Egyptian researcher Mohamed Gad El-Zoghby, interviewed on Safa TV on August 12, 2018, made some statements that are worth recalling now as illuminating of the “Palestinian” mindset. He said that just like in Europe, which had “founded the [Zionist] enterprise, in the days of Napoleon, in order to get rid of the Jews,” the American people and government “could not tolerate the Jews.” His fantastic tale is here.
If El-Zoghby is right, and both in Europe and America people “could not tolerate the Jews,” then this merely confirms just how right the Muslim Arabs have been to despise them. Muslims are joined by everyone else, antisemitism makes the whole world kin.
In an episode of a series called “Know Your Enemy,” El-Zoghby said that only in the days of Herzl, the “powerful and popular president” who “led America during WWII” and was “the only president to serve three terms,” did the interests of the American Jews and of the Zionist enterprise converge. He went on to say that Herzl [!] had brought in “man of shadows” Truman, “a most simple man,” as his VP because he did not want a VP who would rob him of his popularity.
Mohamed Gad El-Zoghby says: “What was the original position of the U.S. on the plan to establish the Zionist state? The people and the government of the U.S. could not tolerate the Jews, just like Europe. When Europe founded the [Zionist] enterprise, in the days of Napoleon, it did so in order to get rid of the Jews.”
It was not Europe that “founded the [Zionist] enterprise” in the “days of Napoleon.” It was Jews who, long after Napoleon was dead, decided to promote the idea of a Jewish state in Palestine. The First Zionist Congress was held in Basel in 1897, about a century after Mohamed Gad El-Zoghby thinks Napoleon was supporting the [non-existent Zionist] enterprise, because he, like so many others, supposedly wanted to get rid of the Jews. Among the many offenses to history in El-Zoghby’s short discussion is that concerning Napoleon. He was far from hostile to the Jews; he emancipated them — gave them full civil and political rights — both in France and wherever his armies established outposts of the French Empire. He was also long dead when the first Zionist Congress was held. Zionism was a positive Jewish movement to establish a state that, among other things, would be a refuge for Jews facing mounting antisemitism in Europe. It was not a movement by antisemites who saw Zionism, according to El-Zoghby, “as a way to rid Europe of its Jews.”
“In America, however, things were different. Both on the governmental and popular levels, there was no gate they could open [to get rid of the Jews], because America is ruled by interests. The European immigration waves that founded America were based exclusively on an economic mentality. America today is more like a corporation than a state. It is completely ruled by economy, capital, and influence. It’s a corporation. The main European immigration wave was from among the Anglo-Saxon race – the extremist Christians. They blame the Jews for the blood of Christ.”
Here we have a suggestion, unsurprising coming from Mr. El-Zoghby, that Jews could not be pushed out of America, as so many wished to do to them, because of their financial success in America. Jews and Money, the favorite subject of European antisemities, now is finding favor with Muslim Arabs. They were too rich, and therefore too powerful, to expel, in El-Zoghby’s telling. It is perhaps worth noting that the 14th Amendment, guaranteeing “equal protection of the laws” to all Americans, which would have prevented any such mass expulsion, is unknown to El-Zoghby.
“The European Jews in America had opposed the Zionist enterprise until then, because they believed America, not Palestine, to be the Promised Land.”
Jews in America did not “oppose the Zionist enterprise.” Not all were committed Zionists, which is different from “opposing” Zionism. Many Jews felt quite content in the United States, but were well aware that the situation of Jews in other places — in Russia, Eastern Europe, Germany, and in Muslim lands, too — was dire and these people required a refuge. Reverend Stephen Wise, perhaps the most celebrated American rabbi of his day, was an ardent Zionist, who joined with such other prominent figures as Justice Louis Brandeis and Felix Frankfurter to make the case for Zionism, to both Jews and non-Jews alike. With the arrival of Hitler and the Nazis, American Jews became even more favorable to the cause of Zionism.
“But when Herzl, the founder of the Zionist enterprise, realized the danger posed by the lack of support of the Jews of America, he communicated with them. After what happened in WWII and the rise of Hitler in order to annihilate the Jews, the interests converged. That’s when the American Jews linked themselves to the Zionist enterprise. If this was on the governmental level, what can we say about the level of the presidents themselves? The most famous president accused of collaboration with the Jews was Truman. Truman succeeded Herzl [sic]. Herzl was a unique president. He was the only president to serve three terms, because he led America during WWII. He was elected at the time. Herzl was a very powerful and popular president.”
The comical confusion spins out of control on the part of this “Egyptian scholar,” who does not know the name of the most famous American president of the 20th century, but has gotten it into his head that that president is named “Herzl” and is “the founder of the Zionist enterprise” — that is, he is Theodor Herzl who, instead of founding modern Zionism in the late 19th century, apparently founded it in the 1930s, when he was the American President. This reflects El-Zoghby’s belief in the vast power of American Jews. They could even put their own man in the Presidency. Note, too, El-Zoghby’s referring to Truman as being “accused of collaboration with the Jews” — a sinister twist is given to the fact that Truman did nothing more than recognize the State of Israel. Some “collaboration with the Jews.”
“Herzl did not want to have a powerful vice president, who would rob him of his popularity, so he brought the so-called ‘man of shadows,’ Truman, who was a most simple man. It’s like when President Abdel Nasser selected Sadat.”
An absurd remark. Franklin Roosevelt — or “Herzl” in El-Zoghby’s version — in 1944 was at the height of his popularity, with the Depression long over, and World War II having taken a decisive turn, in both Europe and the Pacific, in favor of the Allies. Roosevelt (Herzl) had no need to worry about a vice president “who would rob him of his popularity.” The point being made here by El-Zoghby is that Truman, a “most simple man,” was selected because of his lack of any notable qualities — and his supposed mediocrity helps explain, according to El-Zoghby, why he turned out to be guilty “of collaboration with the Jews.” A less mediocre man would not have “collaborated” with the perfidious Jews.
What is the whole point of this article? It is to make Mohamed Gad El-Zoghby’s Egyptian audience think that Zionism was not really a product of Jewish longing, of Jewish suffering, of Jewish striving, of Jewish nation-building, but rather, was promoted mainly by those non-Jews who wanted, beginning with Napoleon — and with good reason, because everyone dislikes the Jews, according to El-Zoghby — to get rid of “their” Jews by foisting them onto the land belonging to those innocent victims of Zionism, the Arabs of Palestine. And that’s why — no need for El-Zoghby even to spell it out — that Europe, and America, are to blame for the “Palestinian” tragedy and they need to make amends, not least by ending their support for Israel and generously supporting the “Palestinians.”
It turns Zionism upside-down and inside-out. But Mohamed Gad El-Zoghby and 1.6 billion Muslims wouldn’t have it any other way.
mortimer says
‘Researcher’ Mohamed Gad El-Zoghby seems to have pulled his ‘facts’ right out of his keister.
The idea that the US had a president called HERZL is surely the silliest nonsense of this pile of hot, steaming taqiyya. El-Zoghby didn’t get anything right in his stream-of-consciousness piece. (I imagine the Koran was composed in a similar fashion, because the Koran gets almost nothing right and in a similar way).
The danger of such a fabricated tissue of lies as El-Zoghby’s piece is that many uninformed Arabs will believe it, since Muslims in the Near East seem to prefer the rumor mill over books, journals and established facts. Many are only semi-literate and few have been trained in critical thought. Muslims in the Middle East hear such rumors as El-Zoghby’s every day because they don’t believe the government-controlled media, and anyone who has lived in the Middle East will have observed this Islamic daffiness daily.
This guy is a ‘researcher’ in the same way that Julius Streicher (editor of Der Stuermer) was a ‘researcher’.
There is a very dangerous concept current today that is similar to the Muslim Rumor Mill. Some commentators have called it ‘truthiness’.
We see truthiness especially in the Left. They don’t need provable facts because the intensity of their political feelings make ‘facts’ unnecessary.
Truthiness is a quality characterizing a “truth” that a person making an argument or assertion claims to know intuitively “from the gut” or because it “feels right” without regard to evidence, logic, intellectual examination, or facts.
Truthiness is something they ‘feel’ is true, even if it isn’t supported by fact.
The American Dialect Society said, “Truthiness refers to the quality of preferring concepts or facts one wishes or believes to be true, rather than concepts or facts known to be true.”
Islam is entirely based on the principle that if Arab supremacists want something to be true, then it is true.
‘Researcher’ Mohamed Gad El-Zoghby seems to have pulled his ‘facts’ right out of his keister.
The idea that the US had a president called HERZL is surely the silliest nonsense of this pile of hot, steaming taqiyya. El-Zoghby didn’t get anything right in his stream-of-consciousness piece. (I imagine the Koran was composed in a similar fashion, because the Koran gets almost nothing right and in a similar way).
The danger of such a fabricated tissue of lies as El-Zoghby’s piece is that many uninformed Arabs will believe it, since Muslims in the Near East seem to prefer the rumor mill over books, journals and established facts. Many are only semi-literate and few have been trained in critical thought. Muslims in the Middle East hear such rumors as El-Zoghby’s every day because they don’t believe the government-controlled media, and anyone who has lived in the Middle East will have observed this Islamic daffiness daily.
This guy is a ‘researcher’ in the same way that Julius Streicher (editor of Der Stuermer) was a ‘researcher’.
There is a very dangerous concept current today that is similar to the Muslim Rumor Mill. Some commentators have called it ‘truthiness’.
We see truthiness especially in the Left. They don’t need provable facts because the intensity of their political feelings make ‘facts’ unnecessary.
Truthiness is a quality characterizing a “truth” that a person making an argument or assertion claims to know intuitively “from the gut” or because it “feels right” without regard to evidence, logic, intellectual examination, or facts.
Truthiness is something they ‘feel’ is true, even if it isn’t supported by fact.
The American Dialect Society said, “Truthiness refers to the quality of preferring concepts or facts one wishes or believes to be true, rather than concepts or facts known to be true.”
Islam is entirely based on the principle that if Arab supremacists want something to be true, then it is true.
mortimer says
There seems to be an insane rumor among Muslims (believed adamantly by them to be ‘fact’) that the American Roosevelt family was ‘in reality’ a Jewish family from Holland … and that both Teddy Roosevelt and FDR were secretly Jewish. Now, the history of the Roosenvelt family (later Roosevelt) is a matter of public record, rather than opinion. (I encountered this absurd ‘Jewish Roosevelt’ rumor the first time in an Iranian co-worker who was a supporter of Ayatollah Khomeini’s revolution. He adamantly believed the rumor and defended it.)
However, There is absolutely no historical evidence that the Roosevelt family was at any time Jewish.
The Roosevelt family has been mostly Protestant in religion from their earliest recorded history. Any Roosevelt descendants reading this can verify that.
Claes Martenszen van Rosenvelt (c. 1626 – 1659) was an immigrant to New Amsterdam from the Tholen region and his family appears to have been peasants. In 1652, Claes bought a farm from Lambert van Valckenburgh in what is now Midtown Manhattan, including the present site of the Empire State Building. The Roosevelt family were members of the Dutch Reformed Church until Teddy Roosevelt. The Roosevelt family has produced many Christian clergymen, bishops and an archbishop of Baltimore.
Teddy Roosevelt held Bible studies with his family in the White House.
Charlie in NY says
The rumor of Roosevelt’s Jewishness goes back at least to the Depression. My mother recalled it along with the additional claim that Eleanor Roosevelt’s Jewishness was independently proven by her suffering from syphilis – you know, the Jewish disease.
That everything about these claims is untrue, and demonstrably so, was no impediment. The only incurable disease in the world seems to be antisemitism.
commonsense says
Prior to and during WW2, many isolationists and Jew-haters opposed to our entry into the war accused Roosevelt of supporting intervention just to help the Jews. Roosevelt was referred to as “President Rosenfeld” by these antisemites. Very likely, this also fueled the belief, held by so many uninformed ignoramuses, that FDR was Jewish.
mortimer says
BTW, Harry S. Truman was not a ‘simple man’, but a highly complex and self-taught intellectual who read thick books constantly so he could become better informed. He was a passionate reader of history and was a well-prepared president who knew the history, culture and politics of countries around the world.
Harry Truman would have vehemently denounced El-Zoghby’s arrogant ignorance using the common Anglo-Saxon term that expresses the idea of ‘taqiyya’.
libertyORdeath says
Truman was also a 33rd degree Mason, a position that would be nearly impossible for a “simple man” to achieve.
Rarely says
Of course he’s not even trying to be historically accurate, in any way. He’s not talking to us. He’s speaking to that brain dead mob. People like him make up any story they wish, however idiotic it may be, to fuel hatred towards anyone they please (the USA in this case). Hitler proved it works. He knows what he’s saying is totally false which makes him ever more evil.
Why don’t these people (him and the others like him) understand what misery their actions in fostering all this hatred bring to their own people?
James Lincoln says
Rarely says,
“Why don’t these people (him and the others like him) understand what misery their actions in fostering all this hatred bring to their own people?”
The truth is that evil people do not care if their words or actions cause misery – even to their own people.
They have no conscience…
libertyORdeath says
I actually believe that he thinks that what he said is true. Religion, especially Islam, can cause one to be blinded to truth.
Rob says
Why is it that the Zionist (now Israel) Project is so hated by the Arabs, when the Hashemite (now Jordan) Project is seen as totally legit? This despite the fact that the Hashemites fought against the Ottomans in WW1
libertyORdeath says
Muslims will choose other muslims over infidels every time. Once they relieve the world of fitnah then they can turn on each other and fight it out over who is the truest muslim.
F Middleton says
Bizarro world again – but not different from the garbage about sex and identity coming from Western academics.
gravenimage says
Mohamed Gad El-Zoghby’s Crazed History of Zionism
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More appallingly bad Muslim scholarship. This is what happens when you reject reason. Factor in the unhinged Jew-hatred as well, of course.