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Iraqi TV says Iran’s Quds Force top dog Soleimani killed in US airstrike at Baghdad’s airport

Jan 2, 2020 8:56 pm By Robert Spencer

In August 2018, Soleimani posted an image on Instagram of the White House exploding. His death, if confirmed, shows that the US is now serious about confronting the belligerence and aggression of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

On January 1, 2020, the Ayatollah Khamenei tweeted to Trump: “You can’t do anything.”

“Iraqi TV: Iran’s Gen. Soleimani killed in Baghdad strike,” by Qassim Abdul-Zahra, Associated Press, January 2, 2020:

Baghdad (AP) — Iraqi TV and three Iraqi officials said Friday that Gen. Qassim Soleimani, the head of Iran’s elite Quds Force, has been killed in an airstrike at Baghdad’s international airport.

The officials said the strike also killed Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, the deputy commander of Iran-backed militias known as the Popular Mobilization Forces.

Their deaths are a potential turning point in the Middle East and are expected to draw severe retaliation from Iran and the forces it backs in the Middle East against Israel and American interests.

The PMF blamed the United States for an attack at Baghdad International Airport Friday….

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  1. gravenimage says

    Jan 2, 2020 at 9:03 pm

    Iraqi TV says Iran’s Quds Force top dog Soleimani killed in US airstrike at Baghdad’s airport
    ………………..

    Good news! Hope this is accurate.

    • Westman says

      Jan 2, 2020 at 10:40 pm

      Allah was willing.

      • PRCS says

        Jan 3, 2020 at 5:44 am

        +1

      • Pete says

        Jan 3, 2020 at 6:41 am

        ++1

    • Infidel says

      Jan 2, 2020 at 11:37 pm

      Confirmed by the Pentagon!

    • Wellington says

      Jan 3, 2020 at 12:12 am

      I too hope this is accurate, gravenimage. After all, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was reported dead (until really dead this past year) several times.

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 3, 2020 at 9:40 pm

        Sounds like it’s the real thing. Glad to hear it. Of course, Leftists, Russia, and most of Europe is castigating our daring to take out this murderous thug, No surprise there, sadly…

    • Max Brenner says

      Jan 3, 2020 at 1:48 am

      What the he3ll wee they doing in Baghdad, Iraq? Every Iranian trespassing into Iraq should be shot dead immediately.

      • Gary Callihan says

        Jan 3, 2020 at 3:09 am

        You are quite correct in what you assert!

      • Infidel says

        Jan 3, 2020 at 7:43 am

        Well, we had been fighting alongside Iran against ISIS earlier, and they used that cooperation to make the troops we trained into a full blown part of the Iraqi army – obviously loyal to Teheran. But I agree w/ you – every Iranian who trespasses into Iraq should be sent directly to allah

        • Huapakechi says

          Jan 3, 2020 at 9:12 am

          True justice would have ’em fed to pigs. No paradise, no virgins.

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 3, 2020 at 9:41 pm

        Iran has tremendous influence today in majority-Shia Iraq.

    • Jeff Gonez says

      Jan 3, 2020 at 7:10 am

      Fantastic news!

      • Rob Porter says

        Jan 4, 2020 at 10:29 am

        Some response to Ayatollah Khamenei’s tweet to Trump that: “You can’t do anything.” The heap of twisted metal says it all.

  2. Emilie Green says

    Jan 2, 2020 at 9:10 pm

    And the Festivus miracles keep coming,

    This had to be the will of their Allah.

    • Infidel says

      Jan 2, 2020 at 11:38 pm

      As they say in islam, alhamdullilah, or praise be to allah!

  3. mortimer says

    Jan 2, 2020 at 9:42 pm

    Congratulations are due to the military and diplomatic team for yet another commensurate response to the dictators of Iran. The strike against Gen. Soleimani and deputy commander Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis was a brilliant case of military success, depriving insurgents of top leaders who may be hard to replace. All branches who brought this off should be recognized. The most moral military action focuses on the enemy soldiers and avoids civilian casualties. Well done, team! The enemies of the United States are no doubt demoralized by their loss. They should have picked on a ‘little guy’ of their own size. The insurgents were brave when no one shot back at them. We can only hope that some of the Islamic terrorist forces will see the futility of attacking the strongest force on earth led by a determined and wise president who trusts his military chiefs of staff to do the right thing. Iran’s mullahocracy desperately wants to distract its people from their massive corruption and political incompetence.

    Unlike the response to the Benghazi embassy fiasco, Pres. Trump handled this riot by sending in many additional troops who responded to the riot appropriately as a riot. When the stun grenades broke the rioters’ eardrums, they will mostly have permanent hearing damage and tinnitus for the rest of their lives. They will realize that the US forces dealt mercifully with them. Any Muslim terrorist who attacks a US embassy will realize that it is a fool’s errand. They will pay a horrible price.

    • underbed cat says

      Jan 2, 2020 at 9:51 pm

      Great comment Mortimer. Congratulation to President Trump, his team and the brave excellent military.

      • Anthony Jagers says

        Jan 3, 2020 at 7:13 am

        The part about the permanent hearing loss was my favorite part.

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 3, 2020 at 9:46 pm

          They only occasionally cause permanent hearing loss to those right on top of the devices. Generally temporary hearing loss is much more common. But even that can prevent rioters from organizing further.

    • Jeff Gonez says

      Jan 3, 2020 at 7:12 am

      Do stun grenades do thst? I hope so!

  4. underbed cat says

    Jan 2, 2020 at 9:43 pm

    Whoa….I didn’t know much about Soleimani. he was big in Iran, it frightened me at first, if there could be a backlash from Iran since…I guess he was a bad dude.. hopefully the Embassy was cleared out and they are safe….the soldiers that arrived looked very young and I hope this does not escalate….Iran is nuclear but everything I am hearing is Soleimani he a big terrorist…leader…. I just hope the Iranian protests were not orchestrated to cause a strike by the U.S. to initiate a war, or the Islamist movement doesn’t activate in going after the U.S., how they found him is amazing. The President said it, he will not turn down saving Americans. Wow

    • revereridesagain says

      Jan 2, 2020 at 10:08 pm

      Because appeasing them and sending them pallets of hundreds of million$$$ works out so well.

    • Flip says

      Jan 2, 2020 at 10:49 pm

      I think you would like the article “Ten Steps to End Jihad Against the West” by Craig Biddle. Step 8 explains how a proper self-defense does not inflame or escalate. To quote the article:

      Claims to the effect that “killing jihadists will cause more jihad” are absurd.

      First, jihadists cannot attack or plan or plot or recruit if they are dead. And Islamic regimes cannot spawn or sponsor jihad if they do not exist.

      Second, in the wake of a campaign of total destruction of Islamic regimes and jihadist groups that have attacked us in the name of an allegedly all-powerful “Allah,” even the dimmest mullahs and jihadists who escaped destruction would have to wonder whether Allah is as great and powerful as they had assumed. They might even begin to doubt his existence.

      “If Allah is not willing or able to save us or our regimes from the retaliatory wrath of the West,” they might wonder, “then maybe he’s not all he’s cracked up to be . . .” The more intelligent survivors might make substantially deeper and broader connections: “Maybe, instead of serving Allah, we should serve ourselves. Maybe we should do what those triumphant, wealthy, happy Westerners do, and go by reason rather than faith; be productive rather than destructive; pursue life and happiness rather than death and martyrdom; establish rights-respecting republics rather than rights-violating theocracies . . .”

      Of course, not all surviving jihadists would pause and think. Some would doggedly persist in their efforts to murder Westerners. But such mathematically challenged jihadists would be relatively few in number, and Western forces could hunt them down and eliminate them in short order.

      Third, any Muslims who attack Westerners because we killed jihadists who murdered our countrymen were already with the enemy and are now just making it known. This information is beneficial to us because it enables us to identify and kill these newly exposed jihadists as well—and to do so sooner rather than later, affording them less time to plan, plot, recruit, murder.

      • PRCS says

        Jan 3, 2020 at 6:15 am

        Interesting post.

    • Infidel says

      Jan 2, 2020 at 11:40 pm

      I’m glad that he’s been killed, but I’m hoping that this doesn’t result in an escalation of the conflict. As in more soldiers having to go there. Yeah, if escalation simply means bombing Iranian targets but not trying to re-create their country, I’m fine w/ it But I’m not sure that the US is capable of it

      • wildbronco26 says

        Jan 3, 2020 at 3:56 am

        We have a President that has the intestinal fortitude to use direct force in order to protect American Lives. This was a Targeted Strike, and the targets were destroyed, if it becomes necessary to initiate more such strikes we now have a President who will order it and see to it that it is done. We no longer have a lace panty wearing, hankie stomping cry baby in the White House, Thank You God.

      • PRCS says

        Jan 3, 2020 at 6:17 am

        Good post.

        *Given that attempting to recreate Afghanistan was such a resounding success.

        • Jeff Gonez says

          Jan 3, 2020 at 7:16 am

          Afghanistan is far more primitive and barbaric. There may be hope for Iran.

        • Infidel says

          Jan 3, 2020 at 7:46 am

          And Iraq itself!

          Also, when I wrote that the US is not capable of it, I meant that the US was not capable of not being the great rebuilder trying to leave a better country than they found. Not that they’re incapable of bombing Iranian targets.

          Just in case it wasn’t obvious

        • PRCS says

          Jan 3, 2020 at 8:27 am

          There may be hope for Iran.

          But NOT for us to do.

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 3, 2020 at 9:48 pm

          I don’t think there is much hope for any part of Dar-al-Islam to become civilized.

          But seeing us fight back against Jihad terror is a good thing.

    • Gork says

      Jan 2, 2020 at 11:48 pm

      We have had numerous presidents who have done nothing but appease or ignore the Iranian threats. What has that gotten us? They’re still the same belligerent pigs they always were.

      Keep in mind that Soleimani was in Iraq. He was working with aligned military forces and attacking US interests (our embassy). This was no attack on Iranian soil and this man was definitely working in a military capacity. This is pretty brazen, even for a country like Iran.

      Appeasement hasn’t done a damned thing. I do not fault the President for authorizing this response. Maybe a show of force and intelligence prowess will help bring about a better diplomatic footing.

      • PRCS says

        Jan 3, 2020 at 6:25 am

        “Appeasement hasn’t done a damned thing.”

        Well, it HAS DONE many damned things!

        *Operative word: damned.

    • SKA says

      Jan 3, 2020 at 1:23 am

      Not yet nuclear

    • Phil Copson says

      Jan 4, 2020 at 7:01 am

      “….I just hope the Iranian protests were not orchestrated to cause a strike by the U.S. to initiate a war….”
      ——————————————————————————————–
      Terrorists – and terrorist states – keep pushing all the time to test the limits – Trump (and the West in general…) didn’t respond militarily to the attacks on tankers in the Straits of Hormuz, the shooting down of a US drone, or the attack on Saudi oil-installations – so the Iranians just kept on going to see whether the US would just keep on sucking it up, the way Obama would have.

      The only people careless of whether a war breaks out or not, are the Iranian govt; if the US don’t respond, then they’ve scored another massive propaganda victory which helps their grip on power and disheartens the opposition at home, and encourages China, Russia, N.Korea and terrorist organisations world-wide to regard America as a paper tiger.

      Alternatively, there is war – in which case they calculate the population at home will get behind the regime, and they will receive financial support from other muslim countries, and the cowardly EU which runs to do their bidding at every turn.

      Starting a war over the Falklands to get the restive population to support an unpopular regime didn’t work out too well for the military junta in Argentina, the same tactic might also back-fire on the mullahs.

      By responding to the provocation over the embassy – and repaying it with interest in the form of Suleimani – Trump has now put the ball back firmly in the mullah’s court – let’s see who blinks first.

  5. awake says

    Jan 2, 2020 at 10:29 pm

    Happy New Year.

    Boom!

    • Infidel says

      Jan 2, 2020 at 11:41 pm

      Awake

      Happy New Year to you as well!

      Yeah, the year started w/ a BANG!

  6. Flip says

    Jan 2, 2020 at 10:45 pm

    The number one problem with the military since 1945 is that they use self-sacrificial rules of engagement that value American soldiers less than the citizens of enemy countries. This moral cowardice is appeasement. The terms “backlash, proportionality, and measured” were never used in wars that the U.S. actually won. Do whatever is necessary to end the jihadist movement and go back to normal peaceful life. And minimize the risk to American soldiers at all costs. All collateral damage and civilian deaths are the fault of the aggressor–the jihadists and the supporters of the jihadist / theocracy movement–not the U.S. that is acting in self-defense.

    • PRCS says

      Jan 3, 2020 at 6:35 am

      “The terms “backlash, proportionality, and measured” were never used in wars that the U.S. actually won.”

      There is less suffering when warfare is quick, brutal, and decisive.

  7. Relic says

    Jan 2, 2020 at 11:21 pm

    splash 1

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 3, 2020 at 9:52 pm

      The problem I had with the original Top Gun–fun movie though it was–is that is never once says who it is that we were fighting. (One presumes the Soviets, but the movie does not make this clear). Also, after the battle was won, there was never any indication that the conflict might continue in any form. Basically, it was like winning a high-stakes video game.

  8. Bezelel says

    Jan 2, 2020 at 11:50 pm

    It’s like khomeanie said, Trump can’t do anything. That’s why he sent helicopters.

    • Bezelel says

      Jan 3, 2020 at 2:33 pm

      Gateway Pundit wrote.
      Meme Created of President Trump Awarding Medal of Honor to” Drone” that Killed Soleimani
      I read before and can’t find the article, that Apache Helicopters did the deed. I’m OK either way.
      I have also read that Iran sponsored the attack on Benghazi. Shame is you can only kill him once.

      • Bezelel says

        Jan 3, 2020 at 7:43 pm

        https://www.debka.com/top-iranian-commander-qassem-soleimani-reported-killed-in-us-air-strike/
        [The raid was carried out by US assault helicopters] early Friday, Jan. 3 and is said to have killed seven people. US Mid East bases and Israel are on a high state of preparedness for repercussions from Iran.

        I knew I read it, still a case of the end justifying the means. Happy New Year to ALL

  9. TimC says

    Jan 2, 2020 at 11:52 pm

    This is fantastic. Not only was the response quick, it was extremely precisely-targeted/high value. This will give Iran (and all the other problem players here) quite a bit to ponder in terms of a) capabilities and b) will. New sheriff in town, indeed.

  10. Wellington says

    Jan 3, 2020 at 12:07 am

    Another dead Islamic terrorist—the only good kind.

    And message to the theocratic thugs who rule Iran: Don’t mess with Trump.

    • PRCS says

      Jan 3, 2020 at 6:39 am

      I’m not sure the theocrats CAN accept that message…publicly.

      • Infidel says

        Jan 3, 2020 at 7:48 am

        True – they might interpret that as the will of allah.

        On that, I think we can all agree

        • PRCS says

          Jan 3, 2020 at 8:30 am

          In the very unlikely event that the clerics don’t really belief the Holy Fairy Tale–they’d never admit that–publicly.

    • Wellington says

      Jan 3, 2020 at 12:25 pm

      Publicly, PRCS, there is a great deal the totalitarians who run Iran cannot admit but what they think (and fear) privately is of course a different matter. Bad guys should fear the good guys far more than the other way around. Much better for the preservation of civilization if they do.

      • PRCS says

        Jan 4, 2020 at 1:11 am

        No doubt.

  11. CogitoErgoSum says

    Jan 3, 2020 at 12:07 am

    Not everyone in Iran is upset about this. Many are quite happy:

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/01/iranians-thank-president-trump-for-killing-soleimani-using-hashtag-tnxpotus4soleimani/

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 3, 2020 at 12:11 am

      Thank you, CogitoErgoSum.

  12. Terry Gain says

    Jan 3, 2020 at 1:32 am

    Winning. I love it. Praise President Trump.

  13. Chand says

    Jan 3, 2020 at 2:45 am

    First shots of a war with Iran?

    • PRCS says

      Jan 3, 2020 at 6:52 am

      HOPEFULLY a shot that will help the Mullah’s understand the consequences of not just such a war, but of retaliations which can–(likely always)–be traceable to themselves.

  14. Matt says

    Jan 3, 2020 at 3:50 am

    WTC 7 was proven to be a controlled demolition.

    • Infidel says

      Jan 3, 2020 at 7:57 am

      Yeah, and all those ISIS beheadings were advanced head-replacement surgeries by the most advanced surgeons from allah

      Gen Soleimani was riding in an SUV? We did right to blow him up: @$$hole was contributing to climate change. Also, the deputy commander Muhandis – his name reminds me of Gandhi (whose first name was Mohandas). I had an extra chuckle hearing about him being dispatched to allah

    • Wellington says

      Jan 3, 2020 at 12:30 pm

      Proven by whom? There was no controlled demolition. Popular Mechanics debunked this long ago, first in an article in 2005 and then in a book in 2006.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 3, 2020 at 9:54 pm

      What a load of crap from “Matt”. Good posts by Infidel and Wellington.

  15. Bikinis not Burkas says

    Jan 3, 2020 at 3:56 am

    Nothing happens unless Allah wills it.

    • PRCS says

      Jan 3, 2020 at 6:54 am

      Just gotta wonder if the all-seeing, all-hearing, all-knowing “Allah” foresaw bikinis.

    • FYI says

      Jan 3, 2020 at 9:23 am

      Absolutely true…

      “No calamity befalleth save by allah’s leave”
      koran 64 v 11

      {allah took out his “prophet” muhammed by allowing him to die after ingesting poisoned meat,thus PROVING he was a FALSE prophet.what a calamity befell allah’s “prophet”!}

      allah must have given soleimani’s co-ordinates away….as the catastrophe must have been permitted by allah:and muslims cannot argue with allah’s koranic word can they?

      What a calamity befell soleimani which according to the koran,was clearly allah’s will:maybe he wasn’t grateful enough or didn’t spend enough time “praying”…

  16. Xero_G says

    Jan 3, 2020 at 4:36 am

    This evening, CNN has been referring to Solemani as “Iran’s most revered military figure”. MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow interviewed Ben Rhodes (Obama adviser and co-author of Iran’s Nuclear “Deal”) and Rhodes said he’s certain that Donald Trump does not have the mental capacity to deal with such a complicated issue as Iran.

    So Mr. Rhodes, according to your superior intellect, how many pallets of American dollars would you advise we send Iran this time, in order to bring peace?

    • Infidel says

      Jan 3, 2020 at 7:50 am

      Just like CNN has CNN-Turk, which is a propaganda mouthpiece for Erdogan, they might as well open up CNN-Iran, and inaugurate it by covering Soleimani’s funeral, wherever it is.

      It’s not like they’re on good terms w/ Trump or the GOP

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 3, 2020 at 9:56 pm

      Right now pundits at CNN and MSNBC are bemoaning Trump having taken out this murderous Muslim thug.

  17. Me says

    Jan 3, 2020 at 6:42 am

    72 ugly virgins from Vatican City are his reward

    • Quazgaa says

      Jan 3, 2020 at 8:19 pm

      Virginians, not virgins.

  18. Christopher Watson says

    Jan 3, 2020 at 7:26 am

    I just can’t get over it. Trump just keeps doing wonderful things!

    • Infidel says

      Jan 3, 2020 at 7:52 am

      He keeps winning and winning and winning and winning…. I’m not yet at the point where I’ll beg my congressman or senator (actually I won’t: they’re all Dems) to go to him and say, “Please, please, Mr President, we can’t take any more of this winning….” 😅

      But I think it’ll soon get there!

    • Wellington says

      Jan 3, 2020 at 12:32 pm

      Indeed, and this keeps driving the Democrats nuts—what a bonus.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 3, 2020 at 9:56 pm

      I find I’m not tired of winning yet…

  19. Ronen says

    Jan 3, 2020 at 7:31 am

    congrats westerners!!!

  20. Dr. Doom says

    Jan 3, 2020 at 11:30 am

    Can’t do anything? I beg to differ.

  21. OLD GUY says

    Jan 3, 2020 at 1:47 pm

    God blessed America, thank you President Trump and are fine military for a job well done. Backing down is never the answer to Iran.

  22. Giacomo Latta says

    Jan 3, 2020 at 4:25 pm

    So why did Soleimani have to go to Iraq to personally direct his supposedly ace Quds Force? They looked like a band of ragamuffins to me. Good riddance.

  23. Giacomo Latta says

    Jan 3, 2020 at 4:30 pm

    Famous last words: what’s a drone?

  24. Roderick MacUalraig says

    Jan 3, 2020 at 8:12 pm

    I’m curious to know from those that voted for DJT on whether any of you believed him, back when he was running for office, about getting the American men and women in uniform, and the American taxpayers, out of all the ME bullshit. I did. And I feel like a sucker. Esper and Pompeo are out there saying Iran needs to behave like a normal country?! Does he mean like our ally Saudi Arabia and some of the other shit shows we do business with over there? This is all absurd to me. How long are smart people going to accept the government’s lies so that the Military-Industrial-Media Complex can continue to be made wealthy off the blood and broken backs of American men and women in uniform?

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 3, 2020 at 9:58 pm

      Bad dhimmis–why don’t you just roll over for Muslims murdering Americans? It would certainly make Roderick MacUalraig happy.

      • Roderick MacUalraig says

        Jan 3, 2020 at 11:45 pm

        Please tell me you don’t believe that I advocate for not defending ourselves.

        I do not. I think when it’s time to destroy the enemy we ought to, with total victory so the same enemies on the same ground doesn’t have to be revisited.

        I’m not mourning this man’s passing.

        But I’m with Tucker Carlson on this one.

        Aloha.

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 4, 2020 at 12:04 am

          Kind of all over the map, really.

        • Demsci says

          Jan 4, 2020 at 7:22 am

          I like to reply to this one. I know many wave this off, but the difference with the war in Iraq is that Iran is on a course to acquire nuclear weapons. And this regime has this apocalyptic outlook. Meaning that perhaps with them in de future Mutually Assured Destruction, MAD, does not work. And they are so intent on destroying Israel and America. Moreover this regime can blackmail the world with a nuclear bomb. This is the danger John Bolton sees. This is different, more dangerous, from the war against Iraq, which he, and I, was in favor of. But in hindsight people like me regret the endless futile nation building and fighting.

          I would agree with Tucker Carlson, whom I admire, but for that one, nuclear, aspect. But for that aspect it would make no difference for me if Iran established this neo-Persian empire, in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon. And if the ISIS caliphate had not been so stupid as to try to take on the whole world, I would be in favor of letting them be too. But nooooo, they had to kill all these Westerners, Christians, Gays, other civilians in this barbaric manner, they had to destroy priceless archeological artifacts.

        • Demsci says

          Jan 4, 2020 at 7:28 am

          What Pompeo is talking about, I think, is the difference between Iran first and Islam first. The Saudi’s, with all their bad behavior, put their nation first, as is considered normal behavior of a state. They are using Islam in part for their own benefit.

          The Iranian regime wants to export is’s ideology. They see themselves not as Iranians first, of the Islamic variety. But as Muslims of the Iranian, Shiite, variety. They are using Iran for the benefit, expansion of Islam.

        • Demsci says

          Jan 4, 2020 at 7:48 am

          Some historians say that warfare as we define it now. developed in Sumeria, ancient Iraq, around 3000 BC, with warring city states.

          In war’s 5000 year history there always were many warmongers, war profiteers. If anything, their number per capita, dwindled, especially after 1945, with the atom bomb.

          The military industrial complex (MIC) exists, profits from war, and IS war-mongering.
          But many other incentives for war, like land grabbing, or sheer revenge or royal abuse of power, have disappeared. MIC is a remnant, not something recent.
          However, they face very strong peace-opponents, with good arguments, and broad popular support, even in the person of pres. Trump. Who did fire John Bolton, remember?

          Tucker Carlson however, strikes me as a war-commenter really talking about the LAST war, that in Afghanistan and Iraq, making him obsolete. There is more at stake now than in 2001-2003, especially with new technology involved.

          If Iranian ayatollahs and IRGC leaders are as apocalyptic agressive as some think they are, then Tucker too makes a GAMBLE, of letting Iran have the nuclear weapon eventually, WITH the long distance missiles. And then what? Is it not probable that the miserable consequence of THAT is much worse than trying to stop Irans regime now? Isn’t Tucker not behaving like an austrich a little bit?

          And don;t forget, “Tucker”, If America won’t stop Irans nukes, Israel will. And Iran knows it but still wants that bomb, complete with delivering precision missiles, right on Israels doorstep. Which means that Tuckers gamble almost Certainly will lead to a grand conflagration! And he should own the risk of HIS GAMBLE, instead of acting as if war with Iran is only the result of warmongers seeking prophit.

        • Infidel says

          Jan 4, 2020 at 11:06 am

          I normally agree w/ Tucker Carlson, even on the war issue. And he’s right to ask the obvious question: What’s the next move? And unlike people on the Left, he looks at it from a singular point: what’s the benefit to the US? And it’s not irrelevant to ask why does terrorism from Iran have a higher priority over drug cartels from Mexico, when the latter is killing Americans within the US. It’s the 30,000 ft view of things.

          It’s also relevant that some of the supporters of this move are rooting for regime change. If the Iranians themselves topple their regime and do whatever, it’s one thing. But given how our last 2 experiments at regime change went – Afghanistan and Iraq, as well as the one in Libya and the failed attempt in Syria, that’s one thing that I part company on w/ the GOP. Bolton’s tweet rooting for regime change was about as stupid as his comments about the Libya model wrt North Korea, which made Kim Jong Un really nervous about dealing w/ him.

          The US must absolutely see to it that Iran doesn’t get a nuke, but it should also do something about Pakistan’s nukes. Like send a MOAB to Gwador, which is where they test their nukes. However, beyond that, though, don’t overplay your hand. If Iran totally collapses, it will be a happy hunting ground for both Arabs and Turks, and then we’d either have to prevent them from being taken over, or let one of those groups take over and then be a real threat to Israel. Right now, the treaty that the Arabs have w/ Israel is like al Hudaybiyya

          It’s also true that the more US troops that are sent in there also strengthen’s China, since there are less troops in the Pacific rim, and also, China has been busy increasing its influence in not just Asia and Africa but also Latin America. W/ the US becoming a net energy exporter, there ain’t a reason to give so much attention to the Middle East anymore: let Iran, Turkey and Saudi Arabia duke it out for the leadership of Islam. Instead, first focus on reducing China’s influence everywhere, including if possible Russia, and then go on to strengthen our allies.

        • Roderick MacUalraig says

          Jan 4, 2020 at 6:29 pm

          GI, if you think that’s so about me then please let me make myself perfectly clear: I am 100% for murdering the enemy. And my enemy is anyone that would try to take the natural rights from my countrymen and I. I am 100% for any dhimmi or slave rising up against their oppressor. I’ve assisted the dhimmi in rising up against his oppressor.

          IF it’s a fact that our men and women in uniform were threatened by possible attacks from this man and his chums then naturally I have no issue with handling business as it’s supposed to be handled.

          I’ve actually been chastised aboard this site in the past because of things I’ve said about killing, it’s necessity and my lack of issues in doing it, ironically.

          My question to everyone is, why so ready to swallow what our government is telling us about what’s happening over there hook, line and sinker based on all the lies that were told and how all this got started? May not count for much because millions of us went, but I was there. I saw and participated in the death and destruction that our government caused.

          Bottom line for me is that we’re having so many problems in our own country that aren’t getting the attention and funding they deserve. So why are we allowing the government and the offense industry to continue to waste our blood and treasure needlessly overseas? I know PDJT was handed a shit sandwich by his predecessors, and I try to trust that he’s keeping his word to the people that put him in office while handling things there with the aim of PEACE. And it’s not as if I don’t think he has any feathers in his cap. I do. Mainly cleaning up ISIS.

          Is my view radical? The view that we should focus on America’s needs first, which we already can’t manage, before we’re allowing the weapons industry and a lying, corrupt government to drag us into more endless war operations in the ME?

          I want to re-iterate: I’m for killing the enemy by the millions if necessary. I wouldn’t be happy about it, but I would support it to resist my and your rape and slavery by tyrants.

          I appreciate everyone taking the time to voice an opinion on this in reply as I’m not a herd or cult thinker… I had a few more points to bring up in response to everyone but there’s little time today. Training to be done after all! Ironically and in fact, training to kill.

          I want to hear opinions from all angles, truly.

          ALOHA!

    • Roderick MacUalraig says

      Jan 9, 2020 at 1:15 am

      Do you believe me, GI? That I would fight and kill as much as I had to to prevent your rape and slavery?

      There are men and women in government that have betrayed my efforts and those of my strongest brothers.

      I want to go deeper here.

      It doesn’t have to be you.

      Anyone out there?

      I want to talk to someone who knows what’s going on here.

      Don’t be afraid.

  25. Bezelel says

    Jan 4, 2020 at 11:03 am

    Demsci, I agree with your concerns that inaction would allow the incremental progression of Iran’s obvious course. Tucker, who I usually agree with, seems to ignore the fact that we a President who I’m confident has already addressed his concerns prior to the decision to act. For 8yrs with obamud in charge I had No confidence in his decisions. Especially in the one to stand down support for Benghazi and sending Pallets of cash to Iran etc etc…I hope Tucker and anyone else who disagrees with our forces defending themselves, that Iran has a say in what happens next. Solomani was declared a terrorist and fair game for taking. Has anyone asked WTF was he up to in Bagdad? I remember obamud threatening to use force to stop Israel from attacking Iran’s nuclear facilities. Iran has not kept their intentions secret. Everyone knows their plan to destroy Israel and anyone who stands in their way. They have been preparing for a decisive overwhelming attack. EVERYBODY knows this. Ignoring it will not stop them. Feeding rabid dogs hoping they eat you last is not a strategy. We don’t have to want a war with Iran to end up in a war with Iran.

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