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Philadelphia: Imam says “We don’t want any progressive Islam….We do not support or advocate for ‘modern Islam'”

Mar 31, 2020 11:00 am By Robert Spencer

All the smooth-talking and soothing professional moderate Muslims who have so beguiled so many people who should know better should take note of this, and explain exactly how Nafis Abu Zayd is misunderstanding Islam when he denies any interest in a reformed Islam. The West is staking its future on the reform of Islam, and here is a Muslim cleric ruling out Islamic reform as a possibility. So what are we to think now? Would our moral superiors care to explain?

“Philadelphia Imam Nafis Abu Zayd: Homosexuality Is a Psychological Disease; We Will Fight Back against Progressive, Modern Islam,” MEMRI, March 10, 2020:

On March 10, 2020, Philadelphia Imam Nafis Abu Zayd posted a lecture to the Maktabah Ibn Taymiyyah YouTube channel that was titled “The LGBT Community Will Never Be Endorsed by Islam.” Describing homosexual acts as heinous, he said that homosexuality is a psychological disease that is played on by Satan and that homosexuals prefer their sexual perversions over their God-given reason and intellect. He criticized progressive Muslims who try to find loopholes in Islam in order to accept the LGBTQ community under the pretext of civil rights and inclusion. Imam Abu Zayd also said that Allah would deal with today’s homosexuals like he dealt with the homosexuals in Sodom and Gomorrah, and he explained that there is a “global agenda of homosexuality” that uses subliminal messages in order to indoctrinate people. In addition, he cited Quranic verses that said that the Jews and the Christians will never be pleased with the Muslims until they follow their way and that Muslims must not take Jews and Christians as allies. Towards the end of his lecture, Imam Abu Zayd emphasized that Muslims are not willing to compromise their religion, that they oppose anything that goes against the Quran and the Sunnah, and that they reject progressive Islam. He added: “Islam doesn’t need your progression… We do not support or advocate for modern Islam [or] for the LGBTQ community, ever.” Maktabah Ibn Taymiyyah is an Islamic library in Philadelphia. Imam Abu Zayd’s lecture was a response to a recent lecture by prominent American scholar Omar Suleiman that was titled “Alliances and Coalition Building.” Sheikh Suleiman had delivered his lecture, which has drawn some criticism from the Muslim community, at the LGBTQ+ Conference that was hosted by the East Plano Islamic Center in Plano, Texas.

Imam Nafis Abu Zayd: “If you commit this hideous act, if you paraded around, it’s dhalim [i.e. sin]. And if you say it’s a psychological disorder – yes it is.

[…]

“The creator of everything is not responding in a sympathetic way, so why are you doing that? Tell me. Come on man. You’re not going to water me down. Not with that stuff.

[…]

“Many of you don’t know about the story of Lut [i.e., the figure known as Lot in the Bible].

[…]

“His wife, the reason why she was lagged behind is because she was one of those people who were sympathetic to the sexual perversion and deviance of these people. Which reminds me of a lot of individuals within the Muslim community and outside the Muslim community.

[…]

“They try to find loopholes, they try to find ways to bring in, this humanitarian, this civil rights, this ‘we need to be inclusive… They’re all from our fellow human beings.’ No, they have secluded themselves.

[…]

“It is the natural order that a man is with a woman and a woman is with a man. That’s the natural order.

[…]

“They’re not going to get me to buy that it was so much trauma that they had in their life… Other than the fact that it’s a disease and shaytan [Satan] is playing them.

[…]

“And they were so bold back then. They already told him… Just bring the punishment, come on, bring it. You said your Lord would destroy us, bring it. Oh, Allah brought it. Allah brought it, trust me. He brought it.

[…]

“Allah is going to deal with them. Yes, he’s going to deal with them. That is the way it is going to get done. We have to realize this. This doesn’t mean hatred. See, they want you to think that this is hatred.

[…]

“You are going to get dealt with, just like Allah dealt with these individuals.

[…]

“The Jew and the Christians will never be pleased with you, oh Mohammed, until you follow their way.

[…]

“The worst crime that you can commit on earth is to commit shirk [polytheism] and disbelieve in Allah. This is the worst thing. So you mean to tell me that it is an honor to be with someone who disbelieves in Allah?

[…]

“If a Muslim makes a statement like that, something is wrong with his aqeedah [creed].

[…]

“This is not permissible – for the believers to take the non-believers as helpers, friends, confidants, protectors.

[…]

“We’re going to call a spade a spade. You have a sexual perversion, alright, and you prefer that sexual perversion over your reason – the God-given faculty that Allah, which is your intellect.

[…]

“There is a global agenda of homosexuality…

[…]

“They study the way that human beings interact, the way that human beings move. What gets them ticking, what doesn’t… They do that. And they gradually have been sending subliminal messages and doing certain things with what you do, taking statistics, and seeing how to program, and to introduce this indoctrination.

[…]

“If you want to come and push an agenda that’s other than kitaab wa sunnah [Quran and Hadith] – we will stand against you. We will mention you by name. We will point out your faults, and go into that issue.

[…]

“We will fight back. This is Islam. We’re not going to remain silent.

[…]

“We don’t want any progressive Islam.

[…]

“[To] anyone that pushes an agenda about ‘Progressive Islam’ – Islam doesn’t need your progression.

[…]

“We do not support or advocate for ‘modern Islam.’ We do not support or advocate for the LGBT community ever. We do not support or advocate for anything that goes against kitaab wa sunnah.”

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Filed Under: Featured, homosexuals, Islamic reform, Muslim clerics Tagged With: Maktabah Ibn Taymiyyah, Nafis Abu Zayd, Pennsylvania, Philadelphia


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  1. FYI says

    Mar 31, 2020 at 11:45 am

    You know what is “heinous”?

    Slavery

    An activity earnestly indulged in by this ‘holy’ man of islam’s “prophet”, muhammed.

    muhammed:the owner,buyer and seller of black African slaves {Sahih Muslim 3901}
    An activity that STILL happens today in the islamic world.

    “Hideous acts”:like muhammed{PBUH,Poison Be the Undoing of him} indulged in?Murder{Abu dawud 4390},black African slave trading{Sahih muslim 3901},raping a 9 year old “woman” Aisha……?

    That is some Rap-sheet for a ‘holy’ man,the al insan al kamil,the “perfect man” who even admitted to being a fraud{al tabari 6:111}

    Abu Zayd would have been in chains had he lived in muhammed’s time:but muslims never get Irony.

    Tell us imam,is it the “natural order” for a middle aged man to deflower a little girl as the ‘holy’ prophet muhammed did with Aisha?Now,Isn’t that what some folk call pedophilia?

    • PRCS says

      Mar 31, 2020 at 2:44 pm

      Muslim duplicity:
      Saying “all the prophets” and also “the Prophet”

      When Muslims are asked which of Muhammad’s “prophesies” have actually come to pass…..

      • Michael Copeland says

        Mar 31, 2020 at 4:41 pm

        “Muslims will be the scum and the rubbish even though their numbers may increase; the enemy will not fear Muslims anymore. This will be because the Muslims will love world and dislike death.”
        (Sunaan Abu Dawud, 37.4284) ..

    • Jaleel Shakir says

      Apr 13, 2020 at 3:19 pm

      This is a lie and more propaganda against the Prophet of Islaam. If all Prophets are from G-D with a message for the Abrahamic Faiths, tell me how can G-D almighty sanction the rape of a child.

  2. mortimer says

    Mar 31, 2020 at 11:48 am

    Imam Nafis Abu Zayd’s rantings should be mailed to every gay person so that they will lose their delusion that Islam is their friend.

    Imam Nafis Abu Zayd also claims that ‘SHIRK’ (wrong worship) is the WORST CRIME … the ‘worst crime’ obviously deserves the death penalty, doesn’t it?

    He also teaches Muslims to hate KAFIRS ‘for the sake of Allah’ and never befriend them. What he is teaching is ORTHODOX SALAFISM … an authentic doctrine called Al Walaa wal Baraa.

    If you do not study AL WALAA WAL BARAA, you cannot understand the teaching of Imam Nafis Abu Zayd.

  3. Emilie Green says

    Mar 31, 2020 at 12:31 pm

    Pop Quiz.

    A forehead raisin, a zebiba, is a sign certain that you’re in the presence of a [. . . . .].

    Fill the blank.

    • Diane Harvey says

      Mar 31, 2020 at 1:29 pm

      Someone who should not be listened to.

    • FYI says

      Mar 31, 2020 at 1:40 pm

      A …cognitively-dissonant,fraudulently pious,completely delusional islamic ‘holy’ fool

    • Westman says

      Mar 31, 2020 at 1:56 pm

      Cycloidic kitaab-cyborg.

    • tim gallagher says

      Mar 31, 2020 at 6:15 pm

      brain injured, brain dead fuckwit.

      • gravenimage says

        Apr 1, 2020 at 9:52 pm

        Yeah–that’s it!

        • tim gallagher says

          Apr 2, 2020 at 4:54 am

          Thanks, gravenimage. I was thinking of an acquired brain injury, such as boxers and football players get, from thumping your head on the ground over and over again (as if any god would want people to do such a moronic thing), but then I thought, nope, brain dead would be more accurate, and definitely a fuckwit, no doubt about that.

  4. Jaladhi says

    Mar 31, 2020 at 12:50 pm

    Why don’t these guys go back to Saudi Arabia and practice their 7th century Islam there instead of here! I am sure we raise the funds for their air ticket or for a camel ride!

  5. commonsense says

    Mar 31, 2020 at 1:25 pm

    Abu Zayd is probably an ex-con who “reverted” to Islam in prison. Bets, anyone?

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 31, 2020 at 10:02 pm

      Good bet.

  6. Jayell says

    Mar 31, 2020 at 1:45 pm

    Of course you can’t have ‘progressive’ islam’. It’s clearly written in thie ‘holy books’ – islam has to be retrogressive, stuck back in the 7th century. That’s all its disciples can handle. In any case, it was never any more than a bogus front for criminal con-artist.

  7. CogitoErgoSum says

    Mar 31, 2020 at 2:45 pm

    Koran 5:3 says: “This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion.”

    The Koran says that the religion of Islam has already been perfected. Anyone who believes it needs to be changed or reformed does not believe Allah speaks the truth.

    Okay, so when did Islam become not perfect? Maybe it never really was.

  8. Wellington says

    Mar 31, 2020 at 3:21 pm

    “We don’t want any progressive Islam….”

    I’ll see this Buttlim and raise him—I don’t want any Islam.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 31, 2020 at 10:02 pm

      🙂

  9. Michael Copeland says

    Mar 31, 2020 at 4:45 pm

    To be like his model of conduct, the prophet of Islam, Abu Zayd needs to have several black slaves.

    • CogitoErgoSum says

      Mar 31, 2020 at 5:37 pm

      This guy’s slaves would most most likely be white.

  10. gravenimage says

    Mar 31, 2020 at 10:03 pm

    Philadelphia: Imam says “We don’t want any progressive Islam….We do not support or advocate for ‘modern Islam’”
    …………………

    This is what pious Muslims sound like.

    • Wellington says

      Mar 31, 2020 at 10:53 pm

      Yep.

  11. Battle says

    Apr 1, 2020 at 1:50 am

    Nafisi Abu Zayd would own the slaves or would the Arabs own him worth half a white slave?

  12. Goofy says

    Apr 1, 2020 at 4:02 am

    He is right. There is no “Islam Light”. The “religion” draws heavily on its resemblance to the Abrahamic religions whilst at the same time being in deadly, aggressive opposition to them. If you compromise on the aggressiveness of Islam it will look like a toothless alligator!

    • James Lincoln says

      Apr 1, 2020 at 9:06 am

      Goofy,

      You are correct – there is only one islam.

      We can all “wish that it isn’t so”, but it will not change the fact…

  13. Luchtpint says

    Apr 1, 2020 at 10:50 am

    In Islam, Allah is supposed to be a universal truth that stretches from infinite in the past to infinite in the future and therefore spans the whole of humanity on this planet. And as such, it can’t be modernized in any way, because Allah is deemed infallible.

    Modernizing Islam is out of the question. When will those idiotic outreach pseudo-intellectuals in the West ever learn this basic concept ?

  14. Randall Anderson says

    Apr 1, 2020 at 11:22 am

    There is NO REFORM of Islam…there never can be. The penalty even suggesting the need for reform – is death. It’s right there in the Quran. Those who claim they want to ‘modernize/reform/modify’ are either lying, or they are ignorant of this fact. Listen to the Imams/Clerics/Ayatollahs…they all want you dead for even talking about it. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com http://www.faithfreedom.org http://www.jihadwatch.org http://www.prophetofdoom.net

  15. OLD GUY says

    Apr 1, 2020 at 11:50 am

    Another brilliant Imam, may the bird of paradise fly up his nose.

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