governor Jay Inslee, the Mayor of the City of Bellevue, WA, officials from King County, WA, and members from the Seattle Jewish and Christian communities. In 2003, Imam Joban led a prayer at the Washington State House of Representatives. Imam Joban has previously served as the Imam of the Islamic Center of Olympia, in Olympia, WA.
Mohamad Joban: [Saturday] is the day that, according to the Jews, is the holy day.
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The Orthodox Jews now, in Tel Aviv… On Saturday, and Friday night, [they do not] drive or anything.
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Allah said: “Ask them.” Ask who? The Jews in Medina.
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Ask them about the city or town that [was] close to the ocean – the sea.
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Why did Allah ask Muhammad to ask the Jews about that city? Because the Jews are shy to talk about their ancestors. The Jews… Any bad story there, they cover up. They always tell people: “We are good people, we are heroes.” For example, if [a Jew] has a grandfather who is not a good grandfather, like when you ask someone whose grandfather’s name in Binyamin. He [will] say: “No, my grandfather is named Yusef.” So he changes for that. Because everyone knows that the story of that man is not good.
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Allah, when he talked to the Israelites, he said: “Oh sons of Israel,” He didn’t say: “Oh, Jews.” No, [He said]: “Oh, sons of Israel…” “You are the sons of Jacob, man, how could you do that?”
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The Jews never exposed this story. They always told the people of Medina: “We are great people, we are pious people – even our ancestors [were].”
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Voice of Congregant: “When they observed the Sabbath, their fish would come to them abundantly. But when they violated the Sabbath, their fish would not come to them. Thus we tried them because they disobeyed.”
Mohamad Joban: Very interesting. Don’t fish on Saturday… Allah tested them. On Saturday, the fish [were] jumping. Can you imagine that?
Image of jumping fish
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[This happened for] one week, two weeks… On the third week, they said: “How will we do [this]? They came on Friday and put out their nets, and some of them dug a hole. Like this is from the ocean, you can dig here, so that the fish will come here… And then when people said: “Hey man, we cannot do that.” [They responded:] “We did not fish on Saturday. It’s Friday, man.” And they [left the fishing nets] and came to pick them up on Sunday.
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The verse appears on the screen with an image of macaque monkeys
Mohamad Joban chants and the congregation repeats after him: “Then, when they rebelled against the commands to refrain, We said to them, “Be despicable apes.”
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Mohamad Joban: Suddenly, one morning, they wake up there was quiet – no voices. They said: “What’s going on?” some of them climbed above [the wall], they looked down and saw all monkeys. And they were crying. Why were they crying? Because when they became monkeys, they couldn’t recognize one another. Which one [is] my wife? Which ones [are] my children? How do you look like? You are monkeys. Monkeys, original monkeys, they recognize one another. But when you become monkey… Because you look like the same…
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The question now is [whether] they continued to have generations after their death, or after [their] death, [they] were finished? The scholars have two opinions. He said that after a while, all of them died. Because Allah made them monkeys as a punishment, they died already. But some say: “No, they have generations. When I was in Egypt, in a city called Ras El Bar a baby was born. He had long hands, his face was like a monkey’s. He was walking with his hands like this…
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You know, if you have a son or a daughter, [people say:] “You know who he looks like?” “This one looks like his father.” [They] say: “No, he does not look like his father, he looks like his grandfather.” Sometimes, [a baby does] not look like the parents, only… what? Like his grandfather. Always like that… So that means, this baby… Maybe this one – his grand grand father, used to be what?
Joban laughs
And then in Malaysia there was a baby born, in the state of Johor, and he had a tail. Everybody was surprised.
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Then they tried to match the tail. [it was] not like that of a horse, not like that of any animal… It was like that of a pig. Because Allah said in another verse: “Apes.” [sic] Allah turned… Some of them became, what? A pig. This one of them continued. Allah just wanted to tell us what Allah told you a long time ago that people turned into monkeys and that this is true. It is religion, look at them, some of them stayed [apes and pigs]…
Wellington says
The sickness and rank bigotry which is Islam is never ending. Indeed, it is a voluminous amount.
Jake says
Is he a citizen? Obviously he lied on his application if he is a citizen. Can we kick him out?
PRCS says
What do yo believe he may have lied about?
gravenimage says
PRCS, surely you don’t consider unhinged hatred of Jews to be an American value?
PRCS says
What in Hell are you talking about?
gravenimage says
PRCS, you seemed to be sneering at the idea that Imam Mohamad Joban could possibly have lied in becoming a US citizen. But if he did not directly lie, then he *certainly* did by omission, since there is *nothing* American in preaching this savagery against Jews.
keya says
Merry Christmas Imam Joban!! You are so full of hate.
Kesselman says
Apart from his looks who does he think he’s talking about? Well, irony aside Islamofascism is dead serious when they apply scam tags to non-Moslems. And again, you can’t differ between “moderates” and “radicals.” To do it is blowing dust into your eyes.
This is a World War between the Islamic World, Dar al-Islam, and the REST of the World, Dar al-Harb. Naive pundits saying otherwise, demanding the (non-existent) Moderate Muslims join with us to destroy the Radical Muslims, are dangerous, ignorant fools trying to lead the rest of us off the cliff.
FYI says
3 Tricks used by islamic apologists when asked questions about islam..
1]Deflection:Change the topic..
2]islamic Whataboutery…this will usually involve talking about the Bible..”what about Leviticus chpt X verse y etc huh?”… or complaining about the sinister Israelis/zionists/Jews
3]the Arabic mullarkey
To a non-Arabic speaking inquirer{even a fellow muslim}”Oh you don’t understand arabic”,”You couldn’t possibly understand koranic Arabic”:if they are losing the argument they will quibble over a word’s meaning or say “I’ll have to give you lessons in Arabic”
To an Arabic speaking inquirer {Christian,Atheist,Ex-muslim} that trick won’t work will it because dawa folk in particular don’t want to have to explain these things as they use Arabic as a means to fool people:An ex-muslim,Atheist etc who understands Arabic will confirm this.
To an Arabic speaking ex-muslim{or koranic expert} who knows the koran has mistakes{yes,even in the Arabic itself]and where they are:they won’t want to speak with you!
Besides,what sort of god is so obtuse,so lingustically-challenged that he can only be understood in ONE language{compare with the Biblical God:ALL languages are available}
Perhaps a confused god like allah the god of the Arabs,a god who shows himself to be so parochial he says of the Arabs
“What!A FOREIGN TONGUE and an Arab?”
koran 41:44
Only a parochial god,an Arab god, would say that about his Arabs.
Wellington says
+1
PRCS says
“Besides,what sort of god is so obtuse,so lingustically-challenged that he can only be understood in ONE language {compare with the Biblical God:ALL languages are available}”
A language which very, very few Muslims–anywhere–read, write or speak.
*Classical Arabic (Arabic: ٱلعَرَبِيَّة ٱلْفُصْحَىٰ, al-ʿarabīyah al-fuṣḥā) is the form of the Arabic language used in Umayyad and Abbasid literary texts from the 7th to the 9th century AD.
FYI says
“And we never sent a messenger save with the language of his folk so that he might make the message clear for them”
koran 14 v 4
So that is why allah has his koran in arabic as it SUPPOSED to be just for Arabs.Clearly if it was not in arabic then arabs wouldn’t be able to understand it.The People of the Book{the Bible,Jews and Christians} according to the koran have THEIR book:the koran is FOR ARABS.
The koran is an ARAB book FOR the Arabs.
Here are statements that make no sense in ANY language..
1}”Above it are nineteen”
koran 74 v 30
nineteen WHAT?Nobody knows..nineteen.. flower pots?tacos?Beer bottles?Galaxies?…
If the koran was in sanskrit,hebrew or tok-pidgin it still would be a ridiculous sentence as it is an inconclusive statement in allah’s “perfect” book.
{“Lo! This koran is a conclusive word” koran 86 v 13
Oh no it isn’t !..because it has an inconclusive statement like koran 74:30 in it,it cannot be called”the conclusive word”}
2}”And WE{!} bestowed on Jesus the Gospel”
koran 5 v 46
Really?Yes allah,Jesus had the Gospel.
{Jesus was not involved personally in the writing down of the Gospel and besides it came AFTER Jesus’s Time.If anything it was bestowed on the Apostles and disciples who had the responsibility to record it}
3}”And the Jews say ‘Ezra is the son of allah”..”
koran 9: 30
Sure they do allah,sure they do.
Yeah,that’s right allah,the Jews say that…..
“{the koran} it is no pleasantry”
koran 86 v 14
Ok that’s definitely TRUE…
Kepha says
+1
gravenimage says
Good post, FYI.
Salero 21 says
I call them Mohamedans for a reason, Jesus is in Heaven for a reason.
Mohamed is in the other place that’s NOT Heaven for many reasons.
Kepha says
Jesus is in Heaven–body and soul.
gravenimage says
Washington state: Muslim cleric who led prayer at state house says Allah transformed Jews into “despicable apes”
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Disgusting–but also orthodox Islam. That the Washington State House allowed this Muslim thug to lead a prayer is appallingly clueless. Did no one investigate him? Probably not.
Kepha says
Years ago (I think 2003), a GOP legislator named Lois McMahan walked out on this grinning goon’s “prayer” in the state legislature and was roundly taken to task for it.
gravenimage says
Yes, Kepha–I was actually going to cite this:
https://products.kitsapsun.com/archive/2003/03-05/88276__patriotic__protest_blows_up.html
The tone of this article is disgusting, but this proves that Lois McMahan was *quite* right.
Kepha says
Mohamad Joban say that the Jews are unwilling to admit anything bad about their ancestors. Clearly, he is utterly ignorant of the Scriptures. Uncle Kepha sees the origins of the West’s habit of self-criticism not in Greee, but in ancient Israel. While I’m not sure I agree with him, I note that Huldrych Zwingli believed that Socrates and Plato were influenced by Moses and the Prophets in their criticism of the Athenian pantheon (certainly, Moses and the Prophets were older). The humility of the biblical writers is infinitely superior to the boastful Qur’an’s telling Muslims that they are the best of men.
gravenimage says
Good post, Kepha.
And Muslims try to use Jews’ self criticism against them, acting as if this is Jews admitting they are evil, since Muslims would *never* admit to any fault. Muslims do the same thing with the West in general.
Gyomza says
So the monkeys intermarried with other humans until they all disappeared but sporadically resurfacing here and there.
elee says
Would they have invited a Nazi to address their legislature? Heres hoping that some courageous Washingtonian will sue their multicultural a$$es.
Giacomo Latta says
This was an interfaith event, in theory. Were there actually representatives from other religions there? Were they listening? Have they already pulled out of next year’s event?
Terry says
If Allah transformed the jews into “despicable apes” then they are saying apes are more intelligent than humans. Here is a list of examples starting with particle physicists who have contributed to the knowledge of the technological world we enjoy today. Einstein, Bohr, Feynman, Schroedinger, Meitner, Weisskopf, Stern, Frohlich, Berkowitz, Schwarzchild, Steinberger, Feshbach, Breit, Bethe, Cohen, Dresselhaus, Franck, Fredkin, Gello-Mann,Glaser, Glashow, Glauber, Greene to mention a few…..this is an abbreviated list in just physics alone.
How about Facebook and Zuckerberg?
How about the film industry in Hollywood? Most of the moguls were Jews…Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, Warner Bros, Rod Serling, Aaron Spelling, Sydney Pollack, Carl Reiner, Stanley Kubrick, Steven Spielberg, Woody Allen, Cecil DeMille, Otto Preminger and the list goes on. Our world as we know it today would be centuries behind without these VERY INTELLIGENT PILLARS OF HUMANITY. I think this Imam needs to see his reflection in the mirror because the ape to which he refers is staring him in the face.
gravenimage says
+1