The Qur’an contains numerous condemnations of homosexual activity: “And [We had sent] Lot when he said to his people, ‘Do you commit such immorality as no one has preceded you with from among the worlds? Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a transgressing people.’…And We rained upon them a rain [of stones]. Then see how was the end of the criminals.” (Qur’an 7:80-84)
Muhammad specifies the punishment for this in a hadith: “The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, ‘Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Loot, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.’” (Sunan Abu Dawud 4462)
Yet gay rights advocates still hold up signs reading “Queers Against Islamophobia,” and steadfastly refuse to say a word about Islam’s death penalty for homosexuality. It has long been established that in the hierarchy of politically correct causes, Islam trumps gay rights. When AFDI ran ads highlighting the mistreatment of gays in Islamic law, the San Francisco Board of Supervisors issued a resolution condemning not that mistreatment, but our ads. Gay advocates such as Theresa Sparks and Chris Stedman attacked us for daring to call attention to the institutionalized mistreatment of gays under Islamic law. It was that, or risk not being invited to the best parties.
“10 men jailed in Mauritania over ‘gay party’ video,” AFP, January 29, 2020 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
Prosecutors in the Mauritania, where homosexuality is outlawed, have detained and charged 10 young men after a video presented as a “gay marriage” surfaced, a legal source said Tuesday.
“The prosecutor’s office sent the young homosexual delinquents to prison to await judgment for acts contrary to morality, committing acts forbidden by Allah and circulating a ceremony of debauchery,” a source told AFP.
Prosecutors in the capital Nouakchott detained the men late Monday, the source said.
The 10 were involved in a ceremony on January 11, footage of which appeared on social media, in the local press and in that of neighbouring countries such as Senegal.
Reports initially described the event as the first “gay marriage” in Mauritania, an Islamic republic that bans homosexual practices. The men were arrested a week after the ceremony.
Police Commissioner Mohamed Ould Nejib, speaking on television, said investigators had established that the party was “the birthday celebration of a homosexual” to which other gays had been invited….
Article 308 of Mauritania’s criminal code, which is based on the Sharia Islamic law, bans homosexual behaviour between Muslim adults, describing it as “acts against nature.”
Photo by Bertramz – Own work, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=12571723
Halal Bacon says
Islamic Republic of Mauritania: 10 men jailed over ‘bacha bazi’ video
there, fixed it
gravenimage says
A Muslim state would not imprison people over child rape–that is perfectly Halal. They only have a problem with consensual same sex relations.
gravenimage says
Islamic Republic of Mauritania: 10 men jailed over ‘gay party’ video
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What will happen to these poor men? God, I hate Islam.
Martin says
video –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rBKQ8HsYto
Martin says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv1iIHnjqVY
gravenimage says
Thank you for those links, Martin.
Minas says
Besides incorporating many pagan beliefs, customs and practices when Muhammed and Satan invented his evil religion, he also used Jewish and Orthodox Christian customs and beliefs in his new cult of death. For example, women dressing modestly and covering their heads, which traditional Orthodox Christians women still do when attending church services. Another was the condemnation of homosexuality, which in today’s world is frowned upon and attacked as archaic and unloving. The same as “islamophobe’s” are viewed by those “enlighted ones” of the modern world.
I must agree with Islam slightly on this one point, that homosexuality is a sin, perhaps not the worse of sins, but sin nevertheless. Heterosexual relations outside of church wedlock is also considered a sin. In proper traditional Orthodoxy one would be refused Holy Communion until they repented and did some form of penance for a time. Of course I certainly don’t believe homosexuals should be stoned to death or thrown off a rooftop, but at the risk of sounding judgemental I believe things have gotten way too crazy in the world as far as transsexuals, gay marriage, etc. I’m against all the gay crap being pushed on everyone to accept or else. If someone wants to practice homosexuality OK, but don’t tell me it’s fine to teach my kids that it’s normal when my faith says otherwise. God will judge their personal sins just as He will judge my own and others.
For the record, I’m much more against the world telling me I’m wrong to believe that the god of Islam is the same God that I worship, I know better. Christians, Jews and Muslims certainly do not worship the same god, not where I come from. If all this makes me a bigoted POS then so be it.
Rufolino says
You appear to suffer from a sort of religious paranoia about homosexuality.
This sort of thing is to be seen all over the internet, especially on right-wing Catholic sites, which are sometimes obsessional in their hatred.
This often represents self-hate. Same-sex desire, however faint, is present in most human beings. It’s a fact of life. You would probably feel much better just accepting reality instead of stamping on it.
Minas says
Sorry if I offended your gayness, let me guess, your a amateur psychiatrist who enjoys helping people find their inner queerness, right? Well have fun while you can. We exist in this world for a very short time, then comes judgement. I suppose you think I’m Islamophobic also. BTW, I’m not Roman Catholic nor am I a member of the World Orthodox under the Heresiarch Bartholomew (Turkish government approved leader of the Greek Rum) who are in communion with the Grand Imam Francis. I am a member of the GOC of Greece.
Naildriver says
Well said Rufolino, though Minor does make some good points and raises some interesting questions.
Islam itself has a strange relationship with gay impulses and twists the activity into a regular institution as with young boys being used in places as Afghanistan and other Islamic intense areas. Islam is all about encouraging the lowest most impulsive aspects in a man’s character – is sex a ‘low’ impulse as anger, revenge, fear, self pity, blood lust and other emotions of impulsive limbic inclinations Islam feeds on?
The West is superior for its restraint of our animal impulses.
As gay life becomes more accepted it can be practiced with restraint as well – as to not infringe upon the lives of others, and there is a learning curve as laws against it are relaxed. But I don’t think the world is destined to return to the draconian practices furthered by semi Stone Age religion nor should it.
That’s the danger of Islam to progress, as it appeals to impulsive and dangerous people, as the poster boy of bigotry for their violence. The Right is not immune to that,and as we can see the Left certainly isn’t.
Minas says
You make some good points too Maledriver. BTW, my name is Minas not Minor.
Naildriver says
Yes, I made some good points, but misspelled your name. It wasn’t deliberate nor intended to insult as your response took it. I just haven’t noticed you before and found your ‘ good’ point’s rather as a means to make a true observation; as an opportunity to do what I do here, which is give if I can some help to those to understand the threat of Islamic Jihad, so that they can in turn, present true arguments that fight this scourge, Islam, and it’s growth.
You on the other had are a flamer, little guy. One who sees on such threads an opportunity to thrash people — what, are you 14?
One always has to deal with flaming minions to bigotry, particularly whenever Islam’s treatment of gays come up. And, as expected they are more concerned with trashing gays than dealing with the subject.
My post had nothing to do with gays really, but Islam’s low character. Yours was low character and wastes everyone’s time here. And your name isn’t Minas is it? Goat boy maybe? Given your friendly position to lslam’s low obsessions.
gravenimage says
Minas, Christianity does not teach the murder of homosexuals.
And Naildriver is right–in Islam pedophilia and homosexual rape to humiliate is fine–it is only adult consensual same sex relations that are condemned.
As for Islam being “modest”, what do you find “modest” about forced veiling, polygamy, forced marriage, child marriage, and the rape of Infidels? None of this is about modesty.
MINAS says
Why don’t you re read what I wrote . I said I don’t believe Homosexuals should be murdered because they are gay. Don’t try to insinuate I’m on the side of Islam and agree with it.
I told him to shut up cause he’s a dildo accusing me of things I haven’t said, like you are doing right now. This forum is so tribal with all you self important arm chair analysts. So I tell you to shut up too. Your disturbed by what I have to say, oh well.
MINAS says
You certainly aren’t qualified to teach me anything about Christianity Don’t try to insinuate I said these things, your being very dishonest twisting my words. Please shut up and quit pretending you know what your talking about, like your gay buddy is doing here
Minas says
I never said I found veiling, polygamy, forced marriage, child marriage, and the rape of Infidels modest or acceptable. I was making a point that if anything good is to be found in Islam was borrowed from Christianity by thrice accursed Mohamed and his crew in order to make it appear that Islam is actually spiritual and pleasing to the Lord, it isn’t . Again, please be honest, stop vilifying my words and shut up, your making yourself look stupid..
gravenimage says
I was stating Christianity’s stance on this–Minas can consider this an insult to himself if he so desires, but it is very odd.
And how does anyone here stating the truth make them appear stupid? Minas does not say.
And now Minas is telling me to shut up, as well.
One of the main things Jihad Watch does is champion freedom of speech. Quite disturbing that Minas does not respect that.
MINAS says
Are you stuck on stupid? Reread my original reply and try understanding what I wrote. Stop twisting my words and try being honest. Somehow this forum doesn’t appear to be all about being a champion of freedom of speech like you claim. Do you think your the only one here who has a right to express their opinions without you slandering them. You don’t impress me in a good way at all, I don’t care how long you’ve been running your mouth here.
gravenimage says
Minas can slander Anti-Jihadists here if he so desires. I don’t think this says much for the points–if any–that he is trying to make, though.
Minas says
I would be happy to listen to you provide you made some sense. Your making a a big deal and misrepresenting my original post, misrepresenting my response to Rufolino’s accusation of me having gay feelings myself because I said homosexuality is still considered a sin in any Orthodox understanding and misrepresenting and perpetuating your other buddy Nails’ lies about me being a jihadist. I must say, you, and the other two members of your gay trinity are full of crap and in no ways any authority on Christianity. So you can try to fancy yourself some kind of ant-jihadist and authority on Christianity but the truth is your dreaming. I says this to the three of you, your neither Christian or anti-jihadists and you do nothing but run your mouths here tooting your own horns pretending to be some kind of experts on all subjects. I believe the only ones here that feel disturbed by my comments are you three, too bad for you.
gravenimage says
Actually, Minas has no idea what other Anti-Jihadists do besides posting on Jihad Watch. That he believes he does is very strange.
And Minas can certainly spout apologia for Islam if he so desires–that he considers opposing it to be “stupid” is very disturbing, though.
Battle says
Minas: +100.
The homo-facists hate you and cover up their hate by falsely accusing you.
Minas says
Thanks Battle.
Minas says
Oh sorry I interrupted your flow here Mr. Naildriver, I’m just a young kid here like you say, I didn’t realize you were such a respected Big Shot around here, what with you helping people understand and fight the scourge of Islam and all. Please keep us all informed when your next book is published.
Of course you haven’t had time to notice me before, what with you being such a VIP around here. Sorry to contradict you but my name really is Minas. Certainly you didn’t mean to misspell my name as “Minor”, you just forgot where the “A” and the “S” are on your keyboard, right?. Hint: their right next to each other, second letter row down, far left. The “O” and the “R” may be found on the line above, separated by four letters. Perhaps you forgot to wear your reading glasses when you wrote your discourse.
I think you should change your moniker to “Goatherder”, that is what you do in real life, isn’t it? I make no apologies for my, nor my Orthodox Christian church beliefs on homosexuality. I’m guessing you must be godless like your buddy Rufolino, so how could you be expected to understand anything spiritual.
One more thing Gerbil boy. I’m 63 years old and I know very well about the threat of Islam as my family has experienced it directly. My father’s side of the family were expelled Asia Minor Greeks and my mother had gotten scammed out of her property in Michigan some 40 years ago by some scumbag Syrian Muslims. So please shut up.
gravenimage says
Why is Minas demanding that Anti-Jihadist Naildriver shut up? Very disturbing stuff.
As for his innocently misspelling Minas’s name, I’ve had my own username misspelled many times here over the years. In almost every case this has been unintentional, and I accept it as such.
Naildriver says
I stand by what I said — you or your name meant nothing to me in my first post — I attribute the spelling, in fact, to ‘spell check’, since I think I might have edited ‘Minor’ had I seen it so spelled on my phone — but I confess you didn’t matter that much to me to double check.
It’s also assumed all here are using pseudonyms for personal protection, since any Islamic devotees looking would likely seek out any here who might do so, and murder them if given enough information.
‘Methinks the lady doth protest too much.’, Minas 64
Clearly you have issues given your subsequent tone, insults, slurs of alleging gayness, to anyone who opposes your dim views.
Minas says
Are you on any legal or illegal drugs? So your saying your using a pseudonym because you fancy yourself some kind of important anti-jihadist and are scared they plan on killing you? Man up and try to be like Robert B.Spencer. BTW, Nailz, let me know when your next anti-jihad book is coming out, it should be quite entertaining…not.
Naildriver says
Lol.
I do take pride in some of my observations — yes, Islam has a history of demented appeal to millions to go into the lowest depths of human depravity.
People more important than you may tune in. So it matters. But you evidently have your priorities all messed up. And would digress to get a punch in.
What is most obvious is your hypocrisy and lies. Certainly you read into other’s posts plenty that they don’t say — with a deliberate hostile intent, with canned retorts. Some Christian you are. Not.
And Graven sees what you are about pretty well.
MINAS says
Blah, Blah, Blah, My lies ! You must suffer from Narcissistic Personality Disorder. I really should stop addressing any more of your comments before you start thinking I really give a rats ass what you think.
gravenimage says
Does Minas have any purpose here besides insulting good Anti-Jihadists?
Firstly, many people here use pseudonyms for safety–including core Jihad Watch contributor Hugh Fitzgerald (no, this is not his legal name).
Then, I rather doubt that Minas is a given name, either–this has not been a commonly used name for some centuries. It’s possible, I suppose–but unlikely. Moreover, people using a single name online–even if it is accurate–are not particularly easy to find.
As for the rest, Naildriver and Rufolino are respected posters here–they have certainly contributed a great deal more than has apologist for Islam Minas (or MINAS, as he also spells it).