My latest in PJ Media:
I’ve been writing about the ills of jihad violence and Sharia-inspired oppression of women and others for nearly two decades now, so imagine my surprise when I woke up one morning to find myself guilty of inspiring a jihad attack.
Yes, as far-fetched as it sounds, Lizzie Dearden of the UK’s Independent has blamed the “radicalization” of a Muslim who attacked police with a sword outside Buckingham Palace on Tommy Robinson, Christian apologist David Wood, and me. Apparently Dearden thinks that if we all pretend that Islam is a religion of peace and never speak about its teachings calling for warfare against unbelievers and their subjugation under the rule of Islamic law, jihad activity will go away.
For it seems that there are, in Dearden’s charmed world, no Muslims preaching violence in the name of Islam; she would have us believe that only Muslims do that.
That is the point of this spectacularly ridiculous article about how jihad terrorist Mohiussunnath Chowdhury, whose hate and bloodlust I have covered a great deal over at Jihad Watch, claims he learned from Tommy, David and me.
It’s a bit eye-popping to see us falsely accused of inciting violence by a Muslim, when usually we’re falsely accused of inciting violence against Muslims, but there it is. Dearden readily repeats Chowdhury’s claims in her article as if they were completely on the level, and intones piously on Twitter: “Those on the right who are spouting the same theological claims as Islamists should take a hard look at themselves.” She would have us believe that Chowdhury learned from us that Islam teaches violence, but entirely missed all the material we present about how those teachings make people behave monstrously, and that Sharia is bad for individuals and societies, etc.
It’s easy to see the reason for this selective reading. Apparently the establishment media has simply decided that Tommy, David and I are awful people — “far-right,” of course, for the crime of opposing jihad violence and Sharia oppression of women — and “journalists” such as Dearden don’t care how much they have to tie themselves into logical knots to establish this.
Dearden is not entirely divorced from reality, but the papers have been served and the proceedings are well advanced. She does mention in a single paragraph that Chowdhury was inspired by Anwar al-Awlaki and Sheikh Faisal, but gives over her headline and 21 paragraphs to trying to convince her readers that Robinson, Wood and I inspired Chowdhury.
Her guiding assumption in this, of course, is that Islam is a Religion of Peace, which Robinson, Wood and I are misinterpreting and thereby validating the jihadist interpretation — as if Chowdhury would have been a peaceful, loyal, productive British citizen if he hadn’t run afoul of our writings telling him the Qur’an taught violence.
If that were so, why were no Muslim clerics, with whom Chowdhury was manifestly in contact, unable to convince him of the true, peaceful Islam? Why was there jihad violence for 1,400 years before Tommy, David, or I wrote or said anything? If we validated the jihadist interpretation of Islam, where did it come from, and why did it have so much resonance among Muslims before we came along?
There is much more. Read the rest here.
Ray Jarman says
So Robert Spencer, et al, has caused Islamic terror. Try explaining this to the poor Christians in Plateau State, Nigeria or innocent non-Islamic Thais that have been slaughtered by this Muslim sub-human excrement where Tommy Robinson and David Woods names have never been spoken. The left is constantly trying to etiologically destroy all that is good.
gravenimage says
+1
Ray Jarman says
Gravenimage, Thanks
GOLDMANN says
“Ha” “Ha’ – LIARS!!? DON’T believe them Mr Spencer ??? GOD BLESS YOU SIR .
GOLDMANN says
Thankyou !! To you and Mrs Geller ?? l had NO IDEA ALL THIS WAS GOING ON !! thanks to the internet l stumbled on ms Gellers site one day. I watch MR BILL WARNER as . Well.
AP says
+1
Rob Porter says
Note how many among us deride Muslims as inbred and thus really very stupid. Well, many are, but the likes of Dearden demonstrate that many liberals in the West are either similarly inbred or astoundingly stupid and dishonest in a manner that reflects the consequences of Muslim inbreeding.
Rarely says
Does a rabid dog become more dangerous because you call it a danger? Perhaps to some.
A twisted argument could be made, I suppose, that there are some muslims who having otherwise missed the message came to understand it by the clarity with which RS writes. Such people would make great standup comics but never responsible journalists (an oxymoron in today’s world).
gravenimage says
Good points.
mortimer says
I don’t think they should be compared to rabid dogs, even though Winston Churchill made this comparison famously. And I think that ZERO Muslims decide to join the jihad after reading about jihad in the books and articles of Robert Spencer. Muslim literature is sufficient to radicalize them.
There are several ‘MUST-READ’ jihad manuals circulating among Muslims. Jihadists also circulate videos on DVD and on memory sticks. The sermons of Anwar Awlaki (which I have read) have been very effective in radicalizing low-key Muslims.
The Muslims writers and preachers are motivating new jihadists and don’t need Robert Spencer.
Muslims would merely dismiss WHATEVER a kafir said or wrote.
James Lincoln says
mortimer says,
“I don’t think they should be compared to rabid dogs”
At least there is a vaccine to prevent rabies in dogs.
Now if only there were a “vaccine” to stop the spread of islam…
Rarely says
Sarcasm, Mortimer, sarcasm.
underbed cat says
Sorry Robert you don’t fit the jihadist profile, um I mean not a chance, explain where a jihadist learns it yes, act on it no, report on it happening yes, aid it no, understand why it happens yes, you know that the jihadist are Quranic taught but the mosque will deny it yes, do they speak the truth, no. So it is the jihadist that reads the Quran and thinks it is required action to bring paradise, and hears the lectures, will he get there in his mind, yes, in my mind not likely. So now he may get another chance if he trys to blame you, and forget about the Quran, or sharia law or the bearded iman who likes to encourage others but not himself…and it is not you who sends him but it is his obligation to deny that is his quranic duty to protect and pretend those in the mosque never heard of such a requriement.. Religion of peace? No. Not peaceful but very clever in appearing so and denying the texts to do dawah.
gravenimage says
Was Jihadi Really Inspired by Tommy Robinson and Robert Spencer?
…………………
This is like saying that Hitler Youth were inspired to join the Nazis by Winston Churchill warning about the threat of Fascism. Just grotesque calumny.
The idea that if you just ignore this threat that it will somehow go away is of course ludicrous.
mortimer says
Excellent comparison. No German joined the Nazi party because of Churchill, but many did because of the weakness of Chamberlain. They thought the British would not resist.
The Revd Dr Alan C. Clifford says
A very appropriate parallel. In Norwich, UK, I was accused of a ‘hate crime’ for explaining Islamic hate in my tract ‘WHY NOT ISLAM’. Our PC authorities do not trade in truth information, only truth distortion.
gravenimage says
Thank you, Mortimer and Revd Dr Clifford. And glad to hear about your tract–sorry but not surprised at the reception it got. I hope some did learn from it, though.
James Lincoln says
For those of us who strive to evaluate “the world” using factual, evidence-based logic, listening to the likes of Lizzie Dearden of the UK’s Independent is absolutely maddening…
mortimer says
It is shameful that propagandists like Lizzie Dearden recycle the Leftist narrative of SEE-NO-EVIL-IN-ISLAM, rather than read Islam’s source texts that promote supremacist warfare against non-Muslims.
1400 years of Islamic history prove with thousands of examples that Islam uses violence to promote its IDEOLOGY OF UNIVERALS MUSLIM under DISCRIMINATORY SHARIA LAW.
Lizzie Dearden is unread and unstudied. She is guessing and making assumptions about what Islam teaches, rather than STUDYING.
Not good enough, Liz. A journalist is not paid to GUESS.
mortimer says
correction … IDEOLOGY OF UNIVERAL MUSLIM SUPREMACISM under DISCRIMINATORY SHARIA LAW.
Templer says
Islam is worse than the Natzes haterd off Jewish people even though in the book it says leave the people off the haterd off the chirstains and any other fath othe islam which allows sex with children,goats and drinks camel piss I mean come on islam is nothing more than a cult cry’s while it’s a minortey killes everone even there own hen mojortey
ManchesterLad says
Well, I’ve been reading Jihadwatch for probably ten years, or more.
Thankfully, I’ve never felt the need to behead someone, gang rape a child, or blow myself up in the middle of a crowd of children.
Phew. despite knowing quite a lot about Islam, I guess it’s just lucky I’ve not done any of these things, or even wanted to do them?
You’d have to be deranged to read about standard Islamic atrocities without thinking how disgusting and inhuman an ideology like this surely must be. What sort of person would read about atrocities and think “that’s something I want to get involved with”.
underbed cat says
MandchesterLad, I agree I have also read Jihad Watch, the facts about the doctrine and atrocities only confirm it is not peaceful nor anything I would get involved with, but the fact that our national security has been in some cases submitting and allowing muslim advisors to define themselves and in some cases opened the door for migration or train terror groups abroad sickens me. Handing over rights to a doctrine that wants to slay you shows how easy it has been for the deep penetration and growth of mosques across our country. However I acknowledge that some do the work, but if they don’t study the doctrine…they will easily be deceived. I know that there is a message for the muslims and a different message to the govenrment or leaders, and treaties are never allowed to be agreed too, unless they want a pause, time frame to reemerge after being weakened.
So the deception is the key they use, and we need to acknowledge that information about Islam to stop wasting time on agreements that wash away in rain and stop entry unless they want to leave Islam at the door, but hijrah migration is not to leave it behind it is to implant it and evil commands around the world.
Jim says
Robert, the reason they are blaming it on you and Tommy Robinson is to shut you up.
gravenimage says
Spot on, Jim.
James Lincoln says
“Roger that”
Natasha Romanova says
Please, Mr. Spencer, do a live stream with Dr. David Wood to discuss this article! It is fascinating. Also, please include the Apostate Prophet, if possible.
hammar says
mohammad was no prophet to begin with. He was a killer, child rapist, pillager and thief. Some resume.
tgusa says
Robert Spencer is 1400 years old? Wow has he aged well. I want to get some of whatever he has been eating and drinking.
gravenimage says
🙂
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
There seems to be something wrong with the grammar of the English in these two sentences:
“For it seems that there are, in Dearden’s charmed world, no Muslims preaching violence in the name of Islam; she would have us believe that only Muslims do that. [The ax-wielding Lizzie Dearden wants people to believe that only Muslims preach violence in the name of Islam? Isn’t she right? Name a few non-Muslims who preach this.] That is the point of this spectacularly ridiculous article about how jihad terrorist Mohiussunnath Chowdhury, whose hate and bloodlust I have covered a great deal over at Jihad Watch, claims he learned [learned what?] from Tommy, David and me.”
Michael Copeland says
It seems there is a “non-” missing: “she would have us believe that only non-Muslims do that”.
mortimer says
Monumental and unforgiveable ignorance of the basic POLITICAL teachings of Islam is the cause of these SPONTANEOUS and UNSTUDIED assumptions by European elites.
The foundational teachings of political Islam WILL NOT GO AWAY merely by IGNORING them.
Those jihadic teachings are all in the Sira, Koran, hadiths and classical commentaries (tafsirs). Without reading the source texts, European elites are merely GUESSING what Islam teaches.
GUESSING is not good enough in anyone who tries to lead in public opinion.
mortimer says
Lizzie Dearden of the UK’s Independent should read the following OFFICIAL DEFINITION of “jihad” published by the Saudi government.
“Jihad is holy fighting in Allah’s Cause with full force of numbers and weaponry. It is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars. By Jihad Islam is established, Allah’s Word is made superior (which means only Allah has the right to be worshiped), and Islam is propagated. By abandoning Jihad Islam is destroyed and Muslims fall into an inferior position; their honor is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim. He who tries to escape from this duty, or does not fulfill this duty, dies as a hypocrite.” – footnotes on p.39, ‘The Noble Koran’, published by King Fahd Complex for Publication of the Quran, Madinah, KSA.
mortimer says
Lizzie Dearden should read all of Anwar Awlaki’s sermons to see for herself that they are sufficient to motivate and radicalize Muslims to conduct jihad.
Quote from sermon ‘Allah is preparing us for victory’ by Anwar Awlaki:
“So the solution for the Ummah is Jihad fe Sabeelillah. When the Ummah revives
this ‘Ibaadah58, it becomes ironical; Jihad fe Sabeelillah becomes an irony. People
run away from it because they see that is it a loss of money and it’s also a loss
of self; you could loose life and you could loose your wealth in Jihad fe
Sabeelillah. The irony is that when the Ummah fights Jihad fe Sabeelillah, the
Ummah becomes the wealthiest and when the Ummah is fighting Jihad fe
Sabeelillah, the least of this Ummah die.
If we were to draw a graph of the death toll, you will find that very few
Muslims died when the Ummah was fighting Jihad fe Sabeelillah whereas when
the Ummah left Jihad fe Sabeelillah, the death toll is in millions. If we draw a
curve of the financial situation you will find that the Ummah becomes the
wealthiest in the times of Jihad fe Sabeelillah and they become the poorest when
they leave Jihad fe Sabeelillah.
The Islamic state is unique in history; it is the only state that did not tax its
population. Why did it not tax its population? It had income that came from
Jizyah, Kharaaj, Ghaneema, and Fay’59. All of these are income that comes from
Jihad; so the government does not have to tax the population anymore. But
now that the Muslim Ummah is not doing Jihad fe Sabeelillah, they end up
taxing the population and Rasoolullah (sallallahu ‘alayhe wassallam) said ‘Taxes
is haraam and the one who deals in any job related to taxes is cursed.’”
Chris says
We all know the scum bag lawyer, the corrupt justice system and the fake news media orchestrated this smear campaign against Tommy, David & R.S.!
R Russell says
I am going to say something many might not agree with!
Yes, I believe he was inspired by the apologists he names. Why do I say that? They drew attention to genuine Islam and he realised what he needed to do to be a real Muslim.
gravenimage says
With all respect, I doubt that he learned that from Robert Spencer.
Harry Again says
The jihad genies was let out of the box by the invasion of Iraq and later interference in Libya and Syria.
The likes of Saddam and Gadaffi kept jihadis well under control.
Now they are gone thanks to war criminals Bush and Bliar.
gravenimage says
Gadaffi was himself a Jihadist. Have you forgotten about Lockerbie?
Graham says
Is it true, or did you read it in ‘The Independent’?
Michael Copeland says
Memo to Lizzie Dearden:
See “Islam’s Agenda: Muslims Speak”
https://gatesofvienna.net/2020/02/islams-agenda-muslims-speak/
Dorothy Davies says
Never read The Independant – it is wrongly named for a start – but if they employ ignorant, stupid and lying people who call themselves “journalists” I am glad I haven’t wasted my time. There are 6better things to read.
eaglesaltneptune33786 says
You are right we call it the Daily Oligarch, it is owned by a Russian thief.
ZIRKSTY (@ZIRKSTY) says
You are going to have to grow your beard much longer Robert!
Capstan Full Strengh (@CStrengh) says
Good point.
gravenimage says
Very funny!
Mark says
Islam’s founder Muhammad proclaimed “I have been victorious thru terror”
Quran teachings:
Quran 2:191 “kill them wherever you overtake them……such is the recompense of the disbelievers”
Quran 47:4 “when you meet disbelievers strike their necks”
Quran 4:89 “if they turn away (from islam) seize them & kill them”
Quran 5:51 ” take no Jew or Christian as an ally”
Quran 8:12 “cast TERROR into the hearts of those who disbelieve, so strike their necks”
Quran 8:60 “prepare whatever steeds of war you are able that you may TERRIFY the enemies of allah”
Quran 8:67 “it is not for a prophet to have captives of war until he inflicts a slaughter upon the land”
Quran 9:5 “when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists”
Quran 8:39 “fight til all religion is for allah”
Hadith 6985 “the last hour will not come until muslims will fight against the Jews, and muslims will kill the Jews….”
There are 109 verses of persecution & murder against non-muslims (aka disbelievers)
islam is a cult of bullying, aggression, intolerance and yes murdering simply for being a disbeliever
……islam has no place in civilized society
Prison psychologist Nicholai Sennels wrote “mind numbing repetition of Islam’s exceedingly violent verses makes many muslims ticking time bombs wherever they live”
#WalkAwayFromIslam
#WalkAwayFromDemocrats (promoters & defenders of Islam)
Bob Thompson says
Quran 8:39 “fight til all religion is for allah”
If ALL Muslims are taught this, here are some questions:
How many Muslims fight with violence?
How many Muslims fight non violently?
How can we tell before they become violent?
How can we tell before their non-violent Jihad becomes effective?
What are the warning signs that non-violent jihad is working?
gravenimage says
Of course. violent Jihad and stealth Jihad are both tactics with the same aim.
Roger Woodhouse says
People like Lizzie Deardon will not bother studying Islam any more than she would study the Bible.She would never believe people could take those books seriously anyway.She will defend the muslims as being ‘victims’ to British ‘racism’. Thats all she knows.She could never believe that any sane person could be so influenced by ‘a book’ to kill a fellow human being without just cause (and what better a cause than fighting British racism.)She will blame anyone on’the right’ and be believed by all ‘Independent’ readers who afterall is said and done she is speaking to .Shes a nobody but a hack journalist who will follow the rest if her kind into oblivion very shortly.
Bob Thompson says
The Lesson of Appeasement
“We fully understand that the Treaty of Versailles was a complete failure, that the major powers who negotiated peace in Paris through selfish, self-serving, hidden agendas set themselves up for failure by refusing Germany a seat at the table, by placing all blame on Germany and Germany alone, and by conceding to egotistical demands instead of logical reason… but this was not the only thing that worked against peace after WWI ended… indeed, while the treaty worked to fuel anger and discontent amongst a starved population burdened by impossible-to-fulfill demands, any opportunity to prevent a second war was squandered by even more petty and misguided politics. Working silently right along-side of the failure treaty was a failed political policy called “Appeasement”…”
https://www.warfighterjournal.com/2015/12/01/the-lesson-of-appeasement/
gravenimage says
Bob, one can argue about the Treaty of Versailles. But by the time of the rise of Hitler it was little enforced, and even many Britons and other Allies thought it was time for a new, more liberal treaty. But you often hear Fascist apologists claim that that Hitler and WWII were inevitable because of this treaty, which is much mistaken.
Walter Sieruk says
As for the ,absurd, claim that informed patriotic conservative activists and writers , as Tommy Robinson and Robert Spencer , who expose the threats and dangers of Islam and Islam’s jihad to Western civilization have had in some ,far out and strange nonsensical way inspired of even caused Muslim terrorists to engage in Islamic violence of not only false and unfair but also slanderous .
For actual ,,real, cause of Muslim terrorism is the violent and deadly essence of Islam and Islam’s jihad.
Furthermore, with such a bogus idea knowledgeable conservative writers who expose the horrors of about Islam and its violence might inspire jihadist attacks only further proves valid the other idea which is that “Evil is always looking for an excuse.”
Templer says
Islam is satin controlled jihaissatin controlled people live like there gods look at Muslim mojorety countrey s look at chirstain mojortey Conroe’s look at them since the Muslim s increase enough said
Don Ameche says
Were Tommy Robinson and Robert Spencer responsible for the start of islamic Jihadism 1,400 years ago too ? How about the 911 attacks and etc ???
How about Thomas Jefferson’s opinion of islam….or Winston Churchill’s opinion. Did Tommy and Robert inform them as well ??
Dearden’s comments are themselves example of Jihad…. IMHO.
SteveA56 says
Excellent analysis Robert.
Just one thing though; you say-
‘For it seems that there are, in Dearden’s charmed world, no Muslims preaching violence in the name of Islam; she would have us believe that only Muslims do that.’
Don’t you mean ‘only non-Muslims do that’ ?
A Gnostic Agnostic says
House of Islam to be exposed for global corruption.
Please take note of the general ‘religious’ tactic of Muhammadans: commit a crime, blame others.
Scapegoating the crimes of ones own onto others is a/the Canaanite practice of (human) sacrifice. Do not let the House of Islam continue to scapegoat/blame others for their own crimes: this is the utility of the ‘Jew’: the global scapegoat for the House of Islam. There is no distinction between a Jew and a Muslim: spilling blood over books and idols, blaming/harassing/slandering others. They are the very thing they claim to hate.
The day the House of Islam loses their ability to scapegoat their own crimes onto others, is the day the House of Islam collapses: it is their lifeblood, thus their need for ‘believers’ to ‘believe’ the false accusations.
The shahada is a false witness contrary to the ten commandments ‘thou shalt not bear a false witness against thy neighbor’ as it is impossible to bear a true witness of a dead man, and is thus violated by everyone who joins for “access”.
The House of Islam is truly the House of Pig.