“After the U.S. Supreme Court upheld President Donald Trump’s ban on travelers from several predominantly Muslim countries in 2018, the ruling appeared to shut down legal challenges that claimed the policy was rooted in anti-Muslim bias.”
But now, the issue is on the table again.
A federal appeals court in Richmond is set to hear arguments from civil rights groups hoping to keep the challenges alive.
This time, the argument is about “favoring one religion over another”; the challenge accuses Trump’s ban of being “aimed at the Muslim community and Islam.” But remember, the countries of concern which were selected were from the Obama era.
Is anyone at all wondering why they are listed as such? The answer is simple: because the listed countries cannot or will not provide adequate information about those wanting to enter the US. This is a national security issue.
At the center of the challenge is none other than representatives of CAIR — an unindicted co-conspirator in a Hamas terror funding case.
“Trump’s Travel Ban Faces New Challenge in Federal Appeals Court,” by Denise Lavoie, Time Magazine, January 26, 2020:
(RICHMOND, Va.) — After the U.S. Supreme Court upheld President Donald Trump’s ban on travelers from several predominantly Muslim countries in 2018, the ruling appeared to shut down legal challenges that claimed the policy was rooted in anti-Muslim bias.
But a federal appeals court in Richmond is set to hear arguments from civil rights groups hoping to keep the challenges alive.
The 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals will hear arguments Tuesday in three lawsuits filed by U.S. citizens and permanent residents whose relatives have been unable to enter the U.S. because of the travel ban, which was first imposed shortly after Trump took office in January 2017.
The court is being asked to decide whether a federal judge in Maryland made a mistake when he refused to dismiss constitutional claims made in a lawsuit filed by the International Refugee Assistance Project despite a 2018 U.S. Supreme Court ruling in a Hawaii case that found the travel ban “a legitimate grounding in national security concerns.”
The Justice Department argues the high court’s ruling effectively puts an end to the legal challenges. In a 5-4 ruling, a sharply divided Supreme Court found that the travel ban was within the considerable authority U.S. presidents have over immigration and their responsibility for keeping the nation safe. The court rejected claims that the policy was rooted in anti-Muslim bias based in large part on Trump’s own tweets and public statements, including his call during the presidential campaign for “a complete and total shutdown of Muslims entering the United States.”
Trump has said the ban is aimed at making the U.S. safer from potentially hostile foreigners.
“The Court rejected the argument that the Proclamation could be explained only by anti-Muslim bias, and held instead that the Proclamation was rationally grounded in legitimate national-security concerns and foreign policy objectives,” Justice Department lawyers argue in a legal brief.
The Trump administration is asking the 4th Circuit to dismiss the lawsuits.
But the plaintiffs’ attorneys say the Supreme Court merely rejected a preliminary injunction to block the travel ban and did not decide the merits of the constitutional claims. The plaintiffs allege the travel ban violates several constitutional rights, including the First Amendment’s Establishment Clause prohibiting the government from favoring one religion over another.
“The Trump administration has supplied ample and damning evidence of its discriminatory intent, time and time again, so we’re hopeful that any court — any fair-minded observer — will see it the way we do, that it is a Muslim ban that’s aimed at the Muslim community and Islam,’” said Gadeir Abbas, a senior litigation attorney with the Council on American-Islamic Relations….
tedh754 says
Can’t imagine why anyone would want to ban them. They bring so much joy to any community they become part of.
Michael Copeland says
“What a fantastic contribution muslims make to this country! –
David Cameron
FYI says
“Too many white christian faces in Britain”
David Cameron
2015
It was Cameron who insisted more muslims be promoted in the law,politics,business and
“many more muslims soldiers in the highest level of command”
Imagine “the highest level of command”!
“islam is a great religion”
David Cameron
“A muslim could one day be Prime Minister”
Tony Blair
2006
Both Blair{labour} and Cameron{tory} are traitors to the British people:these Quislings knowingly and treasonously allowed this to happen.
James Lincoln says
Agree 100%.
Giacomo Latta says
Thanks for the warning, Tony.
Tracie l Koehler says
Exactly them people can go rot in hell with Satan the one they pray to 5 times a day
toomanyhobbies says
Even the Saudi list CAIR as a TERRORIST GROUP… why don’t we..
Linda says
You are kidding, aren’t you??
Awilda Rameriez says
They will kill you in a minute even here in America! Islam is not a religion of peace. Any religion that tells you to kill people because they’re not believing in what they believe is a cult.
Michael Copeland says
The President has sworn to defend the Constitution. He has the right, and the duty, to exclude persons holding allegiance to a hostile ideology.
“Islam will invade Europe and America, smashing Western civilisation and replacing it with Islam” – Mohammed Mahdi Akef
“destroying the Western civilisation from within” – Muslim Brotherhood plan
“Islam wishes to destroy all states and governments anywhere on the face of the earth
which are opposed to the ideology and program of Islam” – Maududi
James Lincoln says
Michael Copeland says,
“The President has sworn to defend the Constitution. He has the right, and the duty, to exclude persons holding allegiance to a hostile ideology.”
100% true. And Pres. Obama never got the memo…
Lu says
The citations you use mean nothing to them: they will not listen to it, turning blind eye to the facts and history.
We need to go through the same cataclysms like in 1683, 1945 … name it in order to defeat evil through bloody catharsis – only to start the whole cycle again, a couple of million cadavers later.
Blame the politicians, their corruption and cowardice.
mortimer says
They are lying about the motive of Trump’s restrictions: IT IS ENTIRELY POLITICAL IN NATURE.
The terrorists and the countries that supported them are conducting JIHAD … the central act of POLITICAL ISLAM.
If governments promote jihad, they should be penalized for doing so until they stop promoting jihad against the US.
The restrictions are intended to stop the travel of JIHADIST TERRORISTS to the US. The US security services have a fair idea of who the jihadists are and where they live.
This is not mere guess work. Special agents are keeping tabs on Islamic terrorists around the clock.
Charles says
Islamic hypocrisy! How do those countries treat Christians in their midst.Is there a real difference between Islam and fascism??
ToBeFrank says
There is a reason why sane people call it Islamic Terrorism…
Steve says
All you will ever need to know and read. All are downloadable PDF’s
https://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/civilization-jihad-reader-series/
And The Muslim Brotherhood Ten Part Series from the same source. Worth watching.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF834C7965BEA6BCC
Rarely says
One would think that the U.S. Constitution protects American citizens and American residents only and does not attempt to give rights to everyone on the Planet. I suppose there must be a separate Statute that extends some of those rights to foreigners who are applying to be allowed entry.
It is ironic that several highly qualified doctors I know were, in the not so distant past, denied landed immigrant status or even work permits by the U.S. I guess the lack of apparent racial/religious prejudice in those cases prevented any possible legal challenge.
Weird state of affairs.
carol marlin says
Sir is muslim woman in USA going to have sport game rights??? Sir if muslim woman have no USA play game rights why are muslim women in USA ???? Sir why would a USA court gave muslim rights to life in USA if muslim men does not gave muslim women sports rights???
Walter Sieruk says
A travel ban is very important for US Homeland Security as well as the very necessary for the safety and protection of all America citizens.
Concerning the security and safety of America people as well as peaceful visitors this nation and this topic of a travel ban from terrorist hotspot countries in important. This subject had been, somewhat, explained in the book, by Robert Spencer which his entitled THE COMPLETE INFIDEL’S GUIDE TO THE KORAN. For on page 230 it informs the reader “Immigration. Since there is no completely reliable way to tell any given Muslim believer takes the Koran’s dictates about warfare against Infidels literally, immigration of Muslims into the United States should be halted.”
In addition, on page 232 of the same book read “The willful blindness of Western leaders threatens us all, and the very survival of free societies.” Therefore, First, it should not be forgotten that most of the jihadist al Qaeda operatives who were the hijackers and mass murderers came from Saudi Arabia . Second, don’t let them fool you, the many apologists for Islam is will endeavor to set up a smokescreen to hide the reality of the truth about the violence and deadly essence of Islam by making the bogus claim that the al Qaeda operatives mass murderer on 9/11 were not real Muslims and that they were breaking the laws of the Qu ‘ran by their violence and deadly actions.” The apologists for Islam will further make the totally false claim that “Those terrorists on 9/11 were only criminals who hijacked the peaceful religion of Islam for Politics.” Those outrageously false claims are weak attempt of damage control for the image of Islam to the West. For the “holy book” of Islam the Qu ‘ran. For the Qu ‘ran instruct in Sura 9:111. Muslims who are engaging the jihad that “The believer’s fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain ,they kill and are killed “ That’s just what happened on September 11, 2001 the jihadists of al Qaeda “killed and were killed” in those 9/11 jihad attacks against both humankind and America. The Quran also teaches in Sura 9:123 to that jihad –minded Muslims behavior towards non-Muslims “let them find harshness in you…” Those Islamic attacks on 9/11 were indeed very “harsh.” As Sura 2:191 instructs “kill the disbeliever wherever you find them.” That’s a very strange kind of “peaceful religion” if there ever was one. Just to site one more out on many from the Qu ‘ran about the instruction of deadly violence is Sura 47:4. Which instructs “Whenever you encounter unbelievers strike off their heads until you make a great slaughter among them …” Let’s face it, using jet planes a missiles as those jihadist/ Muslims did of September 11, sure made a greater “slaughter among them” then sword can. Wake up West to the actual nature of Islam before it’s too late.
TomSJr says
I HOPE THEY ARE BANNED. ISLAM has the same ideology of the Democrat Party: pure evil of anyone NOT THEM.
don vito says
+10 to the 10th power.
Chaz says
I thought that HAMAS and CAIR were tough outfits. It looks like they are a bunch of whiny snowflakes, just like the lefties in America:-)
gravenimage says
Hamas and CAIR will use whatever tactics they think will work–in this case, whining.
And there is nothing very “tough” about Hamas, in any case–most of their attacks are cowardly.
somehistory says
moslims just can’t accept the word “No!” no matter who says it, no matter how many times they hear it said to them.
hamas cair takers should be outlawed by the use of the RICO statute against ‘racketeering and conspiracy organizations.’
These moslim groups have never stopped gathering and donating funds for terror. hamas cair takers have filed so many lawsuits against people and companies built on hoaxes and set-ups. Such as their suits against Delta for putting some moslims off their flights due to suspicious actions on the part of the moslims. moslims go out of their way to act suspicious when it will suit their purpose to be denied some ‘privilege’…not a “right” such as being put off a plane for causing unease in the other passengers and the flight crew.
The SC said that the restrictions were not directed at moslims…but at the security situation….and moslims are the ***cause*** of the security situation….bombs on planes…in shoes, underwear and computers. Knives and box-cutters and taking over planes for jihad.
As someone quoted above, it is the design of the mb to “destroy” the “miserable house from within”…the reason tlaib, omar, and all of the other moslims have run for political office. That is ***treason*** and the government should have the ability to keep those who wish to “destroy the house” out of the country.
If anyone else even says the word “bomb” or related word…anything that threatens security or seems to be about security…that person is removed and questioned until the cows come home. But if moslims speak in arabic, say any word related to jihad….the name of their fake ‘god,’ etc., they are doing so for the purpose of making an uproar…so they can sue. But, all of these should be treated the same as anyone else…take them off and question them until the cows come home. And don’t allow them to bring in their family…or husbands-to-be for their girl children…into the country.
James Lincoln says
I preferred President Trump’s original “ban ALL muslims” speech – when he was running for office.
It sounded a little “draconian” to me at the time, but now I know that he was essentially correct. Probably better something like “ban all Muslims – with rare, very limited, highly monitored exceptions for very short periods of time”.
Also, the US should deport as many Muslims as legally possible and ban sharia law at the federal level as well as in all 50 individual states.
gravenimage says
Hamas-linked CAIR behind new challenge to Trump travel ban, says it’s “aimed at the Muslim community and Islam”
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As Muslims see it, bans on Jihad and Shari’ah violate “religious freedom”, as well.
somehistory says
Absolutely, they do.
Did you see the long, long list of questions they have assembled for anyone in the U.S. running for office? One of the things they want is to elect people who will allow them to do anything they wish as long as they say it’s part of their religious belief and practice. A major part of their religious belief is the ‘right’ they claim to have to murder and rape their way to a fake, and evil, ‘paradise,’ while having complete control over the actions of everyone else.
Just attempting to prevent them from injuring others, or even pointing out what they have done or are doing, to them is stomping on their ‘religious rights.’
James Lincoln says
Well put gravenimage.
gravenimage says
Thank you, Somehistory and James.
Flip says
A war cannot be won with restrictions on travel and trade. Use the examples from history and bring personal destruction to the enemy. Bomb state sponsors of the jihadist movement until they give up their goals and become non-threatening. Jihadists do not live in a vacuum–they all have state support from Iran and/or Saudi Arabia. Do this from a safe distance and absolutely minimize the danger to American soldiers. Do not rebuild or occupy.
James Lincoln says
Flip,
Interesting post. Make the state sponsors of the jihadist movement responsible for the actions of the jihadists – now and in the future.
I would, however, combine this with restrictions on travel and trade.
gravenimage says
Flip wrote:
A war cannot be won with restrictions on travel and trade. Use the examples from history and bring personal destruction to the enemy.
………………
Flip–with all respect–we didn’t have hordes of Nazis coming into the US during WWII. I’m afraid the idea that you cannot defend against Jihad unless you allow Jihadists to flood into your nations makes no sense.
Wellington says
“A war cannot be won with restrictions on travel and trade.”
Yes, alone these two are almost certainly not enough to win a war but, as just part and parcel of an overall strategy, they could play a major part in winning a war. Personally, I would restrict ALL Muslims from traveling to the US minus a small detail of Muslim diplomatic personnel. Of course, this would require identifying Islam as iniquitous and we’re not there yet, now are we? Sadly, not even close.
Wellington says
Muslims preaching and asking for religious liberty doesn’t even meet the laugh test.
Hypocrites, Muslims. All of you. No exceptions. Not one damn one. Got this Zuhdi Jasser and Irshad Manji and your ilk? If not, “get” it.
Sick of Islam and here is one of many reasons why: Even assuming there are good aspects to Islam (quite the assumption I know), no one can name a single good aspect of Islam that cannot be found in other belief systems—and yet one can name a plethora of truly sick stuff about Islam that can’t be found in any other major religious belief system, including death for apostasy, the lauding of a religious founder who was a sicko to the core, a chief holy book (in the Koran) that is a massive hate manual, and a conception of a deity that only demonstrates how truly warped in sundry ways this deity is. And I don’t need a sly, even moronic, comment to the effect that one good thing about Islam is how much it tends to produce followers who kill one another for not being properly Muslim—this is a non-starter.
Enough already. This religion once and for all needs to be placed on the trash heap of history.
maemae77 says
It’s nice to see where the so called moderate Muslims stand on cutting off terrorists from coming into our country
They’re a movement and each play their part.
Terrorists are just the military branch of their movement.
They lie and deflect to keep non-Muslims blind of their ideology. Too bad it works on most Americans.
There needs to be a massive awakening on what Islam really is. This is the only way to save humanity. If we don’t, a genocide of non-Muslims Americans is guaranteed.
maemae77 says
Islam needs to be debunked. Extract Sharia Law and Islam will crumble.
A mass awakening needs to happen on this.
I mean on news, social media, radio, news papers etc…
Maybe this will give the opportunity for many Muslims to leave the totalitarian ideology that are unaware of the truths of Islam.
Ex-Muslims need to rise up and help with the debunking.
It will have to happen in steps but swiftly.
Some leaders may be mad, oh well. If they decide to do anything dangerous, maybe they can be watched closely to prevent any harm they may do as their retaliation.
This needs to happen to save humanity.
We have no choice.
notnolib says
Doug (Hooper),
Tell your muslims to stop being terrorists.
CAIR is a terrorist organization.
jca reid says
There is NO LIBERTY under Islam!
OLD GUY says
There is no such thing as a moderate islamic muslim. If there where, these so called moderates would be standing up against the radical terrorist that islam promotes around the world.
If you love your islamic religion and life style then you should live in one of the muslim countries where it is acceptable to practice its teachings. The American govt. has the right and duty to protect its citizens from people who are a threat or may pose a threat to this country. “GOD BLESS AMERICA”
Bipin says
Most Muslims abuse Western culture and society and calling them Satan then why are they upset if USA is banning them. They should be thankful to Trump for keeping them out from Western culture.
Every European countries should start thinking about banning Muslim immigrants.
These termites are making Europe dirty.
Zihad Sharia Bomb blast and violence will be new normal in Europe just like ME country.
tgusa says
“Trump has said the ban is aimed at making the U.S. safer from potentially hostile foreigners.”
Even so, a muslim ban is in order because of the discrimination in islam in regards to the rights of men vs women. Our Republic acknowledges, yes, demands and requires equal rights between the two. islam has not, does not and will not conform to that principle and therefore by US law, a total ban is in order.
Of course islam is free to change their koranic dictates but I don’t believe that will ever happen.
gravenimage says
Muslim immigration is down 90% under this “Muslim ban”–a good first step.
tgusa says
Yes, very good, but as I have been taught I always prefer to go 110% in whatever venture I choose to engage in.
tgusa says
I wonder, how come the idiot trolls have not come out and refuted what I wrote?
I say to them, please, come out and play.
gravenimage says
I thought it was funny, tgusa!
Dallas Woodard says
Nuff said
From an authentic authorized translation of the quran
Surah 9-29
Fight those people of the Book (Jews and Christians) who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day, do not refrain from what has been prohibited by Allah and His Messenger and do not embrace the religion of truth (Al-Islam), until they pay Jizya (protection tax) with their own hands and feel themselves subdued.[29]
Dallas Woodard says
If you are not aware
The quran itself tells you that allah is satan, in hell, personally kindling the fire to a blaze!
Islam is not a religion
Islam is a satanic cult and should be banned and booted out of America!
Dallas Woodard says
from an authentic authorized translation of the quran .
Surah 104 AL-HUMAZAH – THE SLANDERER In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful. Woe to every slanderer and defamer,[1] who amasses wealth and keeps on counting it.[2] He thinks that his wealth will insure his status forever![3] By no means! He shall be thrown into Hotamah.[4] What will make you understand what Hotamah is?[5] IT IS THE FIRE KINDLED TO A BLAZE BY ALLAH HIMSELF.[6] The one which will rise right to the hearts,[7] closing in upon them from every side[8] in outstretched columns.[9] 104: [1-9]
E T says
Intell groups keep warning Americans about the large number of terrorists groups in the US, bad operators and they are not Jewish or Christian. Robert Spencer has warned the world for years and still they are growing in numbers—creeping Shari’ah.
Garfield says
I’m glad we all agree. Now how can we get this info out to the idiots who think “Palestine” is some group of humble bowing and scraping little victims who just need a chance? Leftists really think Palestinians are saints. They don’t know about the Palestinian pay for slay program. HOW can the info get to them past their anti Semitic, ignorance and TDS?
A full page ad in the NYT explaining the Palestinian pay for slay program would be a start.
Headlines that only reach those of us who already know are not enough. Leftist liberals have to know specifically what the islamists DO. Describe their crimes not the fact that they do crimes. Describe their acts not just say “several Muslims attacked Christians”. No. DESCRIBE IT. Liberals get off on gore. They are attracted to it and crave it. So tell them graphically what happens. Describe FGM in minute detail. Then maybe they might at least listen a little more.
Jihadwatch is so important and Mr. Spencer is a national hero. He should be at the WH advising on security and foreign policy. To read this site for years and the problem isn’t getting fixed is frustrating. It shows how the sick idiotic hateful left controls the media and tries to block truth.
I think new tactics to spread this information is needed.
The information needs to get to liberals. They aren’t reading this site.
One line ads in local papers that say simply “check jihadwatch.org for information about radical Islam”?
In the little nickel. In local newspapers.
How about a (harmless) stunt? A streaker with jihadwatch painted on him or her?
Something attention getting.
A plane with a message banner?
Maybe get the message into the black community via chat rooms asking about if they think FGM is ok. Or somehow point out that everything modern liberals like to wear when they go out is against Islam. Push the idea that western club/party outfits are not allowed. Link oppression to Islam. Is that being done? These college
Students supporting Palestine don’t ever think that what they suppport would screw up everything they like to do. Someone should go out and say did you know that skimpy outfit is not allowed in
Islamic countries? Make them imagine it personally affecting THEM . (That who they care about right? Themselves only.)
Ask them if they would do FGM on their daughter if they married a Muslim and he told her to.
Come on people let’s think of ways to promote truth!