Rabih Badr’s father has a point, an Islamic point.
“The indemnity for the death or injury of a woman is one-half the indemnity paid for a man. The indemnity paid for a Jew or Christian is one-third the indemnity paid for a Muslim. The indemnity paid for a Zoroastrian is one-fifteenth that of a Muslim.” — Reliance of the Traveller, a classic manual of Islamic sacred law (o4.9)
“Thus if [a] Muslim commits adultery his punishment is 100 lashes, the shaving of his head, and one year of banishment. But if the man is not a Muslim and commits adultery with a Muslim woman his penalty is execution. … Similarly if a Muslim deliberately murders another Muslim he falls under the law of retaliation and must by law be put to death by the next of kin. But if a non-Muslim who dies at the hand of a Muslim has by lifelong habit been a non-Muslim, the penalty of death is not valid. Instead the Muslim murderer must pay a fine and be punished with the lash. … Since Islam regards non-Muslims as on a lower level of belief and conviction, if a Muslim kills a non-Muslim, then his punishment must not be the retaliatory death, since the faith and conviction he possesses is loftier than that of the man slain…Again, the penalties of a non-Muslim guilty of fornication with a Muslim woman are augmented because, in addition to the crime against morality, social duty and religion, he has committed sacrilege, in that he has disgraced a Muslim and thereby cast scorn upon the Muslims in general, and so must be executed. … Islam and its peoples must be above the infidels, and never permit non-Muslims to acquire lordship over them.” — Sultanhussein Tabandeh, A Muslim Commentary on the Universal Declaration of Human Rights
“Father of convicted murderer: ‘Marianne was not worthy of him,'” translated from “Vater von verurteiltem Mörder: ‘Marianne war seiner nicht würdig,'” UnserTirol 24, January 15, 2020 (thanks to Searchlight Germany):
The higher regional court confirmed on Tuesday the first-instance verdict against Rabih Badr for the brutal murder of his partner Marianne Obrist (UT24 reported). Badr’s father was also present at the trial. The latter defended his son and accused Obrist of infidelity.
The 39-year-old Marianne Obrist was violently murdered in her apartment in Milland near Brixen in August 2017. According to judge Peter Michaeler, her partner at the time “beat her like a stray dog” first with a stick, then with a baseball bat. Badr is said to have stabbed the 39-year-old with a knife. The Higher Regional Court confirmed a first instance ruling by the Bozen regional court on Tuesday. which means 30 years in prison for the 34-year-old.
As was evident from Judge Michaeler’s reasoning at the time, the act was culturally motivated. Badr, who comes from Morocco, killed Obrist “without mercy” and “bestially” and exemplifies radical attitudes that are incompatible with the way of life of a Western woman (UT24 reported). In Badr’s mind, the woman is subordinate to the man, the judge continued. As a result, Badr unjustly accused his partner of infidelity, and restricted and suppressed her. According to Michaeler, the motive was not jealousy, but the complete control Badr wanted to exercise over Obrist.
Although there is no evidence of contact with other men, Rabih Badr’s father continues to propagate Marianne Obrist’s alleged infidelity and takes his son under protection. “It is his fault, he has to be punished. But the punishment must not be exaggerated,” he said in an interview with the Rai. “There was a problem between him and Marianne, namely the problem of infidelity. She was not loyal to him, he dedicated his whole life to her, but Marianne was not worthy of him.”
Jim says
The “husband” should get the death penalty, and his father should be deported.
James Lincoln says
Makes sense to me, Jim.
Frank Anderson says
Jim, consider the US law idea in 18 United States Code Section 2, that of course does not apply in Germany: Anyone who aids, abets, counsels or acts in furtherance of a federal felony is equally guilty. As far as US law is concerned, the victim’s civil right to life was violated. The father certainly aided, abetted and counseled for years before the actual killing. Where else did the son learn these “instructions”? All sources would be equally guilty, IF US law applied and was prosecuted.
Frank Anderson says
Correction, US law does not apply in Italy either. Wonder if they have any similar law that would apply?
Jim says
There is no death penalty in Italy; so there is no way at this time to eliminate this monster. If there was ever a reason to have the death penalty, it would be in this case.
As for his father, I was thinking of the the best result we could expect from the courts; the most he would get, I think, would be deportation.
Frank Anderson says
Jim, deportation just makes repeat conduct more likely. It’s too little, too late. Neither he, nor anyone who might consider following his example by teaching their sons the same violence and brutality, would have the slightest reason to change course. What happens when he is deported and to whom?
gravenimage says
The murderous son should get life in prison–*actual* life in prison–and the father should be deported. In today’s Europe, neither of these things are apt to happen–although Italy is not the worst of the lot.
Rueben_Singh says
As tragic as the murder is, I just cannot fathom how any self respecting woman can get involved with a moslem.
Many years ago I was working for TFL (Transport for London) I was assisting with a survey of public transport use, my job was to visit selected people in certain postcodes.
Anyway, my work took me to lovely Surbiton, to a block of flats on the High St.
I knock on the door, and an arab opens the door.
Now I am asking him about his travel habits. which bus, train, tube he catches to get to work (he didn’t work, claimed welfare for everything) anyway, while I am filling in the form, he and a couple of other arab men were watching some arab film about the crusades. In the kitchen were a couple of really fat, women in veils. He said to me proudly, they are our wives. They were Belgian. Meek, servile, probably grateful to have a husband.
It was obvious they married them to get into the EU and then the UK.
They seem to home in on these types of women.
Sad.
somehistory says
Regarding what you wrote about “home in on these types.”
This is exactly what they do.
moslims are psychopaths. (I’ve said this for just about the entire last decade,) Psychopaths look for…and they are very good at knowing for what to look…those who will be easily fooled and manipulated. I read a book with a lot of examples of psychopaths at “work” on family members, strangers, work-mates, etc. These people look for certain “types” that they can manipulate so that the victims believe they are doing something good…and much of the time…feel that they are being “loved and adored” by the psychopath who is manipulating them and their thinking processes.
When the use of the victim has run its course, the psychopath will look for another victim to use.
And, sadly, there are women who believe that they are not complete without a man…and with some, just any male…man or slime…will do. Women with low self-esteem, those who are lonely and feel unloved, feel “ugly,” or unattractive, are easy prey for the psychopath…and moslim psychopaths are adept at finding these women.
tonyf says
exactly notice no mental institutions in moslem countries
gravenimage says
Awful but not surprising, Rueben.
Somehistory, Muslims targeting those who are vulnerable or who have low self-esteem is something covered in Jamie Glazov’s fine book “Jihadi Psychopath”.
somehistory says
g,
It’s been nearly 20 years since I first read Dr. Hare’s books on psychopathy. His work did not focus on moslims or islam, but they do answer a lot of questions about the behavior of a psychopath. Dr. Hare makes it plain that we all meet psychopaths in our daily lives and he helps those who wish to know, how to avoid becoming the psychopath’s victims.
When first reading Mr. Spencer’s work, I noticed the same things about moslims that Dr. Hare wrote about the people he encountered and studied in his career.
It was easy enough to see that moslims are psychopaths and prey on the vulnerable and those ones who know nothing about islam or moslims.
Outright lying and a twisting of the truth are easy for these ones and moslims make the most of lies in order to gain control over others…both in public and in private.
gravenimage says
Good point, Somehistory. I grew up in a family of (mostly) petty criminals, and noticed the parallels with Islam fairly early on.
There are psychopaths everywhere, of course, although more of them are users than are outright murderous.
But Islam is one of the very few creeds that actually teaches and sacralizes psychopathic behavior.
Save Europe says
NO way!!!!
I live 5 minutes from Surbiton! Seriously.
But you answered your on question.
>>
In the kitchen were a couple of really fat, women in veils. He said to me proudly, they are our wives.
*****
I am NOT a sexist, I’m merely being honest now. In the life lottery, there are people who are all variations on the ‘aesthetic spectrum.’ That applies to both genders. It may seem a harsh analysis, but it’s true.
I’m not Ryan Gosling and this poor woman wasn’t a beauty queen.
I would say to ANYONE who feels aesthetically inadequate – male or female – please do not involve yourselves with Muslims.
Rueben_Singh says
5 minutes away wow.
You know as you walk up the hill there is the army surplus shop on the right, then some smaller shops, one of which is a barbers, keep walking on that side, the church is opposite, and then there are these flats. It was one of those.
Love the pubs in Surbiton. I have been on pub crawls there. Problem is the pubs are so nice I just stay in one and don’t move until chucking out time.
Save Europe says
Yes Reuben, I know exactly where you mean – not far from the Wetherspoon’s, but on the opposite side.
Some mates of mine drink in Surbiton.
Although I’m Esher, I drink in Wimbledon Village.
Small world eh!
somehistory says
He should hang and his father should hang right alongside him. Such “dedication” no woman should have to endure.
This account should have a wide audience and all the females who have the idea that they can “change” one of these moslim monsters should take it to heart. moslims are out for what they can get…and they don’t know how to “love” or even appreciate another person. It’s all about having control of some female they can freely rape and beat when the mood strikes and still have dinner waiting on the table when they get home from not working.
And from the treatment the moslim gangs dish out to their young victims, they don’t mind “sharing” as long as they get something for it. This creep didn’t really “care” whether or not she was “unfaithful” to him…he just wanted to beat her to death. It was time to move on to his next victim.
Frank Anderson says
+1
The unexpected voice says
another honour killing. I hate Islam.
gravenimage says
+1
Ashley says
“Thus if [a] Muslim commits adultery his punishment is 100 lashes, the shaving of his head, and one year of banishment. But if the man is not a Muslim and commits adultery with a Muslim woman his penalty is execution. … Similarly if a Muslim deliberately murders another Muslim he falls under the law of retaliation and must by law be put to death by the next of kin. But if a non-Muslim who dies at the hand of a Muslim has by lifelong habit been a non-Muslim, the penalty of death is not valid. Instead the Muslim murderer must pay a fine and be punished with the lash. … Since Islam regards non-Muslims as on a lower level of belief and conviction, if a Muslim kills a non-Muslim, then his punishment must not be the retaliatory death, since the faith and conviction he possesses is loftier than that of the man slain…Again, the penalties of a non-Muslim guilty of fornication with a Muslim woman are augmented because, in addition to the crime against morality, social duty and religion, he has committed sacrilege, in that he has disgraced a Muslim and thereby cast scorn upon the Muslims in general, and so must be executed. … Islam and its peoples must be above the infidels, and never permit non-Muslims to acquire lordship over them.”
___________________
Three aspirin later and I still have a pounding headache from reading this…
Battle says
Ashley “Three aspirin later and I still have a pounding headache from reading this.”
+100.
gravenimage says
That’s how civilized people react to Islamic savagery, Ashley.
Carol the 1st says
So a “Muslim Commentary on the Universal Declaration of Human Rights” felt like an assault on your brain did it? Another fine tribute to their great dignity and “honor” was the father stating “But the punishment must not be exaggerated”.
I wonder if he was tenderly washing and putting away his son’s bloody baseball bat as he informed us what his rules of propriety dictated?
tim gallagher says
Interesting comments in the report above about how the knuckle dragging Muslim murderer had “attitudes that are incompatible with the way of life of a western woman”. I’d say incompatible with the way of life of any civilised human being. Islam is just totally incompatible with civilised ways of living in so many ways. I don’t like that use of the word “radical attitudes” yet again. Is it that usual BS where they say that this Muslim murderer was a “radical” and not just a common, ordinary Muslim? Also, it says that the knuckle dragger wanted “complete control”. No doubt true. Islam is so primitive and, no doubt, the male would want complete control of his possession, his wife. Also, that bit about how this knuckle dragger’s equally primitive father says, “he dedicated his whole life to her”. No doubt true. No doubt the obsessive creep dedicated his whole sick life to making his wife’s totally controlled life a complete misery.
gravenimage says
Good post, Tim.
mortimer says
Agree with Tim G. The attitude is NOT “radical”, but normatively Islamic.
Islam is systemically and structurally misogynistic.
tim gallagher says
Thanks for the comments, gravenimage and Mortimer. I’m fairly conservative and am not a great supporter of every latest, progressive trend in our western societies (eg the amount of attention transgender issues, gender fluidity, etc gets lately is a mystery to me, because it seems to matter to and affect such a small number of people) but I just keep thinking that Islam’s backward views on almost every aspect of human existence (relations between the sexes, etc) leads me to call Muslims knuckle draggers or Neanderthals ( the murderer in this report being just one example). I keep thinking it really is like looking way back in time when you look at the Muslim attitude to all aspects of life. Islam has all these primitive attitudes, which should have disappeared so long ago, and yet here this backward garbage is, still existing in our modern world. Totally incompatible with our modern societies. Mortimer, that “radical” BS annoyed me. I thought, oh, not this BS again. I was thinking that when I said this murderer’s wife was his possession, I should have also added that she was his slave. I’m sure that is their attitude.
don vito says
Before this saracen tortured his wife to death, he probably practiced on dogs and cats, shown how to torture by his father.
gravenimage says
This would not be surprising.
gravenimage says
Italy: Father of Muslim migrant who brutally murdered his non-Muslim girlfriend says “Marianne was not worthy of him”
………………..
For any civilized person who thought his son’s mate was unworthy of him, this would mean hoping they break up. For a pious Muslim, this means murder.
God, I hate Islam.
tgusa says
Father of murderous son says girlfriend was not worthy of him.
Now there’s some mental illness for you. I guess it runs in the family. Shocker!
Saman S says
If all the muslims are not expelled from Europe soon , Europe may not be able to free itself from the clutches of Islam .
No Muzzies Here says
Now we see where the man got the idea that it was OK to kill his non-Muslim girlfriend.
No sign of assimilation anywhere in sight!
Piccolino says
‘Why You Should Not Marry A Muslim Man’
Jack Diamond says
Yes, aside from overt abduction there is covert grooming prior to an abduction.
Here is some sage advice from ex-Muslim Ali Sina, for all infidel women and girls about “love jihad”:
‘Why You Should Not Marry A Muslim Man’
“Recently, I received a few emails from women who said they are in love with a Muslim man and wanted my opinion.
One thing you should know about Muslims is that you should never trust them. This blanket statement does not sound politically correct, but it is a fact.
Ask the most “open minded” liberal and irreligious Muslim who drinks and does not pray what they think of the verse 4:34 in the Koran that prescribes abusing one’s wife verbally, psychologically and beating her if the husband fears that she may be thinking of disobeying him. Note that the wife does not have to actually disobey her husband, his paranoia that she may be thinking of disobeying him is enough for him to abuse her and beat the crap out of her.
Not a single Muslim country recognizes rape of one’s wife. If a man wants to have intercourse, the wife must comply even if she is sick.
Abu Sa’id al-Khudri narrated Muhammad saying, “A husband’s right upon his wife is such that if he had an ulcer and she licked it for him, she would not fulfill his right by that.”
First the Koran limits the rights and the power of women to be independent and earn their living by restricting their movement, dress and interaction in the world. Then 4:34 says men are superior to women because they provide for them and as such women must obey their husbands and be grateful to them. Then it prescribes verbal, psychological and corporal abuse.
Ask any Muslim what they think of this verse and whether they are willing to denounce it. Then watch how they lie and beat around the bush in order to deny the obvious meaning of this verse or minimize its effect. The most ridiculous part of their denial is when they tell you you can only beat her with a toothbrush.
All Muslims believe in every word of the Koran. No Muslim will denounce a single word of the Koran. You don’t have to be Aristotle or an expert in syllogism and deductive reasoning to put the two together and come to the conclusion that you should not trust Muslims. All of them lie. All of them are deceitful. They even lie to me and think they can get away with it. For Muslims lying to advance their faith is a holy deed. It is woven in their psyche. They grow with it and do it naturally. Just as you are taught to smile when your eyes lock with the eyes of a stranger, Muslims are taught to lie to non-Muslims.
There are no moderate Muslims. There are also no radical Muslims. All Muslims believe in the same book, every word of it. They just practise it to different extents. We call those who follow their faith to the letter radical and the wishy-washy ones moderate. There is only one Islam: The Islam of Muhammad and the Koran. It is the only Islam that matters. The rest is a bunch of lies. This Islam is violent. It instructs the believer to lie to the unbelievers, to cast terror in their hearts and to murder them.
Muslim men are on the hunt for non-Muslim women so that they convert them to Islam or produce Muslim children. This is called love jihad. It has nothing to do with love, because these men will kill your freedom and suck your vitality. It is about expanding Islam and you are only a tool.
Muslim men are misogynist by their upbringing. They can’t respect their wives. They have not seen it in their own families and societies. It is not part of their psyche. The concept of equality between men and women is alien to them. Believe me I had to adjust to it myself and I did not come from a fanatical Muslim family.”
—–http://alisina.org/?p=5269
gravenimage says
Good post.
Lavéritétriomphera says
Bonsoir Frank,
I will answer to your last comment.
If US laws does not apply in Italy, both countries have something in commun: Mafia https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/17/fbi-mafia-arrests-us-italy-inzerillo-gambino. The migrants are a source of income like any other for this criminal organization and for the Nigerian mob, among others, in Europe and Africa.
Hope to read you soon!
Amitiés
Frank Anderson says
Kevin, the sad fact is that many US laws do not apply in the United States, much less in other countries, because they are ignored here. Laws enacted have little or nothing to do with laws actually enforced. Similar laws may be enacted in many countries, but never enforced, or enforced only when it suits the people in power. How many laws against murder, assault, kidnapping, false imprisonment, . . . were enforced in Nazi Germany and its occupied territories? Same thing now. People who complain about the failure to enforce laws are put in jail while the people who break the laws walk free to break more. You are getting a great education in the English language by reading here. There are plenty of stories here that describe what I mention, especially from the “UK”. Frank
Lavéritétriomphera says
Bonsoir Frank,
I continue our conversation on line.
In terms of concept jihad is a complete aberration because war is never holy, jihad has been created to salve people’s “consciences” or at least what it was left of it, and to not have to face troublesome questions.
I was not talking about the ultimate choice but there are imponderables which could influence our behavioral choices in life.
As far as I know we were not able to choose between life and death the day we were born. My mother and I have been saved by skilled attendants.
Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
In France laws are not being implemented properly for lack of sufficient human and you know better that anyone that political will is required to get a law passed.
I do not know about USA, but what makes the situation worse is that French and Italians are not disciplined.
Returning to the specific of what we’ve been talking about, it seems french government and UE believe it is particularly important to dismantling the network of organized crime on the smuggling of migrants. They are exploited and the Nigerian mafia, among others, are making big bucks. Some migrants take also advantage of the situation.
Macron is right when he say the real problem is the African soaring demography and that we must educate parents and curers to fully understand the wider benefits of schooling for girls. That is the most sensible solution to fertility control.
“ deportation just makes repeat conduct more likely. It’s too little, too late.”
Deportation would be completely unrealistic at the current stage.
For better days
Frank Anderson says
Kevin, my thoughts and opinions:
There are a number of kinds of war, some more violent and immediately deadly than others. Some take place in legal settings with the same goals of destruction and domination of opponents as others taking place on the ground. Weapons can be in many forms from pieces of paper destroying a person’s life with corrupt orders, or with bullets and bombs. One person’s quest for justice is another person’s quest for power. “Where you stand often depends on where you sit.” Some people are fooled by another person’s declaration of a “holy war” because they want to be fooled.
Part of the duty of life is making the decision to remain alive, and to make the best of the life that is a gift in trust instead of our sole property to waste. This is where some measure of reliance on a creator helps focus on improvement instead of waste.
Passing laws that are not enforced is not unique to any state or country. Lack of discipline is not solely a problem of France or Italy, but many countries, until some abusive power takes control and imposes discipline that should be self-imposed. We were taught in military school that discipline is what works when nobody is looking. Our teachers would pass out tests and leave the room. Cheating was extremely rare. But I cannot drive on the streets and highways at the legal speed limits without someone violating the law trying to make me go faster. And the local police have decided they will NOT enforce laws duly enacted prohibiting “following too closely”. Local police also pay no attention to speed limits, or seat belt laws in their own driving, for example. So, if they don’t obey the laws they have sworn to uphold, why should anyone else?
Like many problems, the choices can be described in direct terms for people who are abusing or seeking to destroy the community. 1) Let them do it without penalty. 2) Fine, imprison, or kill them; if not to teach them, at least to discourage others from imitation. 3) Exclude them. When someone makes clear an intention to destroy and enslave a community, the community has not only a Right, but a Duty, to protect itself with Effective measures. Right now, the measures being taken in many countries appear ineffective, and downright paltry.
Unless some third choice appears now that did not appear in Germany before Hitler took power, the outlook for many countries is grim. The first step to dealing with any problem is to recognize and admit the existence of the problem.
I wish you well. Frank
Lavéritétriomphera says
Bonsoir Frank,
“ There are a number of kinds of war, some more violent and immediately deadly than others …”.
I agree with you but let me say that brainwashing is the best strategy, this is achieved by repeating a mantra over and over again until the subconscious absorb it. The “mantra“ shall be used in due course, knowing that fear and logic do not go well together. It is the history of the carrot and the stick. This age-old method has stood the test of time. So some Muslims are totally sure that they will go in a paradise where at least seventy virgins are patiently waiting for them, while other Muslims are terrorized by Hell !
“Some people are fooled by another person’s declaration of a “holy war” because they want to be fooled”.
Any thoughtful person knows war cannot be holy and nobody wants to be fooled. Some are just accomplices that claim at the proper time they have been duped (Nuremberg trial). It is far to easy to say “I did not know, I was fooled”.
“Part of the duty of life is making the decision to remain alive,“
People have been fooled by religious leaders that have make life more and more difficult in many ways: let us not forget wars of religion and antisemitism has, among other things, a religious origin.
I never got to USA but I went to Canada, and they are very disciplined compared to French and Latins in general. Above all they are cleaner. Indiscipline goes with mess which often goes with dirt. France is full of monuments and works of art but I would appreciate a little more urban cleanliness and discipline in my city.
Only few people use to pay attention to speed limit in France, but is increasingly no longer the case, because of the cameras (I imagine it is).
“Like many problems, the choices can be described in direct terms for people who are abusing or seeking to destroy the community.“.
I do not trust manipulators who exploite other’s ignorance to pit people against people. Therefore I reject the views of those who prefer to take the law into their hands, they can choose the wrong target and there is nothing more idiot and unpredictable than an angry crowd. However I agree with you: we must not confuse mercy with an irresponsible indulgence.
Exclusion appears to be the option adopted by Europe’s political class, at least in France.
“The first step to dealing with any problem is to recognize and admit the existence of the problem.”.
We thus return to the initial problem regarding brainwashing which aims to keep people in ignorance while instilling in them the fear to think by themselves.
As far as I know Muslims are not allowed to recognize that Quran might not be the word of God and that islam is a man-made religion.
Peace upon you and your country
Amitiés
Frank Anderson says
Wonderful Day, Kevin,
We remember what we hear first, last and most often. All three exposures are important. Sure, over a lifetime of brainwashing, the “most often” pounded into a brain by people we follow as examples will make a deep impression, especially when those around the person being brainwashed are receiving and retransmitting the same message.
I can think right now of a truly “holy war” in recent history. Without question in my mind the war that destroyed the German and Japanese empires was as righteous and justified as I can imagine. The barbarity and rampant killing of those regimes could be ended only one way. I think General Patton was correct that while the civilized West was already mobilized and had exclusive possession of atomic weapons, Stalin and the Soviet Union should have been ended also. Look at the tens or hundreds of millions of people who died at Communist hands AFTER WWII! That could have been prevented, along with a “Cold War” that threatened to exterminate Billions.
Consider the half-measure of the first Iraq war that halted with the “liberation” of Kuwait, only to have to be resumed later after tens and hundreds of thousands more were murdered by the Saddam regime. Wars ending in truces and stalemates create more wars. The end of WWII in Europe contrasted with the end of WWI because of the decisive conclusion and the enlightened rebuilding of not only Allied and Occupied countries in the West, but also Germany (Western)
.
I suggest that very little humans do does not involve some religious question, either for or against some belief held for all kinds of reasons. It takes just as much of a religious commitment to say there is not a god as to say there is. Hitler built a regime on the delusion of a master race. Others have built empires on the promise of great after-life rewards or fear of after-life punishment. Still others have built empires on the promise of community equality and free lunch.
Look, just for an example, at all the fear that is used in Christian teaching about sin, guilt and obedience to authority. In 2000 years, there are some really embarrassing lessons that should be remembered when shaping new plans for the future.
I would be cautious in generalizing about discipline. We have a news report where a speed camera clocked a parked car at 50(?) miles per hour (probably because of a reflection from other traffic). Cameras and radar are marvelous tools for many purposes. But the human operator that uses them to present honest, fair and correct cases is to be respected while robots who either lie or make mistakes are just more totalitarian abuses of the legal system. The presumption of innocence and burden of proof are vital differences, as I understand, between Civil and Common Law systems. Honest enforcement deserves respect; while corrupt enforcement will earn total hatred and rebellion.
A number of problems exist with every presently conceivable solution including more problems. My usual example is the question of energy sources. There is no magic, problem-free choice; no free lunch.
Coal creates ash and sludge, exposes consumers to abusive railroad rates (in the US) and produces amazing quantities of carbon dioxide which may or may not be significant compared to natural sources if truly considered.
Nuclear is much more expensive than coal, with present designs allowing for only one reactor, which wastes all the plants’ non-reactor components, has a short life (40 to 60 years), magnifying its expense problem, and produces small amounts of radioactive waste if, as is done in France, but not in the US, the spent fuel is reprocessed.
Wind and solar installations do not last any longer than nuclear and probably take more energy to build, operate and retire than they produce in their useful lives, at a cost about 3 times that of nuclear. When retired they produce permanent waste.
The UK imports from the US ship loads of wood chips to burn in its power plants, at a cost of far more than, for example, coal, because the “wood is renewable”. But it takes diesel fuel to drive the ships and plant, harvest and transport the wood. Honest accounting may show that it would be less expensive to burn coal, but far less Politically Correct. And we truly return to brainwashing replacing analysis to make decisions based on emotions instead of facts. All the brainwashing in the world will never make Orwell’s 1984 prediction come true: “What is 2+2? Anything you want it to be!” I wish well for all good people and countries. Frank
gravenimage says
Lavéritétriomphera, the Mafia has been largely defanged in the US at this point–it was not easy. Of course, what we face from Islam is even worse.