Can you imagine these people accepting a Jewish state of any size?
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vlparkersays
As predictable as the sun rising in the east.
Max Brennersays
Allah won’t give them 72 virgins for accepting peace. The Koran says they only get rewarded for waging war.
jewdogsays
No map with Israel on it will be acceptable. The problem is attitude, not latitude.
revereridesagainsays
And Trump just exposed theirs to the world yet again, as if anyone not a slave of Allah, Marx, and/or Ilhan Omar needed reminding.
Jayellsays
Talking of maps, I googled ‘Palestine’ on Google Earth Pro and it zoomed in on a site at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean about 1,000 miles off the west coast of Africa. No further comment.
gravenimagesays
Spot on, Jewdog.
Robsays
Any road connecting Gaza to the other parts of the Palestinian state MUST be in a tunnel. Palestinians just cannot be trusted to see a surface road as a means of getting from A to B. They will insist on using it as a firing point against Israelis.
tedh754says
Palestinians enraged! Wow, that’s something you don’t read about every day!
gravenimagesays
🙂
JMBsays
PEACE, Normally a word associated with thanksgiving, jubilation, dancing in the street, happiness, prosperity… Do these people even want to know what the word means?
rooaresays
The only plan the ‘Palestinians’ will except is the annihilation of Israel. Cut off all funding to the so called Palestinians and stop negotiating with them it’s a ruse to get more US taxpayer dollars to use for terrorist activities.
mortimersays
Even a Jewish homeland that was smaller than the Gaza Strip would be rejected by Muslims because it would be an ideological denial of Muslim conquest and supremacism.
The parties are thus speaking at cross purposes. The Pallies can only be satisfied if Islam and Sharia law are declared supreme over all Israel and the name ‘Land of Israel’ is expunged from history. The Pallies cannot be satisfied with less than that. Their Arab leaders at the end of WWI wanted a revival of the caliphate of Damascus. The British and French made sure that would not happen.
The UK created the Emirate of Transjordan to buy off the have-not Hashemite family which did not want the hegemony of the Sauds, but that didn’t work, because each of the sheikhs still wanted it all. The temporary creation of a United Arab Republic to be the secular equivalent of the caliphate, was briefly popular before it fell apart.
Practical concerns (such sharing the resources of the region) have nothing to do with the issue of Israel as a Jewish homeland.
IT’S THE IDEOLOGY!
Jihadism is the core value of the Pally movement. The Pallies even talk about a global Islamic empire with its capital in JERUSALEM! They believe their own delusion … a variation on the caliphate theme.
Israel geographically divides the proposed Arab caliphate, so it must not exist to come between this theoretical Arab empire that already exists in the overheated minds of jihad-loving, kafir-hating Muslims.
Walter Sieruksays
Wow ! they are sure all worked up. Some sly manipulative characters , as Abbas must have had a hand in getting them so thoroughly “worked up.”
All those poor brainwashed Muslims/Arabs who call themselves the “Palestinians,” they are thoroughly mind programmed by Abbas and the PA to the extent that they can’t even think for themselves. As for the PA and Abbas as well as the members of Iran’s stooge jihad entities, as Hamas and Hezbollah, with their intention of destroying the State of Israel and replacing her with some kind of Islamic “state” is an Islamic agenda that is fated to fail in the end. For all of such Muslim schemes and effort will come nothing in the end.
The reason is that all their plots and striving against the State of Israel are all lose in the end .This is because Abbas is greatly overruled by the God of the Bible. Who is the Supreme and Ultimate supporter of Israel. As reflected in the following verses of the Bible. “A man’s heart may be full of schemes, but the Lord‘s purpose will prevail.” Proverbs 19:21. [N.E.B.] Also, Psalm 135:4. This informs the reader that “The Lord has chosen Jacob to be His own and Israel His special treasure.”
Rarelysays
Cute quotes Walter but, historically, God is sure taking His/Her/Its time. It would be nice if God were to conclude the matter shortly (and in Israel’s favour) but that may be wishful thinking, and it probably is. It would be the ultimate in pride to presume to know God’s agenda.
gravenimagesays
Video: “Palestinians,” enraged at Trump’s peace plan, burn photo of Trump and Netanyahu
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I heard about this this morning. More proof that the “Palestinians” are not interested in having their own state. I figured this out after Oslo.
James Lincolnsays
Palestinians enraged. Hmm, somebody must be doing something right…
Palestinians are enraged when their rocket attacks from Gaza fail to kill enough Israelis.
And the same Palestinians are enraged when the IDF Israeli Defense forces shoot back…
Rarelysays
The Palestinian response is not surprising in the least. It looks like the plan may be a step backwards. However, I’m no expert and time will tell.
gravenimagesays
Rarely, what plan *would* the “Palestinians” respond favorably to–save the complete destruction of Israel?
somehistorysays
Reportedly, the “plan” was set to be between people of “shared values.” These creeps who are so eager to burn the photos of their enemies, are risking getting burned for real. Some “shared values.”
There is no value in islam…moslims place a value on absolutely nothing. Normal people place a high value on life, family, friends, and other things of real worth. moslims show constant hatred…for even family members and those who fall out of line are murdered on the spot without so much as a whimper from other family members.
There is no virtue in islam, nothing to praise, nothing worth sharing, nothing of integrity.
How then can moslims be said to be people of “shared values” with Israel, with Jews who value life and family?
Everything moslims possess that can be said to have “value,” was stolen from others…at the point of a sword. They won’t be satisfied with “East Jerusalem.” They want the entire city and they want all of the Jews to be pushed into the sea.
They don’t ever want any kind of a deall with Israel. They want them wiped off the face of the earth. This deal just outed the palestinians once again.
Israel claims Palestine was never a country. Yet there are numerous government documents including land deeds stamped “Palestine”. You can find Palestine stamps and letters with Palestine postmarks. And there are pre-1948 coins minted “Palestine”.
You can buy them on eBay.
What is amazing is that the Trump team has offered almost everything that the PA has insisted upon. Parts of East Jerusalem being set aside as a site for an eventual capital for something called the Palestinian State, an ad hoc non new Israeli settlements and billions of dollars were put on the table. I am not sure if the Israelis have signed off on the deal but Gatestone Institute believes they have but I am not sure neither the US or Israel truly thought that the PA would sign off on the deal but it does prove that the Palestinians have no intention to sit down at the table to discuss or even listen to anything other than their demand that Israel be wiped off the map, at least off the Arabian Peninsula.
gravenimagesays
Oslo was similar…
Terry Gainsays
An optimistic headline would say Peace Plan On Life Support, but a more realistic one would say Peace Plan Stillborn.
I have been saying for decades that the “Palestinians” don’t want peace with Israel and will never agree to peace. A realist would not bother with this until the “Palestinians” first agree that Israel has a right to exist.
I think this peace plan is a prelude to Israel establishing more settlements in the West Bank. The “Palestinians” have given them no choice. President Trump is supplying rope for the “Palestinians” to hang themselves.
You may wish to register the ” Peace Plan Stillborn” phrase as it is the most accurate I have heard in a long time.
Wilfredsays
No matter what peace plan you offer they will always oppose it. It is in their blood. And just like Max Brenner said, Allah wont give you 72 virgins for peace but waging a war will. Its that mentality that is ingrained in their minds which is the root cause of all strife. Strengthening our own security & keel these ugly jihadists at bay is the only way forward right now.
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vlparker says
As predictable as the sun rising in the east.
Max Brenner says
Allah won’t give them 72 virgins for accepting peace. The Koran says they only get rewarded for waging war.
jewdog says
No map with Israel on it will be acceptable. The problem is attitude, not latitude.
revereridesagain says
And Trump just exposed theirs to the world yet again, as if anyone not a slave of Allah, Marx, and/or Ilhan Omar needed reminding.
Jayell says
Talking of maps, I googled ‘Palestine’ on Google Earth Pro and it zoomed in on a site at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean about 1,000 miles off the west coast of Africa. No further comment.
gravenimage says
Spot on, Jewdog.
Rob says
Any road connecting Gaza to the other parts of the Palestinian state MUST be in a tunnel. Palestinians just cannot be trusted to see a surface road as a means of getting from A to B. They will insist on using it as a firing point against Israelis.
tedh754 says
Palestinians enraged! Wow, that’s something you don’t read about every day!
gravenimage says
🙂
JMB says
PEACE, Normally a word associated with thanksgiving, jubilation, dancing in the street, happiness, prosperity… Do these people even want to know what the word means?
rooare says
The only plan the ‘Palestinians’ will except is the annihilation of Israel. Cut off all funding to the so called Palestinians and stop negotiating with them it’s a ruse to get more US taxpayer dollars to use for terrorist activities.
mortimer says
Even a Jewish homeland that was smaller than the Gaza Strip would be rejected by Muslims because it would be an ideological denial of Muslim conquest and supremacism.
The parties are thus speaking at cross purposes. The Pallies can only be satisfied if Islam and Sharia law are declared supreme over all Israel and the name ‘Land of Israel’ is expunged from history. The Pallies cannot be satisfied with less than that. Their Arab leaders at the end of WWI wanted a revival of the caliphate of Damascus. The British and French made sure that would not happen.
The UK created the Emirate of Transjordan to buy off the have-not Hashemite family which did not want the hegemony of the Sauds, but that didn’t work, because each of the sheikhs still wanted it all. The temporary creation of a United Arab Republic to be the secular equivalent of the caliphate, was briefly popular before it fell apart.
Practical concerns (such sharing the resources of the region) have nothing to do with the issue of Israel as a Jewish homeland.
IT’S THE IDEOLOGY!
Jihadism is the core value of the Pally movement. The Pallies even talk about a global Islamic empire with its capital in JERUSALEM! They believe their own delusion … a variation on the caliphate theme.
Israel geographically divides the proposed Arab caliphate, so it must not exist to come between this theoretical Arab empire that already exists in the overheated minds of jihad-loving, kafir-hating Muslims.
Walter Sieruk says
Wow ! they are sure all worked up. Some sly manipulative characters , as Abbas must have had a hand in getting them so thoroughly “worked up.”
All those poor brainwashed Muslims/Arabs who call themselves the “Palestinians,” they are thoroughly mind programmed by Abbas and the PA to the extent that they can’t even think for themselves. As for the PA and Abbas as well as the members of Iran’s stooge jihad entities, as Hamas and Hezbollah, with their intention of destroying the State of Israel and replacing her with some kind of Islamic “state” is an Islamic agenda that is fated to fail in the end. For all of such Muslim schemes and effort will come nothing in the end.
The reason is that all their plots and striving against the State of Israel are all lose in the end .This is because Abbas is greatly overruled by the God of the Bible. Who is the Supreme and Ultimate supporter of Israel. As reflected in the following verses of the Bible. “A man’s heart may be full of schemes, but the Lord‘s purpose will prevail.” Proverbs 19:21. [N.E.B.] Also, Psalm 135:4. This informs the reader that “The Lord has chosen Jacob to be His own and Israel His special treasure.”
Rarely says
Cute quotes Walter but, historically, God is sure taking His/Her/Its time. It would be nice if God were to conclude the matter shortly (and in Israel’s favour) but that may be wishful thinking, and it probably is. It would be the ultimate in pride to presume to know God’s agenda.
gravenimage says
Video: “Palestinians,” enraged at Trump’s peace plan, burn photo of Trump and Netanyahu
………………
I heard about this this morning. More proof that the “Palestinians” are not interested in having their own state. I figured this out after Oslo.
James Lincoln says
Palestinians enraged. Hmm, somebody must be doing something right…
Palestinians are enraged when their rocket attacks from Gaza fail to kill enough Israelis.
And the same Palestinians are enraged when the IDF Israeli Defense forces shoot back…
Rarely says
The Palestinian response is not surprising in the least. It looks like the plan may be a step backwards. However, I’m no expert and time will tell.
gravenimage says
Rarely, what plan *would* the “Palestinians” respond favorably to–save the complete destruction of Israel?
somehistory says
Reportedly, the “plan” was set to be between people of “shared values.” These creeps who are so eager to burn the photos of their enemies, are risking getting burned for real. Some “shared values.”
There is no value in islam…moslims place a value on absolutely nothing. Normal people place a high value on life, family, friends, and other things of real worth. moslims show constant hatred…for even family members and those who fall out of line are murdered on the spot without so much as a whimper from other family members.
There is no virtue in islam, nothing to praise, nothing worth sharing, nothing of integrity.
How then can moslims be said to be people of “shared values” with Israel, with Jews who value life and family?
Everything moslims possess that can be said to have “value,” was stolen from others…at the point of a sword. They won’t be satisfied with “East Jerusalem.” They want the entire city and they want all of the Jews to be pushed into the sea.
John says
The Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini ,who had 3 SS Waffen Divisions fighting for Hitler helping the Holocaust , was also Arafat,s Mentor. This is why their will NEVER be Peace between islam(Palestine) and Israel. Read some factual History. http://www.thetower.org/article/how-the-mufti-of-jerusalem-created-the-permanent-problem-of-palestinian-violence/
Bella says
They don’t ever want any kind of a deall with Israel. They want them wiped off the face of the earth. This deal just outed the palestinians once again.
collinson4 says
Israel claims Palestine was never a country. Yet there are numerous government documents including land deeds stamped “Palestine”. You can find Palestine stamps and letters with Palestine postmarks. And there are pre-1948 coins minted “Palestine”.
You can buy them on eBay.
marc says
British mandate for Palestine was never a country, it was a territory of control, there were no people called palestinians. It included Jordan, which was split off leaving Israel, https://www.mythsandfacts.org/conflict/mandate_for_palestine/mandate_for_palestine.htm
gravenimage says
+1
Ray Jarman says
What is amazing is that the Trump team has offered almost everything that the PA has insisted upon. Parts of East Jerusalem being set aside as a site for an eventual capital for something called the Palestinian State, an ad hoc non new Israeli settlements and billions of dollars were put on the table. I am not sure if the Israelis have signed off on the deal but Gatestone Institute believes they have but I am not sure neither the US or Israel truly thought that the PA would sign off on the deal but it does prove that the Palestinians have no intention to sit down at the table to discuss or even listen to anything other than their demand that Israel be wiped off the map, at least off the Arabian Peninsula.
gravenimage says
Oslo was similar…
Terry Gain says
An optimistic headline would say Peace Plan On Life Support, but a more realistic one would say Peace Plan Stillborn.
I have been saying for decades that the “Palestinians” don’t want peace with Israel and will never agree to peace. A realist would not bother with this until the “Palestinians” first agree that Israel has a right to exist.
I think this peace plan is a prelude to Israel establishing more settlements in the West Bank. The “Palestinians” have given them no choice. President Trump is supplying rope for the “Palestinians” to hang themselves.
Ray Jarman says
Terry Gain,
You may wish to register the ” Peace Plan Stillborn” phrase as it is the most accurate I have heard in a long time.
Wilfred says
No matter what peace plan you offer they will always oppose it. It is in their blood. And just like Max Brenner said, Allah wont give you 72 virgins for peace but waging a war will. Its that mentality that is ingrained in their minds which is the root cause of all strife. Strengthening our own security & keel these ugly jihadists at bay is the only way forward right now.