These servicemen should have been investigated before they got here.
“First on CNN: More than a dozen Saudi servicemen to be expelled from US after review of December shooting at Naval Air Station,” by David Shortell and Evan Perez, CNN, January 11, 2020:
(CNN)More than a dozen Saudi servicemen training at US military installations will be expelled from the United States after a review that followed the deadly shooting last month at a Naval Air Station in Pensacola, Florida, multiple sources told CNN.
The Saudis are not accused of aiding the 21-year-old Saudi Air Force second lieutenant who killed three American sailors in the December shooting, two sources said, but some are said to have connections to extremist movements, according to a person familiar with the situation.
A number are also accused of possessing child pornography, according to a defense official and the person familiar with the situation. The FBI and Justice Department declined to comment.
“In the wake of the Pensacola tragedy, the Department of Defense restricted to classroom training programs foreign military students from Saudi Arabia while we conducted a review and enhancement of our foreign student vetting procedures,” said Lt. Col. Robert Carver, a spokesman for the Department of Defense. “That training pause is still in place while we implement new screening and security measures.”
About a dozen Saudi trainees at the Pensacola base had been confined to their quarters as the FBI investigated the shooting as a potential terror attack, and the Pentagon initiated a review of all Saudi military trainees in the country, numbering around 850 students….
Clifford Fodor says
We should have conquered Saudi Arabia after 9/11. They are the ones who are responsible, not Afghanistan.
gravenimage says
We never could have civilized a place like Saudi Arabia.
We should certainly recognize that these Muslims thugs are *not* our allies, though.
Infidel says
We were right to attack Afghanistan, but we should have attacked Pakistan as well, given Musharraf’s double-dealing. Also, once Operation Enduring Freedom was over, we should have gone after Saudi Arabia, seized Mecca and Medina, and gone through all the hate literature being peddled by the Saudis, and stamped them out.
Instead, the Saudis did a good job owning us via Bush & Cheney. But today, given that the US is a net energy exporter, that relationship should be history
Fluff says
Gone through all the hate literature? You mean the Qu’ran, hadith and other holy books of Islam?
gravenimage says
In Islam, it’s *all* hate literature. There is no way we could have civilized Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia, even if we didn’t think that Islam is a “religion of peace”.
gravenimage says
Agreed, Infidel.
CogitoErgoSum says
These guys were looking at child pornography? Muhammad would never do anything like that, would he? No, he would be a good example for these men and go out and find a real child to look at.
Infidel says
I think that once they knew that they’d learn by going thru flight similators and simulating flying, they figured that watching child porn would be a good prelude to role-playing Mohammed-Aisha w/ a real girl
Anyway, congratulations to the DoD for allowing that to be the grounds for kicking them out
Walter Sieruk says
That the jihadist who murdered all those people, at Pensacola, had written that his “countdown” for his deadly jihad attack has started on September 11, 2019 is very revealing that his Islamic homicides were premeditated , as in he must have had committed much scheming forethought to his murderous Islamic quest of the jihad.
There is also much blame to go around. For example, the Islamic kingdom of Saudi Arabia has not and will not spare any of its vast oil wealth as to use its financial resources to fund and promote the advancement of Islam by and through the jihad. By this it means both the stealth jihad and even the subtle support violent jihad.
As explained, for example in the book HOW ISLAM PLANS TO CHANGE THE WORLD by William Wagner. For on pages 109, 110. The reader is informed that “The Wall Street journal on April 15, 2003 published an article titled ‘In law Seminars, A Saudi Group Spreads Extremism.’ The article began by saying ‘In late February more than 300 young men from across Europe gathered for a weekend seminar on Islamic Law put on by Al-Waqf al-Islaami Foundation.’ The article went on to explain that the most famous graduates from the seminar were half a dozen members of the group of young men from Hamburg, Germany, who plotted the September 11, attacks. The language of the was Dutch, but ‘the message was imported from Saudi Arabia, via Saudi books and lecturers who taught a strict orthodox interpretation of Islam.’ “
Further on the very same page of 110 the information is given that “TIME MAGAZINE , in an article on Saudi Arabia: Inside the Kingdom,’ stated ‘Apart from channeling money to foundations that have assisted terrorist groups, Saudis have for years supported institutions abroad the propagate Wahhabism.’”
In addition to all this, in the book of the title of THE HISTORY OF JIHAD FROM MUHAMMAD TO ISIS, by Robert Spencer on pages 333 through 337.Mr Spencer provides valid information of the subject of “ The Saudi involvement in September 11.”
So with that Islamic regime of Saudi Arabia and its oil money support the different type of the jihad, both stealth and the violent kind, with its Islamic agenda advancement and spread , influence and infiltration of the Western nations ,this kingdom of Saudi Arabia is no friend at all of America or any other country of the West.
Walter Sieruk says
The Islamic kingdom of Saudi Arabia is not an innocent nation when it comes to the subject of promoting Islamic terrorism by setting up Muslim brainwashing centers in which impressionable Muslim youth are thoroughly indoctrinated into the ways of Quran based jihad violence with much killing of people who are not Muslim for the advancement of Islam. As the Quran instructs, for example 2:191., 5:33. 9:5,111,112,123 47:4,89.
One scholar, Brigitte Gabriel, who is an from the Middle East had in her book with the title of THEY MUST BE STOPPED informs her readers on page 114. “Saudi Arabia is one of the leading financial contributors to Islamic terrorism worldwide. Part of that contribution is made by funding madrasas throughout the world and the brainwashing of Muslim children with intolerant teaching towards anything non-Muslim.”
Likewise, a former Muslim, Ibn Warraq, in his book which has the title of THE ISLAM IN ISLAMIC TERRORISM on page 353 reveals that “Saudi Arabia has spent millions on Islamic propaganda and on building madrassas.”
Further on the subject that there are Muslim mind control and mind programming places where Muslim males are thoroughly indoctrinated into the strong but blind and unquestioning faith in Koran with all non-watered down; hard core Islam with its militant jihad. Those places, “schools,” are called madrasas. In those Islamic mind programming centers young Muslim male are ingrain in the mindset Koranic dogma of the use of violence and killing for the advancement of Islam. As the Koran instructs. As in, for example, in 2:191. 9:5, 123. 47:4. Many of those who of such center are so much damaged that they are literally dangerous to self and others. As seen many times in jihad suicide, homicide bombing/attacks. For the Koran instructs in 9:111. “The believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, they kill and are killed.” Furthermore, those mind programming places also ingrain the outlandish absurd Koranic doctrine of a sex-filled paradise with many virgins, houris, in it for the Muslim male who dies fighting for the cause of Islam in the jihad. Such a strange doctrine of a houris filled- place in found in the Koran in 44:54. 55:56. 78:31. Moreover, such Islamic mind programming centers are further explained about by the scholar Don Richardson in his book SECRETS OF THE KORAN which on pages 69,70. Informs the reader that “The world needs to be warned. At least forty million Muslim youth in the Muslim worlds’ religious schools, called madrasa, are avidly memorizing the entire Koran … These schools become breeding grounds for potential terrorists. When male students, isolated from family and friends in madrasa, reach puberty and their hormones are active, there are no girls to date. Instead, Muslim clerics easily shift to focusing the male student’s attention on Koranic verse that promises sex in heaven with dark-eyed houris. Students can only fantasize about martyrdom followed by the sexual release Muhammad promised. This is an unspeakably cruel brainwashing technique , and the Koran is its perfect guidebook.”
In short, Saudi Arabia is very guilty of promoting Islamic terrorism
Walter Sieruk says
The Islamic kingdom of Saudi Arabia in no friend of any Western nation, Saudi Arabia is best defined as a kingdom of Islamic hate
As one Arab scholar who had lived in a Middle Eastern country, for many years revealed “Saudi madrassa notably teach hatred and condemnation of the West and non-Muslims” and “The Saudi Government also provides free textbooks to Islamic schools throughout the world . many of the Saudi- Issued textbook’s contain wording that encourages hatred and intolerance for non-Muslims.” [1]
Saudi Arabia in many ways is no better than Iran.
[1] THEY MUST BE STOPPED by Brigitte Gabriel, page 106
gerard says
The ones that had child pornography should have been arrested and sent to prison for ten to twenty years!
Infidel says
They’re foreign citizens – let them go back to Saudi Arabia, where that is legal
jeffy says
Boy muslims sure like to rape children.
gravenimage says
More than a dozen Muslim servicemen to be expelled from US after review following Pensacola jihad massacre
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Finally, some sanity. Of course, this should have been done after the Jihad attack.
Note that they didn’t just have “extremist” matter, but also child pornography–good Muslims all.
Ade Fegan says
It’s good to see something being done about the islam problem .. and the protests in Iran show signs of Islam crumbling .. just as the Son of Hamas and the Apostate Prophet predicted
gravenimage says
I hope so–but I would not hold my breath re Iran–many have been too optimistic before, like back in 2009.
mortimer says
Google Statistics lists the top countries in searches for pornography:
Saudis are no.8 in seaches for ‘sexy children’.
Pig Sex: Saudi Arabia (No. 3)
Donkey Sex: Saudi Arabia (No. 4)
Dog Sex: Saudi Arabia (No. 3)
Cat Sex: Saudi Arabia (No. 4)
Cow Sex: Saudi Arabia (No. 4)
Bear Sex: Saudi Arabia (No. 2)
Arabic is the 2nd most common language that is used to search for “gay sex.”
CogitoErgoSum says
I assume a person has to catch those bears during hibernation season.
PRCS says
+1
Giacomo Latta says
Do you think they’re smart enough to know that much?
owensgate says
WOW! I read the headline and thought we (the U.S.) had finally seen the light, and expelled U.S. Military personnel who were moslem from the U.S. Military, then understood it was not to be, it was only FOREIGN service personnel here by Pentagon invite… What a letdown; they shouldn’t be here to begin with…
Jaydam says
It was revealed in the MSM last year in the U.K,.. that most of the mosques that have been built in the last few years have been payed for by Saudi Arabia. And most mosques are in labour run towns and city’s. More proof if it were needed that the socialists and muzzles are on the same side.
Geof Barrington says
Muslums are the enemies of all people . They should not be allowed in our countries at all .
sidney penny says
what only a dozen?
Pal says
That “spotting and expelling from US” needed to happen before September 2001 too, in 2000, all 1990s and back on…
jca reid says
Muslims & Islam are no friend of the West. Time for it to be eradicated.
OLD GUY says
Let’s stop kidding ourselves Islam and its followers are in opposition of freedom of thought or speech and believe islam should be the only religion in the world. The leaders of islam are using their religion as a means to gain world dominance as dictators. There is no room for this behavior in the world, it must be stoped.
warren nicodemus says
Who would have ever thought ,That’s what MEVILM , men are into . Go figure i
Norger says
Given the “infidel hatred” to which Saudi children are exposed from infancy, this is hardly surprising. Fighting age Saudi males should be presumed unfit for entry into the US, period. Providing them with access to our military bases, giving ANY of them military training (WTF!!!) that’s just batsh*t crazy, full stop.
PRCS says
During yesterday’s press conference, Attorney General Barr stated that the perp was motivated by ‘Islamist ideology’.
And media outlets, including Fox News, ran with that all day long.
Jihad is NOT an ideology.
It is a core component of written, orthodox Islam.
That people at that level of government–almost 19 years and more than 30,00 acts of violent jihad around the world post 9/11–either still ‘don’t get it’ or are still lying to us is beyond troubling.
With “you’re either a part of the problem or a part of the solution” in mind, they’re definitely in the problem category.
Norger says
No separation of “mosque and state” in Islam, particularly in Saudi Arabia, heart of the Muslim world. And as Raymond Ibrahim noted in article linked above:
“[H]ate is official Saudi policy, enforced by the heads of state themselves—not the aberrant beliefs of some random ‘terrorist group.’”
The government is lying to us; they think we can’t handle the truth about Islam and/or are afraid of what would happen if they were to speak openly and honestly about the nature and magnitude of the threat Islamic orthodoxy poses to the western world. I think they also suffer from a delusional belief that some sort of westernized “kind and gentle” Islam will eventually emerge as long as we westerners don’t say bad things about Islam. The MSM is essentially the same, they like to pretend, in the Information Age, that Islam is just too complicated for us to understand.
PRCS says
100%
WPM says
Islam practice according to its own scripture and holy books is like Nazism. These is no good soft good practice of Nazism it is a supremist ,master race or master religion both bad to the bone for civilized law abiding cultures.
JamesC. says
By pandering to it, people are in effect pandering to Nazism, Mohammedan Nazism is no better than Hitler’s kind was.
underbed cat says
Jihad is Islamic warfare, dawah is the doctrine to spread, deception by omission or protective fibbing is needed to dispel Islam is agressive and jihad violence kiling is their way to strike fear and submission so we accept it as peaceful unless you want to leave it or you try to live without it or have to live near it. I agree most in government are pushed into silence by the left and sharia laws to be silent which should not be observed. In my opinion sounds like he understands I did not hear the entire comment.
PRCS says
Re: AG Barr.
1. Does he know the truth about jihad’s place in Islam or not?
2. Is he asserting what he thinks is truthful or purposely holding the real truth back?
Whether he does not KNOW the truth by now or is holding it back, his declaration has done the nation a disservice.