“He was attracted to Tommy Robinson’s interpretation of Islam as a violent religion you may think his explanation of the book shows both that he had read it and was excited by it.”
Yes, of course. Mohiussunnath Chowdhury was a peaceful exponent of the Religion of Peace, seeking refuge in its peaceful teachings and spreading peace everywhere, until he came across the teachings of the imam Tommy Robinson, who convinced him to twist and hijack his religion’s peaceful teachings, and to misunderstand and misinterpret those teachings as somehow, crazy as it sounds, exhorting to violence. If it weren’t for the imam Tommy, Mohiusunnath Chowdhury would be a florist today. Right?
“Uber driver, 28, plotted to drive his car into ‘evil’ Gay Pride parade to kill non-Muslims, court hears,” by Rod Ardehali, Mailonline, February 4, 2020:
An Uber driver described as a ‘pathetic little man’ by his own barrister planned to drive a van into an ‘evil’ Gay Pride parade to kill non-Muslims, a court has heard.
Mohiussunnath Chowdhury, 28, also singled out Madam Tussauds and a double decker tourist bus as targets, Woolwich Crown Court heard….
In his closing speech prosecutor Duncan Atkinson said: ‘He wrote about ‘paradise under the shades of swords’ and wanting to discuss this with an imam,’ he said….
In 2019 he was still listening to the sermons of Muslim cleric Anwar Awlaki, who he told undercover officers he played for inspiration while he drove to Buckingham Palace in 2017.
On 17 March he played and sent Islamic State propaganda videos calling for battle between believers and non-believers, the court heard.
Mr Atkinson said: ‘He told you that he agreed with what Sheikh Faisal [Abdullah el-Faisal] had to say, he was sending them to undercover officers to educate them, you may think he was seeking to encourage those he sent them to support the views he expressed and shared.
‘He was attracted to Tommy Robinson’s interpretation of Islam as a violent religion you may think his explanation of the book shows both that he had read it and was excited by it.
DHazard says
“In 2019 he was still listening to the sermons of Muslim cleric Anwar Awlaki, who he told undercover officers he played for inspiration while he drove to Buckingham Palace in 2017.”
A source of inspiration that now spans three generations, Amwar Awlaki may be the World’s most successful Islamic terrorist. He was the Muslim “Hitler” who apparently could mesmerize people into becoming murderers. How bad was he? Bad enough that the drone strike that killed him was ordered by Barack Obama, of all people.
Westman says
Awlaki was also a US citizen, something the Mefia(media mafia) ignores while criticisng Trump for eliminating Soleimani. Wasn’t Biden Vice President?
John Galt says
He was a Muslim with a US passport. So what.
winoceros says
He isn’t criticizing, he’s pointing out the irony that Obama felt free to off an erstwhile American citizen while the media wrings its hands over Trump’s crafty strike at a foreign terrorist.
oldschool says
I have a few books about the JFK assassination. I have watched with “excitement” the movie and also the movie about the “Zodiac”. Shall we blame the authors of these books and the screenwriters and producers of these moveis and maybe the actors? Who was to blame for the murder of Lee Rigby? It was, after all, Rigby’s murder and beheading on the public street which brought about Tommy Robinson’s truth-telling. It was not Tommy who instigated the trafficking, torture and murder of British teenage girls – he was not complict by bringing this to light. The officers of the government were complicit, though. Now this prosecutor is complicit in the next atrocity by giving it cover by blaming the messenger. Tommy ought to sue for this obscene libel. Time to shut down the British government if this is the best it can do. And Boris Johnson is no help. He has done nothing to begin reform. Won’t even address the issue. Funny, all the power people over there have no interest in anything other than Brexit, for and against. Listen up, Boris. Brexit is now over. Start cleaning up the pig sty that your own country has become now. No more time to spend basking in Brexit. You can start with dismissing this “prosecutor”. Who is he prosecuting, anyway? Is Tommy to be charged with every “ASIAN” ATROCITY in England from now ow on? I think you British are all insane. Nigel can go on vacation. Boris can go look at a lake somewhere, Tommy can go back to the pokey and the British can all go to hell in a handbasket while their public servants blame not the killers, not the government that backs them (yes – BACKS THEM). You are all disgusting. I’m glad we humiliated you in 1776. I only hope we don’t end up like you. What a rotting disgrace of a country.
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Mark Berlinger says
Well written. Socialism itself is a fallacy. People subjected to it have given up critical thinking.
Janette Wells says
Thank you for the clarity with which you explain the situation in the UK. I live overseas but was born in the UK and didn’t leave until the late 1980’s. I didn’t understand why some of my family in tbe UK were so very angry about the politics and what has been going on. In the last 30 years the government has turned against the people, it has become oppressive and unjust and a danger to the dearly held love of liberty wbich the British nation used to have. Yes, you forged your own path in 1776 and who can blame you. However, Brexit has been seminal in the fight back to recover some of that feeling of choice and justice. Tommy R is a legend. Love the man for his guts. Love the political party “For Britain” headed up by Anne Marie Waters and the activist group Britain First. BF are doing a peaceful door-stepping national campaign to Mosques, cab ranks, kebab and chicken shops etc with literature to make sure that possible Muslim offenders know they will be watched for and reported. The absence of good sensible just national policing encourages the role of citizen vigilante. The govt has miserably failed the UK in the past but action is being taken by others.
Gork says
Of course. We all know it must be someone evil who is not Muslim. You know, like Tommy Robinson.
The BS is so deep that you gotta wear boots.
gravenimage says
Spot on, Gork.
mortimer says
Gork, we need hip waders for the rivers of hot-steaming taqiyya and light-weight, uninformed nonsense coming from the Red-Green Axis of Evil.
Hugh paxton says
Wings!
Old Fat Bald Socially Inept Ron says
“was attracted to Muhammad the Prophet’s interpretation of Islam”
mortimer says
Thank you, OFBSIR, that is correct. If it agrees with Mohammed, then it is Islam, but if it disagrees with Mohammed, then it is not Islamic.
Tommy Robinson agrees that Mohammed is the supreme authority on Islam.
Tommy Robinson agrees that the Islam of Mohammed is barbaric, violent and backward. Tommy reads Islam’s PRIMARY SOURCE TEXTS to gather that opinion.
WHY WOULD A MUSLIM CARE WHAT TOMMY THINKS?
Answer: MUSLIMS DON’T CARE WHAT TOMMY THINKS, BECAUSE HE IS A KAFIR.
TOMMY ROBINSON’S OPINIONS ARE IRRELEVANT TO PIOUS MUSLIMS and NO MUSLIMS FOLLOW HIM.
Thereader says
They try every way they can think of to blacken Tommy’s name.
Diplonerd says
Where’s the thumbs up button on this thing?
winoceros says
Lol. I know. We have to use our words here. Hear, hear! Or Brava! Well said! +1, etc.
Dude says
Those who have read real scripture cannot get through even a few pages of the desert classic. That’s why they are forbidden to read other scriptures. Mere logic should be enough to reject such silliness. But instead of promoting humility their books on every page promote delusions of grandeur. And when you meet them you realize there is nothing you can do for them, God just wants nothing to do with them.
mortimer says
Agree. The Koran is mind-bogglingly incoherent and without chronology. It was obviously thrown together quickly without editing from scraps of notes recording fiery hate-filled sermons by someone whose name is not actually known. The name ‘Mohammed’ is most likely a TITLE meaning the ‘Laudable One’, rather than a personal name.
The incoherence, factual errors and plagiarisms in the Koran prove it is of human origin.
Politicallyincorrectistruth says
Human origin..just like all religions, the factual errors are vast. The bible is so full of stories that never happened it shows how gullible the human race really is. Religious people would rather listen to lies or put their head in the sand than consider the possibility that they have been believing bullshit all their lives.So sad and pathetic. Islam is so vile that it’s followers will never get their head out of the 7th century. Muslims are so easily triggered to violence it’s a sign of what this vile cult does to people. That plus the inbreeding.
Alice W says
Hey! Not all religions are the same! There is a the Bible that speaks of loving your neighbor, not killing him if he is a kafir! Where do you get your morality? Why should people treat each other well if it’s atheism and survival of the fittest? Don’t group all and thrash them out! Atheism is a religion! No better than Islam…
Thereader says
I would say “demonic”, actually.
FYI says
Consider the following.
In whose interest is it that the Golden Rule and the concept of Love of others should be missing or contradicted?
Why does allah not want muslims to know about the Holy Spirit?
{revealed in the Bible a book allah says is TRUE k3:3}
Why does allah teach the OPPOSITE to the 2nd chief commandment of God{“Love thy Neighbor” lev19:18} see koran 5 v 51 where allah tells muslims NOT to be friends with Jews and Christians?
Note that this violates the 2nd Chief commandment of God lev19:18
WHY is allah’s enemy a MAN called “MALIK AL AMLAK”?
{the king of kings}Sahih Muslim vol 5 hadith #5611
WHO is this “Malik al amlak”?
{Only Jesus Christ has that title Rev 19:16}
WHY does islam have a doctrine of HATE{al walaa wal baraa}?
WHY does allah give permission to break the Exodus 20 Laws
{allah says it is ok to kill k2;191,steal from infidels k48:20 etc}
Note This means the 1st chief commandment of God{Deut 6 v 4-9} cannot be obeyed.
if allah admits to being a champion deceiver,how can he be trusted k3:54?
If muhammed admitted to being a fraud{al tabari 6:111} and died from being poisoned..according to the Bible Deuteronomy 18 v 20 and[amazingly} also the koran{for details see You Tube acts17apologetics who killed muhammed?} that could only have happened because he was proven to be a false prophet.
It is easy to see allah is not a good God:he is in fact a pagan Arab god called LAH,i believe to be the diabolus simius dei.
Ray Jarman says
The prosecutor, Duncan Atkinson, must have studied with Adam Schiff. He is completely delusional and besides, why would a prosecutor try to provide a defendant with a defense? If Tommy Robinson’s reporting the truth is a plea for acquittal or a cause of mental disorder, “Houston, we have a problem.” After reading so many of these incidents here on JihadWatch, I sometimes think I have fallen down the rabbit hole with Alice because everything seems to be up side down.
James Lincoln says
Ray Jarman says,
“I sometimes think I have fallen down the rabbit hole with Alice because everything seems to be up side down.”
It’s because things really are upside down…
mortimer says
Excellent description from JL: ‘UPSIDE DOWN’.
If Mohiussunnath Chowdhury actually FOLLOWED Tommy Robinson or AGREED with Tommy Robinson, then Mohiussunnath Chowdhury WOULD ABANDON ISLAM.
Tommy is ENCOURAGING Muslims to lead Islam, rather than practice its violent creed.
The argument of barrister Atkinson is UPSIDE DOWN and BACK TO FRONT.
mortimer says
correction : Tommy is encouraging Muslims to LEAVE and ABANDON Islam and CONDEMN IT for its violence and savagery …
ntesdorf says
The UK Prosecutor was probably standing on his head when he made his assessment of the causes of the Jihad urge in Mohiussunnath Chowdhury. Qur’an, Haddith, Sunna of Mohammed? What are they?
Jayell says
Tommy Robinson didn’t ‘interpret’ islam, he accurately reported it and the actions of muslims that he’d been observing. So now the reporter is apparently ipso facto responsible for initiating or/and enacting the stories the stories/crimes that he reports? He’s reported it, he describes it, therefore he’s responsible for doing it? Take this a step further and you’d be saying that the police officer is ipso facto guilty of the crime he investigates. What stupid garbage is this? The rubbish that the UK establishment would dredge up to try to defend their supine sucking up to muslims and criminal, Stssi-style harrassment of Tommy Robinson is beyond belief.
James Lincoln says
Jayell says,
“What stupid garbage is this?”
You are correct, it is total GARBAGE…
Mike Perloff says
Excellent analogy and analysis.
keith says
So Tommy Robinson is now an imman?
Next they will be telling us he was on the grassy knoll and killed Kennedy.
His mouthpiece is really grasping at straws.
eduardo odraude says
Poor broken spineless prosecutor wimps out and safely mouths some of the same propaganda out of jihadists’ mouths. Blame the victim of jihad and blame those who resist jihad. This prosecutor is a coward, a craven conformist, an ignoramus, or a mix of all three. He ought to be ashamed for pinning this on Tommy Robinson.
janwog says
A unwilling joke. The craziness of the Dhimi British Elite has announced that Imam Tomy Robinson Khan is a preacher of the Islamist mosque.
Peter WF says
Is that a back handed complement to Tommy Robinson? Who should we can the “Pied Piper”? The prosecutor or …?
Peter WF says
Correction –
Is that a back handed complement to Tommy Robinson? Who should we call the “Pied Piper”? The prosecutor or …?
gravenimage says
UK: Prosecutor says Muslim who plotted jihad massacres “was attracted to Tommy Robinson’s interpretation of Islam”
…………………
Just ludicrous–as though violent Islam was invented by Anti-Jihadists, and has nothing to do with Islam.
This would be like saying that a Nazi who ran off to join Hitler ‘was attracted by Winston Churchill’s interpretation of Fascism’.
Jason says
Such incredible bull-da-dash. What Muslim would take religious instruction from a kaffir?
mortimer says
Lawyer Duncan Atkinson is arguing that an ENEMY of Islam (the KAFIR Tommy Robinson) somehow convinced a MUSLIM to be violent, when that enemy (Tommy Robinson) was in fact DENOUNCING and CONDEMNING the violence of JIHADISM.
ANWAR AWLAKI’S INSPIRATIONAL SERMONS are the actual source of Mohiussunnath Chowdhury’s LOVE OF JIHADISM.
I have read Anwar Awlaki’s jihadist sermons. Has Mr. Atkinson READ THOSE SERMONS?
Somehow, I think Mr. Atkinson HAS NOT READ the jihadist sermons of the late Anwar Awlaki.
Mr. Atkinson is unread and unstudied in the matter of jihadism, and yet, preposterously, he presents himself as a SPONTANEOUS expert on JIHADISM.
No Muslim would turn to jihadism on the basis of the opinions of the DIRTY KUFAAR.
mortimer says
Message to barrister Duncan Atkinson:
The version of jihadic Islam DENOUNCED and COMDEMNED by Tommy Robinson is in fact the OFFICIAL RELIGION of Saudi Arabia, called ‘WAHHABISM’ or ‘SALAFISM’.
Colin Broughton says
If Tommy Robinson thinks that Islam is a violent, malignant belief, he’s in good company. Here is the view of the Scottish Enlightenment philosopher, David Hume:
“But would we know, whether the pretended prophet had really attained a just sentiment of morals?
Let us attend to his narration; and we shall soon find, that he bestows praise on such instances of treachery, inhumanity, cruelty, revenge, bigotry, as are utterly incompatible with civilized society.
No steady rule of right seems there to be attended to; and every action is blamed or praised, so far only as it is beneficial or hurtful to the true believers.”
“Of the Standard of Taste: Paragraph 4” (1757).
Thereader says
Very good. Thanks for this.
No Muzzies Here says
So Robinson is being blamed for the committment to violence. Robinson didn’t create the idea that Islam is a violent religion. Islam had already done that.
Norger says
So he heard Tommy Robinson’s view of Islam and said “that’s the ticket!” Just unbelievable.
Larry says
So, Mr Prosecutor, how do you explain the last 1400 years of violent Jihad before Tommy was born? Don’t know the history of Islam from its inception? Shame on you. What a baffoon.
Steve says
Alice W – You say “Atheism is a religion! No better than Islam…” I find it hard that you or anyone could write or believe this. Atheism is a non belief. That is all. An Atheist is simply someone who has not seen or found any evidence to believe in a god. It is the same as my not believeing in a tooth fairy. I have not seen or found any evidence to support a belief in a tooth fairy.
Mark Berlinger says
That is all?
You are hiding behind the narrow definition. Several ungodly 20th century Socialist movements are responsible for the deaths of tens of millions. Add the eugenics of abortion and the death toll rivals fourteen centuries of Arab supremacism.
Steve says
Yes, several “Socialist movements” as you correctly say are responsible for the deaths of tens of millions. Socialist movements, NOT Atheism. Atheism has no belief, no creed, no doctrine, no written work etc. As an atheist I seek to put into practice the golden rule. Do to others as you would like them to do to you and do not do to others what you would not like done to you.
Mark Berlinger says
The leaders of past Socialist movements e. g. Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Sanger, were unabashed atheists. The indiscriminate modern Socialists of the Democrat Party for example are more deceptive and far more deadly. Realize the ‘do unto others’ belief is from Matthew and Luke. There is no golden rule in Islam. Golden rule atheists are like the person with a COEXIST sticker on the bumper of his small foreign car. It always makes me laugh.
gravenimage says
Agreed, Steve. The is nothing in just not believing in a god that teaches savagery.
Mark Berlinger says
The state’s counselor should read the Qur’an before disparaging anyone who has.
Steve says
Mark, I would sugest that the common factor between Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot etc is that they would be classed as psychopaths or having psychopathic tendencies – (a person having an egocentric and antisocial personality marked by a lack of remorse for one’s actions, an absence of empathy for others, and often criminal tendencies).
The Golden Rule predates the New Testament. It can be found in the Old Testament Leviticus 19:18 as well as in Buddhism, Jainism, Confucianism etc